The Disgraceful Lia Thomas

 

I’ve written elsewhere about this fellow, the guy who poses as a woman and crushes the hopes and dreams of real female college athletes. Finally one woman has come out publicly to complain about it, as reported in this blunt but excellent piece in the Spectator:

Reka Gyorgy showed commendable courage this weekend for finally speaking out against the National College Athletic Association’s rules regarding trans competitors. The Virginia Tech swimmer and Olympian was bumped out of a finals spot in the 500 free due to transgender University of Pennsylvania swimmer Lia Thomas’s participation.

I applaud her for having the guts to use her real name when challenging the debased orthodoxy. I’m sorry that she still felt compelled to pay lip service to Mr. Thomas, express her support for him, etc. But coming out opposed to this travesty of competitive justice is long overdue, and I’m glad to see it beginning.

I will continue to assume that Mr. Thomas suffers from some pretty serious psychiatric disorders, and that’s why he behaves so abominably and is so utterly devoid of pride, self-respect, and consideration for his teammates.

On a positive note, he and people like him will, I expect, finally turn the tide of public opinion away from the destructive foolishness that is the so-called “trans” movement.

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  1. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    The Scarecrow (View Comment):
    But the critical thing is that they altered it at all, which should make them lose all credibility as a commentator on the issue.

    The media doctored something to fit a narrative!? Like that’s never happened before. I’m not sure they care very much about lost credibility.

    Next thing you know they’ll make up election results.  

    • #61
  2. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    we should all speak out against this kind of thing, if we’d like to live in a more decent society.

    If you take any other position you are a part of the problem.  

    • #62
  3. Hoyacon Member
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    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    So I saw this, written by a Genders Study professor, of course.

    Wait, was Jackie Robinson really white?

    • #63
  4. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):
    If you sincerely believe this is wrong, and tantamount to legalized cheating excused by some bizarro world woke-ism, then you should not participate, don’t show up and explain you believe men competing against women is cheating.

    That would be ideal. However, it’s asking a lot of a young college athlete to abandon his or her participation in order to make a point, particularly given that he or she is going to be excoriated, ostracized, and stigmatized. They’re victims in this; the rest of us should be fixing the culture.

    If you sincerely believe the competition is systematically unfair, then the obligation is to the wronged competitor to voice their opposition to the cheating by not participating

    If you are fine with the current position of the NCAA, then go ahead and have the women compete against men in women’s competitive sports.

    I’m not sure what manual you’re consulting, Edison, to decide who is obligated to address this particular injustice. But it seems to me that we should all speak out against this kind of thing, if we’d like to live in a more decent society.

    The manual of unfair competition/cheating ….. Take this Lia Thomas example to the future extreme and imagine a NCAA national women’s swimming competition where nearly every participant is a biological male. Now the idiots of the woke NCAA have effectively inadvertently eliminated women’s sport altogether since the only participants or biological males. Coaches will begin recruiting only biological males to stay competitive, mediocre male athletes will start considering whether to take the drugs or get the surgeries to be considered female in whatever NCAA guidelines are used to determine this type of weirdness.

    If the vast majority of those women currently on NCAA collegiate teams did not to participate in protest, the NCAA would be forced into either banning biological males from competing in the women’s sports, or the NCAA would have to eliminate women’s sports altogether due to lack of participants.

    Yes it’s a severe penalty to those women currently on athletic scholarship or those women who simply enjoy competing in the sport they love, but it would work, and it would work right away in real time as the MSM Sports media and the NCAA wrestled with the unintended consequences of their woke-ism.

    Start a new athletic association. 

    Do the equivalent of “taking a knee” before or after the competition.  

    Do something.  

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  5. Henry Racette Member
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    So I saw this, written by a Genders Study professor, of course.

    Wait, was Jackie Robinson really white?

    SNORT!

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  6. Gary Robbins Member
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    DaveSchmidt

    Deleted.  I decline to derail this post based upon Comment #61.

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  7. Hoyacon Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DaveSchmidt

    Deleted. I decline to derail this post based upon Comment #61.

    There’s a first time for everything. :)

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  8. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    MWD B612 "Dawg" (View Comment):

    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    MWD B612 "Dawg" (View Comment):

    Henry Racette: Reka Gyorgy showed commendable courage this weekend for finally speaking out against the National College Athletic Association’s rules regarding trans competitors. The Virginia Tech swimmer and Olympian was bumped out of a finals spot in the 500 free due to transgender University of Pennsylvania swimmer Lia Thomas’s participation.

    She did so on her Twitter account as well and was promptly suspended.

    By whom?

    Twitter suspended her.

    Sorry, I should have been clearer.

    Not her team, then.  

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  9. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DaveSchmidt

    Deleted. I decline to derail this post based upon Comment #61.

    Fair enough.  

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  10. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    Imagine what would happen if all the other women in the competition refused to participate. This stuff would stop immediately. It’ll take a bunch of women with more balls than “Lia” to stop this.

    That will not happen. There is prizes to be won. Glory to be won. Money to be made. So somebody will always show up for it. All stepping out does is remove that person from the spoils.

    It runs deeper than that. Most of these young women have trained for years in their respective sports. It’s not hard for us to be on the side and say “take a stand.” But their window is small before moving on with life. I honestly don’t fault anyone who says “this is my moment and I’m going to do my best whether he’s here or not.”

    The burden here is on the adults and governing bodies.

    My problem is that these young ladies most likely have highly liberal points of view and would cancel me in a minute for the lutz.  Now they have to live with their ideology.   Maybe they can think of it as a teachable moment.

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  11. Henry Racette Member
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    Imagine what would happen if all the other women in the competition refused to participate. This stuff would stop immediately. It’ll take a bunch of women with more balls than “Lia” to stop this.

    That will not happen. There is prizes to be won. Glory to be won. Money to be made. So somebody will always show up for it. All stepping out does is remove that person from the spoils.

    It runs deeper than that. Most of these young women have trained for years in their respective sports. It’s not hard for us to be on the side and say “take a stand.” But their window is small before moving on with life. I honestly don’t fault anyone who says “this is my moment and I’m going to do my best whether he’s here or not.”

    The burden here is on the adults and governing bodies.

    My problem is that these young ladies most likely have highly liberal points of view and would cancel me in a minute for the lutz. Now they have to live with their ideology. Maybe they can think of it as a teachable moment.

    Yes. Let’s let their end of the life raft sink.

    • #71
  12. Barfly Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    America’s Governor:

    DeSantis Recognizes Female NCAA Athlete, Not Lia Thomas, as Top Women’s Swimmer

    Gov. Ron DeSantis (R., Fla.) in an official state declaration on Tuesday recognized Sarasota native Emma Weyant, not trans swimmer Lia Thomas, as the winner of the NCAA women’s 500-yard freestyle.

    “By allowing men to compete in women’s sports, the NCAA is destroying opportunities for women, making a mockery of its championships, and perpetuating a fraud,” DeSantis said on Twitter when he announced Weyant’s win. “In Florida, we reject these lies and recognize Sarasota’s Emma Weyant as the best women’s swimmer in the 500y freestyle.”

     

    RDS is going to be the next elected President.

    • #72
  13. Henry Racette Member
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    Barfly (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    America’s Governor:

    DeSantis Recognizes Female NCAA Athlete, Not Lia Thomas, as Top Women’s Swimmer

    Gov. Ron DeSantis (R., Fla.) in an official state declaration on Tuesday recognized Sarasota native Emma Weyant, not trans swimmer Lia Thomas, as the winner of the NCAA women’s 500-yard freestyle.

    “By allowing men to compete in women’s sports, the NCAA is destroying opportunities for women, making a mockery of its championships, and perpetuating a fraud,” DeSantis said on Twitter when he announced Weyant’s win. “In Florida, we reject these lies and recognize Sarasota’s Emma Weyant as the best women’s swimmer in the 500y freestyle.”

     

    RDS is going to be the next elected President.

    The man’s got bigger balls than Lia Thomas.

    (Am I allowed to say that?)

    • #73
  14. T-Fiks Member
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

     

    My problem is that these young ladies most likely have highly liberal points of view and would cancel me in a minute for the lutz. Now they have to live with their ideology. Maybe they can think of it as a teachable moment.

    Yes. Let’s let their end of the life raft sink.

    Part of the reason for the muted response from female athletes is that there is still a residue of the old feminist assertion that the only reason that females can’t compete with males is systemic sexism. For a long time, it was conventional wisdom among femininists that if women were only given equal support for their athletic aspirations, they would eventually catch up with men–on the basketball court, the swimming pool, and on every other field of competition.
    Going after frauds like Lia Thomas means abandoning that assertion.

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  15. EDISONPARKS Member
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):
    If you sincerely believe this is wrong, and tantamount to legalized cheating excused by some bizarro world woke-ism, then you should not participate, don’t show up and explain you believe men competing against women is cheating.

    That would be ideal. However, it’s asking a lot of a young college athlete to abandon his or her participation in order to make a point, particularly given that he or she is going to be excoriated, ostracized, and stigmatized. They’re victims in this; the rest of us should be fixing the culture.

    If you sincerely believe the competition is systematically unfair, then the obligation is to the wronged competitor to voice their opposition to the cheating by not participating

    If you are fine with the current position of the NCAA, then go ahead and have the women compete against men in women’s competitive sports.

    I’m not sure what manual you’re consulting, Edison, to decide who is obligated to address this particular injustice. But it seems to me that we should all speak out against this kind of thing, if we’d like to live in a more decent society.

    The manual of unfair competition/cheating ….. Take this Lia Thomas example to the future extreme and imagine a NCAA national women’s swimming competition where nearly every participant is a biological male. Now the idiots of the woke NCAA have effectively inadvertently eliminated women’s sport altogether since the only participants or biological males. Coaches will begin recruiting only biological males to stay competitive, mediocre male athletes will start considering whether to take the drugs or get the surgeries to be considered female in whatever NCAA guidelines are used to determine this type of weirdness.

    If the vast majority of those women currently on NCAA collegiate teams did not to participate in protest, the NCAA would be forced into either banning biological males from competing in the women’s sports, or the NCAA would have to eliminate women’s sports altogether due to lack of participants.

    Yes it’s a severe penalty to those women currently on athletic scholarship or those women who simply enjoy competing in the sport they love, but it would work, and it would work right away in real time as the MSM Sports media and the NCAA wrestled with the unintended consequences of their woke-ism.

    I just don’t think it’s realistic to expect a bunch of girls who don’t have a Lia Thomas on their team to give up their dreams in protest. These young ladies are at ground zero of wokeness, victims of our gutless higher-ed establishment, with everything on the line. I can’t fault them for just wanting to fly under the radar for another two years and get out.

    Would you voluntarily participate in a high stakes poker game when you knew the game was fixed and you had no chance of winning?

    • #75
  16. Henry Racette Member
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    HR: I just don’t think it’s realistic to expect a bunch of girls who don’t have a Lia Thomas on their team to give up their dreams in protest. These young ladies are at ground zero of wokeness, victims of our gutless higher-ed establishment, with everything on the line. I can’t fault them for just wanting to fly under the radar for another two years and get out.

    Would you voluntarily participate in a high stakes poker game when you knew the game was fixed and you had no chance of winning?

    Bad analogy, Edison.

    Suppose you’re a girl at a school that doesn’t have a man competing as a woman. You get to compete, you rarely come up against Mr. Thomas so he really isn’t a factor. Maybe you’re on a scholarship, maybe you have Olympic hopes. You’ve got a shot at a national ranking. You have friends, your liberal professors treat you well. Life is okay, even if you hated to see that guy at the University of Pennsylvania kind of cheating his way to victory.

    So the upside of keeping your mouth shut is that you can finish your last couple of years, maybe win some prizes, graduate, and not be looked at like a Neanderthal by your peer group and your woke teachers.

    The downside of speaking out is that you might lose all of your friends, you might lose your social media, you might get driven out of school by a hateful mob, you might not be accepted anywhere else, and everyone will hate you.

    Not participating in a rigged poker game is easy. There’s no downside to walking away.

    • #76
  17. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Barfly (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    America’s Governor:

    DeSantis Recognizes Female NCAA Athlete, Not Lia Thomas, as Top Women’s Swimmer

    Gov. Ron DeSantis (R., Fla.) in an official state declaration on Tuesday recognized Sarasota native Emma Weyant, not trans swimmer Lia Thomas, as the winner of the NCAA women’s 500-yard freestyle.

    “By allowing men to compete in women’s sports, the NCAA is destroying opportunities for women, making a mockery of its championships, and perpetuating a fraud,” DeSantis said on Twitter when he announced Weyant’s win. “In Florida, we reject these lies and recognize Sarasota’s Emma Weyant as the best women’s swimmer in the 500y freestyle.”

     

    RDS is going to be the next elected President.

    Maybe elected, doubtful if recognized or installed.

    • #77
  18. Henry Racette Member
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Barfly (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    America’s Governor:

    DeSantis Recognizes Female NCAA Athlete, Not Lia Thomas, as Top Women’s Swimmer

    Gov. Ron DeSantis (R., Fla.) in an official state declaration on Tuesday recognized Sarasota native Emma Weyant, not trans swimmer Lia Thomas, as the winner of the NCAA women’s 500-yard freestyle.

    “By allowing men to compete in women’s sports, the NCAA is destroying opportunities for women, making a mockery of its championships, and perpetuating a fraud,” DeSantis said on Twitter when he announced Weyant’s win. “In Florida, we reject these lies and recognize Sarasota’s Emma Weyant as the best women’s swimmer in the 500y freestyle.”

     

    RDS is going to be the next elected President.

    Maybe elected, doubtful if recognized or installed.

    Optimist: The glass is half full.

    Pessimist: The glass is half empty.

    FJJG: The half you drank was poison and you’re going to die, probably horribly.

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  19. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    HR: I just don’t think it’s realistic to expect a bunch of girls who don’t have a Lia Thomas on their team to give up their dreams in protest. These young ladies are at ground zero of wokeness, victims of our gutless higher-ed establishment, with everything on the line. I can’t fault them for just wanting to fly under the radar for another two years and get out.

    Would you voluntarily participate in a high stakes poker game when you knew the game was fixed and you had no chance of winning?

    Bad analogy, Edison.

    Suppose you’re a girl at a school that doesn’t have a man competing as a woman. You get to compete, you rarely come up against Mr. Thomas so he really isn’t a factor. Maybe you’re on a scholarship, maybe you have Olympic hopes. You’ve got a shot at a national ranking. You have friends, your liberal professors treat you well. Life is okay, even if you hated to see that guy at the University of Pennsylvania kind of cheating his way to victory.

    So the upside of keeping your mouth shut is that you can finish your last couple of years, maybe win some prizes, graduate, and not be looked at like a Neanderthal by your peer group and your woke teachers.

    The downside of speaking out is that you might lose all of your friends, you might lose your social media, you might get driven out of school by a hateful mob, you might not be accepted anywhere else, and everyone will hate you.

    Not participating in a rigged poker game is easy. There’s no downside to walking away.

    That is a good point.  This really does not bother us.  Who cares what wins some woman sports game? Why are we even bothering talking about it.  It is not like anything we do will change the result for anybody much less us.

    • #79
  20. EDISONPARKS Member
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    HR: I just don’t think it’s realistic to expect a bunch of girls who don’t have a Lia Thomas on their team to give up their dreams in protest. These young ladies are at ground zero of wokeness, victims of our gutless higher-ed establishment, with everything on the line. I can’t fault them for just wanting to fly under the radar for another two years and get out.

    Would you voluntarily participate in a high stakes poker game when you knew the game was fixed and you had no chance of winning?

    Bad analogy, Edison.

    Suppose you’re a girl at a school that doesn’t have a man competing as a woman. You get to compete, you rarely come up against Mr. Thomas so he really isn’t a factor. Maybe you’re on a scholarship, maybe you have Olympic hopes. You’ve got a shot at a national ranking. You have friends, your liberal professors treat you well. Life is okay, even if you hated to see that guy at the University of Pennsylvania kind of cheating his way to victory.

    So the upside of keeping your mouth shut is that you can finish your last couple of years, maybe win some prizes, graduate, and not be looked at like a Neanderthal by your peer group and your woke teachers.

    The downside of speaking out is that you might lose all of your friends, you might lose your social media, you might get driven out of school by a hateful mob, you might not be accepted anywhere else, and everyone will hate you.

    Not participating in a rigged poker game is easy. There’s no downside to walking away.

    How you get to the final result is complicated as you describe, but once you’re lined up in a final heat against a 6’4″ biological male who competed as a D1 swimmer last year as a male, the final result of the biological male blowing away the field of biological females is exactly the same as sitting down at a fixed poker game ….. you’re going to lose because the game is fixed …. the biological male is cheating by claiming to be a female, and the idiots in the NCAA are fixing the game.

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  21. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):
    If you sincerely believe this is wrong, and tantamount to legalized cheating excused by some bizarro world woke-ism, then you should not participate, don’t show up and explain you believe men competing against women is cheating.

    That would be ideal. However, it’s asking a lot of a young college athlete to abandon his or her participation in order to make a point, particularly given that he or she is going to be excoriated, ostracized, and stigmatized. They’re victims in this; the rest of us should be fixing the culture.

    If you sincerely believe the competition is systematically unfair, then the obligation is to the wronged competitor to voice their opposition to the cheating by not participating

    If you are fine with the current position of the NCAA, then go ahead and have the women compete against men in women’s competitive sports.

    I’m not sure what manual you’re consulting, Edison, to decide who is obligated to address this particular injustice. But it seems to me that we should all speak out against this kind of thing, if we’d like to live in a more decent society.

    The manual of unfair competition/cheating ….. Take this Lia Thomas example to the future extreme and imagine a NCAA national women’s swimming competition where nearly every participant is a biological male. Now the idiots of the woke NCAA have effectively inadvertently eliminated women’s sport altogether since the only participants or biological males. Coaches will begin recruiting only biological males to stay competitive, mediocre male athletes will start considering whether to take the drugs or get the surgeries to be considered female in whatever NCAA guidelines are used to determine this type of weirdness.

     

    Yes it’s a severe penalty to those women currently on athletic scholarship or those women who simply enjoy competing in the sport they love, but it would work, and it would work right away in real time as the MSM Sports media and the NCAA wrestled with the unintended consequences of their woke-ism.

    I just don’t think it’s realistic to expect a bunch of girls who don’t have a Lia Thomas on their team to give up their dreams in protest. These young ladies are at ground zero of wokeness, victims of our gutless higher-ed establishment, with everything on the line. I can’t fault them for just wanting to fly under the radar for another two years and get out.

    Would you voluntarily participate in a high stakes poker game when you knew the game was fixed and you had no chance of winning?

    Every day I wake up.  Life is a rigged crooked game but the only one we have.

    • #81
  22. Henry Racette Member
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):
    How you get to the final result is complicated as you describe, but once you’re lined up in a final heat against a 6’4″ biological male who competed as a D1 swimmer last year as a male, the final result of the biological male blowing away the field of biological females is exactly the same as sitting down at a fixed poker game ….. you’re going to lose and because the game is fixed …. the biological male is cheating by claiming to be a female, and the idiots in the NCAA are fixing the game.

    I think I probably miscommunicated, Edison. The cost is not in losing — most girls are going to come in at something other than first place in most races, whether or not Mr. Thomas is racing against them.

    The cost is in walking away. You can walk away from a poker game and lose nothing. These girls can’t walk away from collegiate athletics for this reason without risking losing quite a lot.

    • #82
  23. The Reticulator Member
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    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    If the vast majority of those women currently on NCAA collegiate teams did not to participate in protest, the NCAA would be forced into either banning biological males from competing in the women’s sports, or the NCAA would have to eliminate women’s sports altogether due to lack of participants.

    Yes it’s a severe penalty to those women currently on athletic scholarship or those women who simply enjoy competing in the sport they love, but it would work, and it would work right away in real time as the MSM Sports media and the NCAA wrestled with the unintended consequences of their woke-ism.

    Start a new athletic association. 

    Do the equivalent of “taking a knee” before or after the competition.  

    Do something.  

    I doubt anything is going to get fixed if those on the inside let those on the outside do the squawking, or vice versa. It needs to be both. 

    • #83
  24. Henry Racette Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    If the vast majority of those women currently on NCAA collegiate teams did not to participate in protest, the NCAA would be forced into either banning biological males from competing in the women’s sports, or the NCAA would have to eliminate women’s sports altogether due to lack of participants.

    Yes it’s a severe penalty to those women currently on athletic scholarship or those women who simply enjoy competing in the sport they love, but it would work, and it would work right away in real time as the MSM Sports media and the NCAA wrestled with the unintended consequences of their woke-ism.

    Start a new athletic association.

    Do the equivalent of “taking a knee” before or after the competition.

    Do something.

    I doubt anything is going to get fixed if those on the inside let those on the outside do the squawking, or vice versa. It needs to be both.

    I think those on the inside — that is, the women competing with the man — are paying a heavy price and resent it greatly. But they have the most to lose from speaking out, unless speaking out actually changes something.

    I think, as in so many cases, normal people must speak up so that those targeted by this nonsense know they have support.

    • #84
  25. The Reticulator Member
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    If the vast majority of those women currently on NCAA collegiate teams did not to participate in protest, the NCAA would be forced into either banning biological males from competing in the women’s sports, or the NCAA would have to eliminate women’s sports altogether due to lack of participants.

    Yes it’s a severe penalty to those women currently on athletic scholarship or those women who simply enjoy competing in the sport they love, but it would work, and it would work right away in real time as the MSM Sports media and the NCAA wrestled with the unintended consequences of their woke-ism.

    Start a new athletic association.

    Do the equivalent of “taking a knee” before or after the competition.

    Do something.

    I doubt anything is going to get fixed if those on the inside let those on the outside do the squawking, or vice versa. It needs to be both.

    I think those on the inside — that is, the women competing with the man — are paying a heavy price and resent it greatly. But they have the most to lose from speaking out, unless speaking out actually changes something.

    I think, as in so many cases, normal people must speak up so that those targeted by this nonsense know they have support.

    So then it’s an impasse and nothing will be done. 

    • #85
  26. Henry Racette Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    HR: I think those on the inside — that is, the women competing with the man — are paying a heavy price and resent it greatly. But they have the most to lose from speaking out, unless speaking out actually changes something.

    I think, as in so many cases, normal people must speak up so that those targeted by this nonsense know they have support.

    So then it’s an impasse and nothing will be done.

    Only if normal people do not speak up. But I think normal people are speaking up. I think we are seeing that just beginning.

    • #86
  27. Chuck Coolidge
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    Late to the conversation, but I do know several college aged young ladies that have just quietly left rather than remain and perhaps compete against a man. Right? Wrong? It’s complicated.

    Personally, my opinion is closer to that of Mr. Galt, but if we are going to have male/female competitions then we ought not make a mockery of them.

    • #87
  28. Manny Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Henry Racette: On a positive note, he and people like him will, I expect, finally turn the tide of public opinion away from the destructive foolishness that is the so-called “trans” movement.

    From your lips to G-d’s ears.

    What’s surprising is that it hasn’t.  There is a solid segment of the population that has bought into the transgender thing.  Once you bought into the whole gay marriage lie, then it’s an easy step to transgenderism.  That’s why it has gotten all the support.  I hope the public slams it down but I do not hold hope.

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  29. Henry Racette Member
    Henry Racette
    @HenryRacette

    Manny (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Henry Racette: On a positive note, he and people like him will, I expect, finally turn the tide of public opinion away from the destructive foolishness that is the so-called “trans” movement.

    From your lips to G-d’s ears.

    What’s surprising is that it hasn’t. There is a solid segment of the population that has bought into the transgender thing. Once you bought into the whole gay marriage lie, then it’s an easy step to transgenderism. That’s why it has gotten all the support. I hope the public slams it down but I do not hold hope.

    I am not convinced that a significant segment of the population thinks this makes sense. I think most of them think it is harmless, and don’t think much about it. Abigail Schrier’s book is an excellent education, and I encourage people to read it.

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  30. EDISONPARKS Member
    EDISONPARKS
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):
    How you get to the final result is complicated as you describe, but once you’re lined up in a final heat against a 6’4″ biological male who competed as a D1 swimmer last year as a male, the final result of the biological male blowing away the field of biological females is exactly the same as sitting down at a fixed poker game ….. you’re going to lose and because the game is fixed …. the biological male is cheating by claiming to be a female, and the idiots in the NCAA are fixing the game.

    I think I probably miscommunicated, Edison. The cost is not in losing — most girls are going to come in at something other than first place in most races, whether or not Mr. Thomas is racing against them.

    The cost is in walking away. You can walk away from a poker game and lose nothing. These girls can’t walk away from collegiate athletics for this reason without risking losing quite a lot.

    Then the women NCAA athletes will have to accept competing in a sport in which they can never win, given once cheating is legal, then you can expect more biological males to continue competing as women in greater numbers in  NCAA women’s sports.

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