Sigh. I should have known….

 

From my online course, in the first “Discussion forum” section. Slightly edited to protect the privacy of the teacher. (I deleted her sample answers)

This will be the only discussion in which you will not be graded on how well you back up your opinions with information from our readings. Therefore, there are no right answers here. What you will be graded on is how thoroughly you try to engage, and how respectfully you respond to others. Importantly, this introduction post is optional for 1% extra credit. This will be the only extra credit opportunity offered throughout the semester and I do not bump up grades that are close to the cut off because I offer this opportunity. I would strongly advise taking advantage of this early extra credit opportunity in case you need it later to move from a 79% to a 80%, for example.

First, I’d like to start off with introductions. So please introduce yourself to the class! Some points you may want to discuss include:

  • Where you are from 
  • Your preferred name 
  • Your year attending [COLLEGE]
  • Your major 
  • Why you are taking this course 
  • Fun facts 

Next, I’d like you to talk a little bit about privilege, and what your areas of privilege are. This is also in the interest of getting to know a little about the context of our class. We all have areas of privilege (e.g., white privilege, male privilege, able-bodied privilege, etc.) It is important that we are aware of our own sources of privilege, and how they affect the way we interact with the world. For example, in the context of this class, I have educational privilege. That means, in this situation, that the material we read is familiar to me, and the academic style of writing is fairly easy to understand. I don’t have the added burden of trying to get used to a new format of the way information is presented in order to understand that information. Me being aware of my educational privilege helps me to engage with others in a more useful way, instead of assuming that my experiences are the same as everyone else’s, and therefore our reactions to our experiences should be, too.

Why is this important, and what does it have to do with developmental psychology? Let me be clear: the purpose of this is NOT to make us all feel guilty about our privilege; that wouldn’t be useful. Rather, the purpose is that we start each conversation from a place of awareness, which breeds understanding and compassion. We are going to be debating some potentially heated topics in this course. It is REQUIRED that we ALL engage with one another respectfully. I will ask each of you to try and see others’ perspectives, while arguing for your own (in other words, it’s not an “either/or” type of scenario; refusing to look objectively at the other side does not show strength in your argument).

So I have a few options here.

  1. I can skip the optional post and the opportunity for extra credit. Probably the wisest option.
  2. Post some vague word-salad about advantages in life that I am grateful for, and that others might not have (Which is I think what the question is really getting at, albeit in a very “Woke” manner.)
  3. Post about my philosophy of “Privilege.” Not that I have a fully fleshed out philosophy there, but I can at least say that I am a sinful human, who, from my state of depravity, is likely to treat those who are different from her negatively. 
  4. Drop the class and find another online course. (Inconvenient, if not quite difficult, at this point.)

The assignment is due at midnight on Monday.

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  1. Acook Coolidge
    Acook
    @Acook

    Perhaps you could say you have the incredible privilege of having been born in the United States of America, the greatest nation the world has ever known. That would probably trigger a lot of the class but it’s very true. A lot of the rest of the world wish they had that. I recall realizing how lucky I was to have that privilege as early as the age of 9, but then this was in 1959, a whole different era. And I don’t think I associated it with the term “privilege.”  

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  2. Dill Inactive
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    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    Dill (View Comment): Yeah, the idea of reflecting on your perspectives and biases is definitely a good idea. But if I quietly do this assignment, should I do the next? Where do I draw the line, when it comes to the SJW stuff?

    If and when an assignment requires you to speak untruths, then abort or push back. Until then, tiptoe around the landmines and try to reframe the discussion in ways that don’t require you to accept the SJWs’ premises. This tactic got me through graduate school.

    This matches up well with my thoughts on civil disobedience. Don’t “Cry wolf” and civilly disobey whenever you feel you can get away with it. Instead, wait until things get unacceptable and then push back as swiftly and strongly as possible. 

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  3. Dill Inactive
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    Instugator (View Comment):

    I would be honest and express my difficulty with the word “Privilege” in the context that she gives.

    For example, the word privilege has specific meaning in the legal realm

    “A privilege is a certain entitlement to immunity granted by the state or another authority to a restricted group, either by birth or on a conditional basis. … By contrast, a right is an inherent, irrevocable entitlement held by all citizens or all human beings from the moment of birth.”

    Which somehow describes that driving is a privilege (issued at the sufferance of the state and can be taken by them for just any reason or none at all) and somehow not a restricted right (like the restriction on freedom of speech to not engage in yelling fire in a crowded theater).

    In all truth, I have no idea what your professor means when she uses the word privilege as opposed to random advantage or divine providence, depending on your religious worldview. (Also, I have no idea what is the special meaning of the word fellowship is in a Christian setting – the academic setting, I understand – the church’s overuse of the word, I do not.)

    The left’s use of the concept of privilege to describe the world might as well be called statistics, although their use in projecting the circumstances of each person they meet is completely wrong.

    Take a Caucasian man, aged 20 with a job working on a ship. Generally lots of privilege there, unless you are John Newton in 1745 and the ship’s name is Pegasus. Then you are bound to be a slave in Africa. From which you will not be rescued for 3 years.

    The privilege game doesn’t work.

    I had no idea that legal definition existed! Thank you!

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  4. Dill Inactive
    Dill
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    Acook (View Comment):

    Perhaps you could say you have the incredible privilege of having been born in the United States of America, the greatest nation the world has ever known. That would probably trigger a lot of the class but it’s very true. A lot of the rest of the world wish they had that. I recall realizing how lucky I was to have that privilege as early as the age of 9, but then this was in 1959, a whole different era. And I don’t think I associated it with the term “privilege.”

    True!

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  5. Dill Inactive
    Dill
    @Dill

    Acook (View Comment):

    Perhaps you could say you have the incredible privilege of having been born in the United States of America, the greatest nation the world has ever known. That would probably trigger a lot of the class but it’s very true. A lot of the rest of the world wish they had that. I recall realizing how lucky I was to have that privilege as early as the age of 9, but then this was in 1959, a whole different era. And I don’t think I associated it with the term “privilege.”

    Good point!

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  6. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Dill (View Comment):
    Many don’t wear helmets, they are unpredictable in their movements, and generally just a nuisance in a town not originally built for cycling.

    I read Cycle magazine back in the 70’s.  Their position on helmets was that they were against helmet laws but that anyone who didn’t wear one didn’t have a brain to protect anyway.

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  7. Gossamer Cat Coolidge
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    Dill (View Comment):

    You have a good point. But why involve the word “privilege” at all? Why even go through the motions? In my developmental psych course, there were many discussions involving people’s different backgrounds and values, and a sense of “Respect others’ perspective” without any such discussion.

    I’m worried this will bring on other weird discussions, too. But (as @sawatdeeka pointed out) maybe she had to do this, and this was the best thing she could get away with.

    I wish she hadn’t used privilege;  my defenses go up reflexively when I hear it and you are right to be annoyed by it.  I was just noting that other than the use of that word, what she was trying to achieve was quite reasonable.  The real test is whether she truly wants open debate.  If you do take the class, let us know.

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  8. Dill Inactive
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    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    Dill (View Comment):

    You have a good point. But why involve the word “privilege” at all? Why even go through the motions? In my developmental psych course, there were many discussions involving people’s different backgrounds and values, and a sense of “Respect others’ perspective” without any such discussion.

    I’m worried this will bring on other weird discussions, too. But (as @sawatdeeka pointed out) maybe she had to do this, and this was the best thing she could get away with.

    I wish she hadn’t used privilege; my defenses go up reflexively when I hear it and you are right to be annoyed by it. I was just noting that other than the use of that word, what she was trying to achieve was quite reasonable. The real test is whether she truly wants open debate. If you do take the class, let us know.

    I shall keep you updated.

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  9. Zafar Member
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    Dill (View Comment):
    Yeah, the idea of reflecting on your perspectives and biases is definitely a good idea. But if I quietly do this assignment, should I do the next? Where do I draw the line, when it comes to the SJW stuff? 

    What is your purpose in taking this course?

    The instructor and other students will have some points of view that you agree with, and some that you disagree with.

    I don’t see disagreement as a deal breaker in most cases, but you seem to be assuming that it’s going to inevitably come to that for you in this class. Must it?

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  10. Freeven Member
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    I’d begin by crossing out every instance of the word privilege and substituting the word blessing. Then I’d proceed in this manner:

    I am blessed to have been born and raised in a country that prizes freedom and draws its values from the judeo-christian tradition;

    I am blessed to have been raised in a traditional family, with both a mother and a father;

    I am blessed that my parents choose to stay off of drugs and out of jail;

    I am blessed that my parents chose to marry before starting a family;

    I am blessed that my father chose to show up to work every day to support his family;

    I am blessed that my mother chose to be a stay-at-home mom;

    And so on..

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  11. GrannyDude Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Dill (View Comment):

    I also don’t have an issue with telling people about my unearned advantages. But we should at least be honest about intent–is this an exercise in gratefulness? Or in confession? Either way, I don’t mind. But I want to be clear about what I am saying.

    The wording seems to be about awareness? Which makes sense if it’s a psychology course.

    The example she gives, educational privilege, seems to hinge on that (but is also a little condescending? which is another thing to be conscious of I guess).

    The whole exercise might be hideous, but it might also be an interesting thing to think about.

    (I mean, is awareness of one’s own privilege really that awful a thing? Seems like it could be used for a number of outcomes that you decide on, like humility or loving kindness or being a better clinician or…??)

    Rolling one’s eyes and going in grumpy is something that is okay on Ricochet, but this is a course you’re doing, and this assignment could be useful to you. If you can approach it more openly to enjoy it, or to succeed with it, then why not?

    (I’m aware that this is completely unsolicited advice – I guess that’s my Older Male Indian Privilege surging through there – please ignore if unwelcome.)

     

    The problem I have is the word “privilege.” It’s a stupid word. For one thing, it doesn’t carry with it the implication of responsibility. Were you and I walking down the street together, Zafar, and some menacing person came along, your “male privilege” would swiftly translate into a responsibility to protect me. 

    Having said that, I agree that this is framed by the professor in a way that makes it a reasonable exercise, especially in a course aimed at those interested in working directly with human beings and their problems (in an engineering course, it would be a mere waste of time).  When doing such work, it is, indeed,  important to be aware of your own “stuff,” so as to either harness it to the goal of helping or getting it out of the way. 

    I could, for example, say that having been widowed suddenly at a young age grants me at least some insight and credibility when it comes to sudden loss, an “advantage” in my job, but hardly a “privilege.”   But I had to learn how, if and when to use it. I’d say the same is true of my other advantages. There are certainly times in my life when it is useful to be a white, well-educated woman with a large vocabulary…unfortunately, these are not as common as I might wish ( that “every problem is a nail” thing has arisen more times than I care to admit). 

    The “educational privilege” the instructor speaks of is not unearned—I assume she would say she worked hard to be where she is and to know what she knows. What she is really describing is a power differential, one of the many quotidian, inevitable, necessary and almost always benign imbalances in power that we all dance through every day.  The educated teacher’s power over the ignorant pupil, like the healthy doctor’s power over the sick patient, the mechanic’s power over the owner of a broken car, or the non-bereaved chaplain over the frantic parent of a missing child, could serve to illustrate the legitimate use of power.  The teacher will deploy the sum total of her blessings, earned advantages and “privileges” if any and experience  on behalf of those who don’t (yet) have it. By the end of the semester, she will presumably have transferred at least some of her “privilege” to the students. 

     

     

     

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  12. GrannyDude Member
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    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    At some point in the last decade, “count your blessings” became “check your privilege.”

    What’s the difference between the two sayings? One is designed to inculcate gratitude, and the other is intended to instill shame.

    Yes! Exactly! 

    “Count your blessings”  also encourages one to be a blessing to other people. “Check your privilege” just means “shut up.”  One is creative and expansive, the other is a destructive pinch. 

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  13. Zafar Member
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    GrannyDude (View Comment):
    The problem I have is the word “privilege.” It’s a stupid word. For one thing, it doesn’t carry with it the implication of responsibility. Were you and I walking down the street together, Zafar, and some menacing person came along, your “male privilege” would swiftly translate into a responsibility to protect me. 

    Then we’d both be in trouble, but I would do my best for you GD, I promise.  And yes, I agree that meaningful privilege comes (should come) linked with meaningful responsibility. (So I think privilege does have that implication. Noblesse oblige etc.)

    Re: Dill’s issue – I guess I’m really coming at it from the point of view that a young person is going into a course, and framing it as a political argument before the course has even begun doesn’t seem like the best approach to take for her to achieve the educational outcomes she might wish for.  Everything doesn’t have to be an argument, does it? Sometimes it’s better to be generous hearted in how we deal with people.

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  14. Miffed White Male Member
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    Dill (View Comment):

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    Dill: Why is this important, and what does it have to do with developmental psychology? Let me be clear: the purpose of this is NOT to make us all feel guilty about our privilege; that wouldn’t be useful. Rather, the purpose is that we start each conversation from a place of awareness, which breeds understanding and compassion. We are going to be debating some potentially heated topics in this course. It is REQUIRED that we ALL engage with one another respectfully. I will ask each of you to try and see others’ perspectives, while arguing for your own (in other words, it’s not an “either/or” type of scenario; refusing to look objectively at the other side does not show strength in your argument).

    Umm, I have to say that compared to most of the nonsense emanating from the Academy, this one is actually rather benign. If the wording were different, it might even be somewhat laudatory. My argument:

    1. Learning how to engage with others respectfully is woefully under-taught and yet sorely needed. Ricochet is a testament to what respectful conservations can be like.
    2. She is clear that privilege is not to be a source of guilt. Rather, this exercise is designed to make one reflect on ones own life experience. It is a least a small consolation that she didn’t stop with racial privilege. She gets a lot of demerits for mentioning it at all. But if she hadn’t used the word “privilege” – one of my surefire triggers- and instead had said something like: Say what you are grateful for in your life and how it has made you what you are today. Consider how your experiences shape your current views when responding to someone who disagrees-then I would be all for it.
    3. She admits that the conversation will get heated because there will be controversial topics and she is asking for students to see other’s perspectives. That’s refreshing and a bit of a throwback. She is not shying away from these conversations like many professors. I’m sure she will be brought up on charges by some snowflake who will claim that they feel unsafe. So it is actually just a little brave that she is doing this at all.

    You have a good point. But why involve the word “privilege” at all? Why even go through the motions? In my developmental psych course, there were many discussions involving people’s different backgrounds and values, and a sense of “Respect others’ perspective” without any such discussion.

    I’m worried this will bring on other weird discussions, too. But (as @sawatdeeka pointed out) maybe she had to do this, and this was the best thing she could get away with.

    A better word than “privilege” for her “educational privilege” example would be “experience” – in the “I’ve already been exposed to it” sense, not in the <race/sex/life-lived” sense.

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  15. Miffed White Male Member
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    @MiffedWhiteMale

    Dill: Why is this important, and what does it have to do with developmental psychology? Let me be clear: the purpose of this is NOT to make us all feel guilty about our privilege; that wouldn’t be useful. Rather, the purpose is that we start each conversation from a place of awareness, which breeds understanding and compassion. We are going to be debating some potentially heated topics in this course. It is REQUIRED that we ALL engage with one another respectfully. I will ask each of you to try and see others’ perspectives, while arguing for your own (in other words, it’s not an “either/or” type of scenario; refusing to look objectively at the other side does not show strength in your argument).

    If she means it, then you have nothing to worry about when you reply with your option #3.

    If she doesn’t mean it, better to find out early while you can still exercise your option #4.

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  16. Freeven Member
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    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    At some point in the last decade, “count your blessings” became “check your privilege.”

    What’s the difference between the two sayings? One is designed to inculcate gratitude, and the other is intended to instill shame.

    Excellent.

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  17. David Foster Member
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    It seems a benign discussion as long as the professor does not edict that only the SJW categories of ‘privilege’…white race, male gender, etc…may be used.  It might even be useful for members of groups which the SJWs consider as ‘oppressed’ to think about the ‘privileges’ that they do in fact have (although I agree that the term ‘blessings’ would be better than ‘privileges’)

     

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  18. Richard Fulmer Inactive
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    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):
    Umm, I have to say that compared to most of the nonsense emanating from the Academy, this one is actually rather benign. If the wording were different, it might even be somewhat laudatory.

    Agreed.  The word “privilege” is loaded (as is the word “fragile” as in “white fragility”).  But, the instructor may be trying to navigate within the confines of the current academic mindset.   Her explanation does sound as if she’s trying to take to edge off the term as best she can.

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  19. Richard Fulmer Inactive
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    Acook (View Comment):

    Perhaps you could say you have the incredible privilege of having been born in the United States of America, the greatest nation the world has ever known. That would probably trigger a lot of the class but it’s very true. A lot of the rest of the world wish they had that. I recall realizing how lucky I was to have that privilege as early as the age of 9, but then this was in 1959, a whole different era. And I don’t think I associated it with the term “privilege.”

    Here are a couple of Wikipedia links:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/median-income-by-country

    I went through the exercise of combining both lists into a single spreadsheet (if anyone would like a copy, send me a private message).  It turns out that the median household income for every American ethnicity is higher than the median household income in that ethnicity’s home country. For some countries, the gain is modest.  For others its astronomical.  

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  20. Flicker Coolidge
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    Dill: able-bodied privilege

    Yes, the use of the word “privilege” is what would make this course problematic for me, and the presumptions behind the use and misuse of the word.  They say that driving a car is a privilege.  Rights you are born with but a privilege is granted by an authority.  But being born physically healthy is a privilege?  Being able to walk and lift fifty pounds is a privilege?  Who granted this privilege?  Being born male is a privilege?!  Okay, I’ll give you that one.

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  21. Jan Bear Inactive
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio&hellip; (View Comment):
    So I know that the entire “privilege” narrative is the tool of a malicious cabal bent on intimidating decent people into accepting its lies, in the service of their own power.

    Remember: “Humankind cannot bear very much reality.” (T.S. Eliot)

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  22. dukenaltum Inactive
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    From my experience you should:

    Drop the class and find another online course.

    Giving a Teacher the benefit of the doubt and hoping for the best after such a clear if subdued political demarcation in the course description never works out.  The teacher will punish viciously for your even slight deviation from her opinion.  

    College is a credential mill where your GPA counts more than your acquired wisdom and knowledge.  Boost your GPA at the cost of your learning. 

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  23. Cato Rand Inactive
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    Two thoughts:

    1. You don’t say what the course is.  If it’s called “Wokeness 101” or some version of victim studies, I’m not sure you’ve got any grounds to complain.  If it’s physics or calculus or some hard subject, you should probably drop the class and find another instructor.  If it’s some softer subject to which this exercise might bear some relevance, it’s a harder question.  
    2. I actually think this instructor sounds like s/he’s approached the subject in a not entirely offensive or ridiculous way.  The word “privilege” is like fingernails on a blackboard to a lot of people, me included.  It’s just so freighted with so much victimology BS.  But when you changed it to your “advantages” – which is really pretty much a synonym for “privilege” – the whole thing is a lot easier to swallow because the term doesn’t have so much baggage.  We do all bring the advantages and disadvantages of our backgrounds to our endeavors and there’s probably some value is understanding the differences – in both quantity and variety – in our respective allotments if we’re going to engage in dialogue.  If it were me, I might be inclined to take a cue from the instructor’s acknowledgement that his/her education is one of the advantages that s/he brings to the class and write an essay that focused entirely on my own genuine advantages and disadvantages, ignoring entirely the woke victim class nonsense.  I’d start with “I was born in the United States of America in the 20th century which puts me among the most advantaged humans ever to exist on this planet,” and then work from there.  Your faith, the support of your parents and family, the work ethic you were taught, or any number of other things might be fruitful subjects for this essay.  Maybe even, “I’ve always thought myself good looking” or “learning came easy to me” or “athletics came easy to me” or “I’ve got a friendly disposition and make friends easily” or whatever it is for you.
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  24. Kervinlee Inactive
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    How tiresome. Is this struggle session on offer from a college or a psychiatric ward?

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  25. GrannyDude Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):
    Then we’d both be in trouble, but I would do my best for you GD, I promise.

    I know you would, Zafar.  And I’d back you up!  

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  26. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge
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    It would be so much fun if 99% of the students in this class wrote a big X across the paper (or a digital crossing out of all the words) and then added:

    “Why should you offer us any assignments at all!

    “We are sick of your teacher privilege! And it scares us when you use authority granted by your teacher privilege to have the gall to offer us 1% extra credit or to even think of grading us.

    “Also we are forming  a committee to look into ways that your salary, which comes to you via your teacher privilege, could stop coming to you. Instead the salary monies could be distributed equally among the students you teach. That way we can spend all our time engaged in peaceful protests, rather than wasting our lives dealing with know-it-alls like you!”

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  27. Rodin Member
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    Dill:

    From my online course….

    [T]here are no right answers here. What you will be graded on is how thoroughly you try to engage, and how respectfully you respond to others. 

    ***

    I’d like you to talk a little bit about privilege, and what your areas of privilege are. This is also in the interest of getting to know a little about the context of our class. We all have areas of privilege (e.g., white privilege, male privilege, able-bodied privilege, etc.) It is important that we are aware of our own sources of privilege, and how they affect the way we interact with the world.

    So I have a few options here.

    1. I can skip the optional post and the opportunity for extra credit. Probably the wisest option.
    2. Post some vague word-salad about advantages in life that I am grateful for, and that others might not have (Which is I think what the question is really getting at, albeit in a very “Woke” manner.)
    3. Post about my philosophy of “Privilege.” Not that I have a fully fleshed out philosophy there, but I can at least say that I am a sinful human, who, from my state of depravity, is likely to treat those who are different from her negatively.
    4. Drop the class and find another online course. (Inconvenient, if not quite difficult, at this point.)

    While #1 is wisest it sounds like this won’t be the only test of your analytical approach and its likely conflict with the instructor, so you may need any point you can get. Taking “no right answers” at face value would be foolish. Word salad is dangerous unless you know the instructor’s own preferred set of word salad and probable arguments to support it if challenged. Reframing “privilege” to your own thinking and away from “woke” is the most intellectually honest and insightful, and would be the right answer if “no rights answers” was truly an honest statement. But with the “woke” that is a perilous course. Dropping is the best strategy if you aren’t just substituting one “woke” trap for another.

    One strategy for discussing your own philosophy of privilege is to attack it as a query. That is, something like “Privilege is an important but confusing concept. Is…privilege? Is … privilege? Can someone who does not … be privileged? Is privilege simply a way of …?” Outlining important analytical issues for defining privilege and applying it to human interaction demonstrates thought and perception. If you outline honest concerns about how the phenomena is to be described and applied to policies in employment, education, and interpersonal relationships, you could be accepted at face value as a “seeker” whom the instructor can instruct. That does not put you in opposition to the instructor and make him/her defensive. Yes, its a metrosexual move but it might be the best strategy if you need the extra credit and dropping the class doesn’t just leave you with better options.

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  28. Fritz Coolidge
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    Despite how benign this instructor’s parameters sound, I’d take her up on the opportunity to skip the assignment, or maybe just do the exercise honestly with yourself for the value that reflection might possibly have.

    I’d avoid posting, though. Posting just presents a target to be aimed at by others, whose diatribes against the least woke respondents will be for them like “counting coup” in their never-ending struggle against normal people.

    My two cents.

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  29. DrewInWisconsin, Doormat Member
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    The whole “privilege” narrative is poisonous in that it implies that certain demographics are inherently bad at stuff. For example, “male privilege” implies that men are better than women, and so any woman who believes it in, must also believe that women are inherently inferior.

    So to turn this on your accusers, you may innocently ask why they believe they are lesser people, while you believe they have equal value and worth. You, it turns out, believe in equality, whereas they believe that some races and sexes are better than others.

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  30. Flapjack Coolidge
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    Headedwest (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    Bob Armstrong (View Comment):

    Literacy, rational thinking, introspection would all seem to be viable sources of privilege per the rubric…

    How about good genes – born with good eyesight, good hearing and native immunities. Born to a family that is intact and taught me and demonstrated empathy and humility and respectfulness in engaging with others. Those are both things not within your control. Luck? Privilege? People ought not blame their parents or others for their lives after they are 18, but what the heck – talk about what you started with. Gratitude is never out of style.

    I really like this. You can express gratitude for all the good things that you got in life without using their code words.

    I think composing a gratitude-based introduction would be a positive way of getting (what I think is) your message across.  

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