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Who Is Your Nightmare Opponent?
There has been a lot of speculation as to who Democrats are hoping to run against (and not run against) in the 2024 presidential election. Since this topic has been covered a bit already, I want to look at the 2024 race on the other side. Presumably nearly everyone reading this is a Republican, or at least an independent who doesn’t want another Democratic victory in 2024.
The majority expectation is that Joseph Robinette Biden will probably again be the Democratic nominee, providing he doesn’t have a fatal stroke or something. But that’s not locked in, so my question for you is: Who do you most fear as a Democratic nominee? Which Democrat do you think would have the best chance of winning, and who would make the worst president of any Democrat who could plausibly win?
My answer is Elizabeth Warren. Bernie Sanders is often regarded as the most left-wing Democrat who has run lately, but I think Warren is more threatening. For one thing, Bernie is and looks like an old man. A lot of people across the political spectrum are thinking maybe it’s time to elect someone at least a little bit younger than dirt. I speculate that quite a few people who didn’t even particularly like Hillary Clinton voted for her because they wanted to say they voted for the first female president, and Elizabeth Warren would likely benefit from some of that mentality. She has a burning, passionate hatred for capitalism, where Sanders has a little less charge in his battery and would not fight as hard to destroy the free enterprise system. Ten years ago, there would have been approximately zero support for Senator Warren from the right side of the aisle, but quite a few Republicans these days have grown hostile to capitalism and sneer at the very concept of free trade, so she might pick up more than a token smattering of votes from populist Republicans.
Gavin Newsom? Yeah, he’s a wacko, but a lot of people see that California is going downhill and don’t want to bring Newsom-style results to the whole nation. I think Warren is more electable than the other prominent Democrats and would likely be even worse at the job than the other prominent Democrats. Unless you do think that capitalism should be destroyed, then she’d be great.
But what do you all think? Which Democrat populates your nightmares?
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She’s lazy and has more money and luxury than she could imagined 20 years ago. She’s not running.
Gavin doesn’t think Biden will be the candidate and is positioning himself to be the nominee. Otherwise, his attacks on DeSantis would not make any sense.
I agree with both of your comments. But Newsom won’t sell nationwide, so I’m not that worried about his chances.
RFK Jr is not a serious candidate. Democrats will not nominate him. For one thing, they flat-out don’t agree with his vaccine skepticism. We might as well spend time fantasizing that one of GW Bush’s daughters will win the GOP nom (“But she’s a famous name! Surely Republicans will flock to her!”)
Sure they do. He needs to distract people from the job he’s doing in California.
Pete Buttgieg seems to be failing upwards quite nicely. Handsome and gay, but not the kind of “in your face gay” that turns off many moderate voters. A voter can feel good about voting for a man like that.
As someone on Twitter said, “He’s so bad at his job that people know who the Secretary of Transportation is”.
From what i understand he is still very much pro-abortion. I do like his anti-Big Pharma stance, but then again I liked Ralph Nader for his consumer advocacy, but that’s it, and not for president.
Yes, and how in the world did Newsome get free run of the White House, with photo ops, while Biden was in (iirc) Saudi Arabia begging for increased oil production? He’s the Democrats next guy.
I wonder when the media will start blaring 24/7 that Newsom is just like Reagan, another California governor?
He’s a protest candidate. It would be good to have the issues with the vaccine raised in debates. If Biden runs, his people will do everything they can to avoid them since he may in a few months make Fetterman look cogent by comparison.
Not sure about that. He has no problem tongue-kissing his “husband” in public . . .
I’ll go with Satan. He’s a handsome devil with a great pitch(fork) . . .
I don’t think I am in any danger of having to make a decision on RFK Jr in the general election. I don’t think he will be there to drain votes. But I find his candidacy interesting.
Does the Kennedy name really mean anything anymore?
Only people older than their late 60s have any memory of JFKs presidency.
The strongest Democrats would be governors like Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, or Josh Shaprio of Pennsylvania. Perhaps Roy Cooper of North Carolina, who is term-limited. My favorite would be former Montana Governor Steve Bullock. Another would be Secretary of Commerce and former Rhode Island Governor Gina Raimondo
From the Senate, Amy Klobuchar who would be the Vice President today but for the murder of George Floyd.
The nightmare Democrats: Bernie Sanders and Liz Warren.
I think most people don’t realize it, but this has pretty much already occurred. Faith in the media is at an all-time low, even among democrats. Newspaper circulation is down something like 70% in the last 40 years. Less than 10% of people watch the evening news. The number of people who watch all cable news combined is around the 1% range. Only 32% of people overall even believe the news, with only 7% having a great deal of trust. Remember back when Walter Cronkite was considered the “most trusted man in America?
https://news.gallup.com/poll/355526/americans-trust-media-dips-second-lowest-record.aspx
I think the “corporate media” covers a lot more than just the news. For instance, what kind of numbers is the Daily Show getting? Probably less than it used to, but still a decent amount. Same with late night shows. Numbers are probably not what they were but a lot of people are still influenced by them.
Looks great in red spandex.
I don’t read the actual surveys and their questions, but I always feel “approval” questions are a big mistake. One can disapprove because they think it’s too much, or not enough. Dems and Repubs can both agree that the country is not on the “right track” but have completely opposite right tracks in mind.
For perspective, “The Daily Show” used to get about 2.5 million viewers when Jon Stewart was host. That would have been about one out of every 125 Americans watching. With Stewart’s retirement, the show now gets around 800,000 viewers, or about one out of every 412 Americans, and at times has dipped to under 400,000 viewers, or a minuscule less than one out of every 825 Americans viewing.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisadellatto/2022/09/30/how-late-night-talk-ratings-cratered-during-trevor-noahs-daily-show-era/?sh=2506c946c15d
Because we are politically active, we tend to hear about all the latest political punditry and it makes things seem like it is going on all around us, when in fact most people are not paying much attention to this stuff. Half of them can’t even be bothered to vote except in presidential erections.
It looks like the poll did not ask people if they “approved.” The wording of the question on the graph says:
“In general, how much trust and confidence do you have in mass media — such as newspapers, TV, and radio — when it comes to reporting the news fully, accurately, and fairly — [answer choices] A great deal, a fair amount, not very much, or none at all.”
I need to see their sources. “A highly placed source speaking on condition of anonymity” == “the reporter’s imaginary friend.”
The way things are going, they might dump Biden for the “tranny of the week.”
And they’d love to push “The Butt Judge,” but he doesn’t appear too formidable.
Yes, the first clue that you are being BS’d by a reporter.
I see an all-tranny administration in the future……….. “The Butt Judge” is a really crass and vulgar term. I prefer “Booty Juice.”
😂😂😂
Sadly, I couldn’t find an embeddable clip of the Miss Emily Litella video.
The participation by the dead is way up over previous elections…
I wouldn’t allow the typo erections with respect to Bubba.
Yes. But my point was that if 75% of people trust the media that means a lot. But if 25% trust the media, it doesn’t tell us whether the media is too far to the left or too far to the right. If the 75% who don’t trust the media are evenly balance 37% Dem and 37% Repub, that’s reasonable and suggests polarization not skewing. But if 50% of that 75% that distrusts the the media are all either Democrats OR Republicans — meaning 50% of, say, Repubs distrust the media and 25% of Dems distrust the media, that skewing demonstrates an actual media bias.
Seems like a lot of the left believes the media is “too conservative” which is both concerning and laughable.