In this episode, we go deep on the current phase (the invisible primary) of the 2024 presidential primaries with Mike Murphy, who has worked on a number of presidential campaigns, as well as run 26 gubernatorial and US Senate races across the country. Murphy was a top strategist for John McCain, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, and Arnold Schwarzenegger. He’s a political analyst for NBC and MSNBC. He’s co-host of the critically acclaimed “Hacks on Tap” podcast. Mike is also co-director of the University of Southern California’s Center for the Political Future.

Articles we discuss in this episode:
Mike Murphy — “Iowa Is a Big Problem for Trump” —
Matthew Yglesias — “Ron DeSantis is struggling without the Covid issue” —

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