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Trump Hated for Speaking the Truth
I was going to post this in Happy Warriors Ricochet group, but I think it deserves a wider audience. Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel nail it:
Throughout the impeachment drama, the press repeatedly told you that the president was a liar. They said his lies are why he had to be impeached. Donald Trump is a salesman; he is a talker, a booster, a compulsive self-promoter. If Trump hadn’t gotten rich in real estate, then he could’ve made a fortune selling cars. Most people know this.
So is lying really the reason the left despises Trump? Or could the problem be, as is so often the case, the exact opposite of what they claim? What drives them completely crazy are those moments when Trump dares to tell the truth. Think back over the last four years to when the CNN anchors have been angriest. Was it when Trump exaggerated his own accomplishments? No. They are used to that kind of lying from all politicians. What infuriates them is when Trump tells the truth. Truth is the real threat to their power.
Carlson and Patel don’t mention the Ukraine impeachment idiocy, but the same applies there. The Clinton campaign solicited foreign interference in the 2016 election by any means available. The Ukrainians probably know something about it (given its ties to Russia) and the Bidens are neck-deep in shenanigans there, given Obama’s appointment of Gropey Joe as the point-man on Ukraine to coincide with Hunter’s lucrative fake job with Burisma. Maybe the Bidens avoided outright illegality (doubtful), but there’s definitely corruption there. Does the media think we’re stupid? Don’t answer that.
No presidential candidate should be shielded from investigation by virtue of running for office — haven’t we learned that with the Russia (Hoax) Mueller investigation? How’s the FBI coming along with wiretaps and FISA warrants on the Biden campaign?
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I say False. They don’t hate him because he tells the truth. They hate him because he isn’t a progressive nincompoop. The same reason they hate you and I.
Gary’s involvement in this thread is why Happy Warriors. If he wants to argue his anti-Trump positions, he should start his own thread.
You’re wrong. They’re triggered when he speaks inconvenient truths. That’s very apparent.
I am never wrong.
Heh. My point proven.
On account of how smart I am.
Well, as long as ladders aren’t involved…
You like pushing buttons, don’t you?
We’re here to keep each other humble.
Every once in a while I think back to that day when I fell and got hurt. I don’t know if you saw my hand, but I remember looking at it and seeing how bad it was, and how I felt (I also fracture a bone in my other wrist, ruptured my Achilles in my right foot, and sprained the left ankle). I thought to myself as I lay there “I am effed. I am going to be effed for a long time.”
And here it is a year and a half later and I’m still suffering some effects from the fall, but I’m generally fine. It’s amazing.
I remember the picture well. I, too, thought you were effed.
I had my own moment of stupidity almost 40 years ago (thankfully no pictures) that left my back all covfefe.
I have no problem if never-Trumpers want to post on Ricochet. However, almost everything I’ve seen here has been focused more on him as a person instead of him as an elected official getting the job done. Repeating Democrat talking points is not an independent, critical analysis . . .
Oh there are people here who definitely idolize the man. Like Tucker Carlson. He knows damn well Trump lost his shirt in real estate, and made whatever money he has licencing his celebrity name to third party products.
You’re welcome to join Gary in thread expounding on the idolaters among us.
/I always love it when people who haven’t taken nearly the risks of an entrepreneur like Trump sneer at his failures and successes. So attractive.
You can count me among the Trump skeptics. For the record, I was a skeptic of Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Reagan.
Spin is correct. There was a telling moment in the last DNC debate. Klobacher attacked Mr. Pete hard and the calm and mild Pete reflexively fell back to “Pence was mean to me, because I’m gay.” That is a lie, but it goes to show that when in trouble the Dems will lie and spout hate, because it is in their political DNA.
Little defensive there, are we? I didn’t even mention you.
And I know I’m welcome to say whatever I please here, with or without your approval.
Oh and btw, what would you know about what risks I or anyone else here has taken in life? I know I didn’t start out on 3rd base like Donald Trump did to get to where I am today.
You underestimate me…
I sort of agree with you Chauvinista. Trump just talking nonsense is no threat. Trump following through on long standing talking points that nobody dreamed of ever implementing is. To the status quo. I don’t think the talking points will deliver – that’s why nobody ever intended to deliver on them. But they served a purpose. Trump is a disrupter – and perhaps the system needs that in order to break the logjam.
Sometimes I wonder if never-Trumpers are happy the Democrats retook the House in 2018 . . .
I consider it a little Christmas gift to have your (sort of) agreement, even if we probably don’t agree on the non-deliverable “talking points” (would you care to specify?). I think the ruling class (to include the media, which is supposed to be holding government to account by telling the truth about it to we the people) has become so comfortable in its privileged position, it exposes an ugly side of human nature — it’s contempt for the rest of us. Any of us in the same position would probably develop the same attitude. It needs to be challenged — bigly!
I’m defending Tucker Carlson. Would you call him a Trump idolater to his face? I doubt it.
We are a community encouraged to self-police. It’s my thread. I’m also free to say whatever I please (within the CoC) and I’ve asked people who like to call Trump supporters a “cult of personality” or “idolaters” to start their own thread so that I can ignore it. And I’ve asked politely. You’re welcome.
I don’t know what risks you’ve taken, but I do know your name isn’t familiar to me and you’re not president of the United States, so, I’m guessing they’re not comparable to what Trump has done in his lifetime. Just a guess.
Ha! Merry Christmas to you and your family, and inshallah we will all have a good 2020.
Some examples:
This whole the rest of NATO doesn’t pay it’s fair share thing. Who pays, says. So what happens when Europe, for example, becomes less dependent on the US? They become more independent and they start prosecuting their own agenda. What does that deliver? A unanimous front against Iran?
(Speaking of….further from nuclear weapons today than it was before America withdrew from the deal?)
Or the wall. Does that deal with either the push or the pull factors around illegal migration from Central America to the US?
All of it in line with what’s been said for years, but all of it with completely predictable negative consequences. Imho.
Yes, I agree again. Though I’d say that’s true for media that tells us (each of us) what we want to hear at least as much as for media that doesn’t.
These two statements do not contradict each other.
I think there’s a lot of overlap between that crowd and gleeful I-told-you-soers. It’s how so many of them have lost my sympathy over the years.
Some, especially among the neocons, strike me as people who are more at home in their former party, and ought to go back and try bring that party back sanity – or perhaps break it by starting one that appeals to the large base of reasonable liberals. (Just don’t try to name the Constitutional Party.)
I also believe that there are older voters who are experiencing the shock of seeing a man so uncouth in the White House. Whether they’ve considered the ways in which they went along with the culture shift that brought us to this point, I’m not sure… but the hysterics which have been dubbed “TDS” make me doubt it.
The quote said, “What drives them completely crazy are those moments when Trump dares to tell the truth. ” That is True. It wasn’t trying to explain why they hate him but when they go crazy with hatred. Yes, they hate him because he’s not progressive, but they hate everyone who holds conservative views because “the facts of life are conservative” (M. Thatcher) and it’s the truth of them that stand as a rebuke to progressivism.
Oh, you said culture “shift”.
Am I the only one who remembers how much the left loved Trump during the Primaries, the many Vox.com articles talking about having a giant New York Liberal Republican would be such a great thing.
And then as usual as soon as he locked the nomination he was literally Hitler, just like every Republican except for Ike before him.
But were they run off? Or did they decide that being here with us had become a waste of time? I don’t think it’s uncommon for people on political or social media sites to be interested in them only insofar as they believe there is an adoring audience.
My biggest gripe with Trump-skeptics on the Right is how unconvincing they are. To suggest it’s just one side of this debate that has become the salt throwers is just incorrect. (In fact, Trump supporters are easily the most humorous political coalition this country has ever seen.)
I completely agreed with you in 2016 that Trump would lose. We differed on what to do about it, I had an absentee ballot in my room for about 3 weeks before finally deciding that Hillary needed to go away forever.
I think the biggest mistake made by those of you I’d like to convert is that you believe there was any viable Republican brand left. People like Ronald Reagan & Donald Trump are sui generis. They only get elected in the first place because forces were tilting too far in one direction. They’re balancers. Our beef ought to be with the un-balancers.
I am. It provided a much needed check on Trump.
On the other hand, I had hoped that we would have learned a lesson when we lost women, the young, the college-educated and the suburbs in 2018, and would have moved away from Trump. That didn’t happen.
I am glad that we held the Senate for the confirmation of judges, however given that McConnell is trying to stop the calling of witnesses, in retrospect, I wish that we had only a razor thin margin.
All of this is 20-20 hindsight and thus is only marginally helpful.