Elon Musk Knows How to Fight the Federal Government

 

Regulators despise him. Stakeholders love him. Fans of space exploration laud him. And innovators—well, it depends on whether you see electric cars as an inevitable part of the future, or an irresponsible and impractical development.

Very few people are indifferent to the workings of Elon Musk.

The main reason I want to celebrate Elon Musk is that he isn’t afraid of anyone, at least not in the federal government. He has repeatedly pushed back on, insulted, ignored, and refused to comply with federal regulators. Some people would say that he can afford to be incorrigible with his remarkable ventures, wealth, and success. On the other hand, there are many corporate CEOs who have caved into regulators who mainly seem to want to flex their muscles, exert stifling control, and make life difficult for risk-takers.

Musk has scuffled with the National Transportation Safety Board, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, the Federal Aviation Administration, the Security and Exchange Commission, the National Labor Relations Board, and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration. We could debate whether these agencies have had legitimate concerns, but Musk is making a critical point: you’d better have good reasons for slowing him down or he will stonewall, criticize or ignore requests.

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Elon Musk sets an outstanding example for corporate America to stand up to totalitarian forces and not to cave into the federal government. He is an iconoclast; his politics are all over the place. But he is very clear on his overall mission: to break boundaries and push ahead with every bit of his being—and to hell with the powers-that-be.

As we watch corporations supposedly stand up for the American people, we choke at their duplicity, ignorance, and disingenuousness. They don’t even care for their shareholders anymore; their priorities are virtue signaling, and as long as the Left dictates their agenda, they will foolishly comply. As businessmen, these CEOs aren’t obligated to defend America, but they are naïve enough to believe that if they walk in lockstep with the Left, they will be safe from criticism and retribution.

They have no clue that when the Left has used and abused them, those CEOs will be chewed up and spit out.

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Elon Musk is also sending a message to everyday Americans, those of us who live ordinary lives and might think we have no power to make a difference.

We are lying to ourselves.

Each of us has an obligation—to our country, our communities, our families, and friends—to protest the lies and misrepresentations of the Left. We must support each other in taking a stand, for speaking out and refusing to bow to the arrogant and deceitful Left. More and more we are realizing that the consequences we might face if we speak out are inconsequential, compared to what we have to lose as a people.

May we have just an ounce of the boldness that Elon Musk demonstrates every day, and speak out against tyranny and oppression.

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  1. Flicker Coolidge
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    Flicker (View Comment):
    I said I was taking the guy to court and I needed to prove that he was actually the one who received the money; how do I prove that someone else didn’t get hold of the check, forge the endorsement and deposit it in another account? The guy might deny receiving it and I couldn’t prove otherwise.

    Did you have a subpoena? — NO — Did they give you a business records affidavit? — NO — I don’t know other states but in Texas without the business records affidavit the copy you asked for is inadmissible hearsay.

    Well, I didn’t know that. I suppose. But this was just preliminary before going to the lawyer. But my real exasperation has to do with checks once being considered contracts, but not anymore. I’ve always been led to believe it was accepted in a court of law. What was paid was the consideration, and what was put in the memo space was the service or product. As it happened the guy quit his pilot’s job and took off for Alaska. And the cost of the lawyer would have been more than a full recovery of damages. I was just cheated a little. But his silent partner was majorly defrauded.

    Does anyone go to Alaska to get away from just ONE legal problem? Maybe, but it would have to be a BIG one.

    I think he left his silent partner with a quarter million in debt.

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    But my real exasperation has to do with checks once being considered contracts, but not anymore. I’ve always been led to believe it was accepted in a court of law. What was paid was the consideration, and what was put in the memo space was the service or product.

    A check was never a contract. It might have been evidence of a contract, but it is not the contract itself. A contract is an offer, acceptance, consideration, and mutual agreement to be bound by the agreement. There are different kinds, but that’s a good start. The check would only be evidence of the consideration. A contract need not be in writing in unless required by the statute of frauds or other statute such as the uniform commercial code (usually $500 or more).

    So to prove you had a contract you would typically need something in writing and an exchange of consideration. The check is not necessarily a contract itself, because a check rarely would have the terms of a contract on it, and even if it did refer to the terms, the terms would likely be too vague to be the entire contract.

    There was a contract, too.  For me, it wasn’t worth the fight.  But I feel sorry for his partner.

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  3. The Reticulator Member
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    Correct me if I am wrong, but there are currently no means for the government to take over your automobile if you are going somewhere they don’t think you should go.

    I’m glad you said means instead of plans.

    Are there plans?

    Why would control-freaks stop control-freaking?

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    I said I was taking the guy to court and I needed to prove that he was actually the one who received the money; how do I prove that someone else didn’t get hold of the check, forge the endorsement and deposit it in another account? The guy might deny receiving it and I couldn’t prove otherwise.

    Did you have a subpoena? Did they give you a business records affidavit? I don’t know other states but in Texas without the business records affidavit the copy you asked for is inadmissible hearsay.

    I don’t think he would need a subpoena for his own record.

    He mentioned needing it to prove something, and I inferred that meant he needed it in court.

    Yes, but a cancelled check at/through his bank would be his own record, he wouldn’t need a subpoena to get that.  If he wanted to get the other guy’s bank account record to show that the check was deposited, that would probably require a court order.  But having the signature and account number etc on the check covers that.

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  5. Spin Inactive
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    In true Ricochet fashion, we have gone down the rabbit hole.  

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  6. Nanocelt TheContrarian Member
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    Susan Quinn: And innovators—well, it depends on whether you see electric cars as an inevitable part of the future, or an irresponsible and impractical development.

    Irresponsible? Nah, go for it.

    Impractical? Oh yes.

    Unless and until you start constructing nuclear power plants, because that is the only way you’ll get enough electricity.

    That’s just it; developing these things? Yes. Subsidizing them? NO.

    I heard from a friend that her financial adviser just died when a Tesla that that he was driving exploded and burned, in the Woodlands, Texas. Her financial adviser was incinerated, no body left.  Cremated.  The vehicle’s battery kept exploding and it was many hours before anyone could even approach the vehicle. 

    Musk’s main skill is getting government to throw money at him. The jokes on us. 

    I just drove by a parking lot for Tesla’s at the local University, with solar panels atop poles at each parking spot. Guess who paid for that? 

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    Musk’s main skill is getting government to throw money at him. The jokes on us. 

    The government throws the money.  Musk doesn’t force them to do it.   SpaceX would be doing almost as well without the government contracts.  These are contracts, not free money.

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    If government is going to throw money, I’d just as soon they threw it at Elon rather than ACORN.

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    If government is going to throw money, I’d just as soon they threw it at Elon rather than ACORN.

    Agreed, because Elon is performing on a contract and giving value in return.  

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    Musk’s main skill is getting government to throw money at him. The jokes on us.

    The government throws the money. Musk doesn’t force them to do it. SpaceX would be doing almost as well without the government contracts. These are contracts, not free money.

    He doesn’t have to: the fix is in.

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    Musk’s main skill is getting government to throw money at him. The jokes on us.

    The government throws the money. Musk doesn’t force them to do it. SpaceX would be doing almost as well without the government contracts. These are contracts, not free money.

    He doesn’t have to: the fix is in.

    He’s got to deliver.

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    Musk’s main skill is getting government to throw money at him. The jokes on us.

    The government throws the money. Musk doesn’t force them to do it. SpaceX would be doing almost as well without the government contracts. These are contracts, not free money.

    He doesn’t have to: the fix is in.

    The “fix?”   What fix is that?   He’s doing things no one even dreamed possible.  He has made it so that no other business can compete with his company.   He hasn’t stopped them from copying his methods, he’s encouraged it. 

    Anyone saying SpaceX has had a fix is really just an apologist for the status quo where big businesses get government contracts based on politics instead of value and performance.  

    SpaceX’s competitors for sending people to the space station are the Russians, who are paid to keep their rocket scientists from supplying our enemies, and the conglomeration of the usual suspects in the aerospace and defense industries who have failed to stay on budget or schedule and have not even yet successfully launched an unmanned system.  

    Those businesses that have failed don’t have a single face to point at.  They’re an amorphous blob that has tremendous political pull.  

    Tell me how SpaceX isn’t saving money and isn’t providing what was contracted cheaper and better than any competitor and maybe there might be a case for a fix.  As it is now, almost any company that is awarded any contract in space except SpaceX are the ones with a corrupt “fix.”

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    Musk’s main skill is getting government to throw money at him. The jokes on us.

    The government throws the money. Musk doesn’t force them to do it. SpaceX would be doing almost as well without the government contracts. These are contracts, not free money.

    He doesn’t have to: the fix is in.

    He’s got to deliver.

    What.  Two rocket rides?  Everything else he’s build explodes or catches fire.

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    Musk’s main skill is getting government to throw money at him. The jokes on us.

    The government throws the money. Musk doesn’t force them to do it. SpaceX would be doing almost as well without the government contracts. These are contracts, not free money.

    He doesn’t have to: the fix is in.

    He’s got to deliver.

    What. Two rocket rides? Everything else he’s build explodes or catches fire.

    You have no idea what you’re talking about. The flights in Boca Chica are are radical new method of landing very large rockets.  

    The falcon 9 system hasn’t failed to deliver in a very long time and they’ve successfully landed more than 80 times to allow reuse of the first stage.  They have launched thousands of satellites into orbit.  They are far and away the most successful launcher of all time. 

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    Musk’s main skill is getting government to throw money at him. The jokes on us.

    The government throws the money. Musk doesn’t force them to do it. SpaceX would be doing almost as well without the government contracts. These are contracts, not free money.

    He doesn’t have to: the fix is in.

    The “fix?” What fix is that? He’s doing things no one even dreamed possible. He has made it so that no other business can compete with his company. He hasn’t stopped them from copying his methods, he’s encouraged it.

    Anyone saying SpaceX has had a fix is really just an apologist for the status quo where big businesses get government contracts based on politics instead of value and performance.

    SpaceX’s competitors for sending people to the space station are the Russians, who are paid to keep their rocket scientists from supplying our enemies, and the conglomeration of the usual suspects in the aerospace and defense industries who have failed to stay on budget or schedule and have not even yet successfully launched an unmanned system.

    Those businesses that have failed don’t have a single face to point at. They’re an amorphous blob that has tremendous political pull.

    Tell me how SpaceX isn’t saving money and isn’t providing what was contracted cheaper and better than any competitor and maybe there might be a case for a fix. As it is now, almost any company that is awarded any contract in space except SpaceX are the ones with a corrupt “fix.”

    My comments about Musk go back to the idea that “he shows us how to fight with the government”.  I think Musk is not an entrepreneur who fights with the government but an irascible and semi-competent government employee front man.  I haven’t been keeping up but a lot of his government scuffling, in which he took on and disobeyed the SEC, had to do with tweeting false tweets to boost his stock value.

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    Musk’s main skill is getting government to throw money at him. The jokes on us.

    The government throws the money. Musk doesn’t force them to do it. SpaceX would be doing almost as well without the government contracts. These are contracts, not free money.

    He doesn’t have to: the fix is in.

    He’s got to deliver.

    What. Two rocket rides? Everything else he’s build explodes or catches fire.

    You have no idea what you’re talking about. The flights in Boca Chica are are radical new method of landing very large rockets.

    The falcon 9 system hasn’t failed to deliver in a very long time and they’ve successfully landed more than 80 times to allow reuse of the first stage. They have launched thousands of satellites into orbit. They are far and away the most successful launcher of all time.

    Yes, there’s much I don’t know about Musk.  I lost all interest in him years ago, and only know now what I read on Ricochet.  I understand one of his cars just spontaneously combusted and immolated a woman in Texas.

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  17. Skyler Coolidge
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    I think Musk is not an entrepreneur who fights with the government but an irascible and semi-competent government employee front man.

    That is an absurd perspective that borders on the insane.  

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    I think Musk is not an entrepreneur who fights with the government but an irascible and semi-competent government employee front man.

    That is an absurd perspective that borders on the insane.

    To be clearer, he doesn’t fight the government.  He works with them and sells his products to them.  But he is not a government employee or even spokesman. 

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    I think Musk is not an entrepreneur who fights with the government but an irascible and semi-competent government employee front man.

    That is an absurd perspective that borders on the insane.

    Remember pedo-guy?  Musk did that.  Do you think he really engineered one single part of anything he produces? He’s a front man with enthusiastic boosters.

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    I think Musk is not an entrepreneur who fights with the government but an irascible and semi-competent government employee front man.

    That is an absurd perspective that borders on the insane.

    Remember pedo-guy? Musk did that. Do you think he really engineered one single part of anything he produces? He’s a front man with enthusiastic boosters.

    Yes.  I remember pedo guy.  Musk won the lawsuit by the way.  And the guy did move to Thailand to marry someone who was half his age.  Poor judgment by Musk to attack him over it, though. 

    He has a degree in physics.  He is the company’s chief engineer.  He is very involved. He doesn’t do all the work and not every idea springs from his mind, but he’s the boss and he’s no slouch. 

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    Musk’s main skill is getting government to throw money at him. The jokes on us.

    The government throws the money. Musk doesn’t force them to do it. SpaceX would be doing almost as well without the government contracts. These are contracts, not free money.

    He doesn’t have to: the fix is in.

    He’s got to deliver.

    What. Two rocket rides? Everything else he’s build explodes or catches fire.

    I’m the chief engineer of this thing, so I’d just like to say that if it goes right, it’s credit to the SpaceX-NASA team. If it goes wrong, it’s my fault.

    — Elon “Yeah, they clank when I walk” Musk, on “CBS This Morning” the morning of the first manned DragonX launch.

     

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    Skyler (View Comment):
    The falcon 9 system hasn’t failed to deliver in a very long time and they’ve successfully landed more than 80 times to allow reuse of the first stage.  They have launched thousands of satellites into orbit.  They are far and away the most successful launcher of all time. 

    They have tentatively scheduled a launch for around 3pm this afternoon. I’ll be watching!

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    The falcon 9 system hasn’t failed to deliver in a very long time and they’ve successfully landed more than 80 times to allow reuse of the first stage. They have launched thousands of satellites into orbit. They are far and away the most successful launcher of all time.

    They have tentatively scheduled a launch for around 3pm this afternoon. I’ll be watching!

    I told my daughter the launch was about to start.  “Is it a flip ‘n’ burn launch or the boring kind?”  Sigh.  Landing rockets on a barge at sea after boosting a payload to orbit is the “boring kind” of launch now.

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    The falcon 9 system hasn’t failed to deliver in a very long time and they’ve successfully landed more than 80 times to allow reuse of the first stage. They have launched thousands of satellites into orbit. They are far and away the most successful launcher of all time.

    They have tentatively scheduled a launch for around 3pm this afternoon. I’ll be watching!

    Darnit.  10 minutes late.

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    Skyler (View Comment):
    I told my daughter the launch was about to start.  “Is it a flip ‘n’ burn launch or the boring kind?”  Sigh.  Landing rockets on a barge at sea after boosting a payload to orbit is the “boring kind” of launch now.

    I’d guess you’d call it the boring kind; it landed on the drone ship, “Of Course I Still Love You.” It’s always magical to me. We watch it on the local TV station–the tv is in the living room next to the kitchen. Once it lifts off, we switch to the big picture window. Just amazing!

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    The “fix?”   What fix is that?   He’s doing things no one even dreamed possible.  He has made it so that no other business can compete with his company.   He hasn’t stopped them from copying his methods, he’s encouraged it. 

    How many Teslas would sell if it wasn’t for government subsidies?

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    The “fix?” What fix is that? He’s doing things no one even dreamed possible. He has made it so that no other business can compete with his company. He hasn’t stopped them from copying his methods, he’s encouraged it.

    How many Teslas would sell if it wasn’t for government subsidies?

    He didn’t make the subsidy.  It’s not his fault.  

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    The “fix?” What fix is that? He’s doing things no one even dreamed possible. He has made it so that no other business can compete with his company. He hasn’t stopped them from copying his methods, he’s encouraged it.

    How many Teslas would sell if it wasn’t for government subsidies?

    He didn’t make the subsidy. It’s not his fault.

    I didn’t say it was his fault, I said I’m blaming him (sorry, couldn’t resist).  It remains that, if the government wasn’t subsidizing him, he wouldn’t be in the Tesla business.

    SpaceX is something else entirely, and I have no qualms about him taking government money to launch satellites and astronauts into space.  Probably saves us money in the long run.

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    The “fix?” What fix is that? He’s doing things no one even dreamed possible. He has made it so that no other business can compete with his company. He hasn’t stopped them from copying his methods, he’s encouraged it.

    How many Teslas would sell if it wasn’t for government subsidies?

    He didn’t make the subsidy. It’s not his fault.

    I didn’t say it was his fault, I said I’m blaming him (sorry, couldn’t resist). It remains that, if the government wasn’t subsidizing him, he wouldn’t be in the Tesla business.

    SpaceX is something else entirely, and I have no qualms about him taking government money to launch satellites and astronauts into space. Probably saves us money in the long run.

    Musk didn’t lobby to make those subsidies.  But once the rules of commerce changed, he sought to exploit the rules exactly within the intent of the rules.  

    And I suspect, given the cachet of his brand, that his cars would still sell well without the subsidy.

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    The “fix?” What fix is that? He’s doing things no one even dreamed possible. He has made it so that no other business can compete with his company. He hasn’t stopped them from copying his methods, he’s encouraged it.

    How many Teslas would sell if it wasn’t for government subsidies?

    He didn’t make the subsidy. It’s not his fault.

    I didn’t say it was his fault, I said I’m blaming him (sorry, couldn’t resist). It remains that, if the government wasn’t subsidizing him, he wouldn’t be in the Tesla business.

    SpaceX is something else entirely, and I have no qualms about him taking government money to launch satellites and astronauts into space. Probably saves us money in the long run.

    Musk didn’t lobby to make those subsidies. But once the rules of commerce changed, he sought to exploit the rules exactly within the intent of the rules.

    And I suspect, given the cachet of his brand, that his cars would still sell well without the subsidy.

    But it’s possible that he wouldn’t have had the funding to develop them, without the subsidies.  Perhaps especially advancing to the model 3, which is the only moderately-affordable one and took a lot of expensive work to get to.  Work that was funded in part through those subsidies.

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