Civility and Humility

After several weeks of different combos for different reasons, The Big Three® are reunited and bring a power hitting show with them. First up, we talk southern cooking (Rob is hosting from Oxford, Mississippi, site of this year’s Southern Foodways Symposium — and please, it’s a serious symposium — not “an excuse to eat fried chicken…”). Then, the hosts debate impeachment and the White House strategy for defeating it. We shift gears and welcome Daniel Krauthammer on the occasion of the paperback debut of The Point of It All, the book he edited for his late father in the months before Charles passed away. Then, the great Victor Davis Hanson (partially great because his podcast The Classicist is available on the Ricochet Audio Network and partially great because his best selling book, The Case For Trump is the definitive resource in these troubled times). The segment is a how-to guide on defending the President in the sure to be turbulent next few months. Finally, what is the best Halloween candy? Our hosts weigh in (heh) on this vitally important topic. Leave your picks in the comments, please.

Note: we did not get to the Long Poll in the show this week, but we did post a new one. Please take it.

Music from this week’s show: I Want Candy – The Strangeloves.

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  1. Lois Lane Coolidge
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    Goddess of Discord (View Comment):
    In response to Rob’s response on what food is unique to the South, the correct answer is boiled peanuts, a Southern Delicacy!

    Amen to that one, sister!  I have always loved stopping by a country roadside and getting a big cup of them.  It makes me feel “at home.”

    I also thought it was funny when the “stereotypical” foods were mentioned like grits and okra as unfair game.  Truth is, they may be stereotypical, but I still eat grits multiple times a week because I am from Georgia, even though I don’t still live there.

    I was accepted to graduate school at UGA, but the drive to Athens was just too far even though UGA is definitely a prettier campus–and higher ranked school–than Georgia State.  One has to take into account practical considerations like where a husband is working, where a kid’s high school is, when going back in one’s thirties.

    Anyway, it is true that I sometimes found the updates on “campus” shootings–which were really just shootings or holdups or muggings or whatever on the streets in downtown Atlanta–worthy of occasional pause, but I never had any problems personally.  I also carried granola bars for the homeless.  They leave you alone after a while when they know all you’re going to give them is food, no money.  And amazingly–this is a true story–one homeless guy yelled at me one afternoon because I produced a granola bar from my backpack instead of a piece of fried chicken.  (I am not making that up.)   He was begging to order, you see.

    Despite his belligerence, I actually took that dude to a restaurant and bought him food, and the girl behind the cash register reacted strangely.  She was like, “Why?”  I mumbled something like, “Jesus?”  She rolled her eyes and said something else I can’t remember, but it was along the lines of “You’re not helping him or me.”

    I never bought another homeless guy chicken.  I still passed out granola bars.

    It was all part of the education.

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  2. rdowhower Member
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    VDH is the best.  And he’s probably forgotten more than Jonah or anyone else at the Bulwark know about anything.  

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  3. RufusRJones Member
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    rdowhower (View Comment):
    VDH is the best.

    I’ve listen to it three times now.

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  4. Jdetente Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    But is the Pearson’s Nut Roll better than Payday? I can’t go along with that.

    Eating a Payday feels like punishment. To be fair though, Pearson’s Nut Roll appears on a blog called “Revolting Snacks of America”. I think the fair conclusion is to condemn both!

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  5. Lois Lane Coolidge
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    Jdetente (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    But is the Pearson’s Nut Roll better than Payday? I can’t go along with that.

    Eating a Payday feels like punishment. To be fair though, Pearson’s Nut Roll appears on a blog called “Revolting Snacks of America”. I think the fair conclusion is to condemn both!

    Paydays are my favorite candy bar!!!!  

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  6. Jdetente Member
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    Lois Lane (View Comment):

    Jdetente (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    But is the Pearson’s Nut Roll better than Payday? I can’t go along with that.

    Eating a Payday feels like punishment. To be fair though, Pearson’s Nut Roll appears on a blog called “Revolting Snacks of America”. I think the fair conclusion is to condemn both!

    Paydays are my favorite candy bar!!!!

    Fair enough but for me a Payday always seemed like an actual payday (after taxes). A candy bar without chocolate is missing half of what it needs to be truly great.

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  7. kedavis Coolidge
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    Jdetente (View Comment):

    Lois Lane (View Comment):

    Jdetente (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    But is the Pearson’s Nut Roll better than Payday? I can’t go along with that.

    Eating a Payday feels like punishment. To be fair though, Pearson’s Nut Roll appears on a blog called “Revolting Snacks of America”. I think the fair conclusion is to condemn both!

    Paydays are my favorite candy bar!!!!

    Fair enough but for me a Payday always seemed like an actual payday (after taxes). A candy bar without chocolate is missing half of what it needs to be truly great.

    I love chocolate too, but there are different things for different times and moods.  When I want a Payday, I’m after caramel/nougat/peanuts, not chocolate.  And the Pearson’s Nut Rolls didn’t have chocolate either.  At least not the “regular” ones.  What bothers me about the Pearson’s is that they have a much smaller “nougat core” than Payday.   Which also means less space for peanuts!  And the ones I’ve gotten were much tougher and hard to eat.

    When I do want chocolate and peanuts, I’ll get Snickers or something, not go carrying protest signs in the street demanding that Payday add chocolate.

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  8. The Cloaked Gaijin Member
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    …Trump seems to have behaved, inasmuch as there are no leaks about bringing gal pals in the side door.

    Today on dailymail.co.uk:

    “JFK … had steamy affairs with actresses Audrey Hepburn, Gene Tierney and Angie Dickinson, who called romps with president ‘the most exciting seven minutes of my life … Perhaps his most notable mistress was Marilyn Monroe…  Decades after his assassination, new revelations continue to surface about his lovers who include actresses Anita Ekberg, Gene Tierney, and Marlene Dietrich, and White House intern Mimi Alford, as well as two White House secretaries.  Kennedy’s other affairs included British-born actress Jean Simmons who said that he ‘practically broke down’ her hotel room door to demand sex with her. …  Lee Remick who had a fling with him when she was only 22. …  Kennedy’s most scandalous affair is believed to have been with Judith Campbell Exner because she was also involved with mafia boss Sam Giancana.”

    Well, that’s one way to keep Democrats busy and distracted, I guess.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7614667/JFKs-long-list-secret-lovers-including-Audrey-Hepburn-revealed-new-book.html

     

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  9. Charlotte Member
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    This is probably the candy @roblong was referring to. Looks delicious.

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  10. StevenBleiberg Inactive
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    I love listening to this podcast every week, but can I just make a minor complaint? When James makes a really clever segue into an ad, as he often does, Peter and Rob invariably step all over it with their reaction (“Oh, amazing!”), preventing James from actually starting in on the ad. It kind of ruins the segue. And after all this time, are you guys really that amazed that he can come up with clever segues that you still need to comment on it every time? Just let it proceed, so we can all appreciate it quietly! It’s like the other players on the Chicago Bulls stopping the action in a game in 1993 so they can stand around and say “Whoa! Did you see what Michael Jordan just did?!” Frankly, I prefer the schtick in which Rob helps set up the ad by claiming that there is absolutely no way that you can find a comfortable bed or a good toothbrush or whatever the product about to be advertised is. He does it in such a confidently oblivious way.

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  11. Taras Coolidge
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    The Cloaked Gaijin (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    …Trump seems to have behaved, inasmuch as there are no leaks about bringing gal pals in the side door.

    Today on dailymail.co.uk:

    “JFK … had steamy affairs with actresses Audrey Hepburn, Gene Tierney and Angie Dickinson, who called romps with president ‘the most exciting seven minutes of my life … Perhaps his most notable mistress was Marilyn Monroe… Decades after his assassination, new revelations continue to surface about his lovers who include actresses Anita Ekberg, Gene Tierney, and Marlene Dietrich, and White House intern Mimi Alford, as well as two White House secretaries. Kennedy’s other affairs included British-born actress Jean Simmons who said that he ‘practically broke down’ her hotel room door to demand sex with her. … Lee Remick who had a fling with him when she was only 22. … Kennedy’s most scandalous affair is believed to have been with Judith Campbell Exner because she was also involved with mafia boss Sam Giancana.”

    Well, that’s one way to keep Democrats busy and distracted, I guess.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7614667/JFKs-long-list-secret-lovers-including-Audrey-Hepburn-revealed-new-book.html

     

    @kedavis — “I love chocolate too, but there are different things for different times and moods.”

    No doubt that’s exactly how JFK felt about women.

    I imagine Audrey Hepburn was a palate-cleanser …

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  12. kedavis Coolidge
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    Taras (View Comment):

    The Cloaked Gaijin (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    …Trump seems to have behaved, inasmuch as there are no leaks about bringing gal pals in the side door.

    Today on dailymail.co.uk:

    “JFK … had steamy affairs with actresses Audrey Hepburn, Gene Tierney and Angie Dickinson, who called romps with president ‘the most exciting seven minutes of my life … Perhaps his most notable mistress was Marilyn Monroe… Decades after his assassination, new revelations continue to surface about his lovers who include actresses Anita Ekberg, Gene Tierney, and Marlene Dietrich, and White House intern Mimi Alford, as well as two White House secretaries. Kennedy’s other affairs included British-born actress Jean Simmons who said that he ‘practically broke down’ her hotel room door to demand sex with her. … Lee Remick who had a fling with him when she was only 22. … Kennedy’s most scandalous affair is believed to have been with Judith Campbell Exner because she was also involved with mafia boss Sam Giancana.”

    Well, that’s one way to keep Democrats busy and distracted, I guess.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7614667/JFKs-long-list-secret-lovers-including-Audrey-Hepburn-revealed-new-book.html

     

    @kedavis — “I love chocolate too, but there are different things for different times and moods.”

    No doubt that’s exactly how JFK felt about women.

    I imagine Audrey Hepburn was a palate-cleanser …

    She cleaned his what, now?

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  13. milkchaser Member
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    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    crook, embezzler, and fraud

    I was not aware that Trump was convicted of those crimes. What were the dates that he committed them and was convicted of them? Or were you making that up?

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  14. kedavis Coolidge
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    milkchaser (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    crook, embezzler, and fraud

    I was not aware that Trump was convicted of those crimes. What were the dates that he committed them and was convicted of them? Or were you making that up?

    Oh come on, next you’ll be expecting Democrats to follow standards too!

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  15. Petty Boozswha Inactive
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    milkchaser (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    crook, embezzler, and fraud

    I was not aware that Trump was convicted of those crimes. What were the dates that he committed them and was convicted of them? Or were you making that up?

    Trump has bragged about some of it in the books he had written under his name. Other sources are the pre-packaged bankruptcy filings [something I think should be illegal] or copious documentation by reporters like Wayne Barrett.

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  16. LibertyDefender Member
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    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):

    milkchaser (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    crook, embezzler, and fraud

    I was not aware that Trump was convicted of those crimes. What were the dates that he committed them and was convicted of them? Or were you making that up?

    Trump has bragged about some of it in the books he had written under his name. Other sources are the pre-packaged bankruptcy filings [something I think should be illegal] or copious documentation by reporters like Wayne Barrett.

    Something you think should be illegal.  Wow.

    If, as you suggest, there’s such clear documentation of Trump’s commission of crimes, why didn’t you quote any of it?

    For that matter, I wonder why no prosecutors did so.

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  17. RufusRJones Member
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    LibertyDefender (View Comment):

    If, as you suggest, there’s such clear documentation of Trump’s commission of crimes, why didn’t you quote any of it?

    For that matter, I wonder why no prosecutors did so.

    Think of all of the journalistic and law enforcement resources thrown at this. Furthermore, the IRS has been giving Trump a never ending colonoscopy for two decades. 

     

    Think of all of the Republicans with law degrees etc. that fell for the Russia nonsense. Trump knows he’s an International criminal so he runs for POTUS. Sure. 

    I wish I could see a chart of everything they have talked about since the election and it’s resolution. What’s the worst one? The Charity deal?

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  18. Arahant Member
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    Democrats project what they would do or what they are doing.

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