Both Parties Are Laying Groundwork to Dispute the Election

 

The Democrats have sown discord and it threatens the Republic. They have not had a graceful concession since Carter lost. Think about that, for the last 40 years, when a Republican has won, the Democrats have refused a graceful concession. Indeed, they have used legal means to attack the win in 2000 and 2016. Kerry took until the next day to concede to Bush the second time.

Now, the Democrats are openly war gaming ways to avoid the loss, including demanding political concession on amending the Constitution to let Trump win. Their previous candidate for president is openly telling Biden not to concede under any circumstances.

And, there is an open plan, to say “Hey if Trump wins by a landslide on election night, don’t stop fighting, let the mail-in ballots come in, and then Biden will win.” They are telling us how they plan to steal the election. They are sowing the ground to dispute the election.

Now, Trump is having to respond. The Republicans are forced to point out what the Democrats are doing, and be ready to dispute what the Democrats are doing.

This is the fault of the Democrats. This is their doing. For the history of their party, they have always been the sore losers. They have always been the party of prosecution of their enemies. They are the party of succession. They are the party of the Trail of Tears, they are the party of Jim Crow, they are the party of the KKK. They are the party of riots, bloodshed, and refusal to lose at the ballot box. And now they threaten the Republic more than ever, except for when the walked so that they could keep other human beings in bondage.

Good job, Democrats.

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  1. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow
    @DrewInWisconsin

    I really think the polls are just media psyops, to either depress the Trump vote, or make it seem like a Trump victory is illegitimate.

    When they want to delegitimize his 2016 win, they had to act fast, and though it took four years, in the end we discovered just how fraudulent the whole Russian Collusion nonsense was (even if warmongering neocons still believe it). But they’ve had time to prepare for this one, so expect the delegitimization to be better managed.

    On the plus side, a lot of Swamp Dwellers have been removed. On the minus side, there are still too many of them.

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  2. Skyler Coolidge
    Skyler
    @Skyler

    I have a friend I’ve known since 1995 and never once have I heard him express an opinion about anything political until a month ago.  

    He’s very strongly pro-Trump now, and has been vocal about it.  I don’t think he’s going to be an outlier.

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  3. Miffed White Male Member
    Miffed White Male
    @MiffedWhiteMale

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    He’s behind. Badly.

    According to which polls?

    I mean, I may be entering Pauline Kael territory here, but the enthusiasm behind Trump’s reelection seems off the charts. I’ve never seen anything like it in my 55 years on this planet. Not even in 2016. So I find it hard to believe that Joe Biden stands a chance, because Trump rallies are huge, and Biden can’t fill a room with more than six reporters. Trump gets dozens of record-setting boat parades,

    . . . and Biden gets . . . a line of golf carts.

    They don’t weight votes by enthusiasm.

    Most everyone on this site was convinced Obama would lose in 2012.  Everyone hated him, there was all kinds of enthusiasm on the part of the Republicans to kick him out.  Sure, the polls showed that Obama was leading, but they were all skewed.

    How’d that work out for you?

     

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  4. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Most everyone on this site was convinced Obama would lose in 2012. Everyone hated him, there was all kinds of enthusiasm on the part of the Republicans to kick him out. Sure, the polls showed that Obama was leading, but they were all skewed.

    How’d that work out for you?

    Republicans on this site swore up and down they’d never vote for Trump. Hillary was supposed to win easily. How’d that work out for her?

    So what I’m sayin’ is, at this point, polls are meaningless, except for the purpose of setting the narrative. And that’s what the media is using them for.

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  5. Skyler Coolidge
    Skyler
    @Skyler

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    He’s behind. Badly.

    According to which polls?

    I mean, I may be entering Pauline Kael territory here, but the enthusiasm behind Trump’s reelection seems off the charts. I’ve never seen anything like it in my 55 years on this planet. Not even in 2016. So I find it hard to believe that Joe Biden stands a chance, because Trump rallies are huge, and Biden can’t fill a room with more than six reporters. Trump gets dozens of record-setting boat parades,

    . . . and Biden gets . . . a line of golf carts.

    They don’t weight votes by enthusiasm.

    Most everyone on this site was convinced Obama would lose in 2012. Everyone hated him, there was all kinds of enthusiasm on the part of the Republicans to kick him out. Sure, the polls showed that Obama was leading, but they were all skewed.

    How’d that work out for you?

     

    Who expected Obama to lose?  Against McCain?  After he dropped out and acted like such an ass a couple weeks before the election?  The only time he looked good was when Palin was talking.  Then he shoved her aside.

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  6. Miffed White Male Member
    Miffed White Male
    @MiffedWhiteMale

    Skyler (View Comment):

    They don’t weight votes by enthusiasm.

    Most everyone on this site was convinced Obama would lose in 2012. Everyone hated him, there was all kinds of enthusiasm on the part of the Republicans to kick him out. Sure, the polls showed that Obama was leading, but they were all skewed.

    How’d that work out for you?

     

    Who expected Obama to lose? Against McCain? After he dropped out and acted like such an ass a couple weeks before the election? The only time he looked good was when Palin was talking. Then he shoved her aside.

     

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  7. Flicker Coolidge
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    @Flicker

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    He’s behind. Badly.

    According to which polls?

    I mean, I may be entering Pauline Kael territory here, but the enthusiasm behind Trump’s reelection seems off the charts. I’ve never seen anything like it in my 55 years on this planet. Not even in 2016. So I find it hard to believe that Joe Biden stands a chance, because Trump rallies are huge, and Biden can’t fill a room with more than six reporters. Trump gets dozens of record-setting boat parades,

    . . . and Biden gets . . . a line of golf carts.

    They don’t weight votes by enthusiasm.

    Most everyone on this site was convinced Obama would lose in 2012. Everyone hated him, there was all kinds of enthusiasm on the part of the Republicans to kick him out. Sure, the polls showed that Obama was leading, but they were all skewed.

    How’d that work out for you?

    I wasn’t on R> in 2012, but i certainly didn’t think Romney had more than the slimmest chance of winning.

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  8. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
    Fake John/Jane Galt
    @FakeJohnJaneGalt

    I wish somebody would explain how there is a path for Trump to win?  I just don’t see it.

    • #38
  9. Flicker Coolidge
    Flicker
    @Flicker

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    I wish somebody would explain how there is a path for Trump to win? I just don’t see it.

    Well, you can start by voting for him.

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  10. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    I wish somebody would explain how there is a path for Trump to win? I just don’t see it.

    He gets more votes. That’s how.

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  11. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
    Fake John/Jane Galt
    @FakeJohnJaneGalt

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    I wish somebody would explain how there is a path for Trump to win? I just don’t see it.

    He gets more votes. That’s how.

    A bit naive.  A Democrat government counts the votes.  The workers of those government are unionized and big supporters of the Democrats. The massive mailings will be done by the USPS a Democrat organization with Democrats union workers. Not sure how many of those ballots will get to Republicans or back from Republicans.  Any irregularities will be ignored by the Democrat press and not looked into by the Democrat law enforcement agencies.  Given that a Trump vote will most likely be recorded, noted and Some sort of penalties incurred.
    Not sure I see a path with that overhead.

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  12. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    I wish somebody would explain how there is a path for Trump to win? I just don’t see it.

    He gets more votes. That’s how.

    A bit naive. A Democrat government counts the votes. The workers of those government are unionized and big supporters of the Democrats. The massive mailings will be done by the USPS a Democrat organization with Democrats union workers. Not sure how many of those ballots will get to Republicans or back from Republicans. Any irregularities will be ignored by the Democrat press and not looked into by the Democrat law enforcement agencies. Given that a Trump vote will most likely be recorded, noted and Some sort of penalties incurred.
    Not sure I see a path with that overhead.

    This is why it’s important for the Republican Party to get off its ass for a change and fight. We’ll see this year whether they really have it in them to fight, because frankly, they never have before.

    The Party also needs to punish any Republican who works for the Democrats. For example, Romney should be removed from every committee. He should be reduced to a seat-warmer and nothing else.

    • #42
  13. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
    Fake John/Jane Galt
    @FakeJohnJaneGalt

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    I wish somebody would explain how there is a path for Trump to win? I just don’t see it.

    He gets more votes. That’s how.

    A bit naive. A Democrat government counts the votes. The workers of those government are unionized and big supporters of the Democrats. The massive mailings will be done by the USPS a Democrat organization with Democrats union workers. Not sure how many of those ballots will get to Republicans or back from Republicans. Any irregularities will be ignored by the Democrat press and not looked into by the Democrat law enforcement agencies. Given that a Trump vote will most likely be recorded, noted and Some sort of penalties incurred.
    Not sure I see a path with that overhead.

    This is why it’s important for the Republican Party to get off its ass for a change and fight. We’ll see this year whether they really have it in them to fight, because frankly, they never have before.

    The Party also needs to punish any Republican who works for the Democrats. For example, Romney should be removed from every committee. He should be reduced to a seat-warmer and nothing else.

    Except from what I can tell Romney is the heart of the Republican Party, which views itself as the junior Party and prefers for its elite to eat the scraps of the Democrats table.

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  14. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    This is why it’s important for the Republican Party to get off its ass for a change and fight. We’ll see this year whether they really have it in them to fight, because frankly, they never have before.

    The Party also needs to punish any Republican who works for the Democrats. For example, Romney should be removed from every committee. He should be reduced to a seat-warmer and nothing else.

    Except from what I can tell Romney is the heart of the Republican Party, which views itself as the junior Party and prefers for its elite to eat the scraps of the Democrats table.

    Romney and his fans will tell you that he represents the True Conservative Republican Party. But I think most conservatives understand this is blatantly false. The “conservatives” who retired because they were too prissy to work with the President — we’re glad they’re gone. They were never really conservative to begin with. And if that means that the GOP is remaking itself as the Trump Party — well, heck, I see that as a positive thing. A party that actually wants to get things done and move the country in a conservative direction, rather than a party that only gives lip-service to conservatism while bending over for the Democrats at every opportunity.

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  15. Judge Mental Member
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    @JudgeMental

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    This is why it’s important for the Republican Party to get off its ass for a change and fight. We’ll see this year whether they really have it in them to fight, because frankly, they never have before.

    The Party also needs to punish any Republican who works for the Democrats. For example, Romney should be removed from every committee. He should be reduced to a seat-warmer and nothing else.

    Except from what I can tell Romney is the heart of the Republican Party, which views itself as the junior Party and prefers for its elite to eat the scraps of the Democrats table.

    Romney and his fans will tell you that he represents the True Conservative Republican Party. But I think most conservatives understand this is blatantly false. The “conservatives” who retired because they were too prissy to work with the President — we’re glad they’re gone. They were never really conservative to begin with. And if that means that the GOP is remaking itself as the Trump Party — well, heck, I see that as a positive thing. A party that actually wants to get things done and move the country in a conservative direction, rather than a party that only gives lip-service to conservatism while bending over for the Democrats at every opportunity.

    Or the short version: the Republican Party sees him as the heart; the Republican voters do not.

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  16. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Judge Mental (View Comment):

    Or the short version: the Republican Party sees him as the heart; the Republican voters do not.

    But I think the Party itself might be shifting Trumpwards. Which gives the NeverTrump Neocon Warmonger Dem-lite Donor Class the screaming ooperzootics, and causes them to say stupid things like Trump is destroying the Republican Party! What they don’t realize is that they’ve been destroying it for years. The Republican Party was already on life support. Then Trump revived it.

    • #46
  17. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens
    @BryanGStephens

    I think they are going to steal it

    • #47
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