What About Nikki Haley?

 

Kurt Schlichter writes a brutal takedown of Nikki Haley as the right’s version of Kamala. While I think he goes too far in comparing her to the awful Kamala, his article crystallized in my mind some concerns I have about Haley.

She didn’t have any real accomplishments as governor. Yes, she is pro-life, anti-alphabet gang, in favor of low taxes, etc., etc. But did she have any signature achievements as governor? After a little internet research (i.e., Wikipedia), I couldn’t find much.

Schlichter also criticizes her for not having any strong policy proposals. Her campaign announcement was a gauzy, saccharine video. Maybe she’ll come out with some good proposals, but combined with her lack of achievements as governor, this could be a major weakness.

She agrees with a lot of leftist hoaxes (e.g., George Floyd was a saint, that garage door pull really was a noose, and others) as John Hinderaker observes. And Gavin Sample. It seems that she wants media approval more than standing for what’s right.

Although I sort of agreed with removing the Confederate flag in South Carolina, I felt she threw the Republican legislators under the bus time and again as she implied they were still old-school racists while she was the enlightened one who got rid of the flag.

I’m not deeply bothered that she is running after saying she wouldn’t run against Trump. Politicians say that kind of stuff all the time. Yes, it would have been a little smarter on her part to think ahead and not make that kind of promise, but it’s par for the course.

On the plus side, she was a tough, well-spoken UN ambassador. She was effective in denouncing the crooks and thugs that run that body.  So maybe she does better implementing someone else’s policy rather than being at the top herself.

She is also well-spoken and quick on her feet with good one-liners (“it hurts more when you kick them with heels”).  She would be great in a debate with Dementia Joe. When a reporter from Christianity Today asked if she wanted her parents to convert to Christianity, she said, “What I hope is that my parents do what’s right for them,” which is a great way of not answering a very personal question.

If DeSantis doesn’t run or flames out and if Haley comes up with strong policy proposals, I could support her. She doesn’t have Trump’s baggage, so she would be easier to elect in the general. But I’m not terribly excited about her and have some concerns.

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  1. Hoyacon Member
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    I don’t like this “mandatory mental competency” stuff outside the context of a constitutional amendment. Authoritarian.

    Seriously? Do you know about law and stuff? (He said respectfully.) I don’t want to do anything outside of the Constitution but I think her idea is a really good one.

    The problem, of course, is who gets to create the tests, and who scores them, etc.

    Exactly.

    That she believes in experts rather than the general population who have the ability to make such a judgment shows she is an elitist and not to be trusted.

    How about if the test is that the candidate has to run a vigorous campaign with months of exhausting public appearances and tough interviews. Then the citizenry decides through a voting mechanism if that person is competent. How about that?

    I agree that’s ideal.  Unfortunately, it’s how you get Joe Biden and John Fetterman.

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  2. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

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    I’ve seen tons of campaign ads and it is common that in the earliest days of the campaign, the candidate will run feel-good “get to know me” ads just to introduce themselves to a public that doesn’t know much about them

    What is the message sent when someone introduces themselves as “the little brown girl”? That tells me they think that color of skin is more important than content of character. She could have chosen to lead off with helping run the family store as a child.

    Ooh, her family owned their own store.  Really nice, rubbing it in our face that your parents were business owners.  I guess she thinks she’s better than the rest of us whose parents had to work for a living.  What a fat-cat, country club elitist.

    If someone wants to run down a candidate, they can make a mountain out of any molehill.

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  3. Old Bathos Member
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    If DeSantis doesn’t run or flames out and if Haley comes up with strong policy proposals, I could support her. She doesn’t have Trump’s baggage, so she would be easier to elect in the general. But I’m not terribly excited about her and have some concerns.

    Ditto.

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  4. GlennAmurgis Coolidge
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    She is not Kamala (that would be someone like MTG)

    No – she is the female Jeb Bush

     

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    David Harsanyi

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    I don’t like this “mandatory mental competency” stuff outside the context of a constitutional amendment. Authoritarian.

    Seriously? Do you know about law and stuff? (He said respectfully.) I don’t want to do anything outside of the Constitution but I think her idea is a really good one.

    The problem, of course, is who gets to create the tests, and who scores them, etc.

    Exactly.

    That she believes in experts rather than the general population who have the ability to make such a judgment shows she is an elitist and not to be trusted.

    How about if the test is that the candidate has to run a vigorous campaign with months of exhausting public appearances and tough interviews. Then the citizenry decides through a voting mechanism if that person is competent. How about that?

    What if they hide in their basement yet still somehow supposedly “win?”

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    I don’t like this “mandatory mental competency” stuff outside the context of a constitutional amendment. Authoritarian.

    Seriously? Do you know about law and stuff? (He said respectfully.) I don’t want to do anything outside of the Constitution but I think her idea is a really good one.

    The problem, of course, is who gets to create the tests, and who scores them, etc.

    Exactly.

    That she believes in experts rather than the general population who have the ability to make such a judgment shows she is an elitist and not to be trusted.

    How about if the test is that the candidate has to run a vigorous campaign with months of exhausting public appearances and tough interviews. Then the citizenry decides through a voting mechanism if that person is competent. How about that?

    What if they hide in their basement yet still somehow supposedly “win?”

    That only happens when your opponent is an Orange clown.  

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    I don’t like this “mandatory mental competency” stuff outside the context of a constitutional amendment. Authoritarian.

    Seriously? Do you know about law and stuff? (He said respectfully.) I don’t want to do anything outside of the Constitution but I think her idea is a really good one.

    The problem, of course, is who gets to create the tests, and who scores them, etc.

    Exactly.

    That she believes in experts rather than the general population who have the ability to make such a judgment shows she is an elitist and not to be trusted.

    How about if the test is that the candidate has to run a vigorous campaign with months of exhausting public appearances and tough interviews. Then the citizenry decides through a voting mechanism if that person is competent. How about that?

    What if they hide in their basement yet still somehow supposedly “win?”

    That only happens when your opponent is an Orange clown.

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  9. Hoyacon Member
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    I don’t like this “mandatory mental competency” stuff outside the context of a constitutional amendment. Authoritarian.

    Seriously? Do you know about law and stuff? (He said respectfully.) I don’t want to do anything outside of the Constitution but I think her idea is a really good one.

    The problem, of course, is who gets to create the tests, and who scores them, etc.

    Exactly.

    That she believes in experts rather than the general population who have the ability to make such a judgment shows she is an elitist and not to be trusted.

    How about if the test is that the candidate has to run a vigorous campaign with months of exhausting public appearances and tough interviews. Then the citizenry decides through a voting mechanism if that person is competent. How about that?

    What if they hide in their basement yet still somehow supposedly “win?”

    That only happens when your opponent is an Orange clown.

    Or when the game is changed by an unprecedented pandemic.

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  10. Western Chauvinist Member
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    David Harsanyi

    Yeah, wow. Uninspiring. Her inauthenticity makes her an unreliable “conservative.” Who trusts her to have Americans’ interests over her own? I don’t. 

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  11. The Reticulator Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    How about if the test is that the candidate has to run a vigorous campaign with months of exhausting public appearances and tough interviews. Then the citizenry decides through a voting mechanism if that person is competent. How about that?

    What if they hide in their basement yet still somehow supposedly “win?”

    That would be great. I wish they’d all stay in their basements and do their work by zoom and e-mail.  

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  12. The Reticulator Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

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    David Harsanyi

    Yeah, wow. Uninspiring. Her inauthenticity makes her an unreliable “conservative.” Who trusts her to have Americans’ interests over her own? I don’t.

    I think I’ve asked this before.  Has she been tested under hatefire from the hate media?  

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    David Harsanyi

    Yeah, wow. Uninspiring. Her inauthenticity makes her an unreliable “conservative.” Who trusts her to have Americans’ interests over her own? I don’t.

    I think I’ve asked this before. Has she been tested under hatefire from the hate media?

    She was just tested by hatefire from Don “Don’t call me lemon” Lemon.  So maybe not.

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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

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    David Harsanyi

    Yeah, wow. Uninspiring. Her inauthenticity makes her an unreliable “conservative.” Who trusts her to have Americans’ interests over her own? I don’t.

    I think I’ve asked this before. Has she been tested under hatefire from the hate media?

    She was just tested by hatefire from Don “Don’t call me lemon” Lemon. So maybe not.

    It’s a pretty minor skirmish, but her response was quite good: “Look, he made that comment, I wasn’t sitting there saying sexist, middle-aged, CNN anchors need to have mental competency tests, although he may have just proven that point…”

    There is much to question or criticize about Nikki Haley, and some things to praise as well.  Even Donald Trump thought so.  It ought to be possible to have a spirited debate on her qualifications and her abilities, and whether she’s a good fit for national office.  That’s why it’s quite disappointing to see some of the commentary, both from the left and from the right, immediately descend to the gratuitous and the downright idiotic, at the same time as it appears to come from a place of deep insecurity and fear.

     

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  15. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    What if they hide in their basement yet still somehow supposedly “win?”

    That only happens when your opponent is an Orange clown.  

    Don’t insult Dr. Oz like that.

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  16. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    I think I’ve asked this before. Has she been tested under hatefire from the hate media?

    She was just tested by hatefire from Don “Don’t call me lemon” Lemon.  So maybe not.

    Not much of a test, since Don Lemon rapidly self-destructed by calling the networks prime demographic (women over 40) useless human beings.  We might not see him again, ever.

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  17. kedavis Coolidge
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    I think I’ve asked this before. Has she been tested under hatefire from the hate media?

    She was just tested by hatefire from Don “Don’t call me lemon” Lemon. So maybe not.

    Not much of a test, since Don Lemon rapidly self-destructed by calling the networks prime demographic (women over 40) useless human beings. We might not see him again, ever.

    Please, Lord, let it be so!

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  18. Gary Robbins Member
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    I really like Nikki Haley’s idea of a cognitive ability test for presidential candidate who are over the age of 75.

    And possibly for US Senate candidates.

    And current members of the Senate.  See DiFi.

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    I really like Nikki Haley’s idea of a cognitive ability test for presidential candidate who are over the age of 75.

    And possibly for US Senate candidates.

    And current members of the Senate. See DiFi.

    By all means let’s take the vote out of the hands of the populace.  

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    I really like Nikki Haley’s idea of a cognitive ability test for presidential candidate who are over the age of 75.

    And possibly for US Senate candidates.

    And current members of the Senate. See DiFi.

    LOL.  Love this post on Powerline: A Feinstein Farewell

    Money quote:

    Well, she’s finally decided to retire, but the clip below demonstrates that even a semi-senile Feinstein is more lucid than the average Democratic senator:

     

     

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  21. Gary Robbins Member
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    I really like Nikki Haley’s idea of a cognitive ability test for presidential candidate who are over the age of 75.

    And possibly for US Senate candidates.

    And current members of the Senate. See DiFi.

    By all means let’s take the vote out of the hands of the populace.

    Well, we could simply ask that Senators take a mental status exam.  If they refuse, that speaks volumes.

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    She’s a loser. She locked down her state and went wild with the covid crap.

    Dude, she wasn’t even governor in 2020; she became DJT’s UN Ambassador in 2017. As for the rest of your comment, get a grip.

    I do have one. Millennia of human history proves me right on this front. If Winston Churchill was a woman he wouldn’t have been Churchill or come close to being Churchill. The math on this isn’t hard. And the right is in a race to get their token in there because the right is polluted by left wing trash as much as the left.

    Lady Thatcher would like a word.

    You mean that failed prime minister? Look at England today. It’s a cesspool full of a rapidly declining Christianity with a mosque on every corner. I mean can’t you people assess that the 80s was a failure? You conserved nothing in the grand scheme of things.

    You have now entered the Gary Robin zone where I can just skip over your comments with zero guilt. I wish that the government will give you a sex robot so you can never procreate.

    I suggest that targeting a member of Ricochet violates the spirit of the Code of Conduct, especially where that member isn’t really involved in the thread.  

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    She’s a loser. She locked down her state and went wild with the covid crap.

    Dude, she wasn’t even governor in 2020; she became DJT’s UN Ambassador in 2017. As for the rest of your comment, get a grip.

    I do have one. Millennia of human history proves me right on this front. If Winston Churchill was a woman he wouldn’t have been Churchill or come close to being Churchill. The math on this isn’t hard. And the right is in a race to get their token in there because the right is polluted by left wing trash as much as the left.

    Lady Thatcher would like a word.

    You mean that failed prime minister? Look at England today. It’s a cesspool full of a rapidly declining Christianity with a mosque on every corner. I mean can’t you people assess that the 80s was a failure? You conserved nothing in the grand scheme of things.

    You have now entered the Gary Robin zone where I can just skip over your comments with zero guilt. I wish that the government will give you a sex robot so you can never procreate.

    I suggest that targeting a member of Ricochet violates the spirit of the Code of Conduct, especially where that member isn’t really involved in the thread.

    This is a good one.  If only I understood.

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  24. E. Kent Golding Moderator
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    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):

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    Margaret Thatcher moved Great Britain considerably to the right. Thatcher quit in 1990, Glen. It is as ridiculous to blame her for England moving leftward years after she left office as it is to blame Nikki Haley for Covid lockdowns in South Carolina years after she left office there. Do you think a successful conservative Prime Minister would have been able to ensure that Great Britain would continue conservative policies decades later? That’s an unrealistic expectation.

    I don’t think Margaret Thatcher did much of a damn thing. And I don’t need to admire her or Reagan for that matter. I don’t care for their examples and I’m not enamored with either of them. I know that’s sacrilege in your world. That’s your problem not mine. They built nothing long lasting. Nothing has been conserved and following their examples and singing their praises for 40 years clearly hasn’t worked for us or England. It’s all been a giant waste of time in my opinion. And I don’t want to hear about the soviet union which largely collapsed under its own weight and malfeasance.

    Glen,  you have convinced me that Nikki Haley would make a good President.   Like Trump,  she has the right enemies.

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  25. E. Kent Golding Moderator
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    I really like Nikki Haley’s idea of a cognitive ability test for presidential candidate who are over the age of 75.

    And possibly for US Senate candidates.

    And current members of the Senate. See DiFi.

    By all means let’s take the vote out of the hands of the populace.

    Well, we could simply ask that Senators take a mental status exam. If they refuse, that speaks volumes.

    T

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    David Harsanyi

    Yeah, wow. Uninspiring. Her inauthenticity makes her an unreliable “conservative.” Who trusts her to have Americans’ interests over her own? I don’t.

    Um,   I don’t trust any politician to have Amercan’s interests over their own.   Fallen humanity and all that.    Most we can do is try to select politicians whose interests happen to align well with America’s.

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  26. E. Kent Golding Moderator
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    She is not Kamala (that would be someone like MTG)

    No – she is the female Jeb Bush

     

    Amazing what they can do with Drugs and Surgery these days.

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    She’s a loser. She locked down her state and went wild with the covid crap.

    Dude, she wasn’t even governor in 2020; she became DJT’s UN Ambassador in 2017. As for the rest of your comment, get a grip.

    I do have one. Millennia of human history proves me right on this front. If Winston Churchill was a woman he wouldn’t have been Churchill or come close to being Churchill. The math on this isn’t hard. And the right is in a race to get their token in there because the right is polluted by left wing trash as much as the left.

    Lady Thatcher would like a word.

    You mean that failed prime minister? Look at England today. It’s a cesspool full of a rapidly declining Christianity with a mosque on every corner. I mean can’t you people assess that the 80s was a failure? You conserved nothing in the grand scheme of things.

    You have now entered the Gary Robin zone where I can just skip over your comments with zero guilt. I wish that the government will give you a sex robot so you can never procreate.

    I’m fine with giving Glen a sex robot; but my conservative, small-government principles are opposed to the government giving it to him.

    Who’s going to start the GoFundMe?

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  28. MWD B612 "Dawg" Member
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    I really like Nikki Haley’s idea of a cognitive ability test for presidential candidate who are over the age of 75.

    And possibly for US Senate candidates.

    And current members of the Senate. See DiFi.

    By all means let’s take the vote out of the hands of the populace.

    Since an Amendment would be necessary, the people would have their say through their elected representatives, both on the Federal and State level.

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  29. Hoyacon Member
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    I really like Nikki Haley’s idea of a cognitive ability test for presidential candidate who are over the age of 75.

    And possibly for US Senate candidates.

    And current members of the Senate. See DiFi.

    By all means let’s take the vote out of the hands of the populace.

    Since an Amendment would be necessary, the people would have their say through their elected representatives, both on the Federal and State level.

    Those pushing this, including Haley, were not doing so with mention of a constitutional amendment.  

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  30. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

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    I really like Nikki Haley’s idea of a cognitive ability test for presidential candidate who are over the age of 75.

    And possibly for US Senate candidates.

    And current members of the Senate. See DiFi.

    By all means let’s take the vote out of the hands of the populace.

    Since an Amendment would be necessary, the people would have their say through their elected representatives, both on the Federal and State level.

    Those pushing this, including Haley, were not doing so with mention of a constitutional amendment.

    I wish she hadn’t said it.  I wish all candidates would confine themselves to talking about what is actually legally do-able and not talk about how they wish things were.

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