This week we conclude our series of interviews from the meeting of the American Conservation Coalition, a right-of-center environmental organization and talk to someone you may have never heard of but should – Rep. Bruce Westerman of Arkansas.

Westerman used to be the Majority Leader of the Arkansas House and moved up to Washington by winning Tom Cotton’s old district when he was elected to the Senate. A graduate of both Arkansas and Yale, he was an engineer and forester by for Mid-South Engineering Company and served as president of the Arkansas chapter of the American Society of Agricultural and Biological Engineering.

In the House he is the ranking member of the Natural Resources Committee and leads the GOP Caucus on environmental issues.

In a February Pew survey, Americans were asked to rank their priorities of 20 major issues for 2022 and climate change came in 14th. In the partisan divide the survey found only 11% of Republicans even thought it was a priority. (On the Democratic side it was 65%)

Former President Donald Trump still holds considerable sway within his party and he pulled the United States out of the Paris Accords and has repeatedly referred to global warming as a Chinese hoax designed to make US industry non-competitive.

This week we come to you from the meeting of the American Conservation Coalition, a right-of-center environmental organization and talk to New Hampshire Governor Chris Sununu.

Sununu is currently running for his fourth 2-year term as the Executive of the Granite State and we touch on a variety of issues roiling the news cycle: abortion, redistricting, inflation, the environment and, of course, Donald Trump’s continuing influence on the Republican Party.

Former Congressman Will Hurd has a plan: For the Republican Party; for preparing the United States to withstand a major cyber attack from a foreign adversary; and possibly for running for president in 2024. On this episode, Hurd discusses his new book, American Reboot; An Idealist’s Guide to Getting Big Things Done, and opens up about his service on Capitol Hill, his years as a clandestine officer in the Central Intelligence Agency that preceded his time in politics, and his political ambitions.


This week we split our time between the present situation in Europe and the future of domestic politics with Richard Grenell, a long time foreign policy advisor to Republican politicians.

First, Grenell offers a look inside his former ambassadorial portfolio of Germany and how Angela Merkel’s policies helped make the current crisis in Ukraine worse than it had it to be and, depending on the outcome of the 2022 midterms, what a Republican Congress can do under President Biden.

Rep. Dan Crenshaw represents the 2nd Congressional District (which includes northwest Houston) and also represents the next generation of Republican leadership.

As a member of SEAL Team 3, Crenshaw lost his right eye and damaged the left one due to an IED in Afghanistan in 2012. Lt. Commander Crenshaw (2 Bronze Stars – 1 with V – Purple Heart and Navy and Marine Corps Commendation with valor) was medically discharged from the Navy four years later and went on to get a Masters in Public Administration from Harvard.

He joined us from his home in Texas (with an occasional hammering courtesy of a contractor) to talk about his journey to Congress, Russian adventurism in Ukraine and the state of affairs in domestic politics.

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Unlike parliamentary systems, America doesn’t have a single, designated “Leader of the Opposition.” The closest thing we have today is Mitch McConnell, the current Minority Leader of the US Senate.

To understand the long shadow that the former president continues to cast, we go back to the people that put him in the White House in the first place. Is it something the voters saw in Donald Trump that they really liked – or is it something they saw in the other candidates (such as the darling of the establishment, Jeb Bush) that they simply disliked?

In 2018 Republican consultant Brad Todd teamed with the Washington Examiner’s Salena Zito to explain the Trump phenomena and to try to define the forces at work in The Great Revolt. The book has been out for years, but the lessons for 2024 are still relevant.

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In a decidedly different edition of our show we get to take a look at the state of our politics from the other dugout – from the pollster who took a leave of absence from Harvard to join the 2020 campaign of Joe Biden. John Della Volpe is the author of a new book entitled Fight: How Gen Z is Channeling Their Fear and Passion to Save America.

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Since 1974 when Ronald Reagan gave the first keynote address, the Republican Road to the White House has run through CPAC, the annual political conference run by the American Conservative Union. Since 2014 that organization has been run by Matt Schlapp.

Composite photo: Shutterstock and Axiom Strategies.

Fresh off the win for his client in the Virginia’s Governor race, Republican strategist and campaign manager Jeff Roe sits down with David Drucker to talk about turning the Commonwealth from +10 Biden to +2 Youngkin, and looks forward to the next two election cycles.

Robert O’Brien with VP Pence and President Trump (Photo: Trump White House/National Archives)

In four years, President Donald Trump went through four National Security Advisors. The last of these, Robert C. O’Brien, may have been the best fit.

On this edition, a wide ranging interview with Representative Devin Nunes (R – CA22), the ranking member on the House Intelligence Committee and its Chairman from 2015-19.

Among the topics discussed: The Steele Dossier and the current state of the Durham investigation, the politicization of the Intelligence Community and the Department of Justice, the readiness of our military and the aftermath of the January 6th riot at the Capitol.

Former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie is, in many ways, a more polished version of Donald Trump. Blunt and outspoken, he has never been shy about engaging in political pugilistics. In this interview he takes on Trump’s post-election behavior, the Biden Administration and his own future and how that intertwines with that of his party and his country.

This interview took place on September 23, 2021 as part of the Texas Tribune Festival and we thank them for allowing us to present it here as part of this series.


In January of 2016 National Review published a cover story titled “Against Trump,” a collection of short essays opposing the eventual nomination (and election) of Donald Trump as 45th President of the United States.

Rich Lowry, the editor of National Review, sat down with David Drucker to review the motivations behind that issue – and what they got right and what they got wrong – concerning what was to come in a Trump Administration.

This podcast is a companion to David Drucker’s book In Trump’s Shadow: The Battle for 2024 and the Future of the GOP and is now available wherever books are sold.

Jason Miller, Communications Director for Trump/Pence at the Trump National Golf Course in Bedminster, NJ in Nov. 2016 (Photo: a katz / Shutterstock)

Jason Miller is a longtime GOP operative. He witnessed Donald Trump’s rise to the White House, first as an opponent working for Sen. Ted Cruz (R – TEX) and then as the spokesman for his campaign after he won the nomination.

Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski of MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” moderate a town hall with Republican presidential candidate Donald J. Trump in Charleston, South Carolina on Feb. 17, 2016 (Photo: Mark Peterson/Redux / Redux for NBC News File)

Before there was Donald Trump the politician, there was Donald Trump the TV personality. Before there was Joe Scarborough the TV personality, there was Joe Scarborough the politician.

Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas is unapologetic about his interest in running for president in 2024. He has made multiple trips to Iowa and New Hampshire this year — and the year isn’t over.

In this episode, Cotton talks about his future, Trump’s impact on the future of the GOP, and where the two of them might differ (hint: they don’t agree on everything.)

U.S. Representative Liz Cheney speaking at an anti-abortion/anti-infanticide press conference outside the United States Capitol. (Shutterstock File Photo)

Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming began the Trump era a rising Republican star. She was elected to the House of Representatives in 2016, the same year Donald Trump was elected president, and quickly advanced in the GOP congressional leadership. It all came crashing down this year, when Cheney rejected Trump, very publicly, after he refused to concede defeat to President Joe Biden and claimed the 2020 election was stolen.

Mike Pompeo began the Trump era as an opponent of the future 45th president. But by the time Donald Trump exited the White House in January 2021, the former CIA director and former Secretary of State had emerged as perhaps his most trusted Cabinet official.

In this episode, Pompeo talks Afghanistan; discusses his experience in the Trump administration, sounds off on the former president’s impact on the Republican Party; and addresses the question of how Trump’s plans for a 2024 bid might impact his own presidential ambitions.