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Fauci Lies Again
Anthony Fauci praises New York’s coronavirus response: ‘They did it correctly’
“We’ve got to do the things that are very clear that we need to do to turn this around,” Fauci told PBS NewsHour. “Remember, we can do it. We know that when you do it properly, you bring down those cases. We’ve done it. We’ve done it in New York.”
“New York got hit worse than any place in the world. And they did it correctly by doing the things that you’re talking about,” added Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases — and a member of the White House coronavirus task force.
The population of New York is 19.45 million.
The population of Florida is 21.48 million.
The number of COVID 19 deaths in New York is 32,167.
The number of COVID 19 deaths in Florida is 4,894.
Not only does Florida have a larger population than New York, but it has a much higher percentage of high-risk elderly people. Yet, New York has managed to kill about 7 times the number of people who died in Florida. Fauci’s claim that New York “did it right” is ridiculous. This man needs to be fired not just from Trump’s White House team but from his job at NIH. The NIH long ago had a pristine reputation but in the last decade or two, it has shown itself to be in bed with big pharma. I honestly suspect that Fauci isn’t just gaslighting to defeat Trump in the election but is trying to increase demand for his imaginary vaccine and the profits made thereof. Jonas Salk donated the patent for his polio vaccine. No matter how many people were given the vaccine Salk didn’t make an additional penny. At this time, either Fauci commits to having his big pharma pals do the same or he can rot in hell with all the other rat bastards.
The number of cases is going up because of the massively increased testing of people who are in low-risk groups. They already have had the virus and their immune systems overcame it so they test positive for antibodies. Meanwhile, the death rate hasn’t kept pace with the new case rate. In addition, many people who again have antibodies and thus test positive have died of other causes. These people are being counted as COVID 19 deaths.
There is no second wave. New York screwed up by putting COVID 19 severely ill patients into nursing homes. These are just facts. Fauci should be fired for this nonsense.
Regards,
Jim
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As someone else pointed out on a different thread, all of these places have both large and seemingly-insignificant-but-possibly-not differences even to the extent of how much people tend to laugh in public. Another behavior would could help spread an aerosol-carried virus.
The armory was not used. The ship was not fully utilized. They booted the tent hospital out of town.
Not so sure a comparison is nuts.
On the one hand, you have a nation run and ruled by Big Pharma, and in order to make it possible for the Gates Syndicate to bring about their mandated vaccine, it is necessary to continue to hype the fear.
Hyping the fear will also allow for the installation of the contact tracing programs as well, the “protection” Bill Gates was emphasizing during his Am Talk shows in Late March and early April. (He calls it protection; I call it surveillance.)
What better way to hype the fear than to deprive the populace of the remedy? because without a remedy, what will happen but a soaring death rate?
On the other hand, in nations where the officials rely on their health experts, who actually are involved in health, there is no deprivation of the remedy. So we see HCQ plus zinc used in Turkey; fatality rate under 0.04%. Japan relies on favipiravir, and that has kept its fatality rate to a mere 1,000 deaths.
Japan has put Big Pharma on alert several times over the last decade. In 2011, it was decided that babies and toddlers under the age of 2 years old would no longer be vaccinated. The health officials came up with this idea after wading through several decades of data collected by our health organizations, relating to the ill effects of our vaccines on our babies and toddlers. The finalized study made the outcome rather obvious.
In the quote, Fauci is referring specifically to the steps NYC has taken to reduce the rate of infections and hospitalizations. Boston and NYC have been successful in containing the spread of the disease to some extent. That is not a lie. That is the truth.
The rest of the post and comments are talking about Cuomo’s errors in judgment, and there are too many to list. I agree with that. But Fauci’s interest is in containing the spread of an infectious disease. That’s all he is referring to in that quote.
I don’t know about Boston because I haven’t looked at their stats, but I don’t know how you can say that New York City successfully contained the spread of the disease. It possibly had the highest concentration of cases and deaths of any city in the World.
Fear is not only the problem, it is the intent to instill fear to make control easier.
Marci,
Testing positive for antibodies, while being in a low-risk group, is not the spread of infectious disease. In fact, it brings you one step closer to herd immunity our ultimate defense against infectious disease. This is nonsense. There is no increase in hospitalizations or deaths due to COVID19. The increase in hospital occupancy was caused by the build-up of non-COVID patients, heart disease & cancer..etc., who didn’t get the treatment they needed because they were turned away because of fears of COVID19. In short, there is no second wave! We are being gaslighted into continuing the lock-down when there is no justification for it whatsoever. I’ve heard it repeated again again that Trump caused over 100,000 deaths. This is a complete lie. Over a third of those deaths were in New York alone. Also, people who have been tested positive for antibodies but whose immune systems have already overcome the virus but then, later on, die of other causes are being counted as COVID19 deaths.
The American People are being gaslighted and Fauci is only too happy to keep it going. I think Fauci has an additional motive. He is in the catbird seat when it comes to the vaccine. He is after some of the immense profits that the holders of the patent for the vaccine will reap.
Fauci is full of it.
Regards,
Jim
At first I thought I was reading another Biden quote with regard to Fauci stating New York handle the problem correctly. Sort of on the same frequency as “Arizona is a nice city”.
Yes it is very easy to point to NYC as having the highest death count in the world, as 33,000 deaths out of eight million people is a rather atrocious statistic.
What would be the worldwide death count from syphilis or gonorrhea if doctors could no longer prescribe penicillin for those diseases? And what would happen to humanity overall if someone in power decided we could no longer prescribe
for the Black Plague, AKA bubonic fever, which still exists and recently flared up not too far out of Wuhan China?
The fact that Fauci himself touted the use of Hydroxychloroquine in 2005 as being an effective treatment for corona viruses confirms that he is now a liar. If a remedy that works quickly, even in terminal cases, was made available nationwide, then the existence and even the spread of COVID would not be that worrisome. This is especially the case given the studies that have been done that show that people who have been exposed to SARS I do have either full or partial immunity to COVID SARS II.
Carol,
This is one of the other things that I haven’t mentioned that makes me so suspicious of Fauci’s motives. He wants nothing to get in the way of the vaccine. I still think it is unlikely that a vaccine can be properly tested and released to the public this year. If so then the vaccine is mostly useless anyway. Those who have already died will remain dead and herd immunity will save most of the rest. The vaccine will be too late. If that was widely recognized then his profit margin would be severely curtailed.
Fauci stinks to high heaven.
Regards,
Jim
Every vax safety FB group I am on has stories about how speeded up the process for the COVID vaccine happens to be. I would be surprised if it is not available by November. Several major contracts have been signed with major tech companies for the nano particle end of it. (And Fauci himself has proclaimed nano tech to be a big part of the ability of the vaccine to be rushed into production and distribution – it’s likely the youtube of him making that proclamation is still up and running.)
Sure it would take another year if the purpose of the vaccine was to be safe, and effective. But Gates is more concerned about not having any liability about the safety end of it. The 1986 Vaccine Bill that indemnified vax manufacturers sets the precedent for him not having any worries there. Plus doctors have been well taught over the last two decades that if anything happens to anyone within 10 minutes to two weeks after a vaccination that the surviving family members is told “It was just a coincidence.”
As far as effectiveness, there have been flu vaccines on the market for over forty years. Yet we still have tens of thousands of flu fatalities each year. Some 60,000 to 80,000 people died of the flu back in 2017, I think it was. We had over 50,000 flu deaths the winter of 2019-2020 until COVID swiped the headlines away from those fatalities.
Carol,
This makes zero sense. Even a very subtle side effect not picked up by the initial testing could kill many more perfectly healthy people than the virus itself. By the time it is available it would be best to simply wait for the inevitable herd immunity.
All the more reason to fire Fauci now!
Regards,
Jim
Does fauci have a financial interest in the sale of the vaccine?
Flick,
He controls who will get the contract. The NIH has lost its pristine reputation in the last decade. They are knee-deep in big pharma. I have heard no one mention that the vaccine should not be patented or that the patent should be given over to the government. So I assume it’s full speed ahead, maximize profits, and don’t forget good old Dr. Fauci. He just wants to wet his beak.
Regards,
Jim
A big problem is that the theory of herd immunity has been re-written over the last few years. The new theory doesn’t make sense. But I take it your definition and mine are in terms of the traditional theory of herd immunity.
Tied in to the traditional theory of herd immunity was that in the 1920’s, health experts looked to people getting whatever virus had been gong around in the winter as being much weakened by two factors:
Carol,
Remember, once you have the virus and your immune system has overwhelmed it you can’t get the virus or transmit it. You are vaccinated without the risk of the vaccine which may be much greater than the risk of the virus itself.
Regards,
Jim
Once it got started, yes, I think they did a good job reigning it in.
This is the area in which I think Republican Governor Baker was way ahead of Cuomo. Baker had 4,000 people in quarantine in January. These were people who had traveled to Boston from Asia. I believe that’s why we didn’t get hit as hard as New York City did in March and early April. Baker had people at the airport screening travelers for fevers too. Eventually we lost that initial advantage, and our death toll is something third or fourth in the country. You don’t hear much about Boston because the Democrats actually like Baker and the mass media leaves him alone–he has a 68 percent approval rating as Republican governor in a largely blue state (that said, over 45 percent of Massachusetts residents are registered as independents, not with either party, so how “blue” we are is open to debate). What I’m saying here is that initially I was ticked off at Cuomo, but as time went on, I could see that it was a very bad bug, it’s possible we in the Northeast got the extra-virulent Lombardy strain, and it wouldn’t have mattered what Cuomo did. Baker did not put infected patients back into their nursing homes, yet we had the disastrous results. So much can we blame Cuomo? I don’t honestly know.
Cuomo reacted too slowly and he made huge mistakes in handling the outbreak itself. That said, he has to get some credit for doing a good job of containing the fire once it had started.
Wow. I just can’t even entertain the idea that Dr. Fauci is trying to make money from this pandemic in any way.
This fraud is a stooge of the Democrats, communists, Soros and Gates.
This is a good article on our Wuhan virus. https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
Codevilla gives attention to Fauci and casts great doubt on his trustworthiness.
Marci,
Sweet and good Marci, I know that you never would wish to think the worst of someone. An admirable trait. However, what if tomorrow it was discovered that Dr. Fauci had received stock options from a big pharma firm to the tune of say half a million dollars (not that much in the world we now live in). Would that change your attitude a little?
This is just a theoretical question and not an accusation. (Of course, if you believe the facts don’t matter and only the narrative matters then there is no difference.) Given his position, you do understand how easy it would be for him to be on the take in any one of many difficult to detect ways. We are talking about the most sophisticated people with an immense amount of money at stake. He has numerous connections with them at every level.
If Fauci really means that much to you, I won’t direct a comment about him to you again.
Regards,
Jim
I would never believe that Dr. Fauci would make recommendations based on his desire for personal gain. Even if he ended up being a stockholder in the Moderna company, I would still not believe that his desire to make money affected his recommendations.
So we will have to agree to disagree on the subject of Dr. Fauci. :-)
Marci,
I will comment on Fauci to you no more. I will mention that when I was in my middle 20s I had two major American Drug companies and their corporate research facilities in my territory. I was selling instruments to them not for them. I was supplying them with facts, not narratives. Things look different from that angle. Drug companies aren’t seeing individual patients as a doctor would. They are keenly aware of regulators, stockholders, patents, advertising, and, of course, the bottom line. Nobody is wearing a stethoscope and applying their bedside manner. If it sounds a little cold that is exactly as I found it to be. Other industries, which I was also covering, seemed almost “down home” in comparison.
Keep your mind open. I am not a prophet but I don’t think we’ve seen the final word on this. There is more in store.
Regards,
Jim
Agency heads are not the same as you and me. They usually make a deal with the devil.
The CDC holds 50 patents on various meds and vaccines.
The National Institute of Health and the division that oversees Allergies, of which Dr Fauci is the head, is very tied into allowing and promoting whatever Big Pharma wants.
Allergies are caused by our over the top vaccine policies. Anyone who gets so far inside a government agency without a certain amount of awareness can only be one of two things. If Fauci really is not paid to look the other way, with regards to allergies and vaccines, then he is extremely stupid. He certainly does not come across as stupid to me.
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@marcin
In the 50’s and 60’s, few people even knew someone who had a peanut allergy. Now it is very common place, so inside a classroom of 18 kids, 2 or 3 will be children who cannot be close to a peanut.
Vaccines use peanut oil and peanut proteins as adjuvants. Whereas we Baby Boomers only had four or five vaccines, today’s kindergartner has at least three dozen vaxxes and boosters before reaching their sixth birthday.
If I had not spent three years of my life researching the researchers regarding the MTBE issue in the 1990’s, I might be more reluctant to feel that agency heads are on the take. But for at least 24 months, I watched in dismay as people attempted to tell the head of the Calif Air Resources Board, Sen Di Feinstein, various bigshots inside the Sierra Club, what MTBE had done to the health of one or more family members. In response, these people were called out for their “senseless anecdotal stories” when in fact, observations actually are the First Principle of Science.
Over 900 industry funded studies showed MTBE was totally safe. Only one showed it was risky, but it was dismissed on the grounds of having been done in Italy by an Italian scientist. Only because Gov Grey Davis put his career on the line and put together a scientific panel that did the first completely independent study was the state of Calif spared the agony of being decimated by the MTBE mandate. Without that study and its forthright conclusions, Calif would have lost 50% of its aquifers in ten years, for both drinking and irrigation water purposes.
Some agency heads do the Big Nasty to avoid having some very revealing something come out about their personal history. Others are reaping a bonanza of riches. Often it is not outright $$s but jobs for relatives. In this day and age, though, off shore accounts that the Agency head has at their disposal are not uncommon.
In Fauci’s case he is guilty of a hugely horrific Big Nasty. He refuses to admit there is absolutely “no virulent strain” of COVID. Instead, the reality is this: when a person who is infected with COVID has no immunity to it, then is left without any treatment until the infection has gone on for 5 days, they are in trouble. (Some decent drs use HCQ, zinc and AZ, or the asthma med that Dr Bartlett of TX has been prescribing.)
Instead at the 5 day mark, a cytokinic storm arises. The infected patient is overwhelmed by various factors. Even then however, if HCQ is available, patient recovers.
If the patient is not given HCQ, they are put on a ventilator. In 95% of those cases they die.
We all know Fauci knows abt HCQ, as he recommended it as a Corona virus treatment back in 2005. If he was honest, he would be shouting about its use as a treatment to the heavens.
Wow, Marci, you sure care a great deal about Fauci’s reputation or something. More the something but whatever. You tell the story. Go for it.Wait a minute, that was Carol. Boy, I’m getting old or what? Marci, if I can’t talk listen to Carol. She is making a great deal of sense.Regards,
Jim
You can talk. Good grief. Your posts and comments are always interesting. I didn’t say you shouldn’t talk. :-) :-)
@caroljoy I spent a lot of time looking into the vaccine questions years ago. I haven’t kept up with it because I’m an editor, not a biologist. There’s no point in my doing it because I have no influence in this area. You’ve raised many interesting points, some of which I remember seeing years ago. But I’m an editor by trade, and I question every single word I read. I’ve found over the years that there are many facets of every “fact” and there are many arguments for every assertion.
I appreciate the information you put together for me in the comments, but I truly have no way to evaluate it.
I’m sure you are an effective and influential activist, and it’s a good thing that you and people like you are paying attention. But I don’t want to waste your time so I have to say that I have only the most casual interest in the vaccine issues. I’m comfortable with most of them. Travelers such as people in the military depend on them. They seem to work. I believe people should have the right to refuse them. That’s all I know.
Marci,
I respect your good faith attitude. Unfortunately, there is a saying I learned from an old Chicago attorney friend of mine. “You can’t make a good deal with a bad guy.” I fear we are dealing with just that. Even with Public Health issues that most certainly should be politically neutral territory as far as politics. Everything is being exploited in a truly dangerous Marxist ideological way. We must keep our guard up. ;-)
Regards,
Jim
Peanut allergies were almost completely unknown when I was a kid, but I thought this suggested cause of modern allergies sounded suspicious so I looked up a couple of things.
It turns out that peanut oil is not used as adjuvants in vaccines. The idea seems to be based on some misreadings of a couple newspaper articles from the 1960’s. It’s a complicated story but Snopes outlines it Here.
The CDC explains common adjuvants used in vaccines and makes no mention of peanut oil.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/adjuvants.html
Nobody really knows why peanut allergies have suddenly appeared in modern America, but the most common theory (according to my wife the epidemiologist) is that many children are raised in more sterile environments with less exposure to germs that enhance their immune systems, and children’s diets are more limited, denying their systems contact with a variety of foods with which their bodies become accustomed. Rather than causing allergies, it has been found that purposely feeding children peanuts or peanut butter at a young age reduces the likelihood of peanut allergies.
There is even a study from Israel, a country awash in vaccinations, that demonstrates feeding infants peanut butter wards off allergies to it. Israel’s favorite snack from infants to the elderly is something made out of peanut butter, called “Bamba.” Peanut allergies in Israel are extremely rare.
https://forward.com/scribe/373352/how-israel-beat-peanut-allergies/