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I still can’t wrap my head around the “canceling” of David Shor. Shor is the progressive data analyst who tweeted a link to a research paper written by Omar Wasow of Princeton that showed that peaceful protest moves public opinion toward protesters, while rioting moves opinion in the opposite direction.

Progressphiles kicked Shor off its LISTSERV and released a statement that said, in part:

In response to a well-deserved call in over a racist tweet, he encouraged harassment that led to death threats instead of choosing to learn and grow from his mistake. We as the Progressphiles Moderators, professionals in this industry, and as people, absolutely condemn this behavior. It is unacceptable to make people on this list and in this community feel unsafe for calling out wrongdoings. We cannot begin to decolonize our minds if we do not create safety for those fighting against white supremacy.

Comments by Progressphile members following Shor’s expulsion were also interesting:

Sometimes [racism is] quiet; steeped in seemingly innocuous data and facts. Racism can wrap itself in the trappings of credible logic and I swear it can make sense.

[T]he idea that the moderators are someone shutting down discourse is patently absurd. Worth considering that they are indeed, trying to shut down discourse that might actually be offensive or racist for good reason.

According to Michael Brendan Dougherty, writing in NRO,

Ari Trujillo Wesler (co-founder of OpenField, a Democratic canvassing app) said that sharing the Wasow paper “reeks of anti-blackness,” then tagged in David Shor’s boss, saying, ‘Come get your boy.’… Shor’s fellow employees complained that his tweet made them “unsafe.”

Why was Shor’s tweet racist?

Why are Omar Wasow’s findings racist?

Is the proper woke position that black Americans are naturally violent people who like to riot? If so, why isn’t this position racist?

Or is the proper woke position that black Americans must riot to accomplish… what?

And if rioting is intended to accomplish something, why is it racist to suggest that another tactic might be more effective?

Is simply disagreeing with some blacks racist even though other blacks also believe that rioting is ineffective?

Why does suggesting that rioting is counterproductive make people feel unsafe? Do riots give Progressives a sense of security?

“Decolonize our minds?”

How does suggesting that riots are ineffective support white supremacy?

Are facts, if they really are true, racist? If they are false, can’t people simply provide counter facts and logic without attacking the mistaken person as evil?

How can one person simultaneously hold the following diametrically opposed thoughts in his head?

  1. The moderators didn’t shut down the discussion and claims that they did are absurd
  2. The moderators shut down the discussion for good reason

Do people really think and talk this way?

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  1. RightAngles Member

    Another frightening event. Sometimes, I don’t know how we go back to normal unless a sea change happens.

    How can one person simultaneously hold the following diametrically opposed thoughts in his head?

    • #1
    • July 8, 2020, at 6:16 AM PDT
    • 30 likes
  2. Percival Thatcher
    Percival Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Richard Fulmer: Sometimes [racism is] quiet; steeped in seemingly innocuous data and facts. Racism can wrap itself in the trappings of credible logic and I swear it can make sense. 

    And sometimes innocuous facts and data intrude on the “reality” that the progressives have concocted for themselves. 

    It’s gotta hurt when that happens.

     

    • #2
    • July 8, 2020, at 6:21 AM PDT
    • 18 likes
  3. lowtech redneck Coolidge

    This isn’t even ‘just another day’ in Woke America, its ‘just another lunch break’. Its illustrative, but no worse, or more irrational, than several other purges going on. They’re even Cancelling Noam Chomsky over his (relative) support for free speech.

     

    • #3
    • July 8, 2020, at 6:26 AM PDT
    • 14 likes
  4. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… Thatcher

    Let me help you.

    Everything needs to be seen through the lens of race. That is the only analysis that needs to be done. People do not take actions for any other reason.

    White people are inescapably racist. And they use the tools of language to maintain that supremacy by Western science, logic and reason. That is, they create their own reality to allow them to dominate others. To overthrow white supremacy that language must be destroyed.

    Shor (a white dude) quoting a “scientific study” is a perfect example of white supremacy. His citing to the study is an effort to undermine the efforts of those struggling against white supremacy, regardless of what he says his reasons were. The riots mentioned in the study are not violence, they are only actions designed to overturn the language of oppression. It is the language of oppression that is violence. Therefore, Shor is advocating violence against black people by citing the study. He is a racist.

    Here’s an example of how you properly “interrogate” actions in the world of critical race theory. Two people, one black and one white, walk into your store at the same time. You are a white storeowner. You serve the white person first. You are a racist. You serve the black person first because you obviously want to get them out of your store quickly because you feel threatened. You are a racist.

    None of the above is parody. This is how the theory works.

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    • July 8, 2020, at 6:33 AM PDT
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  5. Percival Thatcher
    Percival Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):

    This isn’t even ‘just another day’ in Woke America, its ‘just another lunch break’. Its illustrative, but no worse, or more irrational, than several other purges going on. They’re even Cancelling Noam Chomsky over his (relative) support for free speech.

     

    Chomsky cancelled from the Left. I’m dying over here.

    • #5
    • July 8, 2020, at 6:38 AM PDT
    • 19 likes
  6. RightAngles Member

    Percival (View Comment):

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):

    This isn’t even ‘just another day’ in Woke America, its ‘just another lunch break’. Its illustrative, but no worse, or more irrational, than several other purges going on. They’re even Cancelling Noam Chomsky over his (relative) support for free speech.

     

    Chomsky cancelled from the Left. I’m dying over here.

    Just when I thought it could not get more surreal.

    • #6
    • July 8, 2020, at 6:42 AM PDT
    • 14 likes
  7. Jules PA Member

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    Let me help you.

    Everything needs to be seen through the lens of race. That is the only analysis that needs to be done. People do not take actions for any other reason.

    White people are inescapably racist. And they use the tools of language to maintain that supremacy by Western science, logic and reason. That is, they create their own reality to allow them to dominate others. To overthrow white supremacy that language must be destroyed.

    Shor (a white dude) quoting a “scientific study” is a perfect example of white supremacy. His citing to the study is an effort to undermine the efforts of those struggling against white supremacy, regardless of what he says his reasons were. The riots mentioned in the study are not violence, they are only actions designed to overturn the language of oppression. It is the language of oppression that is violence. Therefore, Shor is advocating violence against black people by citing the study. He is a racist.

    Here’s an example of how you properly “interrogate” actions in the world of critical race theory. Two people, one black and one white, walk into your store at the same time. You are a white storeowner. You serve the white person first. You are a racist. You serve the black person first because you obviously want to get them out of your store quickly because you feel threatened. You are a racist.

    None of the above is parody. This is how the theory works.

    All their dupes logically think that their support now puts them in the safe zone forever.

    The left is a bank robber team, where in the end one person sees all the team as disloyal, then shoots them all, takes the loot, and goes to a deserted island to live in secluded luxury. 

    Lenin and Stalin killed indiscriminately. We haven t gotten to the big blood yet, but the current muzzling of Americans is a pretty big step in that direction.

     

    • #7
    • July 8, 2020, at 7:27 AM PDT
    • 12 likes
  8. Full Size Tabby Member

    I have been intrigued in recent years, and especially in very recent weeks, how many of the arguments of people claiming we must change everything because everything is racist are arguments based implicitly on assumptions that black people are incapable of civilized behavior, incapable of reasoning and learning, and are inherently violent. These are their friends?

    • #8
    • July 8, 2020, at 7:44 AM PDT
    • 21 likes
  9. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member

    I agree with Gumby Mark’s #4 above about the underlying ideology.

    I think that the purpose is very clear. The entire BLM narrative is a lie. There is a strange, loose conspiracy promoting the narrative, which seems to have virtually taken over the media and the Democratic party.

    It appears that the people promoting this false narrative are determined that there be no criticism whatsoever of BLM. Instilling fear in anyone who would dissent seems to be the point of actions like the “canceling” of Mr. Shor.

    • #9
    • July 8, 2020, at 7:46 AM PDT
    • 16 likes
  10. Percival Thatcher
    Percival Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Jules PA (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    Let me help you.

    Everything needs to be seen through the lens of race. That is the only analysis that needs to be done. People do not take actions for any other reason.

    White people are inescapably racist. And they use the tools of language to maintain that supremacy by Western science, logic and reason. That is, they create their own reality to allow them to dominate others. To overthrow white supremacy that language must be destroyed.

    Shor (a white dude) quoting a “scientific study” is a perfect example of white supremacy. His citing to the study is an effort to undermine the efforts of those struggling against white supremacy, regardless of what he says his reasons were. The riots mentioned in the study are not violence, they are only actions designed to overturn the language of oppression. It is the language of oppression that is violence. Therefore, Shor is advocating violence against black people by citing the study. He is a racist.

    Here’s an example of how you properly “interrogate” actions in the world of critical race theory. Two people, one black and one white, walk into your store at the same time. You are a white storeowner. You serve the white person first. You are a racist. You serve the black person first because you obviously want to get them out of your store quickly because you feel threatened. You are a racist.

    None of the above is parody. This is how the theory works.

    All their dupes logically think that their support now puts them in the safe zone forever.

    The left is a bank robber team, where in the end one person sees all the team as disloyal, then shoots them all, takes the loot, and goes to a deserted island to live in secluded luxury.

    Lenin and Stalin killed indiscriminately. We haven t gotten to the big blood yet, but the current muzzling of Americans is a pretty big step in that direction.

     

    That is why all these little slugs need to put down the Harry Potter and pick up Darkness at Noon.

    Let me summarize for any heads full of mush that happen upon these words: first, you’ll be useful. Then you’ll be convenient. Then you’ll be surplus. Then you’ll be an annoyance. Then you’ll be an Enemy of the State. The End.

    • #10
    • July 8, 2020, at 8:03 AM PDT
    • 14 likes
  11. RightAngles Member

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    I agree with Gumby Mark’s #4 above about the underlying ideology.

    I think that the purpose is very clear. The entire BLM narrative is a lie. There is a strange, loose conspiracy promoting the narrative, which seems to have virtually taken over the media and the Democratic party.

    It appears that the people promoting this false narrative are determined that there be no criticism whatsoever of BLM. Instilling fear in anyone who would dissent seems to be the point of actions like the “canceling” of Mr. Shor.

    On Reddit the other day, posted by a moderator (POC is People of Color) – sic:

    r/JusticeServed

    We can no longer allow any content that shows POC as the
    aggressor.

    Due to the new reddit updates to it’s policies and rules, as
    well as administrator conversations with users; we can no
    longer allow any posts, comments, or other content that
    shows a POC as the aggressor. This is considered hate speech
    and/or harassment towards an important minority group
    and is no longer allowed. This absolutely means any videos,
    as well as news reports, photos, personal stories,
    data/statistics, police reports, or any other form of media.

    LINKS:
    [link to imgur.com (secure)]
    [link to imgur.com (secure)]

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    • July 8, 2020, at 8:16 AM PDT
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  12. Old Bathos Moderator

    Groupthink demands that groupthink be deemed effective and persuasive. Those that disagree must be consigned to live among the silenced racist hordes in the hinterland. That this increases the number of those of us consigned to the racist hordes at the expense of the number of the Enlightened does not seem to occur to the Enlightened.

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    • July 8, 2020, at 8:41 AM PDT
    • 7 likes
  13. Percival Thatcher
    Percival Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    How many people were sobbing “If only Stalin knew …” as they were being dragged into that room in the basement of the Lubyanka with the sloped floor and the drain in one corner?

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    • July 8, 2020, at 8:41 AM PDT
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  14. Jules PA Member

    Percival (View Comment):

    How many people were sobbing “If only Stalin knew …” as they were being dragged into that room in the basement of the Lubyanka with the sloped floor and the drain in one corner?

    Oh, that was just Stalin’s misapplication of Communist philosophy. sarc/off

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    • July 8, 2020, at 9:09 AM PDT
    • 6 likes
  15. lowtech redneck Coolidge

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Groupthink demands that groupthink be deemed effective and persuasive. Those that disagree must be consigned to live among the silenced racist hordes in the hinterland. That this increases the number of those of us consigned to the racist hordes at the expense of the number of the Enlightened does not seem to occur to the Enlightened.

    Oh, it occurred to them, that’s why they seek to import millions of new Democrats and have monopolistic control over the public education system, in order to brainwash the children of their enemies.

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    • July 8, 2020, at 9:17 AM PDT
    • 3 likes
  16. OmegaPaladin Moderator

    Here’s the fundamental problem with their critical theory – it only has power over people who are already anti-racist. The actual racist is immune to their power. This is why people are joining the Alt-White / Identitarian groups – if you are racist by definition, then you might as well enjoy the benefits.

    “You’re a racist!”

    “So what? I don’t care – you are inferior to me anyway.”

     

    • #16
    • July 8, 2020, at 9:25 AM PDT
    • 6 likes
  17. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… Thatcher

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    I have been intrigued in recent years, and especially in very recent weeks, how many of the arguments of people claiming we must change everything because everything is racist are arguments based implicitly on assumptions that black people are incapable of civilized behavior, incapable of reasoning and learning, and are inherently violent. These are their friends?

    They would respond that the very language you are using demonstrates you are a racist. The meanings white people have given terms like “civilized behavior”, “reasoning” and “learning” are merely constructs used to maintain white supremacy. When others take control of the top of the power hierarchy they can infuse their own meanings into the terms, meanings that allow them to maintain their supremacy.

    It’s why you can’t argue with them. They simply will not accept the terms you use. Your language has no meaning independent of its use to maintain white supremacy.

    • #17
    • July 8, 2020, at 9:30 AM PDT
    • 8 likes
  18. DonG (skeptic) Coolidge

    Marxists don’t tolerate anything critical of Marxism. 

    • #18
    • July 8, 2020, at 9:44 AM PDT
    • 6 likes
  19. Richard Fulmer Member
    Richard Fulmer

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    I agree with Gumby Mark’s #4 above about the underlying ideology.

    I think that the purpose is very clear. The entire BLM narrative is a lie. There is a strange, loose conspiracy promoting the narrative, which seems to have virtually taken over the media and the Democratic party.

    It appears that the people promoting this false narrative are determined that there be no criticism whatsoever of BLM. Instilling fear in anyone who would dissent seems to be the point of actions like the “canceling” of Mr. Shor.

    On Reddit the other day, posted by a moderator (POC is People of Color) – sic:

    r/JusticeServed

    We can no longer allow any content that shows POC as the
    aggressor.

    Due to the new reddit updates to it’s policies and rules, as
    well as administrator conversations with users; we can no
    longer allow any posts, comments, or other content that
    shows a POC as the aggressor. This is considered hate speech
    and/or harassment towards an important minority group
    and is no longer allowed. This absolutely means any videos,
    as well as news reports, photos, personal stories,
    data/statistics, police reports, or any other form of media.

    LINKS:
    [link to imgur.com (secure)]
    [link to imgur.com (secure)]

    Wow. So, before we were indoctrinated on the idea that POC can’t be racist, now they’re upping the ante: POC can’t be aggressors. Presumably, any violent acts by POC are defensive and, moreover, necessary in the face of the continual violence directed against them by a fundamentally racist <America | white race | colonial power | fill-in-the-blank>. What will the next gambit be? POC can’t commit crimes?

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    • July 8, 2020, at 9:55 AM PDT
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  20. Full Size Tabby Member

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo&hellip; (View Comment):

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    I have been intrigued in recent years, and especially in very recent weeks, how many of the arguments of people claiming we must change everything because everything is racist are arguments based implicitly on assumptions that black people are incapable of civilized behavior, incapable of reasoning and learning, and are inherently violent. These are their friends?

    They would respond that the very language you are using demonstrates you are a racist. The meanings white people have given terms like “civilized behavior”, “reasoning” and “learning” are merely constructs used to maintain white supremacy. When others take control of the top of the power hierarchy they can infuse their own meanings into the terms, meanings that allow them to maintain their supremacy.

    It’s why you can’t argue with them. They simply will not accept the terms you use. Your language has no meaning independent of its use to maintain white supremacy.

    And they are giving me the reason to be a real racist white supremacist. If they tell me they can’t or won’t live alongside me, then the only thing I can do is lock them up. As @omegapaladin notes above, I might as well join the “alt-right” and embrace my superior position, and stop wasting my time trying to pretend the black man is my equal with whom I can co-exist. 

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    • July 8, 2020, at 10:17 AM PDT
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  21. Richard Fulmer Member
    Richard Fulmer

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo&hellip; (View Comment):

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    I have been intrigued in recent years, and especially in very recent weeks, how many of the arguments of people claiming we must change everything because everything is racist are arguments based implicitly on assumptions that black people are incapable of civilized behavior, incapable of reasoning and learning, and are inherently violent. These are their friends?

    They would respond that the very language you are using demonstrates you are a racist. The meanings white people have given terms like “civilized behavior”, “reasoning” and “learning” are merely constructs used to maintain white supremacy. When others take control of the top of the power hierarchy they can infuse their own meanings into the terms, meanings that allow them to maintain their supremacy.

    It’s why you can’t argue with them. They simply will not accept the terms you use. Your language has no meaning independent of its use to maintain white supremacy.

    And they are giving me the reason to be a real racist white supremacist. If they tell me they can’t or won’t live alongside me, then the only thing I can do is lock them up. As @omegapaladin notes above, I might as well join the “alt-right” and embrace my superior position, and stop wasting my time trying to pretend the black man is my equal with whom I can co-exist.

    Well, hold on. My impression, which may be wrong, is that most of this garbage is coming from white people who have been indoctrinated in the nation’s universities. The black people I know roll their eyes at this stuff.

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    • July 8, 2020, at 10:26 AM PDT
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  22. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… Thatcher

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo&hellip; (View Comment):

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    I have been intrigued in recent years, and especially in very recent weeks, how many of the arguments of people claiming we must change everything because everything is racist are arguments based implicitly on assumptions that black people are incapable of civilized behavior, incapable of reasoning and learning, and are inherently violent. These are their friends?

    They would respond that the very language you are using demonstrates you are a racist. The meanings white people have given terms like “civilized behavior”, “reasoning” and “learning” are merely constructs used to maintain white supremacy. When others take control of the top of the power hierarchy they can infuse their own meanings into the terms, meanings that allow them to maintain their supremacy.

    It’s why you can’t argue with them. They simply will not accept the terms you use. Your language has no meaning independent of its use to maintain white supremacy.

    And they are giving me the reason to be a real racist white supremacist. If they tell me they can’t or won’t live alongside me, then the only thing I can do is lock them up. As @omegapaladin notes above, I might as well join the “alt-right” and embrace my superior position, and stop wasting my time trying to pretend the black man is my equal with whom I can co-exist.

    Well, hold on. My impression, which may be wrong, is that most of this garbage is coming from white people who have been indoctrinated in the nation’s universities. The black people I know roll their eyes at this stuff.

    The problem is they now also run media, foundations, many cities, along with many corporations (and the ones they don’t run, they’ve intimidated). It all may sound crazy but it is impacting the real world, and the livelihood, careers and job prospects of a lot of people. It’s like a virus that escaped the lab and is now infecting the wider population.

    • #22
    • July 8, 2020, at 10:40 AM PDT
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  23. Richard Fulmer Member
    Richard Fulmer

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo&hellip; (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo&hellip; (View Comment):

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    I have been intrigued in recent years, and especially in very recent weeks, how many of the arguments of people claiming we must change everything because everything is racist are arguments based implicitly on assumptions that black people are incapable of civilized behavior, incapable of reasoning and learning, and are inherently violent. These are their friends?

    They would respond that the very language you are using demonstrates you are a racist. The meanings white people have given terms like “civilized behavior”, “reasoning” and “learning” are merely constructs used to maintain white supremacy. When others take control of the top of the power hierarchy they can infuse their own meanings into the terms, meanings that allow them to maintain their supremacy.

    It’s why you can’t argue with them. They simply will not accept the terms you use. Your language has no meaning independent of its use to maintain white supremacy.

    And they are giving me the reason to be a real racist white supremacist. If they tell me they can’t or won’t live alongside me, then the only thing I can do is lock them up. As @omegapaladin notes above, I might as well join the “alt-right” and embrace my superior position, and stop wasting my time trying to pretend the black man is my equal with whom I can co-exist.

    Well, hold on. My impression, which may be wrong, is that most of this garbage is coming from white people who have been indoctrinated in the nation’s universities. The black people I know roll their eyes at this stuff.

    The problem is they now also run media, foundations, many cities, along with many corporations (and the ones they don’t run, they’ve intimidated). It all may sound crazy but it is impacting the real world, and the livelihood, careers and job prospects of a lot of people. It’s like a virus that escaped the lab and is now infecting the wider population.

    I agree. But I don’t see how going full Alt-Right is going to make things any better.

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    • July 8, 2020, at 11:21 AM PDT
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  24. Bob Thompson Member

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Groupthink demands that groupthink be deemed effective and persuasive. Those that disagree must be consigned to live among the silenced racist hordes in the hinterland. That this increases the number of those of us consigned to the racist hordes at the expense of the number of the Enlightened does not seem to occur to the Enlightened.

    Would any of those doing the consigning actually be among the Enlightened? It appears to me that an essential feature for the Groupthink crowd is acknowledging lack of an individual capacity thus a necessity to join forces. It’s sad to see them exile themselves.

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    • July 8, 2020, at 12:12 PM PDT
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  25. Percival Thatcher
    Percival Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    I don’t want anybody cancelled. Not Chomsky, not J. K. Rowling, not Matthew Yglesias, not Rob Reiner, not Cher, not any of the mental midgets in Hollywood.

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    • July 8, 2020, at 3:41 PM PDT
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  26. Bruce Caward Thatcher
    Bruce Caward Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Thank you College.

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    • July 8, 2020, at 5:47 PM PDT
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  27. brad2971 Inactive

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo&hellip; (View Comment):

    The problem is they now also run media, foundations, many cities, along with many corporations (and the ones they don’t run, they’ve intimidated). It all may sound crazy but it is impacting the real world, and the livelihood, careers and job prospects of a lot of people. It’s like a virus that escaped the lab and is now infecting the wider population.

     

    Why is Tucker Carlson still on FOX News at 6PM MDT, if FOX Corporation is so intimidated?

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    • July 8, 2020, at 6:20 PM PDT
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  28. lowtech redneck Coolidge

    brad2971 (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo&hellip; (View Comment):

    The problem is they now also run media, foundations, many cities, along with many corporations (and the ones they don’t run, they’ve intimidated). It all may sound crazy but it is impacting the real world, and the livelihood, careers and job prospects of a lot of people. It’s like a virus that escaped the lab and is now infecting the wider population.

     

    Why is Tucker Carlson still on FOX News at 6PM MDT, if FOX Corporation is so intimidated?

    Because they are not complete morons, and hope that Tucker’s rapidly growing popularity will attach itself to the rest of a mostly discredited news product. Murdoch’s sons are not fond of conservatives, at all, and they have taken several actions over the past few years to appease the Leftists (though that would best be described as opportunism rather than intimidation, on their part).

    How many abrupt ‘vacations’ and outright suspensions have less popular personalities like Luara Ingraham been subjected to at this point?

     

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    • July 8, 2020, at 7:51 PM PDT
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  29. Jon1979 Lincoln

    brad2971 (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo&hellip; (View Comment):

    The problem is they now also run media, foundations, many cities, along with many corporations (and the ones they don’t run, they’ve intimidated). It all may sound crazy but it is impacting the real world, and the livelihood, careers and job prospects of a lot of people. It’s like a virus that escaped the lab and is now infecting the wider population.

    Why is Tucker Carlson still on FOX News at 6PM MDT, if FOX Corporation is so intimidated?

    Because Rupert’s still alive, and son Lachlan likes the profits for News Corp. more than he likes virtue signaling. Had the other Murdoch brother, James, been given control of FNC, Carlson would not be on the air, because James is far more into progressive causes and would have tried to remake the channel into in his mind, a more profitable version of CNN or MSNBC (based on the same mindset of ‘Real socialism has never been tried‘ James would have said ‘Real progressive news channel has never been tried‘).

    The desire to kill the golden news goose in the name of social justice is why when Rupert sold off all his entertainment properties save Fox Broadcasting to Disney two years ago, he tried to throw James in as part of the deal. But while Bob Iger might be a progressive, he’s not a moron, and declined the offer, leading the woke Murdoch sire to pursue his fortune elsewhere.

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  30. Jon1979 Lincoln

    The other reason for lashing out here is Shor poked a hole in the bubble, and let in information that did not conform to the desired confirmation biases, where due to their control of most of the media and pop culture, those backing the recent civil unrest and the #BLM and Antifa actions find it far easier to cocoon themselves from bad news and to fight off any attempts to allow it into their world. You saw the same thing proactively last month in New York when Bill de Blasio ordered COVID-19 contact trackers working for the city not to ask people if they attended any of the George Floyd-caused protest events — it didn’t matter that the information might help the city and the area in general do a better job of containing any new coronavirus spike, the mayor and others supporting the protests didn’t want any information gathered which might show those events were spreaders of the virus.

    In this case, the people mad at Shor don’t want people to know that the protests might be bad for their cause, because they believe their are Masters of the Media Universe, and without that information being out in public, can somehow convince enough people to go against their own personal preferences and somehow think riots are good (likely via intimidation and trying to isolate those people into believing no one else thinks riots are bad, so they need to get with where everyone else is on the matter). Alternate statistics then are attacked just like alternate opinions, where those who allow either to enter the marketplace of ideas are to be cancelled — Shor’s treatment in that way is no different from James Bennett, who was forced out at the Times for the effrontery of putting Tom Cotton’s op-ed into the pages and the html links of the paper’s subscribers.

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