Shadows in the Metaverse

There are no crystal balls on Ricochet, but we can’t keep our eyes off the future. What’s to become of the GOP? Hard to say; but our guest David Drucker has written a book and launched his very own podcast to ponder these very questions. Rob and James put him in the interviewee seat for a change get his take on how candidates will have to navigate a climate that’s been permanently altered by Donald Trump.

Photo: Twitter/@holmes_reports/NBC29

How does the former president affect local and state elections? What should make of the upcoming election in Virginia? (What the heck’s up with those tiki-torchers?) And, most importantly, how do the members of the ever-growing crowd of Republican hopefuls get attention while living in Trump’s shadow?

You’ll have to listen to find out!

Also, Peter pops in to tell us about the Rupert Murdoch birthday celebration he attended, plus Rob and James debate the consequences of Zuckerberg’s hopes to take us all to the metaverse.

Music from this week’s podcast: Complicated Shadows by Elvis Costello

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  1. EJHill Podcaster
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    Here’s the film James was talking about at the end of the podcast:

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  2. ToryWarWriter Thatcher
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    Thats a good Podcast picture.

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  3. BDB Coolidge
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    You mean the democrat-staffed tiki-torch photo bomb that the North American Man-Boy Lincoln Project now takes responsibility for?

    https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-tiki-torch-photo-in-front-of-youngkin-tour-bus-revealed-to-be-democrat-stunt

     

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  4. DonG (CAGW is a hoax) Coolidge
    DonG (CAGW is a hoax)
    @DonG

    FYI, the common element in WI, PA, and MI is Catholics.    Peter can explain.

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  5. Headedwest Coolidge
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    BDB (View Comment):

    You mean the democrat-staffed tiki-torch photo bomb that the North American Man-Boy Lincoln Project now takes responsibility for?

    https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-tiki-torch-photo-in-front-of-youngkin-tour-bus-revealed-to-be-democrat-stunt

    The way that story was introduced in zero-hedge was:

    The anti-Trump, pedo-protecting Lincoln Project was forced to issue an emergency press release Friday afternoon after Democratic operatives they paid to impersonate tiki-torch wielding Trump supporters were doxxed, after they stood in front of Republican gubernatorial candidate Glenn Youngkin’s campaign bus.

    Much hilarity, including screenshots of suddenly protected accounts follows.

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  6. Nohaaj Coolidge
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    Headedwest (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    You mean the democrat-staffed tiki-torch photo bomb that the North American Man-Boy Lincoln Project now takes responsibility for?

    https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-tiki-torch-photo-in-front-of-youngkin-tour-bus-revealed-to-be-democrat-stunt

    The way that story was introduced in zero-hedge was:

    The anti-Trump, pedo-protecting Lincoln Project was forced to issue an emergency press release Friday afternoon after Democratic operatives they paid to impersonate tiki-torch wielding Trump supporters were doxxed, after they stood in front of Republican gubernatorial candidate Glenn Youngkin’s campaign bus.

    Much hilarity, including screenshots of suddenly protected accounts follows.

    One of the comments:

    Q- Why did the entire Lincoln Project rush to Walmart last week?

    A- They heard the boys pants were half off.

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  7. kedavis Member
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    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    Headedwest (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    You mean the democrat-staffed tiki-torch photo bomb that the North American Man-Boy Lincoln Project now takes responsibility for?

    https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-tiki-torch-photo-in-front-of-youngkin-tour-bus-revealed-to-be-democrat-stunt

    The way that story was introduced in zero-hedge was:

    The anti-Trump, pedo-protecting Lincoln Project was forced to issue an emergency press release Friday afternoon after Democratic operatives they paid to impersonate tiki-torch wielding Trump supporters were doxxed, after they stood in front of Republican gubernatorial candidate Glenn Youngkin’s campaign bus.

    Much hilarity, including screenshots of suddenly protected accounts follows.

    One of the comments:

    Q- Why did the entire Lincoln Project rush to Walmart last week?

    A- They heard the boys pants were half off.

    I’m so old, I remember that joke when it was about Michael Jackson.

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  8. Nohaaj Coolidge
    Nohaaj
    @Nohaaj

    The “surgical removal” of DJT was done by fraudulent mail in votes and finished at 3:00 AM by demo fraudsters, not by Republicans voting all Republican except for Trump.  Let’s Go Brandon!

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  9. BDB Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    Headedwest (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    You mean the democrat-staffed tiki-torch photo bomb that the North American Man-Boy Lincoln Project now takes responsibility for?

    https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-tiki-torch-photo-in-front-of-youngkin-tour-bus-revealed-to-be-democrat-stunt

    The way that story was introduced in zero-hedge was:

    The anti-Trump, pedo-protecting Lincoln Project was forced to issue an emergency press release Friday afternoon after Democratic operatives they paid to impersonate tiki-torch wielding Trump supporters were doxxed, after they stood in front of Republican gubernatorial candidate Glenn Youngkin’s campaign bus.

    Much hilarity, including screenshots of suddenly protected accounts follows.

    One of the comments:

    Q- Why did the entire Lincoln Project rush to Walmart last week?

    A- They heard the boys pants were half off.

    I’m so old, I remember that joke when it was about Michael Jackson.

    Then you’ll remember McDonald’s MJ Burger.

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  10. kedavis Member
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    BDB (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    Headedwest (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    You mean the democrat-staffed tiki-torch photo bomb that the North American Man-Boy Lincoln Project now takes responsibility for?

    https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-tiki-torch-photo-in-front-of-youngkin-tour-bus-revealed-to-be-democrat-stunt

    The way that story was introduced in zero-hedge was:

    The anti-Trump, pedo-protecting Lincoln Project was forced to issue an emergency press release Friday afternoon after Democratic operatives they paid to impersonate tiki-torch wielding Trump supporters were doxxed, after they stood in front of Republican gubernatorial candidate Glenn Youngkin’s campaign bus.

    Much hilarity, including screenshots of suddenly protected accounts follows.

    One of the comments:

    Q- Why did the entire Lincoln Project rush to Walmart last week?

    A- They heard the boys pants were half off.

    I’m so old, I remember that joke when it was about Michael Jackson.

    Then you’ll remember McDonald’s MJ Burger.

    I don’t remember that, but I remember the McDLT which was actually good, and the one made partly from seaweed or something.  Taco Bell also had the “Border Light” stuff which seemed to be just gray goo stuck into a burrito or whatever.

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  11. DonG (CAGW is a hoax) Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    I don’t remember that, but I remember the McDLT which was actually good

    no it wasn’t good.  it was just a slice of tomato.   But the commercial with Jason Alexander is a hoot!

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  12. kedavis Member
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    DonG (CAGW is a hoax) (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    I don’t remember that, but I remember the McDLT which was actually good

    no it wasn’t good. it was just a slice of tomato. But the commercial with Jason Alexander is a hoot!

    What?  No, the McDLT was where they had the meat on one side in a styrofoam container, and the lettuce and tomato on the other side so they stayed cool and crisp until you put them together.

    The partially-seaweed burger was called the McLean.

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  13. Django Member
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Here’s the film James was talking about at the end of the podcast:

    I like this one too: 

    • #13
  14. Bishop Wash Member
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    @BishopWash

    In the Ricochet chatroom on Meta I’m sure there would be a large number of avatars of the greatest President of the Twenty-first Century. At least from the members.

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  15. Norm McDonald Bought The Farm Inactive
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    Let’s Go Carrot Top. Box Office Poison!!

    • #15
  16. JennaStocker Member
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    @JennaStocker

    Not to disparage any of the guests, but my favorite part of any episode is the host chat. This was no different. Very interesting to hear from Peter offering a peek into a world most of us only see (and I only imagine) from the outside of Tavern on the Green. James and Rob on the Metaverse stole the show.

    Rob, “how many meetings did it take to get to something that boring?!…I bet you there’s millions of dollars sunk into a name that dumb. Not to mention the man hours.”

    James, “Person hours, Rob. Person hours.”

    The Facebook wunderkinds did actually come up with the perfect symbol of Zuck – a vanilla, deadening, unblinking Metavatar of the man himself.

    The description of street footage from 1945 NYC was the gem worth waiting for. Thanks again for an interesting, engaging conversation irl, for now…

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  17. Bishop Wash Member
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    JennaStocker (View Comment):
    Rob, “how many meetings did it take to get to something that boring?!…I bet you there’s millions of dollars sunk into a name that dumb. Not to mention the man hours.”

    I’m so meta even this acrostic

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  18. kedavis Member
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    @kedavis

    Haven’t I read that Fox News is now being run by some left-leaning Murdoch offspring?

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  19. James Lileks Contributor
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    JennaStocker (View Comment):
    The description of street footage from 1945 NYC was the gem worth waiting for. 

    It will be the subject of ep 2 or 3 of the rebooted Ramble, coming soon to an Audio Network near you!

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  20. kedavis Member
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    @kedavis

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    JennaStocker (View Comment):
    The description of street footage from 1945 NYC was the gem worth waiting for.

    It will be the subject of ep 2 or 3 of the rebooted Ramble, coming soon to an Audio Network near you!

    Great news!  Will I need a new iTunes url?  Or will they start up again from the previous one?

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  21. RufusRJones Member
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    There is another category besides those favoring showhorse or workhorse.

    Unfortunately.

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  22. kedavis Member
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    @kedavis

    Drucker’s and Rob’s assumptions/predictions about both 2022 and 2024 completely fall apart if there were even just, what, 40,000 fraudulent votes in 5 swing states?  That’s a pretty big gamble.

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  23. kedavis Member
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    @kedavis

    How do those places like Nike arrange for their $100 virtual shoes to wear out so you have to buy them over and over?

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  24. RufusRJones Member
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    “Trump held back the dam.”

    That’s the way I see it. Particularly from the Austrian/financialization view of the country you have to be creative and forceful to stop the march to communism. We are too far gone for GOP boiler plate.

    Most people have a different vector to come up with the same conclusion.

    I just don’t see what is wrong with it.


    The “separate the baggage” part is exactly dead-on.

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  25. RufusRJones Member
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    @RufusRJones

    Of course Democrats are obsessed with collective action and thinking. 

    My brother-in-law is a textbook Dennis Prager Democrat that lives a conservative life. He is so damn dumb about that type of thing it’s unbelievable. PhD in an actual serious subject.

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  26. RufusRJones Member
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    JennaStocker (View Comment):
    my favorite part of any episode is the host chat. This was no different.

    I listen to all kinds of radio and podcasts and they are top-tier in this sense every single week. Unique value added every single time. 

    Just to be clear, you don’t have to do it that way to have a good podcast etc.

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  27. kedavis Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Of course Democrats are obsessed with collective action and thinking.

    My brother-in-law is a textbook Dennis Prager Democrat that lives a conservative life. He is so damn dumb about that type of thing it’s unbelievable. PhD in an actual serious subject.

    What’s a serious subject?  I would have no difficulty believing that a Ph.D in chemistry etc, could be completely bonkers when it comes to thinking about thinking.

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  28. RufusRJones Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Of course Democrats are obsessed with collective action and thinking.

    My brother-in-law is a textbook Dennis Prager Democrat that lives a conservative life. He is so damn dumb about that type of thing it’s unbelievable. PhD in an actual serious subject.

    What’s a serious subject? I would have no difficulty believing that a Ph.D in chemistry etc, could be completely bonkers when it comes to thinking about thinking.

    I should have said practical value, or output that society actually values and needs. He is a neuropsychologist. If you actually need one, there is no substitute. It’s really more of a straight medical field.

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  29. kedavis Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Of course Democrats are obsessed with collective action and thinking.

    My brother-in-law is a textbook Dennis Prager Democrat that lives a conservative life. He is so damn dumb about that type of thing it’s unbelievable. PhD in an actual serious subject.

    What’s a serious subject? I would have no difficulty believing that a Ph.D in chemistry etc, could be completely bonkers when it comes to thinking about thinking.

    I should have said practical value, or output that society actually values and needs. He is a neuropsychologist. If you actually need one, there is no substitute. It’s really more of a straight medical field.

    Okay but I don’t see any reason why a neuropsychologist would necessarily think straight about politics either.  He could believe “white privilege” is a serious problem as much as any gender studies graduate would.

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  30. RufusRJones Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Of course Democrats are obsessed with collective action and thinking.

    My brother-in-law is a textbook Dennis Prager Democrat that lives a conservative life. He is so damn dumb about that type of thing it’s unbelievable. PhD in an actual serious subject.

    What’s a serious subject? I would have no difficulty believing that a Ph.D in chemistry etc, could be completely bonkers when it comes to thinking about thinking.

    I should have said practical value, or output that society actually values and needs. He is a neuropsychologist. If you actually need one, there is no substitute. It’s really more of a straight medical field.

    Okay but I don’t see any reason why a neuropsychologist would necessarily think straight about politics either. He could believe “white privilege” is a serious problem as much as any gender studies graduate would.

    All I’m saying is he leads a conservative life, he has above average intelligence, and he can dig into policy details if he feels like it. 

    I think the only thing he believes in is just doing or not doing whatever it takes to make things move left all of the time. Collectivism is inherently good. The left is inherently good. Democrats are inherently good. 

    I may be conflating my thoughts with Dr. Bastiat’s the odds current hot thread

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