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1. Member
   I Walton

   @IWalton

   6:29 AM EDT ⋅ Apr 24, 2022

   I think they had a good return on their investment,  have probably doubled their investment and will continue to earn abundantly, unless they’ve pissed off conservatives, who tend to be folks with children, but they’ll forgive if Disney doesn’t go to war over it.   More evidence about who should be our next President. 

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   kedavis

   @kedavis

   12:38 PM EDT ⋅ Apr 24, 2022

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   So it amused me greatly that this afternoon I listened to a pop-culture show which had more legal knowledge on the Disney situation than anyone on the podcast, including two constitutional legal scholars.

   The situation with the original deal with Disney when they were granted this exemption was they also had to build Walts city of tomorrow. A fully functional municipality with a mayor and city council and an active populace. Disney never did this. This is one of the outs the Florida Republican party noted when they passed the bill. Hence Disney is in breach of contract and the state is right to revoke the status.

   Disney is the one who is in breach of the original contract.

   It was funny listen to John Yoo ponder that anyone read the contract. Well one of the panelists on Midnights Edge the pop culture podcast had read the contract. All 60 pages of it and could this discuss without pulling it out half baked, like this show, though I fully understand it was a last minute changeover and people wanted to be topical even though neither side knew what they were talking about.

   The additional situation is that because they were a municipality, Disney could issue municipal bonds tax free, which gave them massive advantage over every other park in the State. Including Universal Studios, Busch Gardens or Seaworld. By taking this advantage away from Disney they are leveling the playing field. It doesnt get more conservative than that.

   Finally the reason Democrats have a hard time dealing with this bill, is because they had tried to pass a similar bill a few years ago, and the Republicans just copied and pasted.

   I keep waiting for someone to bring it up, yet no one (except you) has. It’s low hanging fruit. I’m old enough to remember when Disney World was built, and the plan for a population to actually live there. Since that never happened, the original deal never made sense. At least to me.

   As the show points out at the beginning this was all put together at the last minute so I feel neither Rob or John actually had anytime to find out whats actually happening with a little research, and so everyone was trying to sound like an expert but failing.

   For example no one mentioned that Disney has a year to reapply for their special status and then justify to Florida how they are willing to commit to the original terms.

    

   Sounds like a low bar. Gee, we’ll require a leftist mega corporation to actually construct a commune?

   They don’t want to construct a leftist commune which will visibly fail.

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   ToryWarWriter

   @ToryWarWriter

   4:21 AM EDT ⋅ Apr 25, 2022

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   So it amused me greatly that this afternoon I listened to a pop-culture show which had more legal knowledge on the Disney situation than anyone on the podcast, including two constitutional legal scholars.

   The situation with the original deal with Disney when they were granted this exemption was they also had to build Walts city of tomorrow. A fully functional municipality with a mayor and city council and an active populace. Disney never did this. This is one of the outs the Florida Republican party noted when they passed the bill. Hence Disney is in breach of contract and the state is right to revoke the status.

   Disney is the one who is in breach of the original contract.

   It was funny listen to John Yoo ponder that anyone read the contract. Well one of the panelists on Midnights Edge the pop culture podcast had read the contract. All 60 pages of it and could this discuss without pulling it out half baked, like this show, though I fully understand it was a last minute changeover and people wanted to be topical even though neither side knew what they were talking about.

   The additional situation is that because they were a municipality, Disney could issue municipal bonds tax free, which gave them massive advantage over every other park in the State. Including Universal Studios, Busch Gardens or Seaworld. By taking this advantage away from Disney they are leveling the playing field. It doesnt get more conservative than that.

   Finally the reason Democrats have a hard time dealing with this bill, is because they had tried to pass a similar bill a few years ago, and the Republicans just copied and pasted.

   I keep waiting for someone to bring it up, yet no one (except you) has. It’s low hanging fruit. I’m old enough to remember when Disney World was built, and the plan for a population to actually live there. Since that never happened, the original deal never made sense. At least to me.

   As the show points out at the beginning this was all put together at the last minute so I feel neither Rob or John actually had anytime to find out whats actually happening with a little research, and so everyone was trying to sound like an expert but failing.

   For example no one mentioned that Disney has a year to reapply for their special status and then justify to Florida how they are willing to commit to the original terms.

    

   Sounds like a low bar. Gee, we’ll require a leftist mega corporation to actually construct a commune?

   They got the charter when Walt was still alive.  It was hardly a leftist mega corporation then.  

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   Taras

   @Taras

   5:12 AM EDT ⋅ Apr 25, 2022

   It was actually Walt Disney himself who wanted to build the “Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow”, but the project was abandoned after Walt’s death.

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   kedavis

   @kedavis

   12:13 PM EDT ⋅ Apr 25, 2022

   ToryWarWriter (View Comment):

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   So it amused me greatly that this afternoon I listened to a pop-culture show which had more legal knowledge on the Disney situation than anyone on the podcast, including two constitutional legal scholars.

   The situation with the original deal with Disney when they were granted this exemption was they also had to build Walts city of tomorrow. A fully functional municipality with a mayor and city council and an active populace. Disney never did this. This is one of the outs the Florida Republican party noted when they passed the bill. Hence Disney is in breach of contract and the state is right to revoke the status.

   Disney is the one who is in breach of the original contract.

   It was funny listen to John Yoo ponder that anyone read the contract. Well one of the panelists on Midnights Edge the pop culture podcast had read the contract. All 60 pages of it and could this discuss without pulling it out half baked, like this show, though I fully understand it was a last minute changeover and people wanted to be topical even though neither side knew what they were talking about.

   The additional situation is that because they were a municipality, Disney could issue municipal bonds tax free, which gave them massive advantage over every other park in the State. Including Universal Studios, Busch Gardens or Seaworld. By taking this advantage away from Disney they are leveling the playing field. It doesnt get more conservative than that.

   Finally the reason Democrats have a hard time dealing with this bill, is because they had tried to pass a similar bill a few years ago, and the Republicans just copied and pasted.

   I keep waiting for someone to bring it up, yet no one (except you) has. It’s low hanging fruit. I’m old enough to remember when Disney World was built, and the plan for a population to actually live there. Since that never happened, the original deal never made sense. At least to me.

   As the show points out at the beginning this was all put together at the last minute so I feel neither Rob or John actually had anytime to find out whats actually happening with a little research, and so everyone was trying to sound like an expert but failing.

   For example no one mentioned that Disney has a year to reapply for their special status and then justify to Florida how they are willing to commit to the original terms.

    

   Sounds like a low bar. Gee, we’ll require a leftist mega corporation to actually construct a commune?

   They got the charter when Walt was still alive. It was hardly a leftist mega corporation then.

   I think the point might have been, why WOULDN’T the current leftist mega corporation, want to do it NOW?

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   BDB

   @BDB

   2:32 PM EDT ⋅ Apr 25, 2022

   ToryWarWriter (View Comment):

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   So it amused me greatly that this afternoon I listened to a pop-culture show which had more legal knowledge on the Disney situation than anyone on the podcast, including two constitutional legal scholars.

   The situation with the original deal with Disney when they were granted this exemption was they also had to build Walts city of tomorrow. A fully functional municipality with a mayor and city council and an active populace. Disney never did this. This is one of the outs the Florida Republican party noted when they passed the bill. Hence Disney is in breach of contract and the state is right to revoke the status.

   Disney is the one who is in breach of the original contract.

   It was funny listen to John Yoo ponder that anyone read the contract. Well one of the panelists on Midnights Edge the pop culture podcast had read the contract. All 60 pages of it and could this discuss without pulling it out half baked, like this show, though I fully understand it was a last minute changeover and people wanted to be topical even though neither side knew what they were talking about.

   The additional situation is that because they were a municipality, Disney could issue municipal bonds tax free, which gave them massive advantage over every other park in the State. Including Universal Studios, Busch Gardens or Seaworld. By taking this advantage away from Disney they are leveling the playing field. It doesnt get more conservative than that.

   Finally the reason Democrats have a hard time dealing with this bill, is because they had tried to pass a similar bill a few years ago, and the Republicans just copied and pasted.

   I keep waiting for someone to bring it up, yet no one (except you) has. It’s low hanging fruit. I’m old enough to remember when Disney World was built, and the plan for a population to actually live there. Since that never happened, the original deal never made sense. At least to me.

   As the show points out at the beginning this was all put together at the last minute so I feel neither Rob or John actually had anytime to find out whats actually happening with a little research, and so everyone was trying to sound like an expert but failing.

   For example no one mentioned that Disney has a year to reapply for their special status and then justify to Florida how they are willing to commit to the original terms.

    

   Sounds like a low bar. Gee, we’ll require a leftist mega corporation to actually construct a commune?

   They got the charter when Walt was still alive. It was hardly a leftist mega corporation then.

   How is that connected to my response to *what you said*?