I Don’t Understand Obama’s Sudden Support for Joe Biden

 

Obama, Biden, and Biden, LLC

So the FBI had Hunter Biden’s laptop for about a year, and didn’t do anything with all that evidence. Ok, that makes sense. The FBI’s job is to investigate Republicans. There were no Republicans implicated in this evidence, so why would they pursue an investigation? Again, that makes perfect sense. But then, after that perfectly predictable beginning, some rather odd things started to happen.

A copy of the laptop’s hard drive falls into Republican hands a few weeks before the election. How fortuitous. And then there’s Barack Obama. He could have campaigned for Joe Biden during the primary, but he did not. He could have campaigned for him after Biden won the nomination, but he did not. But then Mr. Obama changed his mind, and decided to help Biden on the campaign trail. And he did so, I think, within a few days of the laptop evidence being exposed. One wonders what other evidence is on that laptop. I have no idea. But I suspect that Mr. Obama may have some idea.

This is all getting pretty weird.

I don’t see how the Democrats can lose a national election with mail-in ballots. With enough mail-in ballots out there, it no longer really matters who votes for whom. They’ll make it work. They know how to fix things.

And presumably, if Biden wins, then it really doesn’t matter what’s on that laptop, right? All this will just go away. These are Democrats. They know how to fix things.

The owner of the computer repair shop made copies of Biden’s hard drive. He gave one to the FBI, and one to Rudy Giuliani, apparently. But he also gave two copies to friends, in case he happened to die for some reason. He knows exactly what he’s up against. These are Democrats. They know how to fix things.

Can you imagine what the news would be like if Jeffrey Epstein’s trial was going on right now? That would be very messy. These are Democrats. They know how to fix things.

What I’m getting at is that I don’t see how Biden can lose this election. Well, I don’t know how many people are actually going to vote for him, but I don’t think it matters. I don’t see how Biden can lose this election.

So I don’t understand why Obama decided to help Joe Biden all of a sudden. All this is just going to go away, right? Biden and Obama are Democrats, and thus untouchable, right? Who cares about some stupid laptop? In four months, the media will be focused on some group of camo-wearing idiots from Idaho or something, and all this will just go away.

I dunno. I could easily be over-reading this. But Obama has tended to remain distant from (and sometimes openly contemptuous of) Joe Biden. Why did he decide to become buddies all of a sudden?

Am I over-estimating the ability of Democrats to create fraudulent mail-in ballots? Do the Democrats have polling data that show a Trump landslide too large to cheat? Is it possible that prominent Democrats think they face real legal jeopardy from what’s on that laptop?

I just can’t believe that any of those things are true. But maybe, I guess.

Or am I missing something here?

What do you think?

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  1. Goldgeller Member
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    TreeRat (View Comment):

    Goldgeller (View Comment):
    (One popular left argument is that Obama was too moderate and worked too much with conservatives.)

    Harold Washington writ large?

    I had to look it up but it seems like there are some parallels. I get there will always be people who want more extreme policies but for me it just seemed to be a huge shift in the discussion. Obama was “doing it!” He had the plan. He was the One. And then suddenly it was like “well the Republicans held him back, he wasn’t really that liberal.” 

    Obama wants to keep Biden and his crew closer to him than AOC and maybe even Harris. I don’t think there is anything portentous about Obama campaigning. Races tend to tighten a bit and Obama is willing to spare a couple of weeks in the spotlight, which he actually likes anyways. 

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  2. Flicker Coolidge
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    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    I think the reason Obama is hitting the campaign trail now is that the election is closer than many of the media are telling us.

    The democrats have programmed in a Trump win, because they have control of the ballot machine.  But if on election night Trump wins by a greater number of votes than will look realistic to fabricate afterwards, then the Dems are in trouble.  Thus the push.

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  3. James Gawron Inactive
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    Dr. Bastiat: Am I over-estimating the ability of Democrats to create fraudulent mail-in ballots? Do the Democrats have polling data that show a Trump landslide too large to cheat? Is it possible that prominent Democrats think they face real legal jeopardy from what’s on that laptop?

    Dr. Bastiat,

    Good questions. Pam Bondi also had some good questions back in January.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  4. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    Or… when the going gets weird

    How Long Has The U.S. Intelligence Apparatus Been Selecting Presidential Candidates?…

    One would have to be intellectually obtuse to think former President Barack Obama was unaware his Vice-President, Joe Biden, was raking in tens-of-millions from his use of Hunter Biden as family bagman while lobbying foreign governments.

    With that in mind; and considering all of the downstream consequences from the original selection of Joe Biden as the VP candidate; and considering how those in power now have the tool of the NSA database to control political offices; how long has the intelligence apparatus been involved in selecting the U.S. presidential candidates?

    And as people are suggesting, the growing new voter registration by the Trump operation is making Dems nervous. 

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1317911695902281729.html

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  5. Rodin Member
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    Dr. Bastiat: But Obama has tended to remain distant from (and sometimes openly contemptuous of) Joe Biden. Why did he decide to become buddies all of a sudden?

    Because all of the administration officials will be Obama operatives. This is Obama’s third term.

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  6. MarciN Member
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    I think Obama’s main objective is to get Trump out of office. Obama is also somewhat moderate (Michelle is far more radical). Obama was clear during the primaries that he didn’t like any of the Democratic Party primary candidates because he thought they were all too far left. His own candidate choice was his long-time dear friend Deval Patrick, who was late to enter the primaries and who lost spectacularly quickly. :-) As Democrats go, Deval Patrick is really moderate (after he left office, he joined the board of directors for Romney’s old company Bain Capital). Obama and Patrick are completely in sync in terms of policy positions. And Deval Patrick did not endorse Elizabeth Warren even though they hail from the same state because Warren was way too radical.

    Joe Biden has something Deval Patrick does not: name recognition and an association with the president who has been the most popular with Democrats in decades. I don’t think Obama sees Joe as a giant intellect. I always sensed that Obama looked down on both Biden and Hillary Clinton. I’ve always thought both were political payback choices. That said, he liked Joe, just didn’t trust him with any heavy lifting.

    I think Obama believes he can have his third term and get someone he can actually tolerate and work with in Joe Biden. And he thinks Joe Biden can beat Trump.

    I doubt the corruption charges worry Obama. Every time a Democrat is accused of something, the accused goes after the accuser. And that strategy works.

    In other words, I think Obama genuinely wants Joe to win, and I think others are right that Trump is looking a little more likely to win at this moment, despite the polls. Obama is trying to give a little extra push to the Biden campaign.

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  7. Instugator Thatcher
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    cdor (View Comment):
    After being President for 8 years at about $350K per year, he leaves office and buys a 12 million dollar home in Martha’s Vineyard and an 8 million dollar home in Georgetown. Do we need a calculator to add up the graft?

    He got a huge book advance, for which he has yet to write the book. Can’t be shady at all.

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  8. thelonious Member
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    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):

    Gary McVey (View Comment):
    What’s all of a sudden about it? Does anybody here have a moment’s doubt that Obama was always going to endorse the Democrat? Why? He was clearly unenthusiastic about Biden–well, who wouldn’t be–but Biden’s policies are just a photocopy of Obama’s, who has been saying good things about old Joe all summer, once he was the inevitable nominee. No conspiracy needed.

    I’d say it’s more a case of timing. I don’t know that there needs to be a conspiracy about it, but for instance: if Biden is so far ahead in the polls, why do they even need to bother getting Obama out there now? If Obama believes in Joe so much, why did it take this long for him to actually campaign? (That one’s easy: he’s lazy.)

     

     

    For Biden it’s all about turnout especially with African Americans.  He will probably need an Obama level turnout to win in  swing states.

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  9. Old Bathos Member
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    Don’t overthink it. Obama’s ego explains all.

    Obama did not want to go all-in too heavily before because he did not want to risk Biden being rejected and taking Obama’s image down with him nor did he want to offend the rising Communist wing of the Party with an early endorsement.  But he did not want to be blamed for not helping in the event that Biden lost either.  The late entry will, in his mind and his projected image, mean that (a) his intervention tipped the balance and Obama deserves credit for the win or (b) despite his best efforts, Biden was just a terrible candidate.

    I don’t think Obama fears any investigation.  There are too many hard lefties and polite Republicans entrenched in the FBI and DOJ for anything to ever come near Obama.  He understands that his side’s complete control over media and academic history-writers means nobody can touch him in any impactful way.

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  10. Hartmann von Aue Member
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):
    if Biden is so far ahead in the polls, why do they even need to bother getting Obama out there now? If Obama believes in Joe so much, why did it take this long for him to actually campaign?

    Exactly.

    Smacks of desperation, I would say. 

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  11. Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw Member
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    Instugator (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):
    After being President for 8 years at about $350K per year, he leaves office and buys a 12 million dollar home in Martha’s Vineyard and an 8 million dollar home in Georgetown. Do we need a calculator to add up the graft?

    He got a huge book advance, for which he has yet to write the book. Can’t be shady at all.

    I already said he’s lazy. The problem with Hanlon’s razor is that you can’t rule out malicious incompetence but I’m pretty sure it’s incompetence here.

    Saying that Michelle finished her book first because she had a ghost writer, that’s malicious. 

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  12. Instugator Thatcher
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    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):
    Saying that Michelle finished her book first because she had a ghost writer, that’s malicious. 

    Can’t be malicious if it is true.

    It is.

     

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  13. Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw Member
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    Instugator (View Comment):

    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):
    Saying that Michelle finished her book first because she had a ghost writer, that’s malicious.

    Can’t be malicious if it is true.

    It is.

    Where do you stand on it sounding like Obama being a whiny little  [CoC]?

     

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  14. Instugator Thatcher
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    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):

    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):
    Saying that Michelle finished her book first because she had a ghost writer, that’s malicious.

    Can’t be malicious if it is true.

    It is.

    Where do you stand on it sounding like the Obamas being a whiny little [CoC]s?

    I found a big mistake.

    You forgot to make it plural.

    FIFY btw.

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  15. Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw Member
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    Instugator (View Comment):

    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):

    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):
    Saying that Michelle finished her book first because she had a ghost writer, that’s malicious.

    Can’t be malicious if it is true.

    It is.

    Where do you stand on it sounding like the Obamas being a whiny little [CoC]s?

    I found a big mistake.

    You forgot to make it plural.

    FIFY btw.

    I was referring to the specific comment but I’ll accept the correction.

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  16. genferei Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):
    I think Obama believes he can have his third term

    That would be fourth term – given what the Deep State has done these last four years. 

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  17. The Reticulator Member
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):
    After being President for 8 years at about $350K per year, he leaves office and buys a 12 million dollar home in Martha’s Vineyard and an 8 million dollar home in Georgetown.

    He must work nights somewhere. Or perhaps he’s a very shrewd investor.

    Hillary Clinton was a shrewd investor. Maybe she passed on some pointers.

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  18. Mountie Coolidge
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    Laws are for little people. Nothing is going to happen. 

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  19. Instugator Thatcher
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    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):
    I was referring to the specific comment

    Love you, brother.

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  20. David Coolidge
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    cdor (View Comment):

    Let’s go real deep…actually not any further than our noses deep. Obama was a community organizer, State Senator, and US Senator for about a minute before he became President. After being President for 8 years at about $350K per year, he leaves office and buys a 12 million dollar home in Martha’s Vineyard and an 8 million dollar home in Georgetown. Do we need a calculator to add up the graft? He’s dirtier than Joe and a whole lot smarter. But after 8 years of the two of them filling their pockets, certainly the paths of greed had to cross.

    they are both part of the same puppet show with China pulling the strings among others…

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  21. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    It’s probably more than just one thing, but Barry’s been tepid in this race, in terms of support.  I know former presidents generally stay out of these things, and keep a lower profile, but he’s not that kind of guy.  He’s had plenty to say about Trump and policy in the years prior to 2020.  

    Barry loves him some Barry.  So it’s a bit odd that he hasn’t said much publicly, earlier in the race.  My assumption is that he thinks he can bolster support, in a lot of demographics, so why wouldn’t he, to get a democrat across the line?  Kamala helps in some cases, but hurts in others, since her track record of prosecutor doesn’t exactly make her a sparkling candidate in some circles.

    So:  Barry does some minimal effort lifting to support the campaign, can claim he did so later, and as others have noted, he’s covered either way on the outcome.

    Not necessarily a big thought effort on the above.  Granted.  I also think reading the tea leaves, which is hard not to do if you’re interested in this stuff, is an amusing waste of time.  We don’t influence or really understand what’s going on with 333 million people, nor the chowderheads running for office.  We can only infer by the tiny glimpses of them we’re allowed to see.

    The mask only slips on rare occasions.  Which is why Joe has been essentially put in a box, and why Barry never leaves his bedroom without a teleprompter securely mounted in front of his face so he can’t look like an idiot when someone asks him a question he hasn’t prepared for.

    We generally get what we deserve.  We’re getting it good and hard, again, and the country winds up fighting and arguing over the outcomes, to no good benefit to themselves.

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  22. Instugator Thatcher
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