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  1. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    TBA (View Comment):

    My fond hope is to airbrush Trump from American History, “as if it never happened.”  Trump will someday be held with the same revulsion of Joe McCarthy, a terrible, terrible mistake where we lost our way.

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  2. namlliT noD Member
    namlliT noD
    @DonTillman

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Columbo (View Comment):

    Gary’s party.

    Or…

    My feeling here is one of “Ugh!” for most of the Democrats, and overt revulsion for AOC and Bernie.

    To include one of the greatest and bravest nominees in history, Mitt Romney, with the Democrats is blasphemy in my mind. Romney is almost a saint, in that he refused for admire the emperor’s new clothing, and history will be very, very kind to Romney.

    What you call “blasphemy” is what actually happened.  The painting is titled “The Impeachment Mob”.  And Mitt Romney sided with the Democrats on that.

    The painting comes with a poem:

    You made your mark in history
    With your twisted, sorted lies.
    Beneath the Halls of Congress
    You plotted to disguise.

    Your hatred for the President,
    His unworthy leadership,
    You planned his swift removal
    Through a calculated script.

    You found a whistleblower
    You shifty little Schiff,
    To string him up together
    And throw him in a pit.

    We’ll push this through the Congress.
    He’ll have no place to run.
    We’ll beat him with subpoenas.
    And dig until we’ve won.

    Trump cannot deny us
    Our justice and our hate.
    We have all the power
    To impeach and subjugate.

    Now lighten up your torches
    And grab your bully sticks.
    We’ll march against Republicans
    Like the Bolsheviks.

    The Senate has the documents.
    She handed out the pens.
    Pelosi ripped the papers.
    Before the bitter end.

    For the mob that was assembled
    Their mission was a ruse.
    The President was acquitted.
    The torches were diffused.

    So, If you see another
    disgraceful witch hunt fraud,
    Remember, the time of victory
    O’er the Trump Impeachment mob!

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  3. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Columbo (View Comment):

    Gary’s party.

    Or…

    My feeling here is one of “Ugh!” for most of the Democrats, and overt revulsion for AOC and Bernie.

    To include one of the greatest and bravest nominees in history, Mitt Romney, with the Democrats is blasphemy in my mind. Romney is almost a saint, in that he refused for admire the emperor’s new clothing, and history will be very, very kind to Romney.

    What you call “blasphemy” is what actually happened. The painting is titled “The Impeachment Mob”. And Mitt Romney sided with the Democrats on that.

    Romney will be seen as a saint who is worthy of a profile in courage.   Historians will wonder if John McCain would have also had the similar testicular fortitude.  I think that McCain would have along with Jeff Flake, a former Arizona Senator.  With McCain’s additional vote, perhaps we would have had witnesses, and would have also gotten votes from Collins, Murkowski and Alexander.  Oh, well.

     

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  4. Mim526 Inactive
    Mim526
    @Mim526

    danok1 (View Comment):

    Ah, Teddy Roosevelt. One of the original progressives and a fan of executive power and control. He paved the way for Wilson, the only fascist president of the USA.

    We can probably trace the government’s ownership of way too much US land (should belong to US citizens) to Teddy Roosevelt.  And I don’t like that increasingly it takes a Trump administration executive order to protect Americans when all Congress seems to be good for is find more ways to indebt us all (think I read we’re up around $100,000 per American now?)

    The TR contribution I appreciate is his anti-trust legacy.  The negative part of Standard Oil’s legacy lives on today in the rise of unions (which were necessary to combat abuse of American workers back then) and hold on US foreign policy particularly in Middle East.

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  5. Marjorie Reynolds Coolidge
    Marjorie Reynolds
    @MarjorieReynolds

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    To include one of the greatest and bravest nominees in history, Mitt Romney, with the Democrats is blasphemy in my mind. Romney is almost a saint, in that he refused for admire the emperor’s new clothing, and history will be very, very kind to Romney.

    Sometimes I think people are too hard on you here Gary but I think you’re losing the run of yourself here. Trump is what he is, I find many of his personal attributes off putting and his personal life in the past with all the affairs and divorces etc. But I don’t have to date him or marry him.
    From the moment he was elected, we’ve had nothing but media outrage over what he is, not what he’s done. He’s to blame for every bad thing that’s happened in your country since 2016, and by proxy for every bad thing before. I live in the middle of nowhere in Ireland Gary and not one hour from my house there’s a protest with F Trump banners. The world is going off the rails from hatred for one man for what he is, not for what he does. Does the vision of the world the democrats have been showing you not frighten you? Because it scares the hell out of me.

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  6. E. Kent Golding Moderator
    E. Kent Golding
    @EKentGolding

    EJHill (View Comment):
    I know there’s a concept of civic religion, but the idolatry is a bit much. 

    Like Like Like…..

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  7. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
    Gazpacho Grande'
    @ChrisCampion

    Judge Mental (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Is Lincoln holding aces and eights?

    He does have his back turned.

    You’d think he’d have learned.

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  8. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
    Gazpacho Grande'
    @ChrisCampion

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):
    I know there’s a concept of civic religion, but the idolatry is a bit much.

    Yeah, I’m not crazy about the irony-free hagiography either. I prefer some jokey excess, where they’re on a tank with an eagle on each shoulder and a bazooka in one hand.

    The painting with Trump is odd, and different from the rest – he’s not engaging with the others, but seems to be staring at the viewer. Probably a conscious aesthetic choice, either to underscore his disassociation from his predecessors or engage the indulgent viewer, or both. It doesn’t work.

    The Democrat version is fascinating. Wilson is reacting to something LBJ said, and doesn’t seem happy: what do you mean, Civil Rights? FDR and Truman are laughing about something, possibly how fast Hirohito scampered to the bargaining table after that one-two punch in August. Carter is the nerd who wants to be part of the big-dog pack but knows they all view him as a wimp. Clinton will hit him up for beer money and Jimmy will give him a lecture before he gives him the money, which is what Clinton knew he’d do in the end. Carter feels like maybe Bill got what he was saying, but Bill shook his head when he was out of Carter’s sight – that guy, you can get anything out of him if you just let him read his sermon. JFK is on the outskirts of the group because he just dropped in to see how the party was going, but he’s got to get back to the room where the girls are waiting.

    The picture of people nurturing a tender shoot growing from the stony ground is just sententious twaddle, and symbolically incoherent for a bonus – if you’re going to put a snake in a conservative painting, you do not tread on it.

    That was my small take.  What’s that about?  

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  9. Columbo Inactive
    Columbo
    @Columbo

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Columbo (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin Doesn’t C… (View Comment):

    Wrong thread!

    Gary’s party.

    Or…

    My feeling here is one of “Ugh!” for most of the Democrats, and overt revulsion for AOC and Bernie.

    To include one of the greatest and bravest nominees in history, Mitt Romney, with the Democrats is blasphemy in my mind. Romney is almost a saint, in that he refused for admire the emperor’s new clothing, and history will be very, very kind to Romney.

    It’s a binary result. President Trump or Nancy and the looters, and their enablers like Mitt and others.

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  10. Hang On Member
    Hang On
    @HangOn

    Clearly you live in romantisized dream world that never has nor ever will exist. 

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  11. danok1 Member
    danok1
    @danok1

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    My fond hope is to airbrush Trump from American History, “as if it never happened.” Trump will someday be held with the same revulsion of Joe McCarthy, a terrible, terrible mistake where we lost our way.

    Except the Verona files and other papers show McCarthy was right.

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  12. Bishop Wash Member
    Bishop Wash
    @BishopWash

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    My fond hope is to airbrush Trump from American History, “as if it never happened.” Trump will someday be held with the same revulsion of Joe McCarthy, a terrible, terrible mistake where we lost our way.

    Or Trump will be recognized as one trying to install a bulwark against the destructive forces trying to destroy America. 

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  13. Miffed White Male Member
    Miffed White Male
    @MiffedWhiteMale

    EJHill (View Comment):

    The bottom line for November* is that you have a egotistical and somewhat unfocused Donald Trump pitted against the former Vice President who is obviously entering the early stages of dementia and who will be manipulated by those who are enabling this new version of the Maoist Cultural Revolution, where dissent will not be tolerated, not even in one’s own family. If you think there’s chaos in the streets now, behold the words of the late Al Jolson, “You ain’t seen nothin’ yet!”

    *And no, there’s no viable alternative. There may be 30 names on the ballot but only the D or the R will have a realistic chance of winning.

    One could almost describe it as a “binary choice”.

     

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  14. Miffed White Male Member
    Miffed White Male
    @MiffedWhiteMale

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Historians will wonder if John McCain would have also had the similar testicular fortitude.

    The guy that ran for re-election on overturning the ACA, and then cast the deciding vote to keep it?

     

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  15. danok1 Member
    danok1
    @danok1

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    My fond hope is to airbrush Trump from American History, “as if it never happened.” Trump will someday be held with the same revulsion of Joe McCarthy, a terrible, terrible mistake where we lost our way.

    So you want to “memory hole” Trump and his administration(s)? How very Orwellian, nay, totalitarian of you.

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  16. Bob Thompson Member
    Bob Thompson
    @BobThompson

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    When I look at the Democrats, I have varying levels of revulsion. I am especially negative towards Jackson, Wilson, FDR and Johnson. I much prefer all of the Republicans shown in the post’s picture. As for the revised picture that includes Nixon and Trump, my level of revulsion for Trump is on par with Jackson, Wilson, and FDR.

    Gary, I think this illustrates why you are unable to convince your friends here at Ricochet. The above indicates your revulsion is likely connected to political positions, issues, and actions. But your constant refrain on Trump is about character but you don’t even mention Kennedy in your revulsion comment about the Democrat presidents. I must assume you think his character is acceptable.  Judging someone like Trump that way appears unChristian as well, if that part means anything to you.

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  17. Bob Thompson Member
    Bob Thompson
    @BobThompson

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    The bottom line for November* is that you have a egotistical and somewhat unfocused Donald Trump pitted against the former Vice President who is obviously entering the early stages of dementia and who will be manipulated by those who are enabling this new version of the Maoist Cultural Revolution, where dissent will not be tolerated, not even in one’s own family. If you think there’s chaos in the streets now, behold the words of the late Al Jolson, “You ain’t seen nothin’ yet!”

    *And no, there’s no viable alternative. There may be 30 names on the ballot but only the D or the R will have a realistic chance of winning.

    One could almost describe it as a “binary choice”.

     

    Yes, and the Democrats have certainly cleared the air with respect to where they want to take us.

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  18. DrewInWisconsin Doesn't Care Member
    DrewInWisconsin Doesn't Care
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    The artist is Jon McNaughton, and he does exceptionally good work.

    This picture of Trump Crossing the Potomac is nauseating in its obsequiousness, and is the type of heliography I would expect in North Korea.

    The picture of the shoot being nurtured is okay, in that it appears that Trump is a manifestation of the snake itself, as if Trump is from the House of Slytherin.

    You’re referencing Harry Potter? Is a millennial now running the Gary Robbins account?

     

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  19. DrewInWisconsin Doesn't Care Member
    DrewInWisconsin Doesn't Care
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    My fond hope is to airbrush Trump from American History, “as if it never happened.”

    How very Stalinist of you. But then you’re supporting the right party if that’s your wish.

     

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  20. Steve C. Member
    Steve C.
    @user_531302

    Eisenhower was a legendary poker player. He is a spectator.

    Legend has it, Nixon used war time poker winnings as seed money for his first congressional campaign. He’s missing completely.

    Another demonstration of how Americans forget their own history.

     

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  21. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Columbo (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Columbo (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin Doesn’t C… (View Comment):

    Wrong thread!

    Gary’s party.

    Or…

    My feeling here is one of “Ugh!” for most of the Democrats, and overt revulsion for AOC and Bernie.

    To include one of the greatest and bravest nominees in history, Mitt Romney, with the Democrats is blasphemy in my mind. Romney is almost a saint, in that he refused for admire the emperor’s new clothing, and history will be very, very kind to Romney.

    It’s a binary result. President Trump or Nancy and the looters, and their enablers like Mitt and others.

    I respectfully reject this.  And if you force me to make a binary choice, for the first time since 1972 I will be voting for a Democrat for President.

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  22. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Historians will wonder if John McCain would have also had the similar testicular fortitude.

    The guy that ran for re-election on overturning the ACA, and then cast the deciding vote to keep it?

    What Senator McCain said was that the repeal of the ACA needed to be returned to the Senate Health committee under regular order and if it wasn’t, he would vote against its repeal.  It wasn’t referred to the Health Committee and McCain followed through with his statement.

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  23. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    danok1 (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    My fond hope is to airbrush Trump from American History, “as if it never happened.” Trump will someday be held with the same revulsion of Joe McCarthy, a terrible, terrible mistake where we lost our way.

    So you want to “memory hole” Trump and his administration(s)? How very Orwellian, nay, totalitarian of you.

    I want to relegate Trump and Trumpism to the ash heap of history.  

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  24. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    When I look at the Democrats, I have varying levels of revulsion. I am especially negative towards Jackson, Wilson, FDR and Johnson. I much prefer all of the Republicans shown in the post’s picture. As for the revised picture that includes Nixon and Trump, my level of revulsion for Trump is on par with Jackson, Wilson, and FDR.

    Gary, I think this illustrates why you are unable to convince your friends here at Ricochet. The above indicates your revulsion is likely connected to political positions, issues, and actions. But your constant refrain on Trump is about character but you don’t even mention Kennedy in your revulsion comment about the Democrat presidents. I must assume you think his character is acceptable. Judging someone like Trump that way appears unChristian as well, if that part means anything to you.

    Actually no.  I am simply more repulsed by Jackson, Wilson, FDR and Johnson.

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  25. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Steve C. (View Comment):

    Eisenhower was a legendary poker player. He is a spectator.

    Legend has it, Nixon used war time poker winnings as seed money for his first congressional campaign. He’s missing completely.

    Another demonstration of how Americans forget their own history.

    Ike looks better and better.  He was constantly misunderestimated.

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  26. JamesSalerno Inactive
    JamesSalerno
    @JamesSalerno

    Party worship is creepy and un-American.

    Many of those Republicans have nothing in common outside of their party. Teddy Roosevelt was the first legislative agenda, executive abuse president. Nixon gave the left everything they wanted, which is why it baffles me that liberals hate him so much. And it’s hard to see anything either George Bush has in common with Calvin Coolidge.

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  27. namlliT noD Member
    namlliT noD
    @DonTillman

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Romney will be seen as a saint who is worthy of a profile in courage. Historians will wonder if John McCain would have also had the similar testicular fortitude.

    McCain and Romney will both be remembered for not having the testicular fortitude to live up to their promise to try win an election against a Socialist who never had a job before.

    And that’s why you have Trump.

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  28. Miffed White Male Member
    Miffed White Male
    @MiffedWhiteMale

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Historians will wonder if John McCain would have also had the similar testicular fortitude.

    The guy that ran for re-election on overturning the ACA, and then cast the deciding vote to keep it?

    What Senator McCain said was that the repeal of the ACA needed to be returned to the Senate Health committee under regular order and if it wasn’t, he would vote against its repeal. It wasn’t referred to the Health Committee and McCain followed through with his statement.

    He said that during the campaign?  Seems like an unusual campaign statement.

    What I know is that he campaigned on repeal, then, knowing that *his* vote would kill repeal, went ahead and voted it down.  He can retroactively try to justify it all he wants – it sounds a lot like “I voted for it before I voted against it”.

     

     

     

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  29. Jon1979 Inactive
    Jon1979
    @Jon1979

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Columbo (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Columbo (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin Doesn’t C… (View Comment):

    Wrong thread!

    Gary’s party.

    Or…

    My feeling here is one of “Ugh!” for most of the Democrats, and overt revulsion for AOC and Bernie.

    To include one of the greatest and bravest nominees in history, Mitt Romney, with the Democrats is blasphemy in my mind. Romney is almost a saint, in that he refused for admire the emperor’s new clothing, and history will be very, very kind to Romney.

    It’s a binary result. President Trump or Nancy and the looters, and their enablers like Mitt and others.

    I respectfully reject this. And if you force me to make a binary choice, for the first time since 1972 I will be voting for a Democrat for President.

    So what you’re saying is when the Democrats present their most overt and militantly progressive party platform since the McGovernites threw Bill Daley and the Chicago machine pols out of the DNC Convention in Miami 48 years ago, for their lack of fidelity to The Cause, this is the year you pick to come home to the Democratic Party?

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  30. danok1 Member
    danok1
    @danok1

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    danok1 (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    My fond hope is to airbrush Trump from American History, “as if it never happened.” Trump will someday be held with the same revulsion of Joe McCarthy, a terrible, terrible mistake where we lost our way.

    So you want to “memory hole” Trump and his administration(s)? How very Orwellian, nay, totalitarian of you.

    I want to relegate Trump and Trumpism to the ash heap of history.

    Yeah, that’s quite different than your original statement. “Ash heap of history” means (at least to me) that a system or philosophy has been found severely wanting and is relegated to history, only used as instruction on what doesn’t work.

    What you actually said, “…airbrush Trump from American History, ‘as if it never happened,'” is exactly what Stalin and other totalitarians did. 

    You know we can read and quote what you write and comment here, right?

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