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Trans Activists Are Erasing Bisexuals
The more I talk to my kiddo and gathered friends (in SoCal), the more I am getting called “old” and “old fashioned”. Imagine me, a young mother, not yet 50, being schooled by my 18-year-old about how the LGBTQIA+ community isn’t what it used to be.
I’ve been told time and again that my experiences are no longer valid. Whether or not they’d come out and say it exactly, that’s the gist. It would never be said explicitly, because everyone’s experiences are valid, etc, etc. But it has been said to me that everything I know is the old way.
The old way includes bisexuals. You know, the women or men that love women and men.
Since we know now that gender either doesn’t exist at all or is completely non-binary or on a scale of masc to femme (unless you’re indigenous and Two-Spirit), this means that bisexuality no longer exists. The Federalist called it back in 2017. Trans movements are erasing homosexuality. If there is no gender or it is how you feel or it is fluid, then there can be no protections based upon gender or sexual orientation since it can be changed at any moment.
According to my kid, this makes me a TERF.
Maybe it does. But I have always felt that rights for people with various disorders are individual and shouldn’t be lumped into a large, generalized group that does not take into account their various issues. Trans people are not a homogenous group. Some are relatively well adjusted. Many are not. Many have serious identity conflicts that are not just related to their ideas of being in the wrong body.
Regardless, by definition, this eliminates bisexuality. If there are no genders, then bisexuality is a lie. It is even to the point that biresource.org, the resource for bisexuals is now calling it “bi+” because there are trans people who consider themselves bisexual. They even go so far as to define it:
For example, bi+ activist Robyn Ochs defines bisexuality as “the potential for attraction to people with genders similar to and different from [your] own.”
I guess the bi, in bisexual refers to what, then? No one really has an answer for that. It is like lesbian or gay. It is out of fashion. Now it is all just queer.
There is, therefore, only pan-sexuality; the idea that one is attracted to a person, not a gender.
In 2017, 390 people out of 100,000 were estimated to be trans. Approximately 50% of respondents were younger and it was expected that more would identify in the future. According to the Williams Institute, over 1,397,000 people in the US identify as transgender. It is only expected to rise as younger people are identifying more and more as queer, trans, or non-binary.
I never needed particular visibility. I never felt the need to “come out” to anyone. Whoever I dated was my business and if I introduced my person to someone, that was what it was. If I felt like talking about the relationship, I did. If I didn’t, I didn’t. I didn’t need a flag or a pin or an undercut to show just how bisexual I was/wasn’t. I never felt the need to explain it to anyone (except maybe my parents when I was in college, but I got over that).
I still do not need “visibility” or special treatment. What I would like, however, is for my orientation to be respected and not turned into something it isn’t based upon this apparent fluidity of gender. I would like to not be judged as some sort of bigot because I love men and women.
And I want my men to be men and my women to be women.
Otherwise, what is even the point of bisexuality or the attraction to the two? The idea is that they are different. The idea is that it is okay to be attracted to that.
I understand that trans life is very hard and I have known a number of people who have transitioned partially or completely, had surgeries (or not). I am not discounting any of that. But what I do discount is changing the terminology to mean something completely other than what it is.
I am not bisexual+. I am not queer.
Also, I’m not old!
Fun side note: according to the Williams Institute, Texas is gayer than New York by more than 24,000 people.
Second side note: pictures searched through Shutterstock show more “trans” when searching “bisexual”. Can’t be escaped. I will provide no commentary about this.
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I’d like to see for sure that these girls are actually reporting themselves as “trans,” rather than filling out some questionnaire through which they are being categorized by someone else as “trans.”
They can and do change their minds, but they can no longer change their bodies back.
Certainly some people are attracted inexorably, exclusively to their own sex. Why this is so is still something of a mystery, though there are some possible causes. It seems to me to be at least in part, developmental, at least among homosexual males. If it were genetic, the suspect gene would have been long ago eliminated for want of progeny. There is some research suggesting a relationship between exposure to androgens in vitro and homosexuality, but certainly not in all cases.
Nonetheless, among males, when in late puberty, the body is awash in androgens. Sexual stimulation and readiness are uncontrollable, pervasive and confused. This is also the point where grooming could interrupt the typical transition to exclusive adult hetrosexuality and cause confusion. A small and consistent percentage of males will not transition to exclusive hetrosexuality. But most will. It is at this postpubescent state that males are sexually vulnerable and that is when when predatory groomers target them, ala the Boy Scout fiasco or the Catholic Priest sex scandals. This has been noted and documented time and again. It is no less horrific whether the boy in question becomes a hetro or homosexual man.
Also, I believe that there was a large European study some years ago that focused on homosexual and bisexual men. It was determined that nearly all, if not all, of the self-identified bisexual men reacted to same sex images (and not opposite sex images) just as did their homosexual counterparts. This blurred the lines quite a bit and put male “bisexuality” into question. This was not the case among lesbian and bisexual females.
Women may be less exclusively hetro or homosexual. These behaviors have been noted in our close cousins, the bonobos, or as popularly referred to as LUGs or BUGS. Some women are no doubt exclusively lesbian, historically a consistent number, which may have some developmental cause.
So grooming is not the same as “conversion.” But it can cause confusion and trauma among hetrosexual and homosexual targets, especially during puberty. In other words, the entire Trans focus on children has fostered confusion. Trans itself is a confusion. And this confusion, if followed to its extreme conclusion, will result in trauma, self-mutilation and even sterilization. I say, leave our children be. If a child is hetro or homosexual as an adult, fine, but sexual reassignment is folly and should be outlawed, at a minimum, before adulthood.
Its not just Bisexuals that would be erased by the trans ideology, but all gays – how can someone be attracted to the same sex if neither sex exists?
The Lotus Eaters podcast had a segment on this issue as well. Called “This Week in Stupid”:
You folks aren’t thinking big enough. The same ideology that can’t define woman, also can’t define men. There are no men, no women… no straight, no gay, no lesbian, no bi… only trans, and whatever point on the spectrum you happen to decide on today.
Sure but straight isnt part of the alliance. The spoken goal is to minimize the “Cis Gendered Hetro Normative” tyranny that keeps the fruit loops in the bowl.
I think it was a fad.
Now it is an institution within public education.
• Professional medical organizations recommend against puberty blockers for children who have not reached puberty, which typically begins between ages 10 and 12. So they recommend against it which means it never happens, right?
• Hormone treatment for feminization or masculinization of the body is typically not considered until patients are at least 16 years old. Which suggests that younger people do sometimes get it but is atypical.
• Gender reassignment surgery is typically only available to those 18 and older in the United States. More weaselry. Which is just typical of these people.
I’ve seen a photoshopped anatomy illustration making the rounds. It would hurt.
For one thing same sex marriage is very popular, with about 65 to 70 percent of Americans supporting it and a slim majority of Republicans supporting it.
So, of course very few people are going to try to reverse same sex marriage because people fear it would be a vote loser.
Everyone is very confused. Nothing has really changed, but our mental health is in the dumps, and nobody is able to tell up from down because everything they observe creates a cognitive dissonance with everything they claim to believe. This is a predictable outcome – and perhaps the only possible outcome – of a society that has, for the past few decades, denied the existence of objective truth.
Homosexual behavior is found among sea mammals and primates. In other words, homosexuality isn’t just limited to human beings.
Hey -You take that back!
I’ve been told not to believe my lying eyes and that helps me sleep at night.
So…mere existence of such behavior should direct acceptance? Or admiration? Just asking for a friend who is currently wiping off the feces his primate flung at him.
I agree that we should not buy into the “naturalistic fallacy,” the idea that “if something is natural, then it is good and if something isn’t natural, the it is bad.”
Heck. Air conditioning isn’t natural. But it’s good. Anti-biotics aren’t natural. But they are good.
Tornados are natural. But that doesn’t mean they are good.
So many red herrings I don’t know where to begin. Tornados, hurricanes, floods, even lightning strike wildfires are only considered ‘bad’ because humans have chosen to live in their somewhat unpredictable paths. They are certainly natural and serve great purposes…that is until human life is threatened.
I will somewhat apologize for the crassness of the feces example but I am fatigued by the ‘homosexuality exists in nature, therefore…’. Examples of cannibalism can be found in nearly every carnivore society but it shouldn’t mean we carve out an exception for those who are attracted to it.
I wanted to point out that bisexuality is often considered “soft gay” for men in particular. Even as said on this thread, “oh they’re just gay and don’t want to admit it”. This is part of the problem. It isn’t just the hetero folks that say that, it’s also the gay folks. Gay men in particular can put a lot of pressure on men to identify as gay, rather than bisexual, and that any attraction to men is automatically gay (even if somewhat attracted to women). There’s a lot of pressure in the younger generations, as well, to identify as gay because there’s a whole gay culture for men. Not so much a group of bisexual men to circle the wagons.
There’s no “bi culture” to speak of. There’s lots of variant subcultures for gay men: the twinks, the bears, fairies, leathermen. But there isn’t really a group for the bi men. In many ways, they have it worse than bi women. At least bisexual women get the same ol’ crap that all women with a healthy sexuality get (called a whore, slut, greedy, etc). The men, on the other hand, basically get told by people they date that they have to pick a side or that they’re *really* just gay.
It’s pretty crappy.
I know a few bisexual men. And I know some gay men that I would classify as being bisexual. But culturally, they’re “gay” and are in a permanent homosexual relationship. They’re attracted to women and have slept with more than a few women.
But in gay culture that’s just their self-hatred and personal denial, rather than something they liked and enjoyed at the time and might also still enjoy…if it weren’t verboten by their peer groups.
I agree that we should not fall into the trap of the naturalistic fallacy.
Just because something exists in nature does not mean that is it “good.”
Some mushrooms growing in a local state park might exist “naturally,” but that doesn’t mean it would be “good” for me to eat those mushrooms.
Human beings have a “natural” tendency towards violence. But that doesn’t mean that violence is always good.
There aren’t a lot of long term stats on this.
If you’d like, though, you can look at the more immediate studies where they’re looking at the medical harms presented alone (loss of fertility, changes in bone density, etc).
https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&AuthType=ip,shib&db=c8h&AN=134830066&site=eds-live&scope=site&custid=ns247570
If you look through EBSCO or through other scholastic search engines, you may be able to find more info. But frankly, there’s (as the article describes it) a “paucity of information” about longitudinal results. Particularly in people who would like to de-transition. Many of those people were already very high risk for suicidal ideation, much less attempts. If one had gone through what one had presumed was the one thing that would make everything better and it didn’t? Do you suppose, I dunno, they might go through with their darker thoughts? I wonder how many of the transgender suicides have less to do with being transgender (in the sense of not being able to live as their preferred gender) versus the idea that changing their gender would solve their problems?
So many people in the de-transitioned community repeat that over and over. They thought that HRT would fix things. They thought that they’d feel better if they looked like they imagined. But they couldn’t *be* the other gender, not completely. Transmen couldn’t father children. Transwomen couldn’t give birth. They looked the part, but they were not, fully, the part they wanted (or how they perceived it would be, really).
Frankly, I’d rather we stop methodically chopping society into smaller and smaller “cultures”, as doing so just seems to set smaller and smaller subcultures against each other. This need to be part of a “culture” defined by sexual preference has created an ever growing list of labels, ensuring we don’t ever find commonalities with which to ally. I’ve got people in my life who have gone from gay to trans to non-binary. How about I don’t give a sh** and just refer to you same as always (in the case I’m referring to, “niece”)
This type of dividing is done with race and it’s destructive.
Frankly, to me it’s just another example of people looking for their piece of victim pie.
Forgot something.
Looked through EBSCO for the search term “detransitioning”. 67 hits. Only. I would then say that it would be pretty difficult to say what the permanent outcomes are, but that the current research seems to emphasize reducing buyer’s remorse. There’s a lovely Canadian article about convincing people who underwent reassignment and were unhappy that it was due to their underlying mental issues, that medical malpractice suits should be avoided, and that the medical community should be less cisgender normative. Citation follows.
Enjoy your searches.
Being gender confused is the sign of a psychological or physical problem. (Though not necessarily in the case of very small children)
Efforts to transition and for community to affirm does nothing to address the actual problem; hence suicide rates remain distressingly high, regardless of transition status.
Let your freak flag fly, then.
You first.
What if your niece identifies as your nephew?
Truth.
Particularly in the youngest generations where that is how they relate to society. See TikTok tics for more fun.
Young people, in particular, want to feel special. Being gay isn’t special anymore. Being trans is the new hotness. We’re also getting into trans-species stuff with people who are furries or believe that they are “-spirited”. In the more…um…nontraditional religious groups, there are a number of people who consider themselves partially spirited/souled/encumbered? by animal spirits/fantasy creature spirits/etc. Just wait until that hits.
You mean, I have to wait, I can’t start ignoring them now?
And don’t get me started on the mothers for whom a gay child was an accessory and now want the latest and greatest.
Agreed.
Although, I would also point out that trans affirmation really harms feminists the most.
I was told as a child that I could be anything I wanted to be. Girls didn’t have to be nurses or teachers. We could be CEO. We could be President. We could be anything. Being a girl had little to do with it. Like soccer? Great. Go play. Want to climb trees? Great. Go play.
Mud pies? Awesome. Go play. Dinosaurs? Awesome! Sharks? Great!
I was not restricted to dance classes and sewing.
I was told that I could wear jeans and a t-shirt and still be a girl. I didn’t have to wear a ton of makeup or wear heels everywhere. I was still a woman. And it was okay. And it was okay to like those things or enjoy sports. It didn’t make me less woman.
I fear more for the next generation of kids. Our kids’ kids. They’re being told that those things are a sign that you’re in the wrong body, that you should feel wrong in your body. Not that it is normal to be inconvenienced and irritated by hormonal shifts, boobs that grow and hurt and get in the way, and that time of the month always being right in the middle of something important that you need to do. They’re being told that not being completely delighted with all of these things means that somehow, secretly, they’re male.
I worry about that.
And at the end of the day, even if I wanted to be male (which I don’t, regardless of how manly I may or may not be), I can’t presume to know what that experience is. I could flatten my chest, cut my hair, and pack so that I could pass in public. I could take hormones and grow a beard. But I would still never know what it is like to wake up in the morning with my little buddy having ideas of what I was going to be doing in the next few minutes. I would still never know what it is like to grow up and develop like other boys (or not as other boys) and deal with male aggression/social issues. I would still never know what it felt like to get kicked in the balls. I can imagine. But I would never know.
And so, I just accept that I’m who I am. I am a woman. I might be a manly woman. But not always. Sometimes I’m more of a girly girl. Depends on the day. But that’s freakin’ okay.
We are allowed. No one is the perfect example of male/female. No one has to be in order to be their birth sex.
You can. But it’s coming…