Heightened Risibility

We’re erring on the side of positive expectations again. This time with Bjørn Lomborg. His new book is Best Things First. There he sets his sights on cost effective, acheivable goals that will lift the world’s poorest out of miserable conditions and inch us along in the direction towards those sustainable goals we hear about so much. We ask the minuscule billions of dollars question: Are the world’s most prosperous ready for such tangible win-win?

James, Rob and Steve aren’t quite done with Barbenheimer; they discuss Ohio’s pro-life prospects; and muse on words that make them feel sophisticated.

(And to whoever kidnapped our co-host, could you please return him?)

 

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  1. kedavis Coolidge
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    Clever title!

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  2. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    Good podcast.   The Hollywood strikes are an interesting topic.  The battle involves the ideas of A.I. writing screenplays, people selling their likenesses and voices, and the entire business model of streaming.  The industry is on the precipice of the biggest change since the end of the studio model era.

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  3. Mr. Michael Garrett Lincoln
    Mr. Michael Garrett
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  4. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
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    I wrote an essay that explains Malthusianism and hard leftism.

    If the left was motivated by a compassion that based itself on reality, they would support some version of capitalism in order to enrich the poor and support the nuclear family because it is essential to all human flourishing. I assume that most of the Ricochetti are well-researched enough to know the overwhelming evidence in support of both some version of free markets and a strong family. Logically, people who are devoted to the poor and the downtrodden would want to focus on what has been proven to help the poor and the downtrodden.

    In the last few generations, many Asian countries have gone from African levels of poverty to near universal literacy and enough rice and vegetables to feed even beggars. Africa itself is becoming wealthier as the Asian countries have done. Literally, billions of human beings have left absolute poverty and it has almost everything to do with free markets.

    The left doesn’t care because capitalism is an icky word. Their compassion doesn’t relate to poor people in reality.

    Conclusion

    I could go on but I think I’ve made my point. Among the hard leftists is a hatred of what is good and beautiful is more of a motivation than compassion. We aren’t confronting nice but misguided people who just need to listen to some Thomas Sowell lectures. In our age, we are more comfortable with data points and meta-analysis and graphs. Those are all great if we are having a reasonable argument. But this isn’t about a disagreement of policy. We are confronting a spiritual nihilism and it’s time we act like it.

    The left hates capitalism and cheap energy precisely because it leads to human flourishing. Not because they are mistaken about exonomics.

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  5. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Hang on.  Lomborg’s first point is how to keep perhaps millions of children from dying each year.

    But the Left doesn’t want there to be MORE PEOPLE.

     

    The point about education doesn’t fit either, since the Left doesn’t want children or adults to be educated to understand what their government is doing.  They only want children to know that Heather Has Two Mommies.

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  6. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    I’m not seeing Rob’s claimed Wall Street Journal link in the Show Notes.

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  7. Eeyore Member
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    @Eeyore

    Ricochet 5.0 – Wooeee!

    Back when 1.0 was ditched, it was convincing that the old bones just couldn’t handle the traffic.

    But from then on, and I suspect with 5.0, despite real and significant under-the-hood improvements, each new version has just been glamor for Font Nerds.

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  8. Taras Coolidge
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    @Taras

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    I wrote an essay that explains Malthusianism and hard leftism.

    If the left was motivated by a compassion that based itself on reality, they would support some version of capitalism in order to enrich the poor and support the nuclear family because it is essential to all human flourishing. I assume that most of the Ricochetti are well-researched enough to know the overwhelming evidence in support of both some version of free markets and a strong family. Logically, people who are devoted to the poor and the downtrodden would want to focus on what has been proven to help the poor and the downtrodden.

    In the last few generations, many Asian countries have gone from African levels of poverty to near universal literacy and enough rice and vegetables to feed even beggars. Africa itself is becoming wealthier as the Asian countries have done. Literally, billions of human beings have left absolute poverty and it has almost everything to do with free markets.

    The left doesn’t care because capitalism is an icky word. Their compassion doesn’t relate to poor people in reality.

    Conclusion

    I could go on but I think I’ve made my point. Among the hard leftists is a hatred of what is good and beautiful is more of a motivation than compassion. We aren’t confronting nice but misguided people who just need to listen to some Thomas Sowell lectures. In our age, we are more comfortable with data points and meta-analysis and graphs. Those are all great if we are having a reasonable argument. But this isn’t about a disagreement of policy. We are confronting a spiritual nihilism and it’s time we act like it.

    The left hates capitalism and cheap energy precisely because it leads to human flourishing. Not because they are mistaken about exonomics.

    People’s advocacy of various political positions often comfortably relies on the fact that what they claim to desire will never actually come to pass.

    For example, pacifists know that they will be defended by force, even if they claim to morally disapprove of defense by force.   Their pose merely permits them to respond to that defense with total ingratitude.

    Defunding the police and closing the prisons are two variants of this pose.

    Libertarians are also often guilty of this, demanding open borders (politically possible) coupled with an end of the welfare state (politically impossible).

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  9. RufusRJones Member
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    Taras (View Comment):
    Libertarians are also often guilty of this, demanding open borders (politically possible) coupled with an end of the welfare state (politically impossible).

    Public goods only. It has an actual definition. Look it up.

    You can’t get rid of redistribution unless you get rid of the inflationist Fed. 

    You can’t get rid of the income tax or central bank discretion unless you figure out how to never have another war, which we can’t. Trading with the Chinese mafia was the biggest mistake we ever made. 

    Conservatives and libertarians are never going to make much headway until you get rid of inflation, even the supposed “good” 2%. I mean, artificial intelligence can actually pass the bar. This is deflationary and it’s never going to stop and they are going to print into that. Then the debt to GDP will keep going up excessively. Then then we get really terrible inflation with financial repression or we get war.

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  10. Charlotte Member
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    The left hates capitalism and cheap energy precisely because it leads to human flourishing. Not because they are mistaken about e[c]onomics.

    Just wanted to enjoy this bit again.

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  11. Scott Wilmot Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Hang on. Lomborg’s first point is how to keep perhaps millions of children from dying each year.

    The easiest way is to outlaw abortion, as some countries do. I just can’t fathom why people allow abortion.

    That Rob sort of shrugs his shoulders at abortion and uses an arbitrary trimester look at it politically (sure let’s kill them early so it doesn’t get really messy later) in order to allow abortion is a monstrous view of many conservatives that I find horrendous.

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  12. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    Scott Wilmot (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Hang on. Lomborg’s first point is how to keep perhaps millions of children from dying each year.

    The easiest way is to outlaw abortion, as some countries do. I just can’t fathom why people allow abortion.

    That Rob sort of shrugs his shoulders at abortion and uses an arbitrary trimester look at it politically (sure let’s kill them early so it doesn’t get really messy later) in order to allow abortion is a monstrous view of many conservatives that I find horrendous.

    It seems that abortion was largely illegal before 1973.  After 50 years it may take some time to move the dial back again.

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  13. Taras Coolidge
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    @Taras

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Scott Wilmot (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Hang on. Lomborg’s first point is how to keep perhaps millions of children from dying each year.

    The easiest way is to outlaw abortion, as some countries do. I just can’t fathom why people allow abortion.

    That Rob sort of shrugs his shoulders at abortion and uses an arbitrary trimester look at it politically (sure let’s kill them early so it doesn’t get really messy later) in order to allow abortion is a monstrous view of many conservatives that I find horrendous.

    It seems that abortion was largely illegal before 1973. After 50 years it may take some time to move the dial back again.

    A.  A conservative politician might say, is your purpose to reduce the number of abortions, or to pat yourself on the back for your purity?  

    If the only choices are “legalize everything” or “legalize nothing”, the vast majority will — reluctantly — select “legalize everything”.

    B.  The organism that exists after nine months of gestation is unquestionably a child.   But the organism that existed at the beginning of that period is unquestionably not a child, as the term is normally understood.

    C.  Involuntary servitude is illegal, even if it is for a laudable purpose.

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  14. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Scott Wilmot (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Hang on. Lomborg’s first point is how to keep perhaps millions of children from dying each year.

    The easiest way is to outlaw abortion, as some countries do. I just can’t fathom why people allow abortion.

    That Rob sort of shrugs his shoulders at abortion and uses an arbitrary trimester look at it politically (sure let’s kill them early so it doesn’t get really messy later) in order to allow abortion is a monstrous view of many conservatives that I find horrendous.

    Ok. You find it horrendous. Find. The vast majority of people don’t find early abortion horrendous and will vote for it. Even about half of Republicans. How are you going to deal with that?

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  15. Henry Castaigne Member
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    @HenryCastaigne

    Scott Wilmot (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Hang on. Lomborg’s first point is how to keep perhaps millions of children from dying each year.

    The easiest way is to outlaw abortion, as some countries do. I just can’t fathom why people allow abortion.

    That Rob sort of shrugs his shoulders at abortion and uses an arbitrary trimester look at it politically (sure let’s kill them early so it doesn’t get really messy later) in order to allow abortion is a monstrous view of many conservatives that I find horrendous.

    Ok. You find it horrendous. Find. The vast majority of people don’t find early abortion horrendous and will vote for it. Even about half of Republicans. How are you going to deal with that? Whatever you think of the majority opinion it is still the majority.

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  16. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    Taras (View Comment):
    Involuntary servitude is illegal, even if it is for a laudable purpose.

    Very few people who are pregnant got that way involuntarily.  Even if they were using birth control that “Failed,” that falls under “assumption of risk.”

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  17. Taras Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    Involuntary servitude is illegal, even if it is for a laudable purpose.

    Very few people who are pregnant got that way involuntarily. Even if they were using birth control that “Failed,” that falls under “assumption of risk.”

    Under the law, you are not normally responsible for outcomes you made “reasonable efforts” to avoid.

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  18. kedavis Coolidge
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    Taras (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    Involuntary servitude is illegal, even if it is for a laudable purpose.

    Very few people who are pregnant got that way involuntarily. Even if they were using birth control that “Failed,” that falls under “assumption of risk.”

    Under the law, you are not normally responsible for outcomes you made “reasonable efforts” to avoid.

    I suspect that might often refer more to degree than actual “fact.”  And the fact is that sex has possible consequences even if you take “reasonable precautions.”  It’s not like someone is just walking down the street or sitting on their sofa  at home trying to be safe, and then BAM! suddenly they’re pregnant.  Some degree of “risky behavior” is generally required.

    In terms of other law, if you go into a liquor store to rob it and don’t have a real gun, or it doesn’t have real bullets in it, or you just put your finger in your jacket pocket and PRETEND to have a gun, you can’t claim to have taken “reasonable precautions” if the clerk has a heart attack from fear, and dies.

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  19. Taras Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    Involuntary servitude is illegal, even if it is for a laudable purpose.

    Very few people who are pregnant got that way involuntarily. Even if they were using birth control that “Failed,” that falls under “assumption of risk.”

    Under the law, you are not normally responsible for outcomes you made “reasonable efforts” to avoid.

    I suspect that might often refer more to degree than actual “fact.” And the fact is that sex has possible consequences even if you take “reasonable precautions.” It’s not like someone is just walking down the street or sitting on their sofa at home trying to be safe, and then BAM! suddenly they’re pregnant. Some degree of “risky behavior” is generally required.

    In terms of other law, if you go into a liquor store to rob it and don’t have a real gun, or it doesn’t have real bullets in it, or you just put your finger in your jacket pocket and PRETEND to have a gun, you can’t claim to have taken “reasonable precautions” if the clerk has a heart attack from fear, and dies.

    Every time you engage in the “risky behavior” of driving a car, there is an unavoidable chance that you will kill or injure someone.   However, to be charged with a crime, you also have to have been operating the car in a dangerous manner.

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  20. RufusRJones Member
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    Scott Wilmot (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Hang on. Lomborg’s first point is how to keep perhaps millions of children from dying each year.

    The easiest way is to outlaw abortion, as some countries do. I just can’t fathom why people allow abortion.

    That Rob sort of shrugs his shoulders at abortion and uses an arbitrary trimester look at it politically (sure let’s kill them early so it doesn’t get really messy later) in order to allow abortion is a monstrous view of many conservatives that I find horrendous.

    What level of decent prenatal care can the government force?

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  21. Scott Wilmot Member
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Scott Wilmot (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Hang on. Lomborg’s first point is how to keep perhaps millions of children from dying each year.

    The easiest way is to outlaw abortion, as some countries do. I just can’t fathom why people allow abortion.

    That Rob sort of shrugs his shoulders at abortion and uses an arbitrary trimester look at it politically (sure let’s kill them early so it doesn’t get really messy later) in order to allow abortion is a monstrous view of many conservatives that I find horrendous.

    Ok. You find it horrendous. Find. The vast majority of people don’t find early abortion horrendous and will vote for it. Even about half of Republicans. How are you going to deal with that? Whatever you think of the majority opinion it is still the majority.

    As Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen said:

    Moral principles do not depend on a majority vote. Wrong is wrong, even if everybody is wrong. Right is right, even if nobody is right.

     

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  22. Scott Wilmot Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Scott Wilmot (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Hang on. Lomborg’s first point is how to keep perhaps millions of children from dying each year.

    The easiest way is to outlaw abortion, as some countries do. I just can’t fathom why people allow abortion.

    That Rob sort of shrugs his shoulders at abortion and uses an arbitrary trimester look at it politically (sure let’s kill them early so it doesn’t get really messy later) in order to allow abortion is a monstrous view of many conservatives that I find horrendous.

    What level of decent prenatal care can the government force?

    Sorry – I haven’t got a clue what you are asking.

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  23. Scott Wilmot Member
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    @ScottWilmot

    You boys need to expand your universe on your “climate change” experts. You’ve recycled Bjorn Lomborg so often that at the end of the podcast he muttered the phrase “fix climate change” a couple of times. Why not get a distinguished geologist like Dr. Ian Plimer on – someone who can talk about the geologic record and how climate has always changed. That we worry about CO2 as a greenhouse gas at a concentration of ~400ppm is ludicrous. No one can stop the climate from changing. We don’t have a climate crisis, we have a corruption crisis.

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  24. RufusRJones Member
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    Scott Wilmot (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Scott Wilmot (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Hang on. Lomborg’s first point is how to keep perhaps millions of children from dying each year.

    The easiest way is to outlaw abortion, as some countries do. I just can’t fathom why people allow abortion.

    That Rob sort of shrugs his shoulders at abortion and uses an arbitrary trimester look at it politically (sure let’s kill them early so it doesn’t get really messy later) in order to allow abortion is a monstrous view of many conservatives that I find horrendous.

    What level of decent prenatal care can the government force?

    Sorry – I haven’t got a clue what you are asking.

    There are so many dumb, anxious and angry people in this situation, and the government can’t improve it. You can’t force people to like the kid or take care of it even if they’re going to give it up right away and it’s a proven bad thing. This is just too complicated for simple government force to fix it.

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  25. RufusRJones Member
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    Just to be clear, I’ve gone round and round with people on the right that even think the Plan B pill is bad. 

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  26. RufusRJones Member
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    Climate change is the Universal Communist Bludgeoning Tool. I have no idea what to do about it.

    On weekends, I frequently torture myself by listening to KCBS out of San Francisco. They have those guys so freaked out about climate change, you can’t even get your head around it unless you hear it in person. Every single problem we have is due to climate change. They do the hard sell every day on that channel.

    Then they babble about de-growth. We have inflationism, a system that relies on constant credit increase otherwise known as constant debt increase. The debt-to- whatever-you-want-to-call-it has to grow constantly otherwise it collapses. Real geniuses. You can’t de-growth anything unless you start communism the hard way.

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  27. Charlotte Member
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    Dynamic insertion

    😂😂😂

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  28. TomJedrz Member
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    Taras (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    Involuntary servitude is illegal, even if it is for a laudable purpose.

    Very few people who are pregnant got that way involuntarily. Even if they were using birth control that “Failed,” that falls under “assumption of risk.”

    Under the law, you are not normally responsible for outcomes you made “reasonable efforts” to avoid.

    I suspect that might often refer more to degree than actual “fact.” And the fact is that sex has possible consequences even if you take “reasonable precautions.” It’s not like someone is just walking down the street or sitting on their sofa at home trying to be safe, and then BAM! suddenly they’re pregnant. Some degree of “risky behavior” is generally required.

    In terms of other law, if you go into a liquor store to rob it and don’t have a real gun, or it doesn’t have real bullets in it, or you just put your finger in your jacket pocket and PRETEND to have a gun, you can’t claim to have taken “reasonable precautions” if the clerk has a heart attack from fear, and dies.

    Every time you engage in the “risky behavior” of driving a car, there is an unavoidable chance that you will kill or injure someone. However, to be charged with a crime, you also have to have been operating the car in a dangerous manner.

    Sure, but once the accident happens you are legally and morally obliged to deal with it.  You can’t finish off the injured person, even if it is clear that they will have a terrible life after the accident. You can’t leave the scene or neglect to call the authorities. Those things are a crime, and they are a far closer analogy here. 

     

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  29. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    You can’t get rid of redistribution unless you get rid of the inflationist Fed.

    would there be redistribution from a deflationist Fed?   Just trying to figure out what you mean by “redistribution”.

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  30. kedavis Coolidge
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    TomJedrz (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    Involuntary servitude is illegal, even if it is for a laudable purpose.

    Very few people who are pregnant got that way involuntarily. Even if they were using birth control that “Failed,” that falls under “assumption of risk.”

    Under the law, you are not normally responsible for outcomes you made “reasonable efforts” to avoid.

    I suspect that might often refer more to degree than actual “fact.” And the fact is that sex has possible consequences even if you take “reasonable precautions.” It’s not like someone is just walking down the street or sitting on their sofa at home trying to be safe, and then BAM! suddenly they’re pregnant. Some degree of “risky behavior” is generally required.

    In terms of other law, if you go into a liquor store to rob it and don’t have a real gun, or it doesn’t have real bullets in it, or you just put your finger in your jacket pocket and PRETEND to have a gun, you can’t claim to have taken “reasonable precautions” if the clerk has a heart attack from fear, and dies.

    Every time you engage in the “risky behavior” of driving a car, there is an unavoidable chance that you will kill or injure someone. However, to be charged with a crime, you also have to have been operating the car in a dangerous manner.

    Sure, but once the accident happens you are legally and morally obliged to deal with it. You can’t finish off the injured person, even if it is clear that they will have a terrible life after the accident. You can’t leave the scene or neglect to call the authorities. Those things are a crime, and they are a far closer analogy here.

    That’s a good start.  My point would be that it was a bad analogy to start with.  The original/designed/intended/whatever purpose of a car is not to run around injuring or killing people, from which it must be constantly restrained.  But the original/designed/intended/whatever purpose of sex IS reproduction.

    I might go with something like, if you get in the car intending to drive to Phoenix – or maybe just around the block and then back home – but end up in Tucson, you’re not allowed to destroy Tucson because you intended to go to Phoenix, or perhaps just back home.

    Or to put it another way, you can make no mistakes, but still “lose.”

     

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