Is Ukraine Winning the War Against Russia?

 

I have been reading recent posts on social media claiming that Ukraine is recapturing dozens of square miles of territory from Russia, Russian troops are taking heavy casualties, and many Russian troops are cut off from supply lines.

It seems that the western nations are pouring weapons into the Ukraine military, which has outperformed expectations in using these weapons to their advantage. It’s starting to look like Russia’s military is not the second best military in the world, but rather the second best military in Ukraine.

One doesn’t want to read too much into these social media reports of Ukraine’s success. Who knows what is really going on over there? But former General of the US Army in Europe, Ben Hodges, says that Ukraine will recapture Crimea in a year. He seems to have backed off his earlier prediction that Ukraine would retake all of the territory it lost after February 22, 2022, by the end of summer (which would be right about now, it would seem).

Still, I bet that if Putin had known how badly this invasion would go and how unified the liberal-democratic world would be in supporting Ukraine, he would not have ordered the invasion of Ukraine.  This shows how wars can start based on miscalculation, the underestimating of the opposition. In any case, we will have to watch over the next month or so to see if Ukraine is able to keep this counter-attack going.

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  1. HeavyWater Inactive
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    “Russia is facing defeat in Putin’s gas war against the European Union.”

    “A week after Russian energy giant Gazprom suspended gas exports to Germany via Nord Stream 1, Russian President Vladimir Putin threatened on September 7 to cut remaining supplies and leave “the West to freeze” if it attempted to cap oil and gas prices.  Such statements would have thrown markets into a spin and created political panic only a few months ago but now that it no longer the case.  Instead, there are signs Putin may have overplayed his hand and could be about to lose his gas war against Europe.”

    So, maybe Putin will end up with egg on his face yet again.  

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  2. Bob Thompson Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Isn’t it a good thing that we are not having to rely on our military amidst all this corruption?

    How reliable are they anyway?

    Milley Spineless Blank Template - Imgflip

    I should have indicated the sarcasm in my remark. It likely would just be more disastrous  since our leaders have no understanding of what it takes to carry out military operations.

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  3. kedavis Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    The person that knows this Ukraine stuff comprehensively is King Banaian. He used to be a contributor here and he literally set up their central bank. He knows everything about that part of the world. He spent months in Ukraine. He would know how to put everything in proper perspective. He personally knows that guy that Putin poisoned.

    I’d like to see him on the flagship podcast but they never put any of my suggestions on.

    I used to hear him pretty regularly on the Northern Alliance Radio Network (NARN) podcasts.

    • #183
  4. kedavis Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    If Putin loses, he’s going to have to retaliate.

    How does the loser, retaliate?  If anything I would expect Ukraine to do that more, retaliation for having been attacked, perhaps by ruining significant parts of the Nordstream 2 pipeline etc.

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  5. RufusRJones Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    If Putin loses, he’s going to have to retaliate.

    How does the loser, retaliate? If anything I would expect Ukraine to do that more, retaliation for having been attacked, perhaps by ruining significant parts of the Nordstream 2 pipeline etc.

    You’re right. I should’ve thought of this. Ukraine will march all through Russia and destroy all of their munitions they could retaliate with. After that they will remove him from the Kremlin by force.

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  6. kedavis Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    If Putin loses, he’s going to have to retaliate.

    How does the loser, retaliate? If anything I would expect Ukraine to do that more, retaliation for having been attacked, perhaps by ruining significant parts of the Nordstream 2 pipeline etc.

    You’re right. I should’ve thought of this. Ukraine will march all through Russia and destroy all of their munitions they could retaliate with. After that they will remove him from the Kremlin by force.

    Ar Ar, Earth Humor.  But really, how does a loser, retaliate for losing?  Wouldn’t that actually be more like… winning?

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  7. RufusRJones Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    If Putin loses, he’s going to have to retaliate.

    How does the loser, retaliate? If anything I would expect Ukraine to do that more, retaliation for having been attacked, perhaps by ruining significant parts of the Nordstream 2 pipeline etc.

    You’re right. I should’ve thought of this. Ukraine will march all through Russia and destroy all of their munitions they could retaliate with. After that they will remove him from the Kremlin by force.

    Ar Ar, Earth Humor. But really, how does a loser, retaliate for losing?

    I have two more hours for this. After that you will have to wait for tomorrow, to start again. 

    If you keep up with current events, he has plenty of defended territory to operate from. He still has munition factories. He is not out of fighter planes. Conveniently, he is a dictator. 

    So then, he capitalizes on all of that too drop munitions on Ukraine. They won’t like that. It’s also a political move for a strong man to stay in power. 

    LETS MAKE THIS LONG!

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  8. kedavis Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    If Putin loses, he’s going to have to retaliate.

    How does the loser, retaliate? If anything I would expect Ukraine to do that more, retaliation for having been attacked, perhaps by ruining significant parts of the Nordstream 2 pipeline etc.

    You’re right. I should’ve thought of this. Ukraine will march all through Russia and destroy all of their munitions they could retaliate with. After that they will remove him from the Kremlin by force.

    Ar Ar, Earth Humor. But really, how does a loser, retaliate for losing?

    I have two more hours for this. After that you will have to wait for tomorrow, to start again.

    If you keep up with current events, he has plenty of defended territory to operate from. He still has munition factories. He is not out of fighter planes. Conveniently, he is a dictator.

    So then, he capitalizes on all of that too drop munitions on Ukraine. They won’t like that. It’s also a political move for a strong man to stay in power.

    LETS MAKE THIS LONG!

    You can call that retaliation if you want.  I don’t think it accurately qualifies.

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  9. RufusRJones Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    If Putin loses, he’s going to have to retaliate.

    How does the loser, retaliate? If anything I would expect Ukraine to do that more, retaliation for having been attacked, perhaps by ruining significant parts of the Nordstream 2 pipeline etc.

    You’re right. I should’ve thought of this. Ukraine will march all through Russia and destroy all of their munitions they could retaliate with. After that they will remove him from the Kremlin by force.

    Ar Ar, Earth Humor. But really, how does a loser, retaliate for losing?

    I have two more hours for this. After that you will have to wait for tomorrow, to start again.

    If you keep up with current events, he has plenty of defended territory to operate from. He still has munition factories. He is not out of fighter planes. Conveniently, he is a dictator.

    So then, he capitalizes on all of that too drop munitions on Ukraine. They won’t like that. It’s also a political move for a strong man to stay in power.

    LETS MAKE THIS LONG!

    You can call that retaliation if you want. I don’t think it accurately qualifies.

    Thank you God. 

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  10. MiMac Thatcher
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    If Putin loses, he’s going to have to retaliate.

    How does the loser, retaliate? If anything I would expect Ukraine to do that more, retaliation for having been attacked, perhaps by ruining significant parts of the Nordstream 2 pipeline etc.

    You’re right. I should’ve thought of this. Ukraine will march all through Russia and destroy all of their munitions they could retaliate with. After that they will remove him from the Kremlin by force.

    Ar Ar, Earth Humor. But really, how does a loser, retaliate for losing?

    I have two more hours for this. After that you will have to wait for tomorrow, to start again.

    If you keep up with current events, he has plenty of defended territory to operate from. He still has munition factories. He is not out of fighter planes. Conveniently, he is a dictator.

    So then, he capitalizes on all of that too drop munitions on Ukraine. They won’t like that. It’s also a political move for a strong man to stay in power.

    LETS MAKE THIS LONG!

    And how is that different from the present situation? It isn’t restraint that has held back the Russian Air Force from bombing more- it is b/c they can’t suppress Ukrainian air defenses-which are only improving with the arrival of western gear (HARMS, IRIS-T). If anything the pendulum is swinging away from the Russian Air Force and the Russians appear to be depleting their long range, accurate missiles.

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  11. RufusRJones Member
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    If Putin loses, he’s going to have to retaliate.

    How does the loser, retaliate? If anything I would expect Ukraine to do that more, retaliation for having been attacked, perhaps by ruining significant parts of the Nordstream 2 pipeline etc.

    You’re right. I should’ve thought of this. Ukraine will march all through Russia and destroy all of their munitions they could retaliate with. After that they will remove him from the Kremlin by force.

    Ar Ar, Earth Humor. But really, how does a loser, retaliate for losing?

    I have two more hours for this. After that you will have to wait for tomorrow, to start again.

    If you keep up with current events, he has plenty of defended territory to operate from. He still has munition factories. He is not out of fighter planes. Conveniently, he is a dictator.

    So then, he capitalizes on all of that too drop munitions on Ukraine. They won’t like that. It’s also a political move for a strong man to stay in power.

    LETS MAKE THIS LONG!

    And how is that different from the present situation? It isn’t restraint that has held back the Russian Air Force from bombing more- it is b/c they can’t suppress Ukrainian air defenses-which are only improving with the arrival of western gear (HARMS, IRIS-T). If anything the pendulum is swinging away from the Russian Air Force and the Russians appear to be depleting their long range, accurate missiles.

    I’m saying he can vandalize whatever he wants. Gratuitous destruction without any strategic gain. The guy on the podcast predicted he was going to do it if he loses. 

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  12. kedavis Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    If Putin loses, he’s going to have to retaliate.

    How does the loser, retaliate? If anything I would expect Ukraine to do that more, retaliation for having been attacked, perhaps by ruining significant parts of the Nordstream 2 pipeline etc.

    You’re right. I should’ve thought of this. Ukraine will march all through Russia and destroy all of their munitions they could retaliate with. After that they will remove him from the Kremlin by force.

    Ar Ar, Earth Humor. But really, how does a loser, retaliate for losing?

    I have two more hours for this. After that you will have to wait for tomorrow, to start again.

    If you keep up with current events, he has plenty of defended territory to operate from. He still has munition factories. He is not out of fighter planes. Conveniently, he is a dictator.

    So then, he capitalizes on all of that too drop munitions on Ukraine. They won’t like that. It’s also a political move for a strong man to stay in power.

    LETS MAKE THIS LONG!

    You can call that retaliation if you want. I don’t think it accurately qualifies.

    Thank you God.

    It’s like the old story, Abe Lincoln asks, “If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?”  Answer: “5”.  Lincoln:  “No, 4.  Calling a tail a leg doesn’t make it one.”

    And you saying that’s “retaliation” doesn’t mean it fits the meaning of the word.

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  13. kedavis Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    If Putin loses, he’s going to have to retaliate.

    How does the loser, retaliate? If anything I would expect Ukraine to do that more, retaliation for having been attacked, perhaps by ruining significant parts of the Nordstream 2 pipeline etc.

    You’re right. I should’ve thought of this. Ukraine will march all through Russia and destroy all of their munitions they could retaliate with. After that they will remove him from the Kremlin by force.

    Ar Ar, Earth Humor. But really, how does a loser, retaliate for losing?

    I have two more hours for this. After that you will have to wait for tomorrow, to start again.

    If you keep up with current events, he has plenty of defended territory to operate from. He still has munition factories. He is not out of fighter planes. Conveniently, he is a dictator.

    So then, he capitalizes on all of that too drop munitions on Ukraine. They won’t like that. It’s also a political move for a strong man to stay in power.

    LETS MAKE THIS LONG!

    And how is that different from the present situation? It isn’t restraint that has held back the Russian Air Force from bombing more- it is b/c they can’t suppress Ukrainian air defenses-which are only improving with the arrival of western gear (HARMS, IRIS-T). If anything the pendulum is swinging away from the Russian Air Force and the Russians appear to be depleting their long range, accurate missiles.

    I’m saying he can vandalize whatever he wants. Gratuitous destruction without any strategic gain. The guy on the podcast predicted he was going to do it if he loses.

    Now all that’s needed is a good term for that, because “retaliation” just isn’t it.

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  14. RufusRJones Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    And you saying that’s “retaliation” doesn’t mean it fits the meaning of the word.

    Well what if I say that doesn’t settle it? I say you are WRONG! 

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  15. Zafar Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    I’m saying he can vandalize whatever he wants. Gratuitous destruction without any strategic gain. The guy on the podcast predicted he was going to do it if he loses. 

    Russia retains the potential to spoil the peace, even if they lose. (However you define Russia’s loss.)  Or at least make peace much more expensive (in terms of re-building Ukraine, supplying the EU with Energy).  That’s a tactical capacity which can have strategic impact, not least because it will have an impact on what the EU (and maybe Zelensky? and maybe not the US?) will find an acceptable outcome.

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  16. RufusRJones Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    I’m saying he can vandalize whatever he wants. Gratuitous destruction without any strategic gain. The guy on the podcast predicted he was going to do it if he loses.

    Russia retains the potential to spoil the peace, even if they lose. (However you define Russia’s loss.) Or at least make peace much more expensive (in terms of re-building Ukraine, supplying the EU with Energy). That’s a tactical capacity which can have strategic impact, not least because it will have an impact on what the EU (and maybe Zelensky? and maybe not the US?) will find an acceptable outcome.

    I mean absolutely. He could bomb those nuke plants. Maybe the right kind of PR around a cyber attack. He obviously has options for this. It strikes me as easy and obvious. He’s not like some tinpot dictator without any resources.

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  17. Zafar Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    I mean absolutely. He could bomb those nuke plants. Maybe the right kind of PR around a cyber attack. He obviously has options for this. It strikes me as easy and obvious. He’s not like some tinpot dictator without any resources.

    And it begins:

    Ukraine’s eastern region has suffered a ‘total blackout’ a day after a counter-attack by Kyiv’s troops forced the Russian army to retreat, with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy accusing Moscow of deliberately targeting civilian infrastructure in the region.

    A large part of the embattled eastern Ukraine region suffered power blackouts and cuts in water supplies on Sunday. The outages will likely affect about nine million people in the region, including territory controlled by Russia.

    Just before winter.  Who would have imagined?

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  18. MiMac Thatcher
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    I’m saying he can vandalize whatever he wants. Gratuitous destruction without any strategic gain. The guy on the podcast predicted he was going to do it if he loses.

    Russia retains the potential to spoil the peace, even if they lose. (However you define Russia’s loss.) Or at least make peace much more expensive (in terms of re-building Ukraine, supplying the EU with Energy). That’s a tactical capacity which can have strategic impact, not least because it will have an impact on what the EU (and maybe Zelensky? and maybe not the US?) will find an acceptable outcome.

    I mean absolutely. He could bomb those nuke plants. Maybe the right kind of PR around a cyber attack. He obviously has options for this. It strikes me as easy and obvious. He’s not like some tinpot dictator without any resources.

    But he risks the West upping the ante as well- ATACMS and F-16s for Ukraine would be easy. With the ATACMS many Russian bases would be under grave threat. Russia already can’t establish air superiority in Ukraine- with F-16s Ukraine can greatly worsen the difficulties the Russia Air Force faces. Crimea would be under constant attack & Belgograd would not be safe as well.

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  19. Zafar Member
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    Pressure on Putin at home:

    Igor Girkin, a nationalist and former FSB officer who helped launch a 2014 war in Ukraine’s eastern Donbas region, compared the collapse of one of the conflict’s principal front lines to the 1905 Battle of Mukden – a catastrophic defeat in the Russo-Japanese war that triggered Russia’s 1905 revolution…

    Girkin, who has been unsparing in his criticisms of the country’s top brass, dubbing defence minister Shoigu “the cardboard marshal”, has said repeatedly that Russia will be defeated in Ukraine if it doesn’t declare a nationwide mobilisation.

    Nationalist anger at military failure is potentially a far greater problem for the Kremlin than pro-Western liberal criticism of Putin: opinion polls continue to show broad support for what Moscow calls the “special military operation”.

    As the capital celebrated Moscow Day with street parties and concerts on Saturday, rumblings of disquiet even spread to Russia’s ordinarily subservient parliament.

    Sergei Mironov, leader of the nominally opposition but Putin-loyal Just Russia party, said on Twitter that a fireworks display in honour of the holiday should be cancelled, in view of the military situation.

    One message reposted on Telegram by the prominent war correspondent Semyon Pegov referred to the celebrations in Moscow as “blasphemous” and the refusal of Russian authorities to embark on full-scale war as “schizophrenic”.

    “Either Russia will become itself through the birth of a new political elite … or it will cease to exist,” it read.

    Iow: nu, Vladimir?

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  20. RufusRJones Member
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    MiMac (View Comment):
    But he risks the West upping the ante as well

    He hast to make a calculation as a strongman in a bad situation. 

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  21. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    [2] What if Germany loses 6 million jobs in the next 6 months, but the nations of North America and Europe and also Australia continue to provide Ukraine with weapons and training?

    People in Europe need to survive and pay for their excessive government. The next two years have a lot of risk of a human and financial catastrophe. One of the guys was saying that they are just screwed no matter what. That much chaos over there is not going to be good for us.

    Effectively, you have Biden, Putin and Xi sabotaging the worlds economy.   It is going to be very hard for Europe to avoid getting screwed the next 2 years.   The EU is not agile and they are still mentally controlled by that pint-sized Swedish girl.

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  22. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    If he’s right, it’s going to be the Federal Reserve paying for Ukraine rebuilding.

    No doubt in my mind. We’ll be rebuilding Ukraine for decades, while our own people struggle to keep the lights on. Want a sure-fire way to create more anger from citizens against the U.S. government? This is how you do it.

    And most of it will be laundered through NGOs and back to the personal coffers of international oligarchs.

     

    The GOP got to squander $9Trillion in nation building.  Now it is the Dems turn to squander trillions on national building.

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  23. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    It’s inexplicable that he didn’t build a pipeline to China for all of their fossil fuels.

    you mean like this one.

    Named the “Power of Siberia,” the pipeline runs more than 8,100 kilometers (5,000 miles) across the two countries, according to Chinese state-run news agency Xinhua, and will deliver 38 billion cubic meters of natural gas annually by 2024. It will be operated by Russia’s state-owned company Gazprom.

    38 B cubic meters is about 10% of Europe’s annual consumption.  There is another pipeline (Power of Siberia2) that is on and off and has a larger capacity. 

     

    Map of the Power of Siberia gas pipeline through China.

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  24. RufusRJones Member
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):
    The GOP got to squander $9Trillion in nation building.  Now it is the Dems turn to squander trillions on national building.

    100%

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  25. RufusRJones Member
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    This sounds like pretty good analysis. Russia is probably pretty screwed. If you listen to the end, he gets into the complications of Putin lashing out.

    He talks about other Russian nationalists deposing him, but he doesn’t really get into the complications and difficulties other than saying that Western governments aren’t ready for it, including to the extent that they don’t want it to happen. I’m just reporting what he said.

     

    https://audioboom.com/posts/8155866-ukraine-the-ukrainians-on-the-march-what-is-to-be-done-professor-h-j-mackinder-internatio

     

    https://audioboom.com/posts/8155867-ukraine-what-do-the-russians-mean-by-taking-the-gloves-off-professor-h-j-mackinder-interna

     

    Weakness and stupidity is really fun to resolve when it comes to foreign policy. 

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  26. RufusRJones Member
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    I would listen to the guy on the John Batchelor show on Saturday as well. He says it’s going to last for another year and the Biden administration is possibly too stupid to front load Ukraine with enough weapons. 

    They are also reporting that the energy issues are going to last for three years. 

    The outcomes are uncertain. It comes down to political dynamics in Russia and political decisions in the United States. 

    Ukraine may be talented in war, but they need a lot of gear.

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  27. Stina Inactive
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    I’m saying he can vandalize whatever he wants. Gratuitous destruction without any strategic gain. The guy on the podcast predicted he was going to do it if he loses.

    Russia retains the potential to spoil the peace, even if they lose. (However you define Russia’s loss.) Or at least make peace much more expensive (in terms of re-building Ukraine, supplying the EU with Energy). That’s a tactical capacity which can have strategic impact, not least because it will have an impact on what the EU (and maybe Zelensky? and maybe not the US?) will find an acceptable outcome.

    I mean absolutely. He could bomb those nuke plants. Maybe the right kind of PR around a cyber attack. He obviously has options for this. It strikes me as easy and obvious. He’s not like some tinpot dictator without any resources.

    But he risks the West upping the ante as well- ATACMS and F-16s for Ukraine would be easy. With the ATACMS many Russian bases would be under grave threat. Russia already can’t establish air superiority in Ukraine- with F-16s Ukraine can greatly worsen the difficulties the Russia Air Force faces. Crimea would be under constant attack & Belgograd would not be safe as well.

    Thanks to Europe’s and America’s energy policies, destroying critical Russian infrastructure will be too much disaster for (innocent) Europeans to willingly live with.

    Rufus is not wrong that everything is a disaster. It’s so bad it almost feels intentional.

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  28. Stina Inactive
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    Any prognostications on how current politics could lead to 1/3 of the world’s population dying?

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  29. RufusRJones Member
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    The Ukraine guy on John Batchelor on Saturday (not Sunday both were good) said that Europe has to tap dance for three years on energy. He wasn’t that pessimistic, but they have to do a lot of socialist crap to get through it.

    Still, it’s killing their export business. It’s very risky for the structure of their government and society.

    * the two guests on John bachelor this weekend were the type of analysis I am looking for. He wouldn’t have anybody on unless they were good.

    Scott Ritter was on Judge Napolitano yesterday. He said a lot of embarrassing things if Ukraine actually wins. I have a feeling that guy just says whatever his crowd wants, but he was really sticking his neck out. YouTube. The iTunes is not up yet.

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  30. RufusRJones Member
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    Personally, this is my view. 

     

     

     

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