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1. Coolidge
   TBA

   @RobtGilsdorf

   12:59 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

   Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

   I was given the insight into the Genesis story of The Fall and punishment many years ago (and I’m incredibly humble, too). The punishment for men and women differs, and speaks to the nature of each sex. Women will desire their husbands despite the pains of childbirth (and child-rearing) and men will labor (in the dirt) to bring forth provision for his family. These answer the question, “what do women (and men) really want from men (and women)?”

   Women want to be protected and provided for in their vulnerable roles as wife and mother. To be cherished for their unique vulnerability. If you could get a feminist to honestly assess this, I think she’d admit it’s true. Sure education and career can be rewarding, but ultimate satisfaction would be receiving the love of a good man.

   And men want to be honored in their work by their wives, children, and colleagues. It’s the respect, appreciation, and love of a good woman that ultimately satisfies a good man.

   I believe men and women want the same things but in different tones. 

2. Inactive
   Stina

   @CM

   1:00 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

   Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

   Stina (View Comment):

   kedavis (View Comment):
   Comedian Bill Burr may have a point with things like “what makes women happy? Nothing!” It’s entirely possible that women are (largely, for the most part, whatever option you prefer) incapable of “being happy.” It may be that “happiness” is some kind of never-ending process or journey, and they have no idea of their own of what path to take.

   Perhaps a failure of expectation in what happiness is. The constant pursuit of the endorphin high of “happiness” creates a kind of manic pursuit only exacerbated by the ebb and flow of hormones that only feed the sensation of addiction withdrawal.

   Perhaps the challenge for women is to accept that the constancy of contentment is where true and stable happiness comes from and that may temper, though never tame, their constant reach for the greener grass elsewhere.

   Contentment is not the same feeling of euphoric happiness, but it is far more stable. And like training our tongues to favor the taste of whole foods over cakes and sweets, we should train ourselves to enjoy the feeling of contentment as the steady diet of our lives.

   This is why we need genetic engineering. Happiness is at least half genetic.

   Just as you give flippant dismissal to the perspective of faith, I will give dismissal to your making Science god.

3. Coolidge
   TBA

   @RobtGilsdorf

   1:00 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

   kedavis (View Comment):

   Keith Lowery (View Comment):
   If the economics of this thing turn out to be profitable, I would expect that even the e-girls themselves will eventually be replaced by AI-driven bots and deep fake video. Then it could be done at scale and without the inconvenience of finding enough analog young women with purple hair. Would paying to be flattered by a bot be more pathetic than paying to be flattered by a human being?

   This fits into my belief that Uber/Lyft/etc never really wanted to have people drivers that get paid, they were just passing time until they could have fleets of self-driving cars and keep all the money for themselves. Real females may be fulfilling the same role now, in this area, temporarily.

   I don’t think I could ever have a fulfilling relationship with a self-driving car no matter how sexy it dressed. 

4. Coolidge
   TBA

   @RobtGilsdorf

   1:02 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

   kedavis (View Comment):

   OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

   You are actually missing another side of all this. Children are expensive to raise both in time and treasure. Having kids is a massive endeavor for most people who come from homes where they were carefully raised. The people who have tons of kids either have a high value on family or raise children with the same neglect they endured growing up.

   Let’s consider the following:

   Helicopter parenting – kids must be constantly supervised, even older grade school kids.

   Kids are much less useful in the workforce – Aside from child labor laws, there’s less tradework and apprenticeships.

   Mothers have a less important role – Mothers are less involved in teaching children. The mother is basically an unpaid babysitter. It’s not seen as a role requiring intelligence, skill, or talent beyond the patience to deal with annoying brats. It’s a job for unskilled workers and minimum wage labor.

   This goes even more for fathers and husbands – not prestigious, not particularly valued, and generally all hassle and limited perceived benefit.

   I don’t miss any of that, my larger point is that I don’t think you can get back to how children and parenthood – perhaps especially motherhood – were (at least theoretically) valued in the past, “simply” by a large-scale return to religion. Even if the value-ing is sincere, there are a large number of practical matters that didn’t exist in the past, pushing in the opposite direction.

   A lot of our cultural misery involves people shouting ‘I’m just as good as you!’ in response to nothing in particular. 

5. Coolidge
   TBA

   @RobtGilsdorf

   1:13 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

   kedavis (View Comment):

   Stina (View Comment):

   kedavis (View Comment):
   But I think you’d also find that such a return to earlier values would put girls/women into a position that would not be acceptable. Whether that’s “good” or “bad” I don’t really know, but I’m certain that it’s true.

   Compared to what, though?

   Women aren’t happy now. They are actually kind of miserable. The only people who eke out any satisfaction are the jealous monstrosities only desperate men are willing to touch but never willing to marry. It was the Jezebels who have ruined marriage for women men find attractive.

   While attention on domestic violence and social stigmas on lots of foul behavior have become more equitable and helped push those to the edges of society, they have not been eradicated through feminism. All that has been gained is more labor for the employers (so, cheaper) and some concept of an independent woman. But independence isn’t really something women really want so much as feel we need to protect us from irresponsible boys.

   Everything else just makes the boyhood worse and the degradation and harm from modern sexual relationships more onerous and burdensome. Women aren’t sexually liberated. They still feel pressured into first sexual interactions by overly amorous boys and they give in to sexual relationships because it is expectedly “normal”. That’s not freedom. It’s just conforming to a different moral code and expectation of behavior.

   Comedian Bill Burr may have a point with things like “what makes women happy? Nothing!” It’s entirely possible that women are (largely, for the most part, whatever option you prefer) incapable of “being happy.” It may be that “happiness” is some kind of never-ending process or journey, and they have no idea of their own of what path to take. Or at least, if they expect that such-and-such a decision or action will “make me happy” and it never does, while they’re being told by TV ads or what-not that they’re SUPPOSED TO BE happy, they get mad and lash out at whoever is nearby and perhaps blame-able: often/usually a man. Men know they (usually) aren’t responsible for a woman’s unhappiness, and nothing they try seems to help, so at some point they might just give up. In the past, family and church and tradition etc could tell women “this is what leads to a fulfilling life” and even if they never actually felt “happy” about it, at least it was a goal. Now they have nothing, except the anger/bitterness/whatever about “not being happy.”

   Just a starting thought.

   Happiness is always a temporary achievement. Being content or serene are things that can be long-term. 

6. Coolidge
   kedavis

   @kedavis

   1:14 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

   TBA (View Comment):

   kedavis (View Comment):

   OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

   You are actually missing another side of all this. Children are expensive to raise both in time and treasure. Having kids is a massive endeavor for most people who come from homes where they were carefully raised. The people who have tons of kids either have a high value on family or raise children with the same neglect they endured growing up.

   Let’s consider the following:

   Helicopter parenting – kids must be constantly supervised, even older grade school kids.

   Kids are much less useful in the workforce – Aside from child labor laws, there’s less tradework and apprenticeships.

   Mothers have a less important role – Mothers are less involved in teaching children. The mother is basically an unpaid babysitter. It’s not seen as a role requiring intelligence, skill, or talent beyond the patience to deal with annoying brats. It’s a job for unskilled workers and minimum wage labor.

   This goes even more for fathers and husbands – not prestigious, not particularly valued, and generally all hassle and limited perceived benefit.

   I don’t miss any of that, my larger point is that I don’t think you can get back to how children and parenthood – perhaps especially motherhood – were (at least theoretically) valued in the past, “simply” by a large-scale return to religion. Even if the value-ing is sincere, there are a large number of practical matters that didn’t exist in the past, pushing in the opposite direction.

   A lot of our cultural misery involves people shouting ‘I’m just as good as you!’ in response to nothing in particular.

   I see now that “I don’t miss any of that” could be interpreted as other than I intended.  I should have put it as “I didn’t miss any of those points you made.”

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   Randy Webster

   @RandyWebster

   1:15 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

   TBA (View Comment):
   Happiness is always

   I heard it was a warm gun.

8. Coolidge
   TBA

   @RobtGilsdorf

   1:15 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

   TBA (View Comment):

   kedavis (View Comment):

   Stina (View Comment):

   kedavis (View Comment):
   But I think you’d also find that such a return to earlier values would put girls/women into a position that would not be acceptable. Whether that’s “good” or “bad” I don’t really know, but I’m certain that it’s true.

   Compared to what, though?

   Women aren’t happy now. They are actually kind of miserable. The only people who eke out any satisfaction are the jealous monstrosities only desperate men are willing to touch but never willing to marry. It was the Jezebels who have ruined marriage for women men find attractive.

   While attention on domestic violence and social stigmas on lots of foul behavior have become more equitable and helped push those to the edges of society, they have not been eradicated through feminism. All that has been gained is more labor for the employers (so, cheaper) and some concept of an independent woman. But independence isn’t really something women really want so much as feel we need to protect us from irresponsible boys.

   Everything else just makes the boyhood worse and the degradation and harm from modern sexual relationships more onerous and burdensome. Women aren’t sexually liberated. They still feel pressured into first sexual interactions by overly amorous boys and they give in to sexual relationships because it is expectedly “normal”. That’s not freedom. It’s just conforming to a different moral code and expectation of behavior.

   Comedian Bill Burr may have a point with things like “what makes women happy? Nothing!” It’s entirely possible that women are (largely, for the most part, whatever option you prefer) incapable of “being happy.” It may be that “happiness” is some kind of never-ending process or journey, and they have no idea of their own of what path to take. Or at least, if they expect that such-and-such a decision or action will “make me happy” and it never does, while they’re being told by TV ads or what-not that they’re SUPPOSED TO BE happy, they get mad and lash out at whoever is nearby and perhaps blame-able: often/usually a man. Men know they (usually) aren’t responsible for a woman’s unhappiness, and nothing they try seems to help, so at some point they might just give up. In the past, family and church and tradition etc could tell women “this is what leads to a fulfilling life” and even if they never actually felt “happy” about it, at least it was a goal. Now they have nothing, except the anger/bitterness/whatever about “not being happy.”

   Just a starting thought.

   Happiness is always a temporary achievement. Being content or serene are things that can be long-term.

   Comment Rendered Superfluous by @Stina. 

9. Member
   The Reticulator

   @TheReticulator

   1:42 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

   Kephalithos (View Comment):

   Henry Castaigne (View Comment): It has gotten worse since then. Homosexuals like Douglass Murray have noticed that the war between the sexes seems to be heating up in a way that disturbs them as bystanders. Recently, a friend of his had his kid go off to University and he mentioned that his kid wasn’t interested in girls. Murray said, “Oh, well so he’s. gay” The father responded that, “No. He thinks that there are more trouble than their worth.”

   Well, I can assure you that I’m not interested in feminists — i.e., the majority of women in 2020.

   The political and cultural polarization of the sexes is a brewing disaster. I can’t tell you how many right-leaning Millennial and Generation Z guys (including me) have developed a kind of low-grade misogyny over the last few years. It’s hard to look at the way many women of our generation present themselves on social media (and on, say, dating websites) and not feel a pang of disgust. The crassness, the lack of self-respect, the virtue-signaling, the bandwagoning — all universal, and all very unattractive.

   There are exceptions to the rule, and thank goodness for that! I’m looking for one of those exceptions. I haven’t yet found her.

   A university might not be the most likely place to find that these days. Then again, I’m not sure about any alternatives. (I met my wife in college, but that was a different time.)

10. Coolidge
    Manny

    @Manny

    1:42 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    There are many sexual perversions around that it’s impossible to keep count. It’s amazing what some men will do for a vicarious experience. And it’s amazing how many women will lower themselves to either prostitution, porn, or this. It’s a sick world. If this doesn’t show you how broken society is then I don’t know what else will. 

11. Member
    Henry Castaigne

    @HenryCastaigne

    2:30 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    Stina (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Comedian Bill Burr may have a point with things like “what makes women happy? Nothing!” It’s entirely possible that women are (largely, for the most part, whatever option you prefer) incapable of “being happy.” It may be that “happiness” is some kind of never-ending process or journey, and they have no idea of their own of what path to take.

    Perhaps a failure of expectation in what happiness is. The constant pursuit of the endorphin high of “happiness” creates a kind of manic pursuit only exacerbated by the ebb and flow of hormones that only feed the sensation of addiction withdrawal.

    Perhaps the challenge for women is to accept that the constancy of contentment is where true and stable happiness comes from and that may temper, though never tame, their constant reach for the greener grass elsewhere.

    Contentment is not the same feeling of euphoric happiness, but it is far more stable. And like training our tongues to favor the taste of whole foods over cakes and sweets, we should train ourselves to enjoy the feeling of contentment as the steady diet of our lives.

    This is why we need genetic engineering. Happiness is at least half genetic.

    Just as you give flippant dismissal to the perspective of faith, I will give dismissal to your making Science god.

    I think I may have researched more into religion than you have about genetics. Also, why would you suggest that I have ever dismissed faith or made science god or G-d? I don’t get at all what you think my position is. 

12. Coolidge
    Joseph Stanko

    @JosephStanko

    

    2:45 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    I don’t believe in G-d. You can’t make me believe in G-d. How are you going to make a world based on Christian morality with people like me. Your desire for a Christian revival doesn’t seem to add into that so many peoples genetic inability to believe in G-d. 

    We’ve run this experiment, societies based on Christian values endured and thrived for hundreds of years. 

13. Coolidge
    Joseph Stanko

    @JosephStanko

    

    2:48 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Recently, a friend of his had his kid go off to University and he mentioned that his kid wasn’t interested in girls. Murray said, “Oh, well so he’s. gay” The father responded that, “No. He thinks that there are more trouble than their worth.”

    Murray mentions that lots of young men feel that way. (Video clip here.)

    To summarize Murray’s point, young men have no idea how to interact with women anymore. Religious people are an exemption.

    Are we?  I’m not so sure most young Christian men have any idea, either. 

14. Coolidge
    kedavis

    @kedavis

    2:51 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    Joseph Stanko (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Recently, a friend of his had his kid go off to University and he mentioned that his kid wasn’t interested in girls. Murray said, “Oh, well so he’s. gay” The father responded that, “No. He thinks that there are more trouble than their worth.”

    Murray mentions that lots of young men feel that way. (Video clip here.)

    To summarize Murray’s point, young men have no idea how to interact with women anymore. Religious people are an exemption.

    Are we? I’m not so sure most young Christian men have any idea, either.

    Could that mean that the women they’re trying to deal with, aren’t actually Christian?

15. Coolidge
    Joseph Stanko

    @JosephStanko

    

    2:54 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    I was given the insight into the Genesis story of The Fall and punishment many years ago (and I’m incredibly humble, too). The punishment for men and women differs, and speaks to the nature of each sex. Women will desire their husbands despite the pains of childbirth (and child-rearing) and men will labor (in the dirt) to bring forth provision for his family. These answer the question, “what do women (and men) really want from men (and women)?”

    Women want to be protected and provided for in their vulnerable roles as wife and mother. To be cherished for their unique vulnerability. If you could get a feminist to honestly assess this, I think she’d admit it’s true. Sure education and career can be rewarding, but ultimate satisfaction would be receiving the love of a good man.

    And men want to be honored in their work by their wives, children, and colleagues. It’s the respect, appreciation, and love of a good woman that ultimately satisfies a good man.

     

    I mostly agree but would caution that ultimate satisfaction can only be found in God.  “Our hearts are restless, Lord, until they rest in you.”  A man and woman might have a happy marriage and still be dissatisfied if they don’t also have a relationship with the Lord. 

16. Member
    Western Chauvinist

    @WesternChauvinist

    

    3:04 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    Joseph Stanko (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    I was given the insight into the Genesis story of The Fall and punishment many years ago (and I’m incredibly humble, too). The punishment for men and women differs, and speaks to the nature of each sex. Women will desire their husbands despite the pains of childbirth (and child-rearing) and men will labor (in the dirt) to bring forth provision for his family. These answer the question, “what do women (and men) really want from men (and women)?”

    Women want to be protected and provided for in their vulnerable roles as wife and mother. To be cherished for their unique vulnerability. If you could get a feminist to honestly assess this, I think she’d admit it’s true. Sure education and career can be rewarding, but ultimate satisfaction would be receiving the love of a good man.

    And men want to be honored in their work by their wives, children, and colleagues. It’s the respect, appreciation, and love of a good woman that ultimately satisfies a good man.

     

    I mostly agree but would caution that ultimate satisfaction can only be found in God. “Our hearts are restless, Lord, until they rest in you.” A man and woman might have a happy marriage and still be dissatisfied if they don’t also have a relationship with the Lord.

    Agreed. I thought about editing. This is also a very Christian sensibility — this world isn’t heaven and won’t be until the Second Coming. But marriages can be very good.

17. Member
    Kephalithos

    @Kephalithos

    Post author

    3:06 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    The Reticulator (View Comment): A university might not be the most likely place to find that these days. Then again, I’m not sure about any alternatives. (I met my wife in college, but that was a different time.)

    There are no alternatives. Graduate single, die single. That’s how it works nowadays.

    I went to Hillsdale. About 50 percent of my graduating class left the school either engaged or dating. The other 50 percent? Destined to be scraped off the floor by a cleanup crew.

18. Coolidge
    Joseph Stanko

    @JosephStanko

    

    3:10 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment): A university might not be the most likely place to find that these days. Then again, I’m not sure about any alternatives. (I met my wife in college, but that was a different time.)

    There are no alternatives. Graduate single, die single. That’s how it works nowadays.

    I went to Hillsdale. About 50 percent of my graduating class left the school either engaged or dating. The other 50 percent? Destined to be scraped off the floor by a cleanup crew.

    Now that’s a cheery thought to kick off 2021. 

19. Member
    Western Chauvinist

    @WesternChauvinist

    

    3:13 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment): A university might not be the most likely place to find that these days. Then again, I’m not sure about any alternatives. (I met my wife in college, but that was a different time.)

    There are no alternatives. Graduate single, die single. That’s how it works nowadays.

    I went to Hillsdale. About 50 percent of my graduating class left the school either engaged or dating. The other 50 percent? Destined to be scraped off the floor by a cleanup crew.

    Can’t “Like” this. I’d recommend you attend lots and lots of Hillsdale events — CCAs, Leadership Seminars, alumni events, sports camps. Whatever. Find a way to stay engaged with that community of people who have thought about and have some clue about “the good life.”

    We’ve made friends there, and that’s really how a good marriage begins anyway — in friendship. 

20. Member
    Kephalithos

    @Kephalithos

    Post author

    3:13 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    Joseph Stanko (View Comment):

    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment): A university might not be the most likely place to find that these days. Then again, I’m not sure about any alternatives. (I met my wife in college, but that was a different time.)

    There are no alternatives. Graduate single, die single. That’s how it works nowadays.

    I went to Hillsdale. About 50 percent of my graduating class left the school either engaged or dating. The other 50 percent? Destined to be scraped off the floor by a cleanup crew.

    Now that’s a cheery thought to kick off 2021.

    I’m a cheery guy.

21. Inactive
    Randy Webster

    @RandyWebster

    3:18 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Could that mean that the women they’re trying to deal with, aren’t actually Christian?

    It’s not that.  Men have never had any idea how to interact with women.  When they did, it was pure luck.

22. Member
    Dr. Jimmy Carter

    @JimmyCarter

    

    3:21 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    Joseph Stanko (View Comment):

    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment): A university might not be the most likely place to find that these days. Then again, I’m not sure about any alternatives. (I met my wife in college, but that was a different time.)

    There are no alternatives. Graduate single, die single. That’s how it works nowadays.

    I went to Hillsdale. About 50 percent of my graduating class left the school either engaged or dating. The other 50 percent? Destined to be scraped off the floor by a cleanup crew.

    Now that’s a cheery thought to kick off 2021.

    And the funny thing is that article about lonely deaths is two years old… and has no comments. 

23. Member
    Kephalithos

    @Kephalithos

    Post author

    3:21 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment): A university might not be the most likely place to find that these days. Then again, I’m not sure about any alternatives. (I met my wife in college, but that was a different time.)

    There are no alternatives. Graduate single, die single. That’s how it works nowadays.

    I went to Hillsdale. About 50 percent of my graduating class left the school either engaged or dating. The other 50 percent? Destined to be scraped off the floor by a cleanup crew.

    Can’t “Like” this. I’d recommend you attend lots and lots of Hillsdale events — CCAs, Leadership Seminars, alumni events, sports camps. Whatever. Find a way to stay engaged with that community of people who have thought about and have some clue about “the good life.”

    Wrong crowd, mostly. I may be an old soul, but I don’t mean it literally.

24. Member
    Kephalithos

    @Kephalithos

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    3:23 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    Dr. Jimmy Carter (View Comment): And the funny thing is that article about lonely deaths is two years old… and has no comments.

    COVID: Bringing a death squad to a city near you!

25. Coolidge
    kedavis

    @kedavis

    3:31 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Could that mean that the women they’re trying to deal with, aren’t actually Christian?

    It’s not that. Men have never had any idea how to interact with women. When they did, it was pure luck.

    Well maybe in larger society.  But I thought we were – at least in part – discussing a Christian set of attitudes where women are to be cherished and honored for being mothers etc, but if Christian men approach them that way and are met with “No way, I expect a job with pay equal to yours, and a government-paid nanny to take care of children I may or may not have via a sperm bank or whatever!” doesn’t that mean the supposedly Christian women didn’t get the same message, maybe even from the church?

26. Coolidge
    kedavis

    @kedavis

    3:33 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    Dr. Jimmy Carter (View Comment):

    Joseph Stanko (View Comment):

    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment): A university might not be the most likely place to find that these days. Then again, I’m not sure about any alternatives. (I met my wife in college, but that was a different time.)

    There are no alternatives. Graduate single, die single. That’s how it works nowadays.

    I went to Hillsdale. About 50 percent of my graduating class left the school either engaged or dating. The other 50 percent? Destined to be scraped off the floor by a cleanup crew.

    Now that’s a cheery thought to kick off 2021.

    And the funny thing is that article about lonely deaths is two years old… and has no comments.

    You missed that?

     

    Comments are now closed

    All comments sections automatically close 14 days after the story has published. For more details, please see our discussion guidelines.

     

    So the comments have also been closed for almost the whole 2 years.

27. Member
    Western Chauvinist

    @WesternChauvinist

    

    3:56 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment): A university might not be the most likely place to find that these days. Then again, I’m not sure about any alternatives. (I met my wife in college, but that was a different time.)

    There are no alternatives. Graduate single, die single. That’s how it works nowadays.

    I went to Hillsdale. About 50 percent of my graduating class left the school either engaged or dating. The other 50 percent? Destined to be scraped off the floor by a cleanup crew.

    Can’t “Like” this. I’d recommend you attend lots and lots of Hillsdale events — CCAs, Leadership Seminars, alumni events, sports camps. Whatever. Find a way to stay engaged with that community of people who have thought about and have some clue about “the good life.”

    Wrong crowd, mostly. I may be an old soul, but I don’t mean it literally.

    Haha — you mean it’s a bunch of old white people? I never noticed. /sarc off

    Are there no alumni groups? You can at least make connections with people who might know people or have daughters your age. I’d fix you up if we lived closer. I know some gals looking for a thoughtful Hillsdale kind of guy. . . 

28. Coolidge
    kedavis

    @kedavis

    4:11 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment): A university might not be the most likely place to find that these days. Then again, I’m not sure about any alternatives. (I met my wife in college, but that was a different time.)

    There are no alternatives. Graduate single, die single. That’s how it works nowadays.

    I went to Hillsdale. About 50 percent of my graduating class left the school either engaged or dating. The other 50 percent? Destined to be scraped off the floor by a cleanup crew.

    Can’t “Like” this. I’d recommend you attend lots and lots of Hillsdale events — CCAs, Leadership Seminars, alumni events, sports camps. Whatever. Find a way to stay engaged with that community of people who have thought about and have some clue about “the good life.”

    Wrong crowd, mostly. I may be an old soul, but I don’t mean it literally.

    Haha — you mean it’s a bunch of old white people? I never noticed. /sarc off

    Are there no alumni groups? You can at least make connections with people who might know people or have daughters your age. I’d fix you up if we lived closer. I know some gals looking for a thoughtful Hillsdale kind of guy. . .

    And he even went to Hillsdale, so my chances are probably zero.

29. Member
    Western Chauvinist

    @WesternChauvinist

    

    4:17 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

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    The Reticulator (View Comment): A university might not be the most likely place to find that these days. Then again, I’m not sure about any alternatives. (I met my wife in college, but that was a different time.)

    There are no alternatives. Graduate single, die single. That’s how it works nowadays.

    I went to Hillsdale. About 50 percent of my graduating class left the school either engaged or dating. The other 50 percent? Destined to be scraped off the floor by a cleanup crew.

    Can’t “Like” this. I’d recommend you attend lots and lots of Hillsdale events — CCAs, Leadership Seminars, alumni events, sports camps. Whatever. Find a way to stay engaged with that community of people who have thought about and have some clue about “the good life.”

    Wrong crowd, mostly. I may be an old soul, but I don’t mean it literally.

    Haha — you mean it’s a bunch of old white people? I never noticed. /sarc off

    Are there no alumni groups? You can at least make connections with people who might know people or have daughters your age. I’d fix you up if we lived closer. I know some gals looking for a thoughtful Hillsdale kind of guy. . .

    And he even went to Hillsdale, so my chances are probably zero.

    Matches have been made right here on Ricochet. It’s good to know the “right” people. 

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    Randy Webster

    @RandyWebster

    4:20 PM EST ⋅ Jan 2, 2021

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Well maybe in larger society. But I thought we were – at least in part – discussing a Christian set of attitudes where women are to be cherished and honored for being mothers etc, but if Christian men approach them that way and are met with “No way, I expect a job with pay equal to yours, and a government-paid nanny to take care of children I may or may not have via a sperm bank or whatever!” doesn’t that mean the supposedly Christian women didn’t get the same message, maybe even from the church?

    All of that may be true.  But I’ve been married 41 years and still haven’t figured my wife out. I’m sure she feels the same about me.