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One of these days, we’re going to do a politics free GLoP, but today is not that day. Our sympathies to those listeners who disagree with the GLoP-sters on the President. That said, they do acknowledge in this episode that they are aware of your comments and of your feelings and that they struggle with it (really!). The good news is that the political talk is relatively brief and you can fast-forward through it. They also cover the new Tom Hanks movie, Greyhound (it’s good!), bears, some thoughts about the great Dolly Parton, and why a certain movie about D-Day never got made.
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Yeti, that is the issue really. People on Ricochet know and love these guys and are having a hard time with their head being that far up their backsides. It is similar to what Rob was saying about Dolly and Leftist. The people on here have a hard time getting their head around the guys point of view. It sort of finding out your best friends are actually alien lizard creatures in cabal to destroy the world.
I’m concerned that a significant number of people will just think “change is good” without noticing or caring that they’re talking about JOE BIDEN!
Everything? His marriages? A hell of a lot of his business ventures? His inability to come even close in the popular vote? His ridiculous initial comments about Covid? His stupid remarks to countless foreign leaders?
Oh and you can always count on Trump to supply more evidence of his idiocy. He gives a good Covid presser, sticks to the script, is going great … and then he gets asked about Ghislaine Maxwell and he says he knew her well and wishes her all the best. For heaven’s sake! That’s exactly what an idiot would say! No doubt you will all rush to his defense. He may have done some very good things but he is an idiot!
@blueyeti — “you don’t want to listen to people who criticize [Trump].”
That’s an evasion. Rather, if the criticism is inane or preposterous, as in this episode, I want somebody there with different views to point it out.
I mean, I would love to think that JPod and Jonah and Rob pore over the Ricochet comments, but I strongly suspect otherwise.
For example, I’ve compared them to avowed Abolitionists who spend 1864 tearing down Lincoln: how do such people rationalize what they’re doing? I would seriously like to know.
According to Time magazine, Trump owns or controls 500 businesses in 26 countries. Let that sink in before you think about how the liberal media have covered his business career since he entered politics. Of course all you will hear are negative anecdotes: duh, the media are doing their best to defeat him. And you fell for it, didn’t you?
Remember, the liberal media called it a stupid remark, when Ronald Reagan called the Soviet Union an evil empire, though in retrospect it looks like a major turning point in the Cold War.
Trump’s “stupid remarks“ to NATO leaders brought about improved funding for the defense of Europe and the world. His “stupid remarks“ to the leaders of Canada and Mexico led to trade agreements more favorable to the United States.
Admittedly, Trump is very unpopular in every corner of the world where a weak and deferential United States was desired. Trump doesn’t do weak and deferential!
They said in this podcast that they read the comments. Closely.
Look folks, we hear you on the less politics more pop culture criticism. It’s a fair point and we will strive to do more of that. But comparing GLoP to the Sub-Standard seems a little disingenuous— only one of those guys (JVL) actually covers politics (and he writes for The Bulwark!).
But point heard and taken on politics and this show. We’ll try do keep it to a minimum.
I’ve not listened to the podcast yet, but I will say in the beginning, it was the non-politics discussion that made this podcast interesting. We all know how these guys feel about the current occupant of the WH. It gets tedious to hear it over and over again. I still listen for the snippets that aren’t political.
When you say JVL, I see JBL, and think “I know Bradshaw isn’t writing for the Bulwark”! (‘Restling reference in case you didn’t know)
Shhh! Don’t tell.
(@ejhill Suggestion for the next GLoP graphic here.)
The Sub(space)Beacon makes a concerted effort to not cover politics and has broken with that maybe twice over the last year. I didn’t see the Sub Beacon comparison made but I suppose it would be disingenuous to compare a pop culture podcast that covers pop culture with a pop culture podcast that doesn’t cover pop culture.
First, I know going in that all three don’t like Trump. I do. I still listen to the podcast, and I’m not really that bothered about it.
But I thought I’d talk a little about Jonah’s Alaska comments. He mentions his trip to Homer, and the Homer Spit. He mentions the Spit has the longest road jutting into the ocean in the world, which I didn’t know. I have driven the Spit for the heck of it, and have made, maybe 2-3 trips to both Homer and Seward (which are both on the Kenai Peninsula).
While most of my residency in Alaska has been in Fairbanks, I spent my first 6 Alaska years in Southeast at Juneau and Sitka. The only difference between the coastal towns in the Kenai Peninsula and Southeast is that the Peninsula is a part of the road system.
I’d say that the starkest difference in dress, in the summer at least, between interior Alaska and coastal Alaska is the rubber boots coastal Alaskans wear to keep their feet dry. It rains a lot there.
As for that podcast Jonah mentions on the disappearance of Hale Boggs and Nick Begich, I discovered it too, and listened to the first two episodes before I bailed.
I was a teenager in eastern New Mexico when the crash occurred, and I do remember it, though my following the story was limited to reading probably AP articles in the local newspaper.
I was a political junkie back then and I did know who Hale Boggs was, Majority Leader of the U.S. House, which at the time meant that he was slated to be Speaker when Carl Albert retired. Back then it was automatic that if you made Majority Whip, eventually you would step up to Leader and then Speaker during the 40 years the Dems held the house.
After the crash, Nick Begich did get re-elected to the house as a dead man, since it was too late to remove him from the ballot. After that a special election was held, and Don Young was elected. Today Young is still in the house, and is now the most senior member. It’s actually unusual for a Republican to outstay Democrats, who usually spend more time in office. He’s the first Republican Dean of the House in more than 80 years.
I LOL’ed at the second part of this.
And even in those few cases where Sub-podcast has delved into politics, it’s been brief and pretty non-strident.
It is pretty non-strident, considering JVL is one of the hosts. There was an instance within the last two months where the boys spent probably a minute debating even getting into a political discussion. I don’t remember the movie but they asked, are you sure we want to talk about this movie because we are going to have to get into politics and we don’t discuss politics on this show.
And let’s not forget that Trump won the popular vote, rather decisively, except for PRC (People’s Republic of California).
Clever! But GLoP has always done politics. Wasn’t an issue before late 2015.
But wasn’t it always not SUPPOSED TO do politics? I believe that’s what they said when it started. Because they all have other places to talk politics, and that’s also why it was named sounding like “pop culture.”
I think Dolly Parton is a great lady. I have been a fan of hers for may decades. Her Christmas album with the children is still one of my favorites. In addition to being a very talented songwriter and singer, she is just a neat person and epitomizes the average American which is demonstrably true by reviewing the diversity of any of the audiences that show up for her live performances. Her response at the Emmy s which was described in the podcast is exactly what you could have predicted that she would say.: “i don’t do politics, I do Music”. Thank you Dolly for being the person you are. Stay strong, I love you.
I did not see the Wallace interview. But in the podcast they talk about “the cognitive test”. However, there are probably about 20. Did Wallace specific which test? Why do the hosts assume they are talking about the same test Trump is talking about. it renders their whole discussion pointless unless they all know it was the same test (and maybe they do).
Also I am not clear why a bunch of federalists believe it is the presidents job to handle a pandemic. That is not how our govt is organized.
But they are right, sadly Trump is going to lose. BLM is very effective on middle of the road suburban women moving the herd to the left feeling bad. Emotions are powerful and that emotion is real and hurts Trump. And Trump has not shown leadership in crisis. Thats unforgivable in politics. It destroyed McCains campaign.
On Maxwell I think you are partially wrong. Trump is killing the story. Intentional or not this ends any stories about connections between Maxwell and himself. Wishing her the best…yeah…but hey innocent until proven.
Ditto
Honestly I have no problem with criticism of the president. I am not that big a fan myself and agree with a lot of what conservative detractors have to say.
I listen to and enjoy every episode of GLOP, however, I now find much of Jonah’s other content unlistenable. I have all of his books on my shelf, and have been a g-file subscriber since the beginning, but the constact smug attacks on Trump have become tiresome. At this point the distaste for Trump seems to have become an obsession and is now a significant portion of everything Jonah produces.
Again, I say this as someone who is not an enthusiastic Trump supporter and who probably agrees with Jonah on 99% of political policy positions. I am just reaching the point of “clever” Trump joke burnout
I’d assume with all the hate email he’s gotten from the hardest of hard-core Trump backers since 2015, and more contested appearances with Trump backers on talking head TV, Jonah may see podcasting as something or a break from that.
But he’s on-and-off doing three different ones per week right now (depending on his Dispatch Podcast appearances) and just to add a little more intellectual rigor to his Trump complaints, it would be nice if the most Trump-supportive person he appeared with and had to debate with intellectually was not John Podhoretz (and he’s far less playful when he runs into a guest who is somewhat Trump supportive, as with the Henry Olson interview last December, or Jonah’s recent appearance on Andrew Klavan’s show following his mocking of Kayleigh McEnany on “Fox News Sunday”)
To be fair to Jonah, I have not listened to any of his non-GLOP podcasts in proabably six months, but I would guess that the trend I noticed has not reversed. I recently unsubscribed from the g-file after at least a decade for the same reasons.
My problem is not substantive criticism of Trump, it is the constant snide comments and smug jokes that now infest all of his writing. When I have heard the same condescension in 15 straight episodes/newsletters I’m ready to move on. Jonah’s Trump criticism often only rises to the intellectual level of the “in this house we believe…” leftist yard signs.
I have not been traveling much lately (for obvious reasons), and the Commentary podcast is not one I’ve listened to lately.
However, “Abe Greenwald keeps JPod from becoming untethered” is 1) not my recollection of the show; and 2) Abe Greenwald is JPod’s employee.
Any disagreement he offers will be, shall we say, tactful to the nth degree — even before JPod interrupts him, stomps all over him, and doesn’t let him get a word in edgewise. (Unless the Commentary podcast has drastically changed since the last time I heard it!) When you play chess with the Emperor, you give him a challenge but make sure he wins.
On the other hand, I have been keeping up with the “flagship podcast”. When Rob lets go of a gaseous gibe at the President, I’ve rarely if ever heard more than a bit of hand-waving from Peter and James.
I am not acquainted with the internal financing of Ricochet.com, but I assume that when you’re playing in Cartman‘s sandbox, you don’t contradict Cartman.
Well, Peter is also a co-founder of Ricochet.
I really enjoyed Rob’s comments on Dolly and the media, and highly recommend that part even for those who might not want to listen to the whole show.
I knew there were technical issues in this episode when I realized it had been several minutes since I last heard JPod chime in
People hear what they want to hear. Because this (and your Cartman analogy) are demonstrably false. There have been many, many discussions –some quite heated– about Trump on the flagship podcast. Do we do it every time? No, of course not.
Is JPod becoming (or maybe has really always been) another decorum conservative, to where he feels so personally embarrassed by what he sees to be Trump behaving like an idiot, that President Biden’s lunacy – assuming he doesn’t just stay in the basement and others actually run things – is acceptable because at least Biden isn’t a Republican?
That seems like a recipe for disaster.
It was for me.
Yes, it’s always someone else’s fault.
Trump created this choice all by himself with a seemingly endless amount of unforced errors. Just once, I’d love to hear you guys call for him to take responsibility for his own behavior.