12-Step Totalitarian Program: Step 1

 

It is a testament to the power of the human mind to create blind spots to the Truth that so many conservatives and classical liberals who deeply admire and respect Thomas Sowell can still fail to see what he sees. This is understandable, especially for those with public reputations. The mind is designed to protect our self-image and our view of reality. It screens out threats, especially ones that would upend all that we know.

I have no illusions that this essay will persuade the staunchly certain. The mind responds to such certainty by creating blind spots to anything contradicting those certainties. I can only hope this essay chips away at the certainties of many who believe that in America we still have Politics as Usual. That the good fight can still be waged by our elected representatives.

Those able to see the threat in plain sight have taken the time to study, among others:

Hannah Arendt’s The Origins of Totalitarianism:

In an ever-changing, incomprehensible world the masses had reached the point where they would, at the same time, believe everything and nothing, think that everything was possible and that nothing was true. […] under such conditions, one could make people believe the most fantastic statements one day, and trust that if the next day they were given irrefutable proof of their falsehood, they would take refuge in cynicism; instead of deserting the leaders who had lied to them, they would protest that they had known all along that the statement was a lie and would admire the leaders for their superior tactical cleverness.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s The Gulag Archipelago (at least the abridged edition):

Oh, Western freedom-loving left-wing thinkers! Oh, left-wing laborists! Oh, American, German, and French progressive students! All of this is still not enough for you. The whole book has been useless for you. You will understand everything immediately, when you yourself — “hands behind the back” — toddle into our Archipelago.

Whittaker Chambers’ Witness:

“You don’t understand the class structure of American society,” said Smetana, “or you would not ask such a question. In the United States, the working class are Democrats. The middle class are Republicans. The upper class are Communists.”

Stephen Koch’s Double Lives: Spies and Writers in the Secret War of Ideas Against the West:

The aim was never to make Stalinist movies. It was to Stalinize the American glamour culture, while simultaneously giving the apparatus a cash cow capable of producing a large, untraceable supply of much-needed American hard currency to finance various operations around the world. It was also a refuge for favored cultural apparachiki like Bertolt Brecht and Hanns Eisler.

Theodore Dalrymple’s The Wilder Shores of Marx:

Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.

Mattias Desmet’s The Psychology of Totalitarianism:

The fact that, in the current social climate, there is hardly any latitude to expose this decay in the exercise of power is highly dangerous. This is precisely the detrimental influence of the rise of the masses: It is so radically intolerant of dissent opinions that it labels any analysis of dangerous influence from institutions, companies, and so on as “conspiracy theory.” La passion de l’ignorance (the passion for ignorance) is flourishing like never before. And paradoxically, fanatical conspiracy thinking contributes to this problem because it makes more nuanced analyses less visible and more prone to stigmatization. They are tarred by the same brush and guilty by association.

If there is a gap in your reading, you owe it to yourself to fill that gap. Perhaps the 12 steps that follow will encourage you to do so.

But more importantly, consider what actions you are prepared to take when the no-turning-back escalation begins. And much sooner than you think.

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Step #1: Corrupt Education

As explained by 1980s-liberal Walter Karp, in 1905 J.E. Russell, then head of Columbia University Teachers College, pointed out, “How can we justify our practice in schooling the masses in precisely the same manner as we do those who are to be their leaders?”

That same decade, Woodrow Wilson, then president of Princeton University, made the point more explicit: “We want one class of persons to have a liberal education and we want another class of persons, a very much larger class of necessity in every society, to forgo the privilege of a liberal education and fit themselves to perform specific difficult manual tasks.”

A corrupt education, controlled by our betters, simply means keeping the larger population as workers and slaves. By taking over the Teachers Colleges, government can ensure that in K-12, children can remain mostly children by denying them the reading, writing, and thinking skills that would liberate them.

By now, the absolute corruption of “public education” by totalitarian ideology is obvious to all. Yet many still believe that such corruption is more due to ideology or ignorance rather than part of a long-term decentralized plan.

State control of education is the core feature of every totalitarian regime. And we have been tolerating it for decades. Talk to any kid in K-12 about what they learned in a public school that day and note how rare it is to hear any answer that relates to reading, writing, mathematics, real science, real history, and critical thinking.

Although written in 1981, Richard Mitchell’s The Graves of Academe (free online) nailed it:

Schools do not fail. They succeed. Children always learn in school. Always and every day. When their rare and tiny compositions are ‘rated holistically’ without regard for separate ‘aspects’ like spelling, punctuation, capitalization, or even organization, they learn. They learn that mistakes bring no consequences.

We now have more than one generation of children living in adult bodies. Children raising children. It is not an accident.

“In short, it is not merely that Johnny can’t read, or even that Johnny can’t think. Johnny doesn’t know what thinking is, because thinking is so often confused with feeling in many public schools.” Thomas Sowell, Inside American Education

CORRUPT EDUCATION
STATUS AS OF 2022: GOAL ACHIEVED

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  1. The Reticulator Member
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    Pay attention. This Dutch farmer gets it.

    I quit watching after 2:32, after he successfully knocked down a straw man. He needs to be a little more honest about the problem with nitrogen runoff from agriculture, and what the problems are with it. Yes, we’ve been talking about it for 30 years, but the fact that cities are still standing is not really relevant. A lot of farmers have been dealing with the problem just fine since they became aware of it 30 years ago. But not everyone has. I know of communities in two states that have to buy drinking water from elsewhere, at high monthly cost to residential households, because of nitrate contamination from local agriculture.

    I’m not saying the Dutch farmers don’t have a lot of legitimate gripes about high-handed regulation, but this isn’t helping their cause.

    By stopping early you missed the crucial parts.

    That could very well be.  But how does it help his cause to throw in stuff like that?  How many people are going to listen and say, “Well, this is nonsense, but if I invest more of my valuable time in listening to him, he might get to some legitimate gripes?”   A few might do it. I’ve sometimes cut people that much slack, and sometimes it even pays off in the end.  But in this case I’m more likely to look for a better information source.  I’ve gotten burned too many times, lately. 

     

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  2. The Reticulator Member
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    Pay attention. This Dutch farmer gets it.

    I quit watching after 2:32, after he successfully knocked down a straw man. He needs to be a little more honest about the problem with nitrogen runoff from agriculture, and what the problems are with it. Yes, we’ve been talking about it for 30 years, but the fact that cities are still standing is not really relevant. A lot of farmers have been dealing with the problem just fine since they became aware of it 30 years ago. But not everyone has. I know of communities in two states that have to buy drinking water from elsewhere, at high monthly cost to residential households, because of nitrate contamination from local agriculture.

    I’m not saying the Dutch farmers don’t have a lot of legitimate gripes about high-handed regulation, but this isn’t helping their cause.

    So we can all starve.

     

    I wouldn’t recommend it. 

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  3. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    “If this keeps up we’ll all starve!”

    “The solution is to not starve.”

     

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    Pay attention. This Dutch farmer gets it.

    I quit watching after 2:32, after he successfully knocked down a straw man. He needs to be a little more honest about the problem with nitrogen runoff from agriculture, and what the problems are with it. Yes, we’ve been talking about it for 30 years, but the fact that cities are still standing is not really relevant. A lot of farmers have been dealing with the problem just fine since they became aware of it 30 years ago. But not everyone has. I know of communities in two states that have to buy drinking water from elsewhere, at high monthly cost to residential households, because of nitrate contamination from local agriculture.

    I’m not saying the Dutch farmers don’t have a lot of legitimate gripes about high-handed regulation, but this isn’t helping their cause.

    You should have watched a bit longer. The farmers are prepared to make modifications, but are not being permitted to. The stated issue is not the true issue. They want the farmers off of the land, because they want the land.

    OK, you’ve given me a good reason to watch further. 

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  5. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

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    Pay attention. This Dutch farmer gets it.

    I quit watching after 2:32, after he successfully knocked down a straw man. He needs to be a little more honest about the problem with nitrogen runoff from agriculture, and what the problems are with it. Yes, we’ve been talking about it for 30 years, but the fact that cities are still standing is not really relevant. A lot of farmers have been dealing with the problem just fine since they became aware of it 30 years ago. But not everyone has. I know of communities in two states that have to buy drinking water from elsewhere, at high monthly cost to residential households, because of nitrate contamination from local agriculture.

    I’m not saying the Dutch farmers don’t have a lot of legitimate gripes about high-handed regulation, but this isn’t helping their cause.

    So we can all starve.

     

    I wouldn’t recommend it.

    Then we have to use nitrates. 

    So stuff it.

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  6. The Reticulator Member
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    Pay attention. This Dutch farmer gets it.

    I quit watching after 2:32, after he successfully knocked down a straw man. He needs to be a little more honest about the problem with nitrogen runoff from agriculture, and what the problems are with it. Yes, we’ve been talking about it for 30 years, but the fact that cities are still standing is not really relevant. A lot of farmers have been dealing with the problem just fine since they became aware of it 30 years ago. But not everyone has. I know of communities in two states that have to buy drinking water from elsewhere, at high monthly cost to residential households, because of nitrate contamination from local agriculture.

    I’m not saying the Dutch farmers don’t have a lot of legitimate gripes about high-handed regulation, but this isn’t helping their cause.

    So we can all starve.

     

    I wouldn’t recommend it.

    Then we have to use nitrates.

    So stuff it.

    I wouldn’t recommend stuffing it, either.

    The question is not whether we should use nitrogen fertilizer or not. Not all usage practices are a danger to the groundwater.   And the issue is not whether we all starve or not, either. 

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  7. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Pay attention. This Dutch farmer gets it.

    I quit watching after 2:32, after he successfully knocked down a straw man. He needs to be a little more honest about the problem with nitrogen runoff from agriculture, and what the problems are with it. Yes, we’ve been talking about it for 30 years, but the fact that cities are still standing is not really relevant. A lot of farmers have been dealing with the problem just fine since they became aware of it 30 years ago. But not everyone has. I know of communities in two states that have to buy drinking water from elsewhere, at high monthly cost to residential households, because of nitrate contamination from local agriculture.

    I’m not saying the Dutch farmers don’t have a lot of legitimate gripes about high-handed regulation, but this isn’t helping their cause.

    So we can all starve.

     

    I wouldn’t recommend it.

    Then we have to use nitrates.

    So stuff it.

    I wouldn’t recommend stuffing it, either.

    The question is not whether we should use nitrogen fertilizer or not. Not all usage practices are a danger to the groundwater. And the issue is not whether we all starve or not, 

    Excuse me?

    Sri Lanka.

     

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    Pay attention. This Dutch farmer gets it.

    I quit watching after 2:32, after he successfully knocked down a straw man. He needs to be a little more honest about the problem with nitrogen runoff from agriculture, and what the problems are with it. Yes, we’ve been talking about it for 30 years, but the fact that cities are still standing is not really relevant. A lot of farmers have been dealing with the problem just fine since they became aware of it 30 years ago. But not everyone has. I know of communities in two states that have to buy drinking water from elsewhere, at high monthly cost to residential households, because of nitrate contamination from local agriculture.

    I’m not saying the Dutch farmers don’t have a lot of legitimate gripes about high-handed regulation, but this isn’t helping their cause.

    So we can all starve.

     

    I wouldn’t recommend it.

    Then we have to use nitrates.

    So stuff it.

    I wouldn’t recommend stuffing it, either.

    The question is not whether we should use nitrogen fertilizer or not. Not all usage practices are a danger to the groundwater. And the issue is not whether we all starve or not,

    Excuse me?

    Sri Lanka.

     

    What about Sri Lanka?

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  9. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    The question is not whether we should use nitrogen fertilizer or not. Not all usage practices are a danger to the groundwater. And the issue is not whether we all starve or not,

    Excuse me?

    Sri Lanka.

    What about Sri Lanka?

    Really?

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    Pay attention. This Dutch farmer gets it.

    I quit watching after 2:32, after he successfully knocked down a straw man. He needs to be a little more honest about the problem with nitrogen runoff from agriculture, and what the problems are with it. Yes, we’ve been talking about it for 30 years, but the fact that cities are still standing is not really relevant. A lot of farmers have been dealing with the problem just fine since they became aware of it 30 years ago. But not everyone has. I know of communities in two states that have to buy drinking water from elsewhere, at high monthly cost to residential households, because of nitrate contamination from local agriculture.

    I’m not saying the Dutch farmers don’t have a lot of legitimate gripes about high-handed regulation, but this isn’t helping their cause.

    So we can all starve.

     

    I wouldn’t recommend it.

    Then we have to use nitrates.

    So stuff it.

    I wouldn’t recommend stuffing it, either.

    The question is not whether we should use nitrogen fertilizer or not. Not all usage practices are a danger to the groundwater. And the issue is not whether we all starve or not,

    Excuse me?

    Sri Lanka.

     

    What about Sri Lanka?

    Sri Lanka decided to go 100% organic in their agriculture. Grain and vegetable crops failed, so they were going to have to import. Importing costs money. The #1 cash crop is tea. The tea crop failed, due to 100% organic farming. They had to borrow money for food, and for fuel. People started to go hungry in the dark. They assembled to redress their grievances.

    The President is currently in Singapore, attempting to negotiate entry into Thailand.

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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

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    The question is not whether we should use nitrogen fertilizer or not. Not all usage practices are a danger to the groundwater. And the issue is not whether we all starve or not,

    Excuse me?

    Sri Lanka.

    What about Sri Lanka?

    Really?

    Well that proves an utter lack of seriousness. 

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  12. The Reticulator Member
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    Pay attention. This Dutch farmer gets it.

    I quit watching after 2:32, after he successfully knocked down a straw man. He needs to be a little more honest about the problem with nitrogen runoff from agriculture, and what the problems are with it. Yes, we’ve been talking about it for 30 years, but the fact that cities are still standing is not really relevant. A lot of farmers have been dealing with the problem just fine since they became aware of it 30 years ago. But not everyone has. I know of communities in two states that have to buy drinking water from elsewhere, at high monthly cost to residential households, because of nitrate contamination from local agriculture.

    I’m not saying the Dutch farmers don’t have a lot of legitimate gripes about high-handed regulation, but this isn’t helping their cause.

    So we can all starve.

     

    I wouldn’t recommend it.

    Then we have to use nitrates.

    So stuff it.

    I wouldn’t recommend stuffing it, either.

    The question is not whether we should use nitrogen fertilizer or not. Not all usage practices are a danger to the groundwater. And the issue is not whether we all starve or not,

    Excuse me?

    Sri Lanka.

     

    What about Sri Lanka?

    Sri Lanka decided to go 100% organic in their agriculture. Grain and vegetable crops failed, so they were going to have to import. Importing costs money. The #1 cash crop is tea. The tea crop failed, due to 100% organic farming. They had to borrow money for food, and for fuel. People started to go hungry in the dark. They assembled to redress their grievances.

    The President is currently in Singapore, attempting to negotiate entry into Thailand.

    Now you’ve got me interested.  I’ve got to learn more about that. 

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  13. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Pay attention. This Dutch farmer gets it.

    I quit watching after 2:32, after he successfully knocked down a straw man. He needs to be a little more honest about the problem with nitrogen runoff from agriculture, and what the problems are with it. Yes, we’ve been talking about it for 30 years, but the fact that cities are still standing is not really relevant. A lot of farmers have been dealing with the problem just fine since they became aware of it 30 years ago. But not everyone has. I know of communities in two states that have to buy drinking water from elsewhere, at high monthly cost to residential households, because of nitrate contamination from local agriculture.

    I’m not saying the Dutch farmers don’t have a lot of legitimate gripes about high-handed regulation, but this isn’t helping their cause.

    So we can all starve.

     

    I wouldn’t recommend it.

    Then we have to use nitrates.

    So stuff it.

    I wouldn’t recommend stuffing it, either.

    The question is not whether we should use nitrogen fertilizer or not. Not all usage practices are a danger to the groundwater. And the issue is not whether we all starve or not,

    Excuse me?

    Sri Lanka.

     

    What about Sri Lanka?

    Sri Lanka decided to go 100% organic in their agriculture. Grain and vegetable crops failed, so they were going to have to import. Importing costs money. The #1 cash crop is tea. The tea crop failed, due to 100% organic farming. They had to borrow money for food, and for fuel. People started to go hungry in the dark. They assembled to redress their grievances.

    The President is currently in Singapore, attempting to negotiate entry into Thailand.

    Now you’ve got me interested. I’ve got to learn more about that.

     If you actually didn’t know about this until he did this post and you really are politically naive. There’s no reason to listen to you on anything cause you’re not even up on current events.

     

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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    The President is currently in Singapore, attempting to negotiate entry into Thailand.

    Now you’ve got me interested. I’ve got to learn more about that.

    If you actually didn’t know about this until he did this post and you really are politically naive. There’s no reason to listen to you on anything cause you’re not even up on current events.

    I think he’s just joking.

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  15. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    The President is currently in Singapore, attempting to negotiate entry into Thailand.

    Now you’ve got me interested. I’ve got to learn more about that.

    If you actually didn’t know about this until he did this post and you really are politically naive. There’s no reason to listen to you on anything cause you’re not even up on current events.

    I think he’s just joking.

    I’m not so sure. This wouldn’t be the first time he seems blissfully unaware of current events

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  16. The Reticulator Member
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    Pay attention. This Dutch farmer gets it.

    I quit watching after 2:32, after he successfully knocked down a straw man. He needs to be a little more honest about the problem with nitrogen runoff from agriculture, and what the problems are with it. Yes, we’ve been talking about it for 30 years, but the fact that cities are still standing is not really relevant. A lot of farmers have been dealing with the problem just fine since they became aware of it 30 years ago. But not everyone has. I know of communities in two states that have to buy drinking water from elsewhere, at high monthly cost to residential households, because of nitrate contamination from local agriculture.

    I’m not saying the Dutch farmers don’t have a lot of legitimate gripes about high-handed regulation, but this isn’t helping their cause.

    So we can all starve.

     

    I wouldn’t recommend it.

    Then we have to use nitrates.

    So stuff it.

    I wouldn’t recommend stuffing it, either.

    The question is not whether we should use nitrogen fertilizer or not. Not all usage practices are a danger to the groundwater. And the issue is not whether we all starve or not,

    Excuse me?

    Sri Lanka.

     

    What about Sri Lanka?

    Sri Lanka decided to go 100% organic in their agriculture. Grain and vegetable crops failed, so they were going to have to import. Importing costs money. The #1 cash crop is tea. The tea crop failed, due to 100% organic farming. They had to borrow money for food, and for fuel. People started to go hungry in the dark. They assembled to redress their grievances.

    The President is currently in Singapore, attempting to negotiate entry into Thailand.

    Now you’ve got me interested. I’ve got to learn more about that.

    If you actually didn’t know about this until he did this post and you really are politically naive. There’s no reason to listen to you on anything cause you’re not even up on current events.

     

    How many times do I have to tell people that I don’t watch or read the news?  I recommend you don’t rely on me to give you the latest stuff that purports to be news.  However, there’s a great big world of things out there that are not  the latest news, and I recommend you listen to me on some (not all) of those.  It’s kind of stupid foolish to say there’s no reason to listen to me on “anything” because I don’t keep up with current events. 

    C.S. Lewis also believed it was important not to keep up with current events, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t listen to him on things he did know about.

    In the case of the Sri Lanka situation, I learned about it soon enough.  I can’t think of any reason why it would have been useful to know about it sooner. 

     

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  17. Percival Thatcher
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    Pay attention. This Dutch farmer gets it.

    I quit watching after 2:32, after he successfully knocked down a straw man. He needs to be a little more honest about the problem with nitrogen runoff from agriculture, and what the problems are with it. Yes, we’ve been talking about it for 30 years, but the fact that cities are still standing is not really relevant. A lot of farmers have been dealing with the problem just fine since they became aware of it 30 years ago. But not everyone has. I know of communities in two states that have to buy drinking water from elsewhere, at high monthly cost to residential households, because of nitrate contamination from local agriculture.

    I’m not saying the Dutch farmers don’t have a lot of legitimate gripes about high-handed regulation, but this isn’t helping their cause.

    So we can all starve.

     

    I wouldn’t recommend it.

    Then we have to use nitrates.

    So stuff it.

    I wouldn’t recommend stuffing it, either.

    The question is not whether we should use nitrogen fertilizer or not. Not all usage practices are a danger to the groundwater. And the issue is not whether we all starve or not,

    Excuse me?

    Sri Lanka.

     

    What about Sri Lanka?

    Sri Lanka decided to go 100% organic in their agriculture. Grain and vegetable crops failed, so they were going to have to import. Importing costs money. The #1 cash crop is tea. The tea crop failed, due to 100% organic farming. They had to borrow money for food, and for fuel. People started to go hungry in the dark. They assembled to redress their grievances.

    The President is currently in Singapore, attempting to negotiate entry into Thailand.

    Now you’ve got me interested. I’ve got to learn more about that.

    If you actually didn’t know about this until he did this post and you really are politically naive. There’s no reason to listen to you on anything cause you’re not even up on current events.

     

    Nah. You have to go looking for foreign news these days. ‘Twas always thus, but since the coof, it’s worse.

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  18. The Reticulator Member
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    Nah. You have to go looking for foreign news these days. ‘Twas always thus, but since the coof, it’s worse.

    Although I purposely don’t keep up with the “news,” I had seen some headlines about Sri Lanka.  But I hadn’t got around to learning more about it.  More information wouldn’t affect anything I would be doing right away, so there was no hurry.  Most journalism about current events is stupid, so it’s useful to wait until I can get information with some of the stupid filtered out.  

    The FBI Raid on Trump’s home was as little different. I figured I should learn right away what that was all about.  The rule about initial journalism being stupid still holds, of course, but there were a lot of people who had other sources and were passing their info along. 

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    Percival (View Comment):
    Nah. You have to go looking for foreign news these days. ‘Twas always thus, but since the coof, it’s worse.

    Although I purposely don’t keep up with the “news,” I had seen some headlines about Sri Lanka. But I hadn’t got around to learning more about it. More information wouldn’t affect anything I would be doing right away, so there was no hurry. Most journalism about current events is stupid, so it’s useful to wait until I can get information with some of the stupid filtered out.

    The FBI Raid on Trump’s home was as little different. I figured I should learn right away what that was all about. The rule about initial journalism being stupid still holds, of course, but there were a lot of people who had other sources and were passing their info along.

    The Sri Lankan government was trying to point the way to a green future.

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  20. The Reticulator Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):
    Nah. You have to go looking for foreign news these days. ‘Twas always thus, but since the coof, it’s worse.

    Although I purposely don’t keep up with the “news,” I had seen some headlines about Sri Lanka. But I hadn’t got around to learning more about it. More information wouldn’t affect anything I would be doing right away, so there was no hurry. Most journalism about current events is stupid, so it’s useful to wait until I can get information with some of the stupid filtered out.

    The FBI Raid on Trump’s home was as little different. I figured I should learn right away what that was all about. The rule about initial journalism being stupid still holds, of course, but there were a lot of people who had other sources and were passing their info along.

    The Sri Lankan government was trying to point the way to a green future.

    Apparently it was doing worse than pointing. It demanded the future right now.  The head of its government pulled a Bryan G. Stephens and did an all or nothing, banning synthetic fertilizer and pesticides overnight.   As with Bryan, there was no middle ground for him.  

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  21. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    Pay attention. This Dutch farmer gets it.

    I quit watching after 2:32, after he successfully knocked down a straw man. He needs to be a little more honest about the problem with nitrogen runoff from agriculture, and what the problems are with it. Yes, we’ve been talking about it for 30 years, but the fact that cities are still standing is not really relevant. A lot of farmers have been dealing with the problem just fine since they became aware of it 30 years ago. But not everyone has. I know of communities in two states that have to buy drinking water from elsewhere, at high monthly cost to residential households, because of nitrate contamination from local agriculture.

    I’m not saying the Dutch farmers don’t have a lot of legitimate gripes about high-handed regulation, but this isn’t helping their cause.

    But here’s the thing – people need food.

    What we don’t need are spanking green lawns in every front and back yard across America. People fertilize their lawns and that causes nitrogen pollution but no one is eating their lawns. (At least not until Bill Gates creates a “create a front yard for your cricket ranch” program that totally  catches on.)

    This is anther situation where the Greenies are all over an issue demanding a solution that has not at all been well thought out.

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  22. Mark Alexander Inactive
    Mark Alexander
    @MarkAlexander

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  23. Mark Alexander Inactive
    Mark Alexander
    @MarkAlexander

    Bill Whittle gets it.

    https://youtu.be/nFwXhmI0nP0

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  24. Mark Alexander Inactive
    Mark Alexander
    @MarkAlexander

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/dan-bongino-reveals-getting-covid-vaccinated-greatest-regret-life/

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  25. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
    @CarolJoy

    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    When Peterson began discussing the way the Australian populace is to be enslaved by the Zero Emission Intensive Path, I thought about how the Australians are told their energy is not to be used for them as it would hurt the global environment. But then the same week, Australian officials sent off Oz Land’s energy resources for the Ukrainian government to use!! (Because apparently  if that gas or coal is used by Ukrainian officials, it is all Zero Emission Energy!)

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  26. Mark Alexander Inactive
    Mark Alexander
    @MarkAlexander

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  27. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    We are about to reach the final steps. 

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  28. Mark A., Dubious Authority Inactive
    Mark A., Dubious Authority
    @MarkAlexander

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  29. Saint Augustine Member
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    Mark A., Dubious Authority (View Comment):

    VDH might throw in something about bread and circuses and how this is precedented in history to some extent.

    But anyway–yes.

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  30. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
    @CarolJoy

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Mark A., Dubious Authority (View Comment):

    VDH might throw in something about bread and circuses and how this is precedented in history to some extent.

    But anyway–yes.

    Sometime early in the 1800’s, here in the USA, supporters of various candidates would make whiskey available to anyone out and about on Election Day.

    Once the “new friends” of these supporters were juiced up, the supporters would offer a speech or two about how fabulous their candidate was. Then their mission was to ensure that these men got to the right polling place and voted before their new found enthusiasm for politics wore off.

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