Seeking Cloture

Sometimes, people ask why we wait until Friday afternoons to publish the podcast. The last couple of weeks should answer that question for at least a while. We’re lucky to have a full contingent of quality guests this week to help us sort through all the outrage, er, news that has accumulated since last week’s show. First up, Ricochet’s own Bethany Mandel who has a few opinions on the Kavanaugh confirmation process. Then, one of our favs: the great Andy Ferguson, who’s been doing some reading and some thinking about all things Trump. Also, courtesy of Rob Long, an insiders view of the Yale grapevine. Suffice to say, Buffy and Biff are upset.

(H/t to Seth Mandel for the title of this week’s episode).

Music from this week’s show: Freddie Freeloader by Miles Davis

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  1. Arahant Member
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    Yeti takes requests. Who knew?

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  2. Petty Boozswha Inactive
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    I believe the “prone” comment was by Stokley Carmichael of SNCC.

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  3. kedavis Coolidge
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    Stokely, now there’s a name I haven’t heard since “Serial” starring Martin Mull and Tuesday Weld.

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  4. kedavis Coolidge
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    @peterrobinson is wrong again.  The 49 democrats don’t really believe Brett Kavanaugh is guilty.  They believe he’s a Republican/conservative.  And that’s all it took.  Remember, they announced they would vote against him, in some cases even before Trump had selected a name!

    The side show of allegations etc, was really just to give themselves some kind of cover or justification.

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  5. Blue Yeti Admin
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    @peterrobinson is wrong again. The 49 democrats don’t really believe Brett Kavanaugh is guilty. They believe he’s a Republican/conservative. And that’s all it took. Remember, they announced they would vote against him, in some cases even before Trump had selected a name!

    The side show of allegations etc, was really just to give themselves some kind of cover or justification.

    Hello from the same deep blue state Peter lives in. Reporting in from the front lines, let me tell you that they think he’s he’s guilty. They’re SURE of it.

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  6. Arahant Member
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    Reporting in from the front lines, let me tell you that they think he’s he’s guilty. They’re SURE of it.

    Of course, because it’s what they would have done.

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  7. kedavis Coolidge
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    @peterrobinson is wrong again. The 49 democrats don’t really believe Brett Kavanaugh is guilty. They believe he’s a Republican/conservative. And that’s all it took. Remember, they announced they would vote against him, in some cases even before Trump had selected a name!

    The side show of allegations etc, was really just to give themselves some kind of cover or justification.

    Hello from the same deep blue state Peter lives in. Reporting in from the front lines, let me tell you that they think he’s he’s guilty. They’re SURE of it.

    Some of them might believe it.  But they didn’t need that to vote against him.  Some might use assumption of guilt as a cover, but, As I wrote before, they announced they were going to vote against him before any of the allegations came up.  And some even announced they would vote against The Trump Nominee before he was even selected.

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  8. kedavis Coolidge
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    Reporting in from the front lines, let me tell you that they think he’s he’s guilty. They’re SURE of it.

    Of course, because it’s what they would have done.

    For sure, Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton did.

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  9. Samuel Block Support
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    Good podcast, guys.

    As far as the disagreement early on about young, college age males, I can recall my own anecdotal experience as a mad-super-woke twenty something all the way back in 2009 and add that I definitely felt guilty, even though I can’t recall having done anything that should have warranted it. And I moved to the right over the last two years in spite of the President (who I voted for).

    — I’d say for people interested in how to make inroads with millennials, I suspect there is a lot of room somewhere in there….

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  10. ToryWarWriter Coolidge
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    I think one of the problems for the Republican ‘class’ people is that they joined the party when it was the sure ticket to Power.  They controlled Congress and the Senate for so long, it made more sense to be there and not really care to much about ideology.  Trump has forced many to see the rubber hit the road.  They are now looking at it, and realizing they actually have to deliver.

    I believe Belushi became a congressman.

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  11. kedavis Coolidge
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    I’m surprised that Bethany Mandel’s description of the loathsome side of Trump giving him strength and courage to do important good things, didn’t trigger @jameslileks to bring up the split Good(Weak)/Evil(Strong) Kirk from Star Trek.

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  12. J Ro Member
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    Yes, hurrah for women’s liberation, which benefitted men.

    Before: Traditional all-male school locked and guarded entrance to its dorms to keep visitors, including women, out of dorms and everyone out of trouble.

    After: School forced by Supreme Court to admit women, who are now locked into co-ed dorms with men.

    But we destroyed all-male schools, so Yay!

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  13. Henry Racette Member
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    I thought Rob’s idea for a 10 part podcast mini series of hard-hitting investigative journalism into the Kavanaugh/Ford debacle was terrific. But, rather than waiting for membership to go up enough to fund it, how about going the crowd-sourcing route? A GoFundMe page for this project might work. Seriously. 

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  14. James Lileks Contributor
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    As long as kedavis (View Comment):

    I’m surprised that Bethany Mandel’s description of the loathsome side of Trump giving him strength and courage to do important good things, didn’t trigger @jameslileks to bring up the split Good(Weak)/Evil(Strong) Kirk from Star Trek.

    As long as we don’t get Janet Lester Kirk, I’m good.

    BTW I mispronounced the Brazilian president candidate’s name, and suspected so at the time, but it was a segue and I had my mind on Rob doing a Kramer entrance into my bit.

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  15. RufusRJones Member
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    “Max Boot is now a liberal Democrat”.

    I am so, so curious about these types. I think it has a lot to do with lifestyle and how they make their money.

    ***EDIT*** after they finished talking about it.

    The rest of that part was just delightful, they said what I just said, only more explicitly.

    Who wants to be ruled by Rick Wilson? Some do.

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  16. kedavis Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    “Max Boot is now a liberal Democrat”.

    I am so, so curious about these types. I think it has a lot to do with lifestyle and how they make their money.

    ***EDIT*** after they finished talking about it.

    The rest of that part was just delightful, they said what I just said, only more explicitly.

    Who wants to be ruled by Rick Wilson? Some do.

    Does that mean that @roblong has only begun his move to the left?

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  17. kedavis Coolidge
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    As long as kedavis (View Comment):

    I’m surprised that Bethany Mandel’s description of the loathsome side of Trump giving him strength and courage to do important good things, didn’t trigger @jameslileks to bring up the split Good(Weak)/Evil(Strong) Kirk from Star Trek.

    As long as we don’t get Janet Lester Kirk, I’m good.

     

    Some probably think that already explains Trump as much as anything else does.

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  18. Taras Coolidge
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    ToryWarWriter (View Comment):

    I think one of the problems for the Republican ‘class’ people is that they joined the party when it was the sure ticket to Power. They controlled Congress and the Senate for so long, it made more sense to be there and not really care to much about ideology. Trump has forced many to see the rubber hit the road. They are now looking at it, and realizing they actually have to deliver.

    I believe Belushi became a congressman.

     Are you referring to Senator John “Bluto” Blutarsky? 

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  19. Mister Dog Coolidge
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    I swear it looks like James, Peter, and Rob are getting some kind of contact high from being so close to Cocaine Mitch.

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  20. Arahant Member
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    Mister Dog (View Comment):

    I swear it looks like James, Peter, and Rob are getting some kind of contact high from being so close to Cocaine Mitch.

    Now that you mention it, Rob and James, definitely. Peter, not so much.

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  21. Charlotte Member
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    Um. Pretty sure the spot was for Lending Club. The graphic and link at the bottom of the post are for Lending Tree.

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  22. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Charlotte (View Comment):

    Um. Pretty sure the spot was for Lending Club. The graphic and link at the bottom of the post are for Lending Tree.

    Fixed! Thanks!

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  23. dukenaltum Inactive
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    Just a short post to mentioned that I stopped reading the website some time ago because of professional/personal responsibilities and reduced my subscription to podcast only but upgraded recently even though I realize I will still not read or post to the website. 

     

    The fact that a Conservative Website and podcast aggregator needs to behave like bloody NPR by begging for subscribers annoys the daylights out of me.   People who listen but don’t support this site are parasites and clowns.

    Keep up the good work. 

     

    Cheers. 

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  24. EHerring Coolidge
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    If I woke up one morning and ricochet was no longer there, I would become like the left, screaming in demonic fashion, chanting, and predicting women will die.  

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  25. RufusRJones Member
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    Steve Schmidt gets pwnd

    Money. Lifestyle. They actually love centralized power. That is my operating theory on these types.

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  26. RufusRJones Member
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    Except for the fact that they can’t see fit to have just one token podcast even once a month about Austrian economics they do a very good job of curating podcasts. Fork it over: $2.50. 

    I’ve never heard anything of it’s type that is as good as the flagship podcast. 

    Problematic Women is excellent.

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  27. George Townsend Inactive
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    @peterrobinson is wrong again. The 49 democrats don’t really believe Brett Kavanaugh is guilty. They believe he’s a Republican/conservative. And that’s all it took. Remember, they announced they would vote against him, in some cases even before Trump had selected a name!

    The side show of allegations etc, was really just to give themselves some kind of cover or justification.

    Hello from the same deep blue state Peter lives in. Reporting in from the front lines, let me tell you that they think he’s he’s guilty. They’re SURE of it.

    I was always inclined to believe they didn’t believe this also, because believing is it is not very bright, considering there is no evidence. I want to believe that our elected official are bright. But I guess not.

    Thanks, Yeti!

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  28. Charlotte Member
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    Pert Buttocks would also have made a good title.

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  29. Taras Coolidge
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    George Townsend (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    @peterrobinson is wrong again. The 49 democrats don’t really believe Brett Kavanaugh is guilty. They believe he’s a Republican/conservative. And that’s all it took. Remember, they announced they would vote against him, in some cases even before Trump had selected a name!

    The side show of allegations etc, was really just to give themselves some kind of cover or justification.

    Hello from the same deep blue state Peter lives in. Reporting in from the front lines, let me tell you that they think he’s he’s guilty. They’re SURE of it.

    I was always inclined to believe they didn’t believe this also, because believing is it is not very bright, considering there is no evidence. I want to believe that our elected official are bright. But I guess not.

    Thanks, Yeti!

     One should distinguish between “upstream progressives“ and “downstream progressives“. 

     The upstream progressives are the knowledgeable elite, who know that the stories they promulgate (e.g., George W. Bush has an IQ of 95) are false or even ridiculous. 

    By contrast, the downstream progressives, the rank-and-file, are ill-informed, credulous, and easily led by the nose.  They actually believe the stories the upstream progressives tell them.

     Students, actors, and celebrities will usually be downstream progressives. 

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  30. RufusRJones Member
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    Taras (View Comment):

    George Townsend (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    @peterrobinson is wrong again. The 49 democrats don’t really believe Brett Kavanaugh is guilty. They believe he’s a Republican/conservative. And that’s all it took. Remember, they announced they would vote against him, in some cases even before Trump had selected a name!

    The side show of allegations etc, was really just to give themselves some kind of cover or justification.

    Hello from the same deep blue state Peter lives in. Reporting in from the front lines, let me tell you that they think he’s he’s guilty. They’re SURE of it.

    I was always inclined to believe they didn’t believe this also, because believing is it is not very bright, considering there is no evidence. I want to believe that our elected official are bright. But I guess not.

    Thanks, Yeti!

    One should distinguish between “upstream progressives“ and “downstream progressives“.

    The upstream progressives are the knowledgeable elite, who know that the stories they promulgate (e.g., George W. Bush has an IQ of 95) are false or even ridiculous.

    By contrast, the downstream progressives, the rank-and-file, are ill-informed, credulous, and easily led by the nose. They actually believe the stories the upstream progressives tell them.

    Students, actors, and celebrities will usually be downstream progressives.

    I can’t believe I’ve never heard that explained so cleanly before. Excellent. 

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