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Trans Activists Are Erasing Bisexuals
The more I talk to my kiddo and gathered friends (in SoCal), the more I am getting called “old” and “old fashioned”. Imagine me, a young mother, not yet 50, being schooled by my 18-year-old about how the LGBTQIA+ community isn’t what it used to be.
I’ve been told time and again that my experiences are no longer valid. Whether or not they’d come out and say it exactly, that’s the gist. It would never be said explicitly, because everyone’s experiences are valid, etc, etc. But it has been said to me that everything I know is the old way.
The old way includes bisexuals. You know, the women or men that love women and men.
Since we know now that gender either doesn’t exist at all or is completely non-binary or on a scale of masc to femme (unless you’re indigenous and Two-Spirit), this means that bisexuality no longer exists. The Federalist called it back in 2017. Trans movements are erasing homosexuality. If there is no gender or it is how you feel or it is fluid, then there can be no protections based upon gender or sexual orientation since it can be changed at any moment.
According to my kid, this makes me a TERF.
Maybe it does. But I have always felt that rights for people with various disorders are individual and shouldn’t be lumped into a large, generalized group that does not take into account their various issues. Trans people are not a homogenous group. Some are relatively well adjusted. Many are not. Many have serious identity conflicts that are not just related to their ideas of being in the wrong body.
Regardless, by definition, this eliminates bisexuality. If there are no genders, then bisexuality is a lie. It is even to the point that biresource.org, the resource for bisexuals is now calling it “bi+” because there are trans people who consider themselves bisexual. They even go so far as to define it:
For example, bi+ activist Robyn Ochs defines bisexuality as “the potential for attraction to people with genders similar to and different from [your] own.”
I guess the bi, in bisexual refers to what, then? No one really has an answer for that. It is like lesbian or gay. It is out of fashion. Now it is all just queer.
There is, therefore, only pan-sexuality; the idea that one is attracted to a person, not a gender.
In 2017, 390 people out of 100,000 were estimated to be trans. Approximately 50% of respondents were younger and it was expected that more would identify in the future. According to the Williams Institute, over 1,397,000 people in the US identify as transgender. It is only expected to rise as younger people are identifying more and more as queer, trans, or non-binary.
I never needed particular visibility. I never felt the need to “come out” to anyone. Whoever I dated was my business and if I introduced my person to someone, that was what it was. If I felt like talking about the relationship, I did. If I didn’t, I didn’t. I didn’t need a flag or a pin or an undercut to show just how bisexual I was/wasn’t. I never felt the need to explain it to anyone (except maybe my parents when I was in college, but I got over that).
I still do not need “visibility” or special treatment. What I would like, however, is for my orientation to be respected and not turned into something it isn’t based upon this apparent fluidity of gender. I would like to not be judged as some sort of bigot because I love men and women.
And I want my men to be men and my women to be women.
Otherwise, what is even the point of bisexuality or the attraction to the two? The idea is that they are different. The idea is that it is okay to be attracted to that.
I understand that trans life is very hard and I have known a number of people who have transitioned partially or completely, had surgeries (or not). I am not discounting any of that. But what I do discount is changing the terminology to mean something completely other than what it is.
I am not bisexual+. I am not queer.
Also, I’m not old!
Fun side note: according to the Williams Institute, Texas is gayer than New York by more than 24,000 people.
Second side note: pictures searched through Shutterstock show more “trans” when searching “bisexual”. Can’t be escaped. I will provide no commentary about this.
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With all these “genders,” we should start using the term “multisexual.”
Then there is the sex trade, where all customers are “buysexual” . . .
According to me, that makes your daughter a DERP.
No, it doesn’t stand for anything.
(Don’t worry. She’ll get better.)
I knew some trans women in my 20s thanks to working in the fashion industry. Lots of gay guys too of course. And what they are doing with this unfortunate condition right now is criminal. I’m outraged by it and we should all be. The true numbers of these poor souls is a tiny fraction of a fraction of the general population. When I knew these people, they had to undergo two years, or might have been a year I forget, of intense psychiatric evaluation before any surgery was allowed. It was taken very very seriously, and they weeded out anyone who wasn’t a true case.
But now they’ve turned it into some kind of trendy social fad, and to make matters worse the field of psychiatry has been commandeered by the forces of wokeness, and at the drop of a hat they’re doing irreversible things to people’s bodies, a large percentage of whom I’d bet are going to regret it. And now they’ve started in on children. I cannot even believe the atrocities I’m seeing. And it’s nothing but a cynical move by the LGBT bosses to make themselves seem like a bigger voting bloc than they are or ever could be. I’m old enough to remember when it was “LG.” Every time they added another letter, I saw it for what it was. And now here we are, and there’s even a faction trying to add a “P” for “Pedophiles.” I am so sickened I don’t even know what to think anymore but I do know one thing. This is a sign of a civilization in decline.
The left always eats its own as it moves on to newer and shinier constituencies. This is the progress of Progressives. They keep moving the goal posts.
That’s the result of having no core values.
A discussion on bisexuals from a few years ago . . .
https://ricochet.com/335696/archives/lgbt-when-do-we-get-to-the-b/
I don’ t get it @therightnurse – man/woman is identity, gay/bi/straight is attraction. Broadening identity’s boundaries shouldn’t negate any of the attraction options – though it may make them more specific – ie spelling out what was previously assumed. For eg, I’m a gay man, I like gay cis men. I have nothing against trans men – in fact they’re totally welcome in my community – but not my thing in terms of sex and romance (so far). I’m older than you (57), so I’m certainly a fuddy duddy but I don’t see the issue. Maybe your daughter can set me right on where I’m wrong?
(Also, go Texas!)
I’d make a comment, but I’m distracted by the photo of Lucky Pierre’s formula for domestic bliss. Go to it, Lucky!
Youngster!
How can your experiences be termed invalid? That is “your truth”. It is the highest truth. Perhaps if you cite Sotomayor or Oprah, 18 year olds will respect your experiences . . . just kidding.
It’s not the TE that I have a problem with, it’s the RF.
Well, if everybody is fluid and nobody is any specific thing except by choice-that-isn’t-choice because calling it that is a no-no, is it remotely possible that we can get everyone to shut the [redact] up about it, and get on with their lives?
I suppose not. Because people imagine that they have a right to occupy whatever bathroom they want, and make people adjust to their pronouns-of-the-moment.
And of course we need a military-educational complex to inculcate this new view onto benighted children struggling with the false knowledge that they have a binary sex and sexuality.
The only thing to be conerned about in all of this is the rise of people confused about what they are. This is proof that grooming is working.
All those supposedly intelligent people who label those they disagree with as TERFs.
EDIT: Ideologies that make people stupid.
I’m waiting for corporations to support the LGB community.
The insanity is getting worse.
I’m really sceptical about this. If grooming worked I’d be straight, in fact there would be no gay men or lesbians (or bisexuals).
The large increase in the number of supposed transgenders is evidence that grooming works.
a) Yay, go Texas
b) Maybe the erasure is more a matter of putting all the attention on the trans issue? Also though, I don’t think our definition of the term “grooming” means trying to turn gay people straight ( now there’s a lost cause if I ever saw one). What’s happening in our public schools is more a matter of an incremental and very age-inappropriate exposure to sexual matters. I think it’s the age-appropriate issue that bothers most of us. Me, anyway. I mean I don’t want children exposed to any kind of sexual material straight, gay, or anything else. Premature exposure to this stuff can cause lasting and even permanent damage to young children. And having drag queens in makeup twerking on the floor in front of five-year-olds is beyond disgusting and wrong. Reading “Daddy Has a Roommate” to 7-year-olds, complete with pictures of men in bed together, is just not necessary. These boys are still at the age where they think “girls are icky.” How many of them go home thinking “OMG am I gay? I think girls are icky”?
But then, that might just be the goal. When that book, along with “Heather Has Two Mommies” came out and they were sending Lesbians and gay men into first-grade classrooms to read them aloud to the kids, I saw two of them on a talk show. They said right out loud that their aim is to “get them while they’re still young.” I think they meant while they still have open minds, get them to be accepting. But with the recent blowup of the trans cause, I have a terrible feeling it’s turned into something else. I and many others have nothing against gay people. I have a gay cousin and my best friend in my 20s was a gay guy (and I hate it that I find myself lately having to go the “some of my best friends are…” route). This isn’t about that . It’s so frustrating that you can’t voice rational and well founded objections without being called a homophobe or a bigot. It shuts down the debate. Which is the goal, I think.
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I presume that grooming a young boy who is gay would require a seduction— or persuasion of some sort—by a female but there doesn’t seem to be a market for that.
Yeah. And at the end of the day, the Bs never got anything. Other than the usual: getting called confused, greedy, gay in denial, or promiscuous. People just can’t handle that some people are attracted to (and can even have relationships with!) both sexes.
But now it is even worse because the fluidity of gender or the idea of gender as being a personal construct means that women could really just be men attracted to women and therefore not lesbian, just repressed men in the wrong bodies.
I find it odd how many transgender people are “gay” once they even transition.
But my point is that if there truly are no differences, then bisexuals don’t exist and all sexuality is individual preference based on individual identities at specific times.
Example: Eddie Izzard. For years, he said he just wanted to dress like a woman sometimes. But now, he’s decided he is a woman. Fine. I was attracted to him back in the day, but not as a woman. Is that because I don’t feel attracted to him? No, we’ve already determined that I could be. Is it because I’m sexist? No, I’m attracted to women.
Ah, then it must be because I’m not attracted to him now that he’s a woman and that’s transphobic. And if I really were bi, I’d still be attracted.
…or something.
None of it makes sense.
I’m using the term the ways it’s being used to describe normalising gay or trans identity in schools (with this strange assumption that this means turning straight kids gay, or turning kids trans). I agree that this is a somewhat manipulative use of the word, but anyway – if my parents could have brought me up to be straight they would have. I just don’t think telling kids there’s a possible way for them to be means they’ll turn out that way if they weren’t going to anyway. We have less control over these outcomes than many seem to believe. Imnsho.
I might agree if we weren’t putting children on puberty blockers, to say nothing of surgery. Who knows what they were going to turn out to be if left alone?
I think surgery before 18 is illegal. Is it really happening?
Puberty blockers are troubling enough. Isn’t puberty important to mental and emotional development? This seems to treat it as an inconvenience, at best – but I’d be interested in seeing the reasoning behind it as well as how frequently it’s done.
My sceptical side sees this as the equivalent of SSM as a political issue that galvanises both bases. Do you recall all those claims that SSM would undermine marriage – what, even, would marriage mean? But SSM happened and people woke up the next day and realised it hadn’t changed their own marriages at all. What a nothing burger that turned out to be.
I’m with Andrew Sullivan on this one: With the rarest of exceptions, you can’t turn a gay person straight or a straight person gay. I’m not going to say “Change My Mind”, because in the past ten years or so of Ricochet, we’ve never changed each other’s minds, so why waste the energy trying?
But there are such people as bisexuals, and as TRN says, they seem to annoy the category-addicted. Not many, but some, and probably more females than males. There’s a vastly smaller category of true transsexuals, blown out of proportion by activists and undergoing a fad among adolescents, who are kind of prone to mass hysteria. One thing about calling yourself gender fluid; it means you don’t have to actually have sex with anybody. You’re putting yourself on the sidelines at an age when sex is emotionally intense and emotionally messy.
Bisexuals are different. They don’t seem to be avoiding sex. In many cases, far from it.
Here’s some thoughts, hopefully wisdom, distilled from 37 years of practicing reproductive medicine.
Normal men like to have sex with women. This can lead to a satisfying life.
Normal women like to have sex with men. This too can lead to a satisfying life.
Gay men like to have sex with other gay men. This also can lead to a satisfying life.
Gay women like to have sex with other gay women. This also can lead to a satisfying life.
Bisexual men and women are normal men and women who like to have sex with anyone. This too can lead to a deeply satisfying life. Note that the (presumably) bisexual trio illustrated does not require that the gentleman be bisexual, just polygamous.
Transgendered men and women are deeply ill, are unhappy to be who they are and have unpredictable sexual preferences. This rarely leads to a satisfying life, because the pathology is so profound.
They are not trying to turn the kids. They are trying to get into their pants.
In the meantime, perfectly normal kids run the risk of some overly-sensitive “open-minded” individual getting them redirected into a regimen of puberty-blocking drugs that will change their lives forever.
If it’s not possible to ‘change’ or ‘convince’ or ‘groom’ kids into something other than what they would have chosen themselves then explain the Colorado Junior High School where suddenly one out of three girls reports being trans. Forget about the other words, what I see is indoctrination.
What you’re seeing is a fad. Check back in five years and one in three will report being something else.