#NeverBernie, or What I Saw in Las Vegas

 

I believe that Bernie Sanders poses an existential danger to our Republic, so is it incumbent on me to do all that I can to stop him. To that end, after leaving work on Friday, I drove 250+ miles to Las Vegas. Once I arrived, I googled “Nevada Biden Office” and drove to the nearest office, arriving at 9:16 p.m. after they had finished their last class.

I spoke to the staffer asking how I could help. She gave me a crash course on how to be a “Precinct Captain.” I learned more about the byzantine nine-step caucus procedures that probably 99% of people who have not been in a caucus know about. It was mind-numbing. I was then given a bag with written instructions, a t-shirt with “Biden Precinct Captain” emblazoned on it inside an outline of Nevada, and a huge four-inch button with Joe’s smiling face and “Biden Precinct Captain” on it. Ah, the swag! I then went to Walmart to get a battery pack to supplement my iPhone. The first hotel I went to was sold out. I finally tumbled into bed just before 1 a.m. I set my alarm to get up at 5 a.m. given that I had a 6:45 a.m. meeting to go to.

I woke up at 4:58 a.m. Was I tired? Sure. But I was energized. I zoomed over to “The Strat” (formerly known as “The Stratosphere”) and went to their Starbucks to meet with other “out of town” team members. I was 15 minutes early. I followed the Jack Reacher maxim to never miss a chance to eat, so I got oatmeal and a Danish. (I was surprised to discover that unlike any other Starbucks I have ever gone to, this Starbucks charged for soymilk for my oatmeal. The server noted “I am on camera” as she apologized.)

We had a great crew of people, several from Arizona and California who had driven in and one man who had flown in from New York! Then we were sent off to another Biden Headquarters to receive more last-minute instructions. While there, I picked up more tee-shirts. Then I was off to Desert Oasis High School in Enterprise, Nevada. Since I was running early, I followed the Jack Reacher maxim and stopped at Denny’s to fuel up.

I got to Desert Oasis High School before 9:30 a.m. This was the time for the campaign staff to check-in. Since I was out of state, I was given an orange armband designating that I was an “observer” and could not talk once the caucus started. The Bernie campaign had the most volunteers, followed by Pete, Joe, Amy, Steyer, and Warren. All of the volunteers were respectful and friendly. The most common statement by a volunteer for Campaign A to a volunteer for Campaign B was to praise the strong points of the other candidate. (Note: I did not strike up any conversations with anyone from the Bernie campaign, as I have nothing positive to say about him.) At 10:00 a.m. the doors were opened to the voters. The place was packed. There were massive lines some 20 deep. But there was no complaining. Of note, some of the early voting sites had had waits of up to four hours, so this was seen as a better option. By far, the most popular person in the cavernous hallway was a member of the Nevada Assembly who was there to hand out free water bottles to her constituents. Smart lady.

I was given the list of people from my precinct who were “1’s” and “2’s” and was told to call them. I left voice-mail messages and a couple of messages with people who relay to the voters. I got two voters. One said that she had a family emergency and could not come. The other one, Valerie, said that that she would be seeing me at the Middle School. “Oh no, they have combined precincts, we will be at Desert Oasis High School.” “Thank you, dear, I would have gone to the middle school, and then would have gone home. How will I recognize you?” “I am a 67-year-old bald man.” “I will look forward to visiting with you.” More about Valerie later.

At noon, they stopped accepting voters. The toughest job in the room was to be designated as a “stopper,” the person who would stand at the end of the line and not allow anyone else into the line.

I stood behind where people were checking in and offered them “Team Joe” stickers. Next to me was a nice lady who was begging people to consider Amy as their second choice.

Despite the long lines, people were of good cheer and chatted to each other. My precinct area started to slowly fill up. I mentioned that since I was out of state, once the caucus began, I would not speak once the caucus got going. I asked if any Biden voters would be willing to serve as “Biden Precinct Co-Captains” noting that they would get a cool t-shirt like mine and a huge four-inch button. Two women volunteered and I gave them their swag.

I was walking by an elderly black woman with a cane. She said “Gary?” My response was “You must be Valerie! I am so happy to see you!”

We finally got started at 1:20 p.m. We had 19 voters, and observers from the Biden, Sanders, and Klobuchar campaigns. (The three observers and the Precinct Chair had all parachuted in from out-of-state.) We then started this intricate process. First, we elected our Precinct Chair. Then she asked for someone who had clear handwriting to serve as our Precinct Secretary. Two different people counted the 19 voters present. Okay. Please raise your hand if you are voting for Biden. Six hands went up. The Chair saw that Valerie had a cane, so she asked that Biden voters all cluster around her. The original alignment of people present was as follows:

  • 6 Biden
  • 5 Buttigieg
  • 3 Sanders
  • 5 Warren

I was thrilled. Sanders had only three people. Ha, ha, ha.

The next step was the great reveal of what the “early votes” were. Ugh. They were as follows:

  • 1 Bennet
  • 4 Biden
  • 5 Buttigieg
  • 25 Sanders
  • 4 Steyer
  • 2 Warren
  • 1 Yang

Ugh. 25 for Sanders! Yikes! Adding the numbers together we had:

  • 1 Bennet
  • 10 Biden
  • 10 Buttigieg
  • 28 Sanders
  • 4 Steyer
  • 7 Warren
  • 1 Yang

The total number of people was 63. 15% of 63 is 9.45 people. Rounding up would be 10 people. Biden and Buttigieg were barely viable. Warren was not. The five Warren voters were crest-fallen. They were such a committed earnest group. I felt sorry for them (but not sorry for Warren as she is almost as bad as Bernie). I turned to Valerie. “You made the difference. If you hadn’t been here, we would not be viable.” She smiled back at me.

The early voters had to designate their first three to five choices on their early votes, so those votes were reassigned as follows to the three viable candidates:

  • 6 Biden
  • 10 Buttigieg
  • 27 Sanders

Then the poor five Warren supporters were given a harsh choice. They could join the Biden, Buttigieg, or Sanders groups. Or they could leave. The five crushed Warren supporters consoled each other. They were heartbroken. They did not understand how anyone could not see the obvious merits of Warren. The Chair said that each of the five would need to make their own decision. The three remaining groups were each given one minute to make a pitch to the forlorn Warren supporters. The Sanders voter said “Elizabeth was my second choice. Please join us.” I forget what the Buttigieg voter said. The Biden voters turned to me to speak. I said that I couldn’t speak as I was not a Nevada voter. One of my appointed “Co-Captains” then stood up and said that Biden had the best chance of beating Trump. People started joking about washing a Warren voter’s car if they would join their group.

Biden got only one of the five Warren voters, and Buttigieg and Sanders each got two of the Warren voters.

The final result adding the early votes and the voters in the room was:

  • 13 Biden
  • 17 Buttigieg
  • 32 Sanders

We had nine delegates to send to the County Convention. There were 62 votes altogether. (One of the early voters did not include Biden, Buttigieg or Warren, so their vote didn’t count.)

Here’s how the math went:

  • Biden: 13 X 9 / 62 = 1.8571 delegates
  • Buttigieg: 17 X 9 / 62 = 2.4286 delegates
  • Sanders: 32 X 9 / 62 = 4.5714 delegates

Using the first round of rounding this ended up with

  • Biden: 2 delegates
  • Buttigieg: 2 delegates
  • Sanders: 5 delegates

Since we were assigned nine delegates, this all worked out.

However, there are terribly complicated rules as to how to round up if this had resulted in eight delegates or round down if there were 10 delegates. If those rules ended in a tie, then we entered the world of chance. In Iowa, they flipped coins. But this was Nevada. They would draw cards, with an Ace being high and a Two being low. If they had the same number, then they went by suits, with Spades, Hearts, Diamonds, and Clubs in that order. Thank goodness we didn’t get to that level of detail. (This is not unlike the NFL where one year under Tom Landry where the Cowboys had to beat the Redskins by at least 15 points in the final week of the season to get past the eighth or so tie-breaker. What a mess.)

The final step was to elect delegates to the County Convention. The three people who had made pitches to the Warren delegates all decided that they wanted to go to the County Convention. I assume that the other delegates will be filled in by their campaigns in the future.

The observers took pictures of the worksheet and texted it to our headquarters. At 2:50 p.m. we were done.

I got back on the road to Flagstaff. I was dead tired. I had resolved to stop driving long distances at night in the last year. But heck, Flagstaff was only 250 miles away. I zoomed along the interstate. I noticed that I had a sore throat coming on. It began to rain. The sky grew dark. And I persisted. When I arrived in Kingman, I decided to drive through town. I then noticed blue and red lights wig-wagging behind me. I pulled over. The officer came up to me.

“Do you know why I stopped you?”

“No.”

“Do you notice that it is raining?”

“Yes.”

“Do you notice that it is twilight?”

“Yes.”

“What would that suggest to you?”

I paused and could not think of the answer. Then, “Oh, I should turn on my lights.”

“Yes. I flashed my brights at you twice, but you ignored me. Are you almost home?”

“No, I live in Flagstaff [150 miles away].”

“You might want to get a room to stay the night as you appear to be exhausted. I don’t want to scrape your body off of the pavement.”

I took this as good advice. When I was in my 20s I would be in a seminar in LA until 2 a.m. and then drive 400 miles to get home. Driving 150 miles is a piece of cake. But I am now 67 years old. I got a room, and then treated myself to a nice dinner. I went to bed at 9. I slept for 11 hours.

A final thought. Caucuses may have made sense 100 years ago when people needed focus groups to come to decisions. But they appear to be hugely ineffective and inefficient. My heart went out to Valerie who was exhausted by the process. I hope that we have seen the last caucuses in America. They are a relic that needs to be retired.

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  1. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    Franco (View Comment):
    There are two reasons why establishment Democrats oppose him 1) he’s not in their cabal of grifting and he will upset their schemes

    Young Democrats think it’s time to get rid of all the old grifters and bring in a new set (themselves, for example.)

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  2. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    @garyrobbins, that was a wonderful piece of shoeleather reporting. Thank you.

    • #92
  3. Petty Boozswha Inactive
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    Thanks Gary. I just watched the debate and don’t think I’ve ever been more depressed about the future of this country. I think I’m going to leave the presidential line blank and vote the Republican ticket below.

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  4. Gary Robbins Member
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    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):

    Thanks Gary. I just watched the debate and don’t think I’ve ever been more depressed about the future of this country. I think I’m going to leave the presidential line blank and vote the Republican ticket below.

    That’s a real temptation.  

    Someone said what I am really afraid of; that after Trump, we would have DJTJ, Donald Trump, Jr. in 2024.  

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  5. ToryWarWriter Coolidge
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    @garyrobbins

    Thanks for writing this.  I am fascinated by America process and this was great write up.

    I am not a never Trumper but I will say that I am a strong believer in a candidate earns your vote.  Dont let anyone peer pressure you into doing something you dont want to do.  If Trump doesnt deserve your vote then dont give it to him.  

    I do think by your report you did more work to help him out though than most people here on Ricochet though with your actions in Nevada :)

    I will say that the party of Reagan was necessary to get Reagan elected and worked very well in the Reagan era.  But the time has changed and we need people to understand that what worked in the 80s to defeat one group of enemies has no place in the world of today.  What worked to defeat the Kaiser in WW1 was completely ineffective 20 years later to defeat Hitler.  

    The party of Reagan is never coming back.  Just like the Democratic party is never going to be the party of JFK again.

    Things move on and we have to adjust with the times.  Or be defeated.  

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  6. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):

    Thanks Gary. I just watched the debate and don’t think I’ve ever been more depressed about the future of this country. I think I’m going to leave the presidential line blank and vote the Republican ticket below.

    That’s a real temptation.

    Someone said what I am really afraid of; that after Trump, we would have DJTJ, Donald Trump, Jr. in 2024.

    Hey, it might not be Don Jr. We could have Jared Kushner….

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  7. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Good to see you are out of the closet and connecting with your inner Democrat.

    #NeverTrump and #NeverBernie.

    LOL. Seems you are out of step with Republicans, and Democrats.

     

    No shame in that, sign of a man who thinks for himself. 

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  8. Sisyphus Member
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    Kozak (View Comment):

     

    Dementia is a terrible thing to see.

     

    Or he was just tired. I was tired once, and I’m not as old as Biden. And he has doubtless said that line a million times in more appropriate contexts.

    Or he is switching to run for the Senate and just forgot he hadn’t publicly announced it yet.

    Personally, I despise him for a long career of unbridled kleptocratic grifting. (My spelling dictionary was unaware of either of those last two words. Apple is such a big brother.) But Trump doesn’t have the guts to prosecute the crooks who tried to run him out of office on bogus charges. And he’s orange. And has teeny, tiny hands.

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  9. James Lileks Contributor
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    ToryWarWriter (View Comment):

    The party of Reagan is never coming back. Just like the Democratic party is never going to be the party of JFK again.

    Things move on and we have to adjust with the times. Or be defeated.

    Yes . . . and no. One could make the point that the Trump era’s effect on the judiciary will have more far-reaching consequences than the Reagan era. If Trump nominates another SCOTUS member, and the administrative state starts to take some serious body-blows (non-delegation cases, baby!) there’s a shot at dislodging the unelected overlords who make law write policies that undermine the Constitution. 

    Adjusting tactics may achieve results Reagan would smile upon. The inheritors of Reagan’s legacy did squat-all to delegitimize the administrative state, because they became enamored of the spoils of governance, and gave lip service to diminishing the powers of DC. And so we are here, with all the old certainties and assumptions in disarray. That the other side’s reaction is MOAR SOCIALISM tells you what they are, when push comes to shove-’em-into-the-cattle-cars. 

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  10. Sisyphus Member
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    There are seven major symptoms of alcoholic Korsakoff syndrome (amnestic-confabulatory syndrome):

    1. anterograde amnesia, memory loss for events after the onset of the syndrome
    2. retrograde amnesia, memory loss extends back for some time before the onset of the syndrome
    3. amnesia of fixation, also known as fixation amnesia (loss of immediate memory, a person being unable to remember events of the past few minutes)[2][3][4]
    4. confabulation, that is, invented memories which are then taken by the patient as true due to gaps in memory, with such gaps sometimes associated with blackouts
    5. minimal content in conversation
    6. lack of insight
    7. apathy – the patients lose interest in things quickly, and generally appear indifferent to change.

    Wow! Seven for seven! Does that mean if I start drinking now, I can use it as an excuse?

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    Sisyphus (View Comment):
    Personally, I despise him for a long career of unbridled kleptocratic grifting. (My spelling dictionary was unaware of either of those last two words. Apple is such a big brother.)

    Apple can allow those words, of course, but only if you use them on Republicans.

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  12. Saint Augustine Member
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    ToryWarWriter (View Comment):

    The party of Reagan is never coming back. Just like the Democratic party is never going to be the party of JFK again.

    Things move on and we have to adjust with the times. Or be defeated.

    Yes . . . and no. One could make the point that the Trump era’s effect on the judiciary will have more far-reaching consequences than the Reagan era. . . .

    Amen!

    I was the first to click “Like”!  I win.

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  13. The Reticulator Member
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    At last you’re consistent in your support for corrupt establishment types. 

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  14. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
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    Norm McDonald (View Comment):

    Classic tune, but the lyrics have always bugged me:

    Is it any wonder I’m not a criminal?
    Is it any wonder I’m not in jail?
    Is it any wonder I’ve got
    Too much time on my hands?
    It’s ticking away with my sanity

    What does that even mean?  “Is it any wonder I’m a criminal, is it any wonder I’ve spent time in jail” would make more sense.  In fact it is indeed a wonder you’re not a criminal, what with all that idle time on your hands…

    Now back to your regularly scheduled political discussion.

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  15. Sisyphus Member
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    rgbact (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

     

    You may be right. On the other hand, if Bernie wins, it will be a very dark day for our Republic.

    Keep in mind Gary, if Trump wins, then we’re going to get Trump JR in 2024 guaranteed. Bernie’s followers otoh want action, not just a Twitter warrior. When he’s actually elected, and gets nothing done and the government is shutting down every 4 months and ISIS runs wild and he has no major media defenders……his incompetence will be fully owned by the Left. So, I’d hold off on NeverBernie. Play the long game.

    No way. Ivanka will crush junior in the primaries. She’s the brains of that outfit.

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  16. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Joseph Stanko (View Comment):

    Norm McDonald (View Comment):

    Classic tune, but the lyrics have always bugged me:

    Is it any wonder I’m not a criminal?
    Is it any wonder I’m not in jail?
    Is it any wonder I’ve got
    Too much time on my hands?
    It’s ticking away with my sanity

    What does that even mean? “Is it any wonder I’m a criminal, is it any wonder I’ve spent time in jail” would make more sense. In fact it is indeed a wonder you’re not a criminal, what with all that idle time on your hands…

    Now back to your regularly scheduled political discussion.

    I think it makes sense, based on the idea of idle hands being the devil’s plaything. Having too much time without anything to do means it’s surprising Tommy Shaw is not a criminal and is not in jail, because if you don’t have work or something to preoccupy you, you’re more likely to get into trouble (You could also use the song as an argument against Andrew Yang’s Universal Basic Income, because all those people with federal cash and no jobs will have too much time on their hands and many are bound to end up as criminals in jail).

    Now they lyrics to “Mr. Roboto” — that’s totally inexplicable. As is the song “Mr. Roboto”.

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  17. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Someone said what I am really afraid of; that after Trump, we would have DJTJ, Donald Trump, Jr. in 2024.

    Hey, it might not be Don Jr. We could have Jared Kushner….

    Barron Trump 2044!

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  18. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    Having too much time without anything to do means it’s surprising Tommy Shaw is not a criminal and is not in jail

    Right, that’s exactly my point!  The phrase “is it any wonder” means something that’s not surprising, as in “Is it any wonder Bernie wants to outlaw private insurance?  He’s a commie!”

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  19. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    Now they lyrics to “Mr. Roboto” — that’s totally inexplicable. As is the song “Mr. Roboto”.

    I think you mean “inexplicably brilliant.”

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  20. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Meanwhile, in the world of professional punditeers in support of Biden, we basically have a “Help me, Obama-wan, you’re my only hope” moment:

    If nothing else, he’s not going down without a fight before he finally has to try to explain why he’s endorsing Bernie for conservative reasons…..

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  21. BastiatJunior Member
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    drlorentz (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I am a Reagan Republican. I want the Party of Reagan to return.

    Okay boomer.

    Stop living in the past. Reagan was last president over thirty years ago. When younger folks hear Reagan Republican it makes them think of Joe Biden (viz. #12, supra).

    This is why the Stupid Party loses: looking backwards to long-dead figures from the past instead of putting forth younger, more charismatic, leaders with conservative ideals. Even the Left has learned this loser-like behavior, fielding a geriatric set of candidates with health issues (cf., Bernie & Joe) who bring failed ideas from the past (communism and corporate neoliberalism, respectively) with a patina of wokism to appear fresh and new.

    I’m taking Gary’s side on this point.

    Reagan is the Gold Standard of modern presidents.  Yes, times have changed and our needs have changed, but Reagan brought with him concepts that were true then, true now and will be true tomorrow.  When Reagan wasn’t battling communists, he was battling the left.  Actually he battled both simultaneously.  Fiercely.  He was able to put the left on the defensive, so much that I though the era of leftism was over.  Reagan also had 90% negative press coverage.

    Sadly, the Republican Party was resolute in its refusal to learn the lessons of the Reagan era.

    However, unlike Gary, my respect for Reagan has led me to become a Trump supporter.

    Trump isn’t Reagan, but his success in office is due to the fact that he is more Reagan-like than his two Republican predecessors, both named Bush.  Trump is a free market president (outside of tariffs) who reduced the role of government in the economy.  He also takes the battle to the Democrats like no “normal” Republican I’ve ever seen.

    Support for free markets and fighting the left are just two of the timeless concepts both Presidents brought to the table.

    There will never be another Reagan and there will never be another Trump.  Both Presidents offer lessons the Republican Party would do well to learn.

     

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  22. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    Now they lyrics to “Mr. Roboto” — that’s totally inexplicable.

    In a future where rock music is outlawed by the Majority for Musical Morality, former rock star Robert Orin Charles Kilroy has been imprisoned by MMM leader Dr. Everett Righteous.  He escapes disguised as a robot when he becomes aware that a young musician, Jonathan Chance, is on a mission to bring rock music back.

    I mean really, isn’t it obvious?

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  23. The Reticulator Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    At last you’re consistent in your support for corrupt establishment types.

    Come to think of it, maybe not so consistent. Maybe not a one time thing, as there have been others before Joe, but  you get no special award for consistency.

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  24. Freeven Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    We lost the House in 2018.

    As per usual for a midterm election for a newly incumbent president. What was unusual was the gains in the Senate. You keep repeating this as if it’s a slam dunk argument. It isn’t.

    Yes and no.

    It is usual for the incumbent party to lose some House seats in the midterm election. However, the gross percentage votes for all Republican candidates for the House versus the gross percentage votes for all Democrat candidates took a huge nosedive, much higher than what we would usually see at a midterm.

    As for the Senate, there were very few Republican seats up, and lots of Democrat seats up in 2018. Percentage wise we should have done much, much better.

    It might be helpful, for context, to compare 2018 with 2010–both first time mid-terms for controversial presidents. I’d be interested to know the results but not enough to do the heavy lifting (at least right now).

     

    Turns out that was the right question to ask.

    Yea, and I was wrong dammit! And you were right! Oh well. One less argument I can make about Trump. Grr.

    This response screams for some deep introspection.

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  25. TBA Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    rgbact (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

     

    You may be right. On the other hand, if Bernie wins, it will be a very dark day for our Republic.

    Keep in mind Gary, if Trump wins, then we’re going to get Trump JR in 2024 guaranteed. Bernie’s followers otoh want action, not just a Twitter warrior. When he’s actually elected, and gets nothing done and the government is shutting down every 4 months and ISIS runs wild and he has no major media defenders……his incompetence will be fully owned by the Left. So, I’d hold off on NeverBernie. Play the long game.

    The prospect of DJTJ in 2024 is reason enough to vote against Trump and to stop the Trumpization of the Republican Party.

    OK, this is just silly – like a lame SF movie where you goes back in time to kill Hitler’s father in order to prevent the Holocaust. 

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  26. Kozak Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I have not voted for a Democrat for President since 1972. On the other hand, I have voted third party three times.

    This is a fascinating tidbit on our Reagan Republican™.   We know you voted against Trump.  

    That would mean you didn’t vote for 2 of Ford, Reagan, Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain or Romney.

    Personally I’ve been voting since 1976 and have never failed to vote for the Republican since then.

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  27. Kozak Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Um, Trump was only at 91% in the New Hampshire Primary,

    LOL. Only 91%

    Didn’t he set a record for votes cast for an incumbent?

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  28. Kozak Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    . Of course, in the Soviet State of Arizona, we don’t have no stinking elections in the Republican Party this year.

    Take it to your state party. Their decision to save the money to try and beat Democrats.

    And you got to play in the NV caucus, so be happy.

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  29. Kozak Member
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    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    rgbact (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

     

    You may be right. On the other hand, if Bernie wins, it will be a very dark day for our Republic.

    Keep in mind Gary, if Trump wins, then we’re going to get Trump JR in 2024 guaranteed. Bernie’s followers otoh want action, not just a Twitter warrior. When he’s actually elected, and gets nothing done and the government is shutting down every 4 months and ISIS runs wild and he has no major media defenders……his incompetence will be fully owned by the Left. So, I’d hold off on NeverBernie. Play the long game.

    No way. Ivanka will crush junior in the primaries. She’s the brains of that outfit.

    Melania gets a turn first.

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  30. Kozak Member
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    rgbact (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

     

    You may be right. On the other hand, if Bernie wins, it will be a very dark day for our Republic.

    Keep in mind Gary, if Trump wins, then we’re going to get Trump JR in 2024 guaranteed. Bernie’s followers otoh want action, not just a Twitter warrior. When he’s actually elected, and gets nothing done and the government is shutting down every 4 months and ISIS runs wild and he has no major media defenders……his incompetence will be fully owned by the Left. So, I’d hold off on NeverBernie. Play the long game.

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