Recommended by Ricochet Members Created with Sketch. I Don’t Understand Obama’s Sudden Support for Joe Biden

 

Obama, Biden, and Biden, LLC
So the FBI had Hunter Biden’s laptop for about a year, and didn’t do anything with all that evidence. Ok, that makes sense. The FBI’s job is to investigate Republicans. There were no Republicans implicated in this evidence, so why would they pursue an investigation? Again, that makes perfect sense. But then, after that perfectly predictable beginning, some rather odd things started to happen.

A copy of the laptop’s hard drive falls into Republican hands a few weeks before the election. How fortuitous. And then there’s Barack Obama. He could have campaigned for Joe Biden during the primary, but he did not. He could have campaigned for him after Biden won the nomination, but he did not. But then Mr. Obama changed his mind, and decided to help Biden on the campaign trail. And he did so, I think, within a few days of the laptop evidence being exposed. One wonders what other evidence is on that laptop. I have no idea. But I suspect that Mr. Obama may have some idea.

This is all getting pretty weird.

I don’t see how the Democrats can lose a national election with mail-in ballots. With enough mail-in ballots out there, it no longer really matters who votes for whom. They’ll make it work. They know how to fix things.

And presumably, if Biden wins, then it really doesn’t matter what’s on that laptop, right? All this will just go away. These are Democrats. They know how to fix things.

The owner of the computer repair shop made copies of Biden’s hard drive. He gave one to the FBI, and one to Rudy Giuliani, apparently. But he also gave two copies to friends, in case he happened to die for some reason. He knows exactly what he’s up against. These are Democrats. They know how to fix things.

Can you imagine what the news would be like if Jeffrey Epstein’s trial was going on right now? That would be very messy. These are Democrats. They know how to fix things.

What I’m getting at is that I don’t see how Biden can lose this election. Well, I don’t know how many people are actually going to vote for him, but I don’t think it matters. I don’t see how Biden can lose this election.

So I don’t understand why Obama decided to help Joe Biden all of a sudden. All this is just going to go away, right? Biden and Obama are Democrats, and thus untouchable, right? Who cares about some stupid laptop? In four months, the media will be focused on some group of camo-wearing idiots from Idaho or something, and all this will just go away.

I dunno. I could easily be over-reading this. But Obama has tended to remain distant from (and sometimes openly contemptuous of) Joe Biden. Why did he decide to become buddies all of a sudden?

Am I over-estimating the ability of Democrats to create fraudulent mail-in ballots? Do the Democrats have polling data that show a Trump landslide too large to cheat? Is it possible that prominent Democrats think they face real legal jeopardy from what’s on that laptop?

I just can’t believe that any of those things are true. But maybe, I guess.

Or am I missing something here?

What do you think?

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  1. Stad Thatcher

    Dr. Bastiat: What do you think?

    It’s the January 5th meeting in 2017. Obama was in on the scam, and he knows if Joe goes down, so does he. Okay, he won’t go to jail, but being cited as an “unindicted co-conspirator” to the greatest political scandal in this country is a legacy he has to avoid at all costs. How does this tie with Hunter and Burisma? Biden’s bragging about getting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired and the possible backing of Obama.

    I don’t know. Just the fact the FBI had this laptop for a long time bugs the cr*p out of me . . .

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    • October 18, 2020, at 1:22 PM PDT
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  2. Gary McVey Contributor
    Gary McVeyJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    What’s all of a sudden about it? Does anybody here have a moment’s doubt that Obama was always going to endorse the Democrat? Why? He was clearly unenthusiastic about Biden–well, who wouldn’t be–but Biden’s policies are just a photocopy of Obama’s, who has been saying good things about old Joe all summer, once he was the inevitable nominee. No conspiracy needed. 

    Bush didn’t endorse Trump because they hate each other, and because GWB knows his endorsement is electoral kryptonite. Other than that one case, when in recent memory hasn’t a former president supported the candidate of his own party? 

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    • October 18, 2020, at 1:29 PM PDT
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  3. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… Thatcher

    I think the reason Obama is hitting the campaign trail now is that the election is closer than many of the media are telling us.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 1:31 PM PDT
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  4. Mark Camp Member

    I have the same disturbing questions as you and no answers. Normally that would mean there is no justification for me replying. 

    But there may be others who have the same non-answer as I, and who do not want to waste everyone’s time as I am doing with this nonce of a comment. Well, now they can just use the Like button as the Ditto button, and we can all express our support for your search for answers with a single Comment.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 1:39 PM PDT
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  5. Goldgeller Member

    I think Biden wins this one even if Obama doesn’t show up. At the same time, if you are Obama, you’ve seen Trump erode your legacy and you have seen the woke left also start to go after your legacy. (One popular left argument is that Obama was too moderate and worked too much with conservatives.)

    So, if I’m Obama, I want to keep politics in the Democratic party around my consensus. Fix Obamacare but don’t throw it out. Do green stuff like in 2008 but don’t let something like the Green New Deal come in because it would encourage liberals to think I (Obama) lacked a real vision. 

    So… I hang out with Joe Biden and it is an implicit challenge to not be seen disagreeing with me publicly about major issues. It gives everyone cover during the election. And he has a way to keep his thumb on the scales. Internships for his daughters, perhaps a job for Michelle. 

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    • October 18, 2020, at 1:44 PM PDT
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  6. cdor Member
    cdorJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Let’s go real deep…actually not any further than our noses deep. Obama was a community organizer, State Senator, and US Senator for about a minute before he became President. After being President for 8 years at about $350K per year, he leaves office and buys a 12 million dollar home in Martha’s Vineyard and an 8 million dollar home in Georgetown. Do we need a calculator to add up the graft? He’s dirtier than Joe and a whole lot smarter. But after 8 years of the two of them filling their pockets, certainly the paths of greed had to cross.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 1:44 PM PDT
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  7. flownover Member

    The Clinton Foundation is all the proof you need that they can fix stuff. The mistake maybe the attempt to actually engage the voters in a mission that sends them out as crusaders for truth and such outdated ideas as patriotism and national identity. ….sigh

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    • October 18, 2020, at 1:49 PM PDT
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  8. Dr. Bastiat Member
    Dr. Bastiat

    cdor (View Comment):
    After being President for 8 years at about $350K per year, he leaves office and buys a 12 million dollar home in Martha’s Vineyard and an 8 million dollar home in Georgetown.

    He must work nights somewhere. Or perhaps he’s a very shrewd investor.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 1:51 PM PDT
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  9. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… Thatcher

    cdor (View Comment):

    Let’s go real deep…actually not any further than our noses deep. Obama was a community organizer, State Senator, and US Senator for about a minute before he became President. After being President for 8 years at about $350K per year, he leaves office and buys a 12 million dollar home in Martha’s Vineyard and an 8 million dollar home in Georgetown. Do we need a calculator to add up the graft? He’s dirtier than Joe and a whole lot smarter. But after 8 years of the two of them filling their pockets, certainly the paths of greed had to cross.

    The Obamas reportedly got a $65 million deal for their memoirs plus they got a juicy deal with Netflix. Obama also made a few million on royalties from Dreams From My Father, which became a best seller (though I think I am one of the few purchasers who actually read the book) when he became a candidate.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 1:52 PM PDT
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  10. Stad Thatcher

    Goldgeller (View Comment):
    if you are Obama, you’ve seen Trump erode your legacy

    I think we have the reason right here . . .

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    • October 18, 2020, at 1:53 PM PDT
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  11. PHCheese Member

    The courts are favoring Trump in some battle ground states on mail in ballots. Things may not be as in the bag as Democrats thought. The GOP I understand is closely going to watch the polling stations. Another wild card is the make up of the Senate and House post Election. With this hard drive Joe may be impeached shortly after his win if he does.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 1:53 PM PDT
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  12. Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw Member

    Goldgeller (View Comment):
    I think Biden wins this one even if Obama doesn’t show up.

    My tendency is to think that Obama’s support means he’s more likely to lose, because his endorsement for things that aren’t himself is basically the kiss of death.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 1:54 PM PDT
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  13. Percival Thatcher
    PercivalJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    I think the reason Obama is hitting the campaign trail now is that the election is closer than many of the media are telling us.

    If Trump gets re-elected, some Very Bad Things are going to come to light. Obama will be revealed to be either complicit in crimes, or an idiot.

    How could he not know what Slow Joe was doing?

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    • October 18, 2020, at 1:54 PM PDT
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  14. Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw Member

    Gary McVey (View Comment):
    What’s all of a sudden about it? Does anybody here have a moment’s doubt that Obama was always going to endorse the Democrat? Why? He was clearly unenthusiastic about Biden–well, who wouldn’t be–but Biden’s policies are just a photocopy of Obama’s, who has been saying good things about old Joe all summer, once he was the inevitable nominee. No conspiracy needed. 

    I’d say it’s more a case of timing. I don’t know that there needs to be a conspiracy about it, but for instance: if Biden is so far ahead in the polls, why do they even need to bother getting Obama out there now? If Obama believes in Joe so much, why did it take this long for him to actually campaign? (That one’s easy: he’s lazy.)

     

     

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    • October 18, 2020, at 1:59 PM PDT
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  15. Dr. Bastiat Member
    Dr. Bastiat

    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):
    if Biden is so far ahead in the polls, why do they even need to bother getting Obama out there now? If Obama believes in Joe so much, why did it take this long for him to actually campaign?

    Exactly.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 2:01 PM PDT
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  16. Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw Member

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):
    Obama also made a few million on royalties from Dreams From My Father, which became a best seller (though I think I am one of the few purchasers who actually read the book)

    I’m sorry.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 2:02 PM PDT
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  17. EODmom Coolidge

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    I think the reason Obama is hitting the campaign trail now is that the election is closer than many of the media are telling us.

    Has anyone actually seen him at an event? With actual people? I’ll believe it when he’s out in public speaking to a “crowd.” Seems still in the “some say it’s happening”stage. 

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    • October 18, 2020, at 2:04 PM PDT
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  18. Tex929rr Coolidge

    Biden was selected as VP because he was seen as harmless by BHO’s handlers. In addition, BHO is such a narcissist that no one could be seen as taking part in his decision making. Seriously, a guy who could say things BHO said over the years:

    “I think that I’m a better speechwriter than my speechwriters. I know more about policies on any particular issue than my policy directors. And I’ll tell you right now that I’m gonna think I’m a better political director than my political director.”

    and

    “this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal”

    Remember when GW Bush selected Dick Cheney as his running mate? Whatever you might think about Cheney he is a very serious guy and was going to add policy making strength to Bush’s team. (I remember a hilarious Rush Limbaugh show where he played clips of about 20 reporters speaking about Cheney’s “gravitas“. I think the had someone singing “ he needs gravitas” to the tune of “Felix Navidad”.)

    Instead, BHO selected a know plagiarist and grifter whose biggest qualification is that no one is ever in his shadow. My experience is that narcissists are often driven by serious self esteem problems, but I’m no shrink. I believe BHO wakes up at 3 AM worrying about his legacy.

    In conclusion, the Democratic Party leadership have no idea what to do about this. They thought no one would ever find out and it’s too late to change horses. Unless Uncle Joe suffers a sudden fatal MCI and doesn’t make to the ER in time.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 2:06 PM PDT
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  19. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… Thatcher

    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):
    Obama also made a few million on royalties from Dreams From My Father, which became a best seller (though I think I am one of the few purchasers who actually read the book)

    I’m sorry.

    It’s actually a good book. And if I hadn’t read it during the primary season I would not have known he was lying through his teeth when he made his Reverend Wright speech and threw his grandmother (the most admirable character in the book) under the bus.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 2:10 PM PDT
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  20. Fritz Coolidge

    OK, I’ll play:

    Obama might be campaigning more for the benefit of Kamala, as he views her as the presumptive President once Biden wins and then has to be turned out. Biden is past his sell by date, and Harris is a terrible campaigner, but as it seems imperative to Obama to preserve his legacy (and conceal his graft), Obama needs to maintain influence with Biden/Harris. In this regard, he is again competing with Hillary who was reportedly advising Harris back during the primary season.

    Just my speculation, but hey, it is 2020.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 2:17 PM PDT
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  21. Bob Thompson Member

    PHCheese (View Comment):

    The courts are favoring Trump in some battle ground states on mail in ballots. Things may not be as in the bag as Democrats thought. The GOP I understand is closely going to watch the polling stations. Another wild card is the make up of the Senate and House post Election. With this hard drive Joe may be impeached shortly after his win if he does.

    As stated the OP the Democrats have a lot of experience fixing election results to go their way but almost all their past success has been in what we call solid blue states today and they need more than that to win a national election. That does not mean they won’t fix elections in those blue states for the House and Senate but for POTUS that just runs up the Democrat popular vote but does not help Biden. Democrats will need new inroads fixing this election in battleground states and red states to help Biden and that will be a new experience in these states.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 2:27 PM PDT
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  22. cdor Member
    cdorJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    Let’s go real deep…actually not any further than our noses deep. Obama was a community organizer, State Senator, and US Senator for about a minute before he became President. After being President for 8 years at about $350K per year, he leaves office and buys a 12 million dollar home in Martha’s Vineyard and an 8 million dollar home in Georgetown. Do we need a calculator to add up the graft? He’s dirtier than Joe and a whole lot smarter. But after 8 years of the two of them filling their pockets, certainly the paths of greed had to cross.

    The Obamas reportedly got a $65 million deal for their memoirs plus they got a juicy deal with Netflix. Obama also made a few million on royalties from Dreams From My Father, which became a best seller (though I think I am one of the few purchasers who actually read the book) when he became a candidate.

    This is true and I was remiss to have not mentioned it. I have not seen any memoirs, but the deal with Netflix is at least equivalent to the Biden deals with Burisma and China, “somethin’ fer nothin'” is a politician’s means for living.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 2:36 PM PDT
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  23. Bob Thompson Member

    Recently benched player back in the game:

     

    Steve Bannon Behind ‘Roll-Out Plan’ For Hunter Biden Emails, Says ‘Multiple Stories From Multiple Media Sources’ About To Hit

     

     

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    • October 18, 2020, at 2:42 PM PDT
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  24. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… Thatcher

    cdor (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    Let’s go real deep…actually not any further than our noses deep. Obama was a community organizer, State Senator, and US Senator for about a minute before he became President. After being President for 8 years at about $350K per year, he leaves office and buys a 12 million dollar home in Martha’s Vineyard and an 8 million dollar home in Georgetown. Do we need a calculator to add up the graft? He’s dirtier than Joe and a whole lot smarter. But after 8 years of the two of them filling their pockets, certainly the paths of greed had to cross.

    The Obamas reportedly got a $65 million deal for their memoirs plus they got a juicy deal with Netflix. Obama also made a few million on royalties from Dreams From My Father, which became a best seller (though I think I am one of the few purchasers who actually read the book) when he became a candidate.

    This is true and I was remiss to have not mentioned it. I have not seen any memoirs, but the deal with Netflix is at least equivalent to the Biden deals with Burisma and China, “somethin’ fer nothin’” is a politician’s means for living.

    Between the media, high tech, and financial services industries there is an active network to keep current and former Democratic politicians financially comfortable. I view the Clintons and Bidens differently than the Obamas in that respect. The Clinton Foundation was a front to provide Bill & Hillary with a comfortable lifestyle while attracting tens of millions from Russian oligarchs as well as from companies who contributed because “you know she might be president some day” (I’m not speculating on that, I was present in a discussion in my company along those lines), while I think Biden was involved via his son in shady dealings both during and after his VP role. What the Obamas have done is cash in post-Presidency. I know of no evidence of direct financial graft during his presidency by him.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 2:43 PM PDT
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  25. Headedwest Coolidge

    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):
    After being President for 8 years at about $350K per year, he leaves office and buys a 12 million dollar home in Martha’s Vineyard and an 8 million dollar home in Georgetown.

    He must work nights somewhere. Or perhaps he’s a very shrewd investor.

    Cattle futures are the way to do it, I heard.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 2:44 PM PDT
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  26. Eustace C. Scrubb Member

    The Big O finally got around to reading these mystery novels and remembered what a great team he is with jOe.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 2:44 PM PDT
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  27. Bob Thompson Member

    Eustace C. Scrubb (View Comment):

    The Big O finally got around to reading these mystery novels and remembered what a great team he with jOe.

    Hope works for Trump now.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 2:45 PM PDT
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  28. Chris Oler Coolidge
    Chris OlerJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Dr. Bastiat: Am I over-estimating the ability of Democrats to create fraudulent mail-in ballots? Do the Democrats have polling data that show a Trump landslide too large to cheat? Is it possible that prominent Democrats think they face real legal jeopardy from what’s on that laptop?

    There has to be something about the fundamentals they’re seeing that indicates real jeopardy, just speaking in terms of the election, not criminal investigations. Because we are talking about a former President who, when he left office, left the infrastructure of the D party in shambles, and broke besides. That really is the only question because the secondary aim of making things go away doesn’t happen without first winning.

    And it is an indicator of something everyone here should already know: not only do conservative voters not identify themselves in polls, but the results are skewed in reporting. In my opinion, it’s an effort to depress the vote on the right. Problem is, I see nothing but enthusiasm (away from Ricochet). 

    I’ll add that I see Biden signs in yards that were bare 4 years ago, but these are not voters whose minds have changed. If you can stomach a Biden sign, chances are high you did not vote for Trump last time.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 2:55 PM PDT
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  29. Hang On Member
    Hang OnJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Obama’s track record when campaigning for other candidates isn’t that good. Biden is a comparative nebisch compared to Obama. So Biden should be worried about being overshadowed. Obama is a nonfactor.

    I don’t buy the stuffing the ballot box narrative.

    The problem with 538 is its part of the polling mafia that is used as a basis for fundraising with no basis in reality by skewing the model being used.

    I do buy the Biden corruption narrative because they are all about pay for play. They stink to high heaven.

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    • October 18, 2020, at 3:18 PM PDT
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  30. TreeRat Member

    Goldgeller (View Comment):
    (One popular left argument is that Obama was too moderate and worked too much with conservatives.)

    Harold Washington writ large?

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    • October 18, 2020, at 4:57 PM PDT
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