Intro to Eight Election Fraud (and Related) Claims

 

We may as well face facts: You haven’t actually read my 70 or so pages of detailed analysis of election fraud allegations, have you?  Well, you could always go here for the big post (or, for off-Ricochet, here) and read it all very slowly, followed by the other parts of the series.

But, again, we may as well face facts: You’re not really going to do that, are you?  So here’s something easier: A shorter, manageable introduction to just eight interesting claims. We’ll start with my three favorite claims that didn’t pan out; then we’ll cover four claims I think should be taken seriously (ok, three claims and one set of claims); and then we’ll look at one claim that raises more questions than answers for me.

This is only a short a sample.  There’s lots more fun in the original big post, and more details on the eight claims here!  (You can just go there and CTR+F for key words.)

The Best Ratio of Entertainment-to-Likelihood: the Hammer and Scorecard!

Some Trumpists, including our illustrious ex-President, ran with every supposed Kraken sighting like it was Mary Magdalene saying “I have seen the Lord” or John saying “These things stand written so that ye may know.”

I think my overall favorite fraud flop–say that five times fast!–is Hammer and Scorecard: a magnificent conspiracy in which the CIA not only has the supercomputer the Hammer, and not only has the election-stealing Scorecard software–but also hacks into the Dominion machines so the Deep State itself can steal the election!

And that’s not even the best part.

The miniature civil war on foreign territory in which the US military has a gunfight with the CIA and liberates one of their servers–yeah, that was the best part.

The best I can say for this theory, beyond its immense entertainment value, is that the evidence for it is somewhat better than I would have expected–among other details, at least one person I deem reliable, Lucretia on the Powerline podcast, seems to think the Hammer at least exists.

Better than I would have EXPECTED, I say–but not good enough! I can’t say it ain’t possible, but I’m pretty sure it ain’t true.

The Second-Best Ratio: the Philly Mob Boss!

A close second for me would be the one about the Philadelphia mafia boss who manufactured hundreds of thousands of fake Biden ballots for money.

As I understand it, the Buffalo Chronicle, which reported this, is not a real newspaper. Even if it were, more evidence would be needed.  Such sordid deeds would have put to shame the Michael Corleone of The Godfather II. For something like this, we need better evidence than what amounts to, “Some anonymous criminal told one of our guys that this happened and how amazing it all was!”

A+ for entertainment value, but not even a passing grade as far as evidence is concerned.

It Looked Good at First: 173,000 Votes without Registration in Michigan

I think my third-favorite election fraud allegation that didn’t pan out is the one about 173,000 votes without voter registrations in Michigan.

Much less entertaining than the last two, but what it lacks in entertainment value it made up for in actually looking good at first glance: MI really was reporting all these votes in precincts where no one was registered to vote! (Steven Crowder may have been the first to notice it, but others picked it up, and it was included in the Peter Navarro compilation.)

From what I can gather, MI reported these 173k votes in their Absent Voter Counting Boards–and no wonder that there were no registrations, because an AVCB is an artificial and temporary precinct for counting absentee ballots. They correspond to REAL precincts, which I daresay actually had the corresponding voter registration information.

Blame MI for a lack of clarity if you like, but this doesn’t look like mass election fraud to me.

The Best of the Best Claims: Mark Davis in Georgia

Now what allegations of election fraud or other shenanigans seem to actually hold water? Let’s start with the work of Mark Davis in Georgia, which I would classify as the best of the best.  (Also a claim getting a somewhat wider audience now that The Federalist is reporting on it.)  Here’s only part of Davis’ work.

In Georgia, if you move to a different county, you can’t vote in your old county. (There’s a grace period of 30 days.) Moving out of state: Same (or very similar) rules. And it turns out some people break that law. You can track them by comparing the GA voter records with the US federal Post Office records—because they filed Change of Address forms.

But what about people who were just moving to college for a bit, or moving temporarily to a military base? No problem; Davis just didn’t count them—not anyone who was moving to a college or military address.

Oh, but he counted alright!

About 15,000 who moved out of state voted absentee in their old county in violation of the law.  Another 35,000 who moved in-state did the same. (The Biden margin of victory in GA: about 12,000.)

It gets better. After people change counties within the state, they eventually get around to updating their address for their GA driver’s license, thus confirming their long-term move and confirming that they did indeed vote illegally. When I spoke with Davis in early May, he’d tracked about 10,500 of these confirmations (from the 35,000 group, not from the 15,000 group), with more coming in every day (at a then-average rate of 57 per day).

Evidence that Biden’s team stole the election? No. (I don’t know how many of these illegally cast votes were for Biden. Davis himself made a point of not checking!)

Evidence that we have serious election integrity issues in the USA? Yes. Evidence that the GA results should not have been certified?  So I am told–as specified in Georgia law when illegal votes exceed the margin of victory.

The Biggest Numbers, but Dang If It Ain’t Just Sociology!

Now for the Just Facts Daily claim. The idea is pretty simple: Some non-citizens manage to vote illegally in American elections, and you can get an estimate of how that affected the 2020 election using the number of non-citizens in a swing state in 2020 and sociological research on how non-citizens voted in past elections–how many voted, and by what margins they voted for Democrats.

The result: a Biden advantage of illegally cast votes more than double his margin of victory in both Arizona and Georgia!

The major weaknesses of this allegation:
–It’s nothing you could take to court. It’s not criminal forensics. It’s sociology.
–It’s based on past sociological research, of which there is probably not nearly enough and which is, in any case, fallible.

The major strengths of this allegation:
–It’s still a strong inductive argument: Given the premises, the conclusion is probable but not guaranteed.
–If the Biden margin of victory in AZ and GA was actually larger than the number of illegally cast votes in this category, then there would have to be something so dramatically wrong with the research that its estimates were more than double what they should have been! That is possible, but not very likely. (The only alternative I can see is that maybe there is some reason non-citizens were less likely to illegally vote Democrat over Republican in 2020 than in previous elections.)

This is not good evidence that an election should have been overturned—sociology, not forensics. But it is good evidence that America needs to clean up its elections, and that votes cast illegally could plausibly make a real difference in national elections.  It also gives some degree of support to the conclusion that votes illegally cast or counted actually did exceed the Biden margin of victory in at least two swing states. (Unlike the Davis research in GA, this argument supports the conclusion that illegally cast Biden votes exceeded the margin of victory in these two states.)

Something To Take Seriously, but I’d Like to See It Verified

One interesting set of claims comes from the work of Jesse Binnall in Nevada.  Some of his work uses the same methodology as Mark Davis of Georgia, which impresses me—and that affects about 19,000 Nevada votes. His other investigations affect about 43.5 thousand votes.

That said, I’ve never met Binnall, I know a bit less about him than about Davis, and I have not heard that the error-checks applied by Davis have been applied by Binnall.

Let’s Not Leave Out the Chain of Custody Issues

Here are a few:
–30,000 ballots with chain of custody issues in Michigan,
–about 110,000 ballots with chain of custody issues in Pennsylvania (including 60,000-70,000 that apparently disappeared),
–and about 28,900 ballots in Fulton County, Georgia, with chain of custody issues.

The PA 110,000 claim relies on the testimony of Gregory Strensrom. As I recall, he mentioned in his testimony that a Democratic co-observer saw (at least some of) the same things. Obviously, there should be follow-up with this other guy; but I don’t know if anyone ever did follow-up.

The Fulton Co. 28,900 are actually the result of official state investigations.

Similarly, the 30,000 number for Michigan is a low estimate of some ballots which an important report from the Michigan Senate Oversight Committee concluded were not fraud as such.  However, instead of announcing “No chain of custody issue here!” the report actually took the case as a reason to strongly emphasize the importance of keeping the chain of custody clean.

In other words, the report does not explicitly confirm that there is a chain of custody issue here, but it does not refute it and may be taken as implying a confirmation.

Would these ballots without a clean chain of custody involve some foul play? Some massive incompetence? Some of both? Hard to say for sure. But this is more evidence that the election was, in many places, a mess and that there were significant numbers of improperly managed ballots.

And What’s Up With All the Zombies?

Finally, a very serious allegation that, I deem, needs some real clarification.  I’ve come across some interesting claims about the dead voting:
–as many as 17,327 zombie votes in Michigan based on comparing obituaries to voting records,
–40,000 in Pennsylvania by the same method,
–9,500 in Michigan by comparing Social Security Death Index records to voting records,
–another 1,500 in Nevada,
–and more than 8,000 in Georgia.

On the one hand, comparing voting records to obituaries and SSDI seems like a reliable method to me.  You can explain away some of these zombie votes as typos or as genuine voters having the same names as their parents, but it does not seem likely that all 9,500-17,327 in Michigan were such cases.

But, on the other hand, here’s another method that looks pretty reliable: That important report in Michigan “Researched the claims of deceased individuals having a vote cast in their name by reviewing obituaries, various online databases, social media posts, as well as speaking with individuals who made the claims or were the subject of those claims.”  Now these guys didn’t check 9,500 or more possible cases, but they did check over 200, and they did not find a single confirmed zombie voter.

0 out of more than 200 is a small sample set, but a heckuva ratio.

Also, Mark Davis in Georgia isn’t worried much about zombie voters.

I honestly have no idea what to make of all this.  I suppose it’s possible someone somewhere is lying about something, but, absent dishonesty, I have no explanation for why these seemingly reliable methods would produce such dramatically different results in Michigan.

Do you know more?  I’d like to learn if you do.

Now What about That Line I Like from Bible?

That would be Ecclesiastes 12 in the KJV: “Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter.”

Unfortunately, it’s probably still too soon for that!  (I used the line myself to title an earlier essay on this topic–silly me!)

But here are some preliminary and very cautious conclusions:

There are several variations of “The election was stolen!” theories that are unproven at best.  However, election fraud and related issues should be taken very seriously.  There is actually some evidence that votes illegally cast or improperly counted measure up well to the Biden margin of victory in multiple swing states, even exceeding it in some cases.  We still need to learn a lot more about what happened in 2020, and we need to do better securing future elections.

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  1. Freeven Member
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    New numbers up at “Some Evidence that Illegal Actions Flipped Swing States (available off-Ricochet here in a Microsoft Word version).

    New information added (especially in the expanded Appendix, Parts 6 and 7) at the big post here (or, for off-Ricochet, here).

    Georgia remains well over 95%, with both Davis and Raffensperger’s people having demonstrated illegally cast or improperly counted votes multiple times the Biden margin of victory.

    New and big numbers in Arizona using what looks to me like a pretty reliable methodology–mostly involving a chain of custody issue prior to counting–but still under investigation. I’d estimate the odds for Arizona at about 90%, maybe as low as 80% on a bad day.

    I’d estimate the odds for Nevada at something like 80% now, maybe 70% on a bad day.

    And Stenstrom’s chain of custody allegations concerning USBs involving about 50,000 votes in Pennsylvania have survived a fact-check from FactCheck.org. In fact, the fact-check, once you filter out the straw-man fallacy, serves to confirm certain relevant facts from Stenstrom.

    I’d estimate the odds for Pennsylvania at 70%, maybe 80% on a good day or 60% on a bad day.

    Wisconsin, however, is looking better. I found some fact-checks of the 100k backdated ballot claim that look pretty good! (May not update till Thursday.)

    Does “looking better” mean more or less likelihood of fraud (or a reversal of results)?

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  2. Brian Watt Inactive
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    Re: Georgia – from that “rag” The Federalist which everyone knows peddles conspiracy theories:

    Enough Illegal Votes to Exceed Margin of Victory

    At the time of Trump’s election challenge, in alleging widespread violations of Section 21-2-218, the president relied on information from the Secretary of State’s Office and the U.S. Postal Service National Change of Address (NCOA) database, the latter of which identified more than 100,000 individuals who had indicated a move to a new county before October 1, 2020.

    Mark Davis, an expert on residency issues and voter data analytics, compared the NCOA data to official data from the Secretary of State’s Office and determined that approximately 35,000 of those Georgians cast a ballot in the county from which they had moved more than 30 days before the election. While a percentage of those voters may have moved only temporarily, perhaps because they were students or in the military—circumstances that do not affect a voter’s residency—with less than 12,000 votes separating Biden and Trump, this bucket of potentially illegal votes could have resulted in a state court tossing the election results.

    Nonetheless, because Georgia courts delayed Trump’s election-challenge case, setting a trial on the matter only after Congress’ certification of Biden as the victor, evidence of illegal voting was never heard.

     

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  3. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Good thing Mollie is long gone,  huh?

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  4. Dbroussa Coolidge
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Wisconsin, however, is looking better. I found some fact-checks of the 100k backdated ballot claim that look pretty good! (May not update till Thursday.)

    By better, do you mean that it is MORE likely that there was enough fraud to call the election in doubt, or LESS chance of fraud?

    I mean, to me, I’d love to see that there wasn’t any fraud and that the systems are working as designed, but I am not sanguine about that possibility.

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  5. Barfly Member
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    Dbroussa (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Wisconsin, however, is looking better. I found some fact-checks of the 100k backdated ballot claim that look pretty good! (May not update till Thursday.)

    By better, do you mean that it is MORE likely that there was enough fraud to call the election in doubt, or LESS chance of fraud?

    I mean, to me, I’d love to see that there wasn’t any fraud and that the systems are working as designed, but I am not sanguine about that possibility.

    Think what it would mean if the nation really had voted for the lefties. Better if there was massive fraud.

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  6. Saint Augustine Member
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    Freeven (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    New numbers up at “Some Evidence that Illegal Actions Flipped Swing States (available off-Ricochet here in a Microsoft Word version).

    New information added (especially in the expanded Appendix, Parts 6 and 7) at the big post here (or, for off-Ricochet, here).

    Georgia remains well over 95%, with both Davis and Raffensperger’s people having demonstrated illegally cast or improperly counted votes multiple times the Biden margin of victory.

    New and big numbers in Arizona using what looks to me like a pretty reliable methodology–mostly involving a chain of custody issue prior to counting–but still under investigation. I’d estimate the odds for Arizona at about 90%, maybe as low as 80% on a bad day.

    I’d estimate the odds for Nevada at something like 80% now, maybe 70% on a bad day.

    And Stenstrom’s chain of custody allegations concerning USBs involving about 50,000 votes in Pennsylvania have survived a fact-check from FactCheck.org. In fact, the fact-check, once you filter out the straw-man fallacy, serves to confirm certain relevant facts from Stenstrom.

    I’d estimate the odds for Pennsylvania at 70%, maybe 80% on a good day or 60% on a bad day.

    Wisconsin, however, is looking better. I found some fact-checks of the 100k backdated ballot claim that look pretty good! (May not update till Thursday.)

    Does “looking better” mean more or less likelihood of fraud (or a reversal of results)?

    Less likelihood of fraud.

    I’m not expecting any reversal of results.  (Learn and share the truth, and reform elections in the future–that’s what I’m aiming for.  I have doubts whether anything more is even Constitutional at this point–and graver doubts about its viability.)

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  7. Saint Augustine Member
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    Dbroussa (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Wisconsin, however, is looking better. I found some fact-checks of the 100k backdated ballot claim that look pretty good! (May not update till Thursday.)

    By better, do you mean that it is MORE likely that there was enough fraud to call the election in doubt, or LESS chance of fraud?

    I mean, to me, I’d love to see that there wasn’t any fraud and that the systems are working as designed, but I am not sanguine about that possibility.

    I can’t tell you that.  I can tell you the opposite.  In the “Some Evidence That” post:

    ne allegation conspicuously missing is the perhaps 171,000 or so votes of people who were improperly classified as “indefinitely confined” in Wisconsin; see “Keeping Track”. I have no clear idea whether to count these votes as merely properly cast under mismanagement by local government, or as something worse. It remains a significant issue in WI, with, apparently, about 54,000 voters circumventing an ID law as a result.

    This one is confirmed, and the systems weren’t working.  I’m just not sure it’s ok to count it as illegal actions that could have flipped swing states.

    With that issue being as it is, and with the fact-checks undermining the 100k backdated ballot claim, Wisconsin looks a lot less like an election whose results we can doubt.

    But we can doubt the election itself–it was a mess, and if there wasn’t a lot of fraud there sure were some botched processes that made ample room for it.

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  8. Saint Augustine Member
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    I can’t tell you that.  I can tell you the opposite.  In the “Some Evidence That” post:

    ne allegation conspicuously missing is the perhaps 171,000 or so votes of people who were improperly classified as “indefinitely confined” in Wisconsin; see “Keeping Track”. I have no clear idea whether to count these votes as merely properly cast under mismanagement by local government, or as something worse. It remains a significant issue in WI, with, apparently, about 54,000 voters circumventing an ID law as a result.

    This one is confirmed, and the systems weren’t working.  I’m just not sure it’s ok to count it as illegal actions that could have flipped swing states.

    Hmm.

    could classify them as votes illegally collected, mention that the categories are all messed up in 2020, and explain the comparisons to a chain of custody issue.  I.e., the point is not that we’re accusing anyone of fraud, or of trying to steal an election; the point is that the processes required by law were flouted, which enables fraud; the point is that rule of law is not in place, and that the first lines of defense against fraud are not in place.

    Gee.

    I’m losing those 100k backdated ballots because, thankfully, someone did follow up and they didn’t get confirmed.  (Numbers still to be updated; hopefully sometime this week; it’s not like this is the only work I have to do.)

    And I could gain 54k votes in WI, allowing it to join NV, GA, and AZ as states with problematic votes bigger than the Biden margin of victory even after factoring in that minus-10%-in-case-of-marginal-errors precaution, with PA on the edge!

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  9. Saint Augustine Member
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    could classify them as votes illegally collected, mention that the categories are all messed up in 2020, and explain the comparisons to a chain of custody issue.  I.e., the point is not that we’re accusing anyone of fraud, or of trying to steal an election; the point is that the processes required by law were flouted, which enables fraud; the point is that rule of law is not in place, and that the first lines of defense against fraud are not in place.

    Or not.  Even the government’s guidance here may not have been exactly illegal, according to an argument from McCarthy at NRO.  Still bad, but at this point I’m only tracking numbers that I’m pretty sure involve illegality.

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  10. Saint Augustine Member
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    Saint Augustine:

    Well, you could always go here for the big post (or, for off-Ricochet, here) . . . .

    A recent update just completed.  Had to disagree with a federal Judge, and a Trump appointee no less. (Judge Ludwig, by name.)

    Well, there’s a first time for everything.

    And this isn’t even the first time.

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  11. Saint Augustine Member
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    So, SA, given what you know at this moment, did Donald Trump win?

    No.

    “Where Do We Go From Here?” was about that.

    But if you’re asking whether Trump would have won if we could somehow strain out every illegality, my answer is:

    Probably. But there could be a lot of math.

    My off-the-top-of-my-head estimates:
    –Georgia: well over 95% odds that the state should not have gone to Biden. (Davis’ work is too good!)
    –Arizona: maybe about 80%, maybe 70% on a bad day.
    –Nevada: maybe about 70%, maybe 60% on a bad day.
    –Wisconsin, Pennsylvania: I’d have to review a lot of notes!
    –Michigan: Based on what little I can gather, it was probably ok!

    . . .

    New and big numbers in Arizona using what looks to me like a pretty reliable methodology–mostly involving a chain of custody issue prior to counting–but still under investigation. I’d estimate the odds for Arizona at about 90%, maybe as low as 80% on a bad day.

    . . .

    I’d have to drop Arizona back down to about 80%, maybe 70% on a bad day.  The recent allegations by Logan did not survive a round of fact-checking.

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  12. Saint Augustine Member
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    The recent allegations by Logan did not survive a round of fact-checking.

    Technically, Logan was correct. But it doesn’t seem to indicate illegality.

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  13. Brian Watt Inactive
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    The recent allegations by Logan did not survive a round of fact-checking.

    Technically, Logan was correct. But it doesn’t seem to indicate illegality.

    Might be prudent to wait for the final report to the AZ Senate. Also, the president of the AZ Senate, Karen Fann, has just subpoenaed Dominion Voting Systems and the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors to appear before the Senate on August 2nd. So, does she know something? What do they say about good lawyers? Never ask a question if you don’t know what the answer is. Is she ready to drop the hammer? Not likely she’d just invite them in to go on a fishing expedition, is it?

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  14. Saint Augustine Member
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    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    The recent allegations by Logan did not survive a round of fact-checking.

    Technically, Logan was correct. But it doesn’t seem to indicate illegality.

    Might be prudent to wait for the final report to the AZ Senate. Also, the president of the AZ Senate, Karen Fann, has just subpoenaed Dominion Voting Systems and the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors to appear before the Senate on August 2nd. So, does she know something? What do they say about good lawyers? Never ask a question if you don’t know what the answer is. Is she ready to drop the hammer? Not likely she’d just invite them in to go on a fishing expedition, is it?

    I don’t know. But I’m still waiting. 90 percent of my conclusions are tentative.

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  15. The Reticulator Member
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    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    What do they say about good lawyers? Never ask a question if you don’t know what the answer is.

    I’ve seen too many Republican lawyers ask stupid questions that give the witness an opportunity to make some weak excuse.  

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  16. Brian Watt Inactive
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    What do they say about good lawyers? Never ask a question if you don’t know what the answer is.

    I’ve seen too many Republican lawyers ask stupid questions that give the witness an opportunity to make some weak excuse.

    Hence the word “good” rather than “Republican”.

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  17. navyjag Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    What do they say about good lawyers? Never ask a question if you don’t know what the answer is.

    I’ve seen too many Republican lawyers ask stupid questions that give the witness an opportunity to make some weak excuse.

    You are talking about political types. Not litigators. Hope the investigators are litigators. 

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  18. The Reticulator Member
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    navyjag (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    What do they say about good lawyers? Never ask a question if you don’t know what the answer is.

    I’ve seen too many Republican lawyers ask stupid questions that give the witness an opportunity to make some weak excuse.

    You are talking about political types. Not litigators. Hope the investigators are litigators.

    I had in mind former prosecutors who are now in Congress and are incompetent at questioning witnesses in Congressional hearings. 

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  19. Saint Augustine Member
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    https://ricochet.com/1008055/1-who-fact-checks-the-fact-checkers

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  20. Saint Augustine Member
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    https://ricochet.com/1334554/two-years-later-how-to-think-about-election-cheating-in-2020/

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  21. Saint Augustine Member
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    Saint Augustine:

    The Biggest Numbers, but Dang If It Ain’t Just Sociology!

    Now for the Just Facts Daily claim. The idea is pretty simple: Some non-citizens manage to vote illegally in American elections, and you can get an estimate of how that affected the 2020 election using the number of non-citizens in a swing state in 2020 and sociological research on how non-citizens voted in past elections–how many voted, and by what margins they voted for Democrats.

    Biggest numbers–boy is that ever outdated.

    It’s bedtime here. Anyone reading this–feel free to ask me to mention some bigger numbers in the morning.

    Unfortunately, it’s probably still too soon for that!  (I used the line myself to title an earlier essay on this topic–silly me!)

    Silly indeed.  It’s still too early.

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  22. Saint Augustine Member
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    It’s bedtime here. Anyone reading this–feel free to ask me to mention some bigger numbers in the morning.

    It’s morning.

    Saint Augustine:

    Allegation: In Pennsylvania, a 2019 law—Act 77, here—extends mail-in voting far beyond what the state Constitution permits. The Pennsylvania Commonwealth Court (lower than the Pennsylvania Supreme Court) agrees. (A news story: Newsmax, January 2022.)

    . . .

    Ok, so how many are illegal? . . . Biden advantage: about 1.1 million illegal votes in this category.

    Saint Augustine:

    Allegation: Millions of illegally cast mail-in ballots.
    Source: A Rasmussen Reports survey (with the Heartland Institute) indicating that about 20% of mail-in voters broke one law or another. See here.

    . . .

    How many votes then? There were 155,507,476 votes in 2020, and about 43% of votes in 2020 were mail-in: 66,868,214. If 20% of those were illegally cast, then 13,373,642 were illegally cast. (I’m rounding down on some decimals.) Given my words of caution above, I’m inclined to give a low estimate of only 15%, and then round down from 10,030,232.1 to . . . 10 million votes illegally cast in 2020.

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