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Vaccines Are Not Going to Kill You
This chart has been floating around Farcebook and other sociopathic media for awhile. I finally saw it a couple of hours ago.
“Hmm,” I said, “that doesn’t look right.”
Let’s do some research, using the same websites that “t. sixx” purports to get his data from: The Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
I’ve been kicking around pediatric medicine for a year or two, so I immediately noticed a couple of anomalies. Very few people are just vaccinated for Mumps or Measles or Rubella. The grand majority, well over 90%, are given a combo vaccine called MMR. The same goes for Diphtheria, Tetanus and Pertussis. Since that’s the case, how do you know which portion of the combo was the cause of death? Also, look at all the coincidences. Mumps, Rubella and Varicella vaccines all caused four deaths each. Well, deaths from those three appear to be incredibly rare, so that number is not out of the realm of possibility. But Diphtheria and Tetanus? Exactly 72 each? Pneumonia and Polio, 85 each? Really?
Well, maybe so. After all, incredible coincidences do happen. So I went to the VAERS database, the same source that “t. sixx” gets his/her/their/it’s data from, and plugged in every combination of Mumps, Measles and Rubella vaccines for 2014. “t. sixx” says those three caused 14 deaths. The VAERS database says three. Well, that’s only off by 79%; maybe “t. sixx” hit the wrong key. Anyone can make a mistake. How about Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis? “t. sixx” says those three vaccines caused 221 deaths. The actual number, again from the database that “t. sixx” claims as a source, is 36. Just a little bit off.
How about the other column? “t. sixx” claims that the CDC says that only 19 people died of the flu in 2014. Hallelujah! We’ve conquered the flu!!! Oopsy, that’s just a bit off. The CDC actually says that flu deaths in 2014 were estimated to be 51,376. That’s not even close enough for government work. Well, maybe he was just talking about children? 803 deaths in 2014 according to the source “cited” by “t. sixx.” Children under four years old? 396 deaths from the flu in 2014, still off by a factor of 20 to 1.
I did find one thing right: 13 people died of Hepatitis B in 2014. Unfortunately, according to VAERS, there were six deaths from the vaccine for Hep B that year, not 50.
And even supposing that every line on that chart is true, the reason that there are so few deaths from these diseases is because most people have been vaccinated. Does anyone really think that there would be still no deaths from Tetanus if we stopped vaccinating?
So this is the same as all anti-vax propaganda: Blatant lies to fool the gullible. And they obviously know they are lying. As Derek Hunter says about Adam Schiff, “If the truth was on their side, they wouldn’t have to lie.”
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If only you had been around in 1976, Jose, to explain to me that I could not possibly have my arm become 40% impaired in terms of mobility, due to Guillan Barre resulting from swine flu shot I had. (I was young and extremely active, so within 18 months of this vax injury, my arm was totally healed.)
BTW this injury was considered to be serious enough that to this day, med personnel who are knowledgeable tell me: “We cannot administer a flu vaccine of any type, due to the bad reaction you suffered in 1976.”
If only you had been around, Jose, to explain to my mother-in-law that even though the doctor’s office where she received her flu shot realized that an elderly woman with emphysema should never have had a flu shot administered, and as a result,she was in critical condition, they apologized for doing this. You could have saved them from this apology.
Oh and you could call up the Vaccine Settlement Court and let them know they should attempt to recover the over 4 billion dollars from US tax payers that was awarded to parents of vaccine murdered children, injured children, and adult victims themselves over the past several decades.
Nobody is claiming there are never any adverse reactions to vaccines. The number is tiny compared to the benefits. But it sucks to be that individual.
Actually those with chronic illness like COPD are exactly the patients who should receive the Flu vaccine. Don’t know why they apologized other than to placate someone.
The fact that a court awards money has little to do with actual medical outcomes.
FYI the last column is compensation per MILLION vaccinations
3.5 BILLION immunizations with 4153 claims.
That’s 0.000012 percent.
There are few things safer than vaccines.
You are aware, I hope, that your emotional appeal doesn’t actually refute the facts presented? Yes, it is unfortunate that vaccines aren’t perfect, but they clearly save more lives than they cost. By orders of magnitude. You might as well argue against seat belts because a tiny (really tiny) fraction of car accident deaths involve a stuck belt.
Yes, it does. Which is all the more reason all the rest of us who aren’t that individual should continue to get our vaccines — so the very few people who can produce good evidence they should not be vaccinated benefit from herd immunity.
JosePluma,
You should be proud that the work you invested in researching and writing this article has been acknowledged by, at current count, 43 Likes! and beau-cooties of Comments.
Beau-cooties? I hear there’s a vaccine against them…
Ineffective. They mutate too quickly, like the common cold.
As far as the awarding of monies to injured vaccine recipients, or their parents, it might be good to take a gander at this information I link to below. For years, people who knew their offspring or that they themselves were injured found it difficult to have their names submitted to the vaccine court. Over the last decade, there was a major change. More names than ever before were allowed into the lists of those the court would consider. But at the same time, it was made more difficult than ever to have a day in court.
It is estimated that only between 1% and 10% of the victims or families of victims ever become applicants for this court. My sister-in-law who saved her mom’s life through her acupuncture skills, after the three doctors and specialists gave up on her vax injured mom never applied.
Most people do not apply for many various reasons. To this day, doctors’ offices personnel commonly tell parents that “your child’s seizures are normal” or “the high fever is normal.” Then a day or two later, after the young child or baby has died, the brain swelling that will be listed as a cause of death ends up being a reason for CPS to visit the household. Sometimes one or both parents are then charged with “shaken baby syndrome.” This visit by CPS is happening less frequently now due to cell phone vids that show the baby alert and happy the day before the vaccine, then a filming of the child as it struggles to live, and then the filming of the brush off the parents receive at the drs’ office.
It is also true our infant mortality rate is appalling. See Part Two.
As I mentioned earlier, my father had polio when he was eight years old. He was out of school for a year with it. He was in an iron lung and then a wheelchair. His mother worked with him, doing various forms of physical therapy, and he managed to recover enough strength to get out of the wheelchair and lead a relatively normal life.
His family was small. His mother had problems with births, and his only sibling had died three or four days after birth. His father was an only child. His mother had two brothers, only one of whom had a child. Thus, he had only one first cousin. The two were the only two in their generation. His first cousin got in an auto accident his senior year in high school, and was confined to a wheelchair for the rest of his life. The cousin’s mother, angry that my father had managed to get out of his wheelchair and that her son never would, blamed my father for it. I saw that cousin once at their mutual uncle’s funeral, but otherwise the branches of the family did not communicate.
People can be strange what they latch onto.
Part Two:
Granted there are other factors that reflect reasons why more babies die inside the US than other nations, including for many in this country a much lower standard of living. However Norwegian officials continue to point to how their nation will not allow a hep B vaccine except to individuals who actually are exposed to hepatitis as one explanation for their lower infant mortality rate.
The U.S. uses a different standard of live birth than any other country. Here, if a born child shows any sign of life whatsoever, it is counted as a live birth. Other countries require it to breathe on its own, or to survive a day or even a week.
There is also the fact that we have huge migration rates from Third-World countries that the other listed countries have not matched.
Fine. Say 10 %
Thats still an incidence of 0.00012%
Zero evidence that this is in any way related to vaccines.
Why would it be common for pediatricians’ offices to tell parents that seizures or high fevers are normal reactions to vaccines? Typical pediatric advice is that mild discomfort, like a bit of listlessness, soreness, or low fever, after a vaccine is common, but that any serious sign of illness should be treated as it always is: a serious sign of illness.
Instruction to ignore serious signs of illness because “they’re just a vaccine reaction” isn’t common (if it exists at all), and it seems more likely that, if parents believe they are receiving that instruction from their pediatrician, that there has been some misunderstanding.
A baby alert and energetic immediately before receiving vaccines and lethargic shortly afterward is fairly common. What’s not common is for that lethargy to be a sign of impending death. It’s a big country, big enough for some babies to die shortly after receiving their vaccines, even if the vaccine isn’t the culprit. In some of those deaths, the vaccine even seems to be the culprit. But serious adverse reactions to vaccines are still so rare that vaccines, overall, are quite safe. I’d be more worried about the drive to and from the doctor’s to get the vaccinations than the vaccinations themselves.
See? Conservatives can be collectivists, too!
Collecting vaccines?
Remember, whatever else happens, you can only die of one thing in this lifetime.*
* Unless you’re revived from death one or more times.
One death per customer, please. (Yes, there are always cheaters. )
Timely comment, Arahant.
MidgetFadedRattlesnake,
Thanks for the Like on this comment.
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Even a person of your exceptional mind could not reconstruct a day in the life of a man from two words, “timely comment”, and know what such an ordinary kindness could mean to him today. Some days every experience and feeling is exaggerated.
We were blessed.
Worst day of my life. 9yrs old and was selected for the 13 yr old baseball team. Real uniform. stirrup socks, one game and then chicken pox.
Noooooooo! Oh, I feel so bad for 9-yr-old you.
I doubt that very much. We in the USA are taught all this nonsense – that our American medical system is the best, that our med system is the most innovative, et al.
When in the 1990’s, it came to the rank and file Republicans revolting against the toxin MTBE, mandated to be in our gasoline in our vehicles at 9.0% volume, we were all told that MTBE was safe. This was due to the almost 1,000 studies that American researchers had put together that proved that MTBE was okay.
Only one researcher showed that it was unsafe. He was an Italian scientist; he was also the only indie researcher, while all the other American researchers were paid by industry. Because he was Italian, he was made into a pariah, almost to the point of hearing “dirty filthy w..” in reference to him and his findings.
Luckily for the people of Calif, Gov Davis, a Dem, differed from Dem leaders like Di Feinstein. He went ahead and appointed a Blue Panel headed by John Froines and that panel showed MTBE was all risk and no benefit. MTBE was brought down to an amount less than 2% in our gas. It saved our aquifers, which would have been poisoned within ten years. (It was expected half of our aquifers would have been contaminated. Since MTBE makes water taste like kerosene even at 4 parts per billion, this means we would have had even a greater water crisis than what we now have.)
The findings by the Blue Ribbon Panel vindicated the Italian researcher.
I also encountered far better procedures and med gear when I lived in Scandinavia in 1979 than what we had in the USA. Within five or six years, we caught up, but still.
So I am dubious about these claims of our having a better system.
Thanks, but it wasn’t a lot of work. I noticed the inconsistencies in the chart and went to the sites that “t. sixx” purportedly used. The VAERS database is straightforward: plug in the vaccine or vaccines and it will return the number of deaths. I did seven entries, none of them matched the number in the chart. The flu number was pretty obviously wrong, and the CDC closely tracks it. After checking nine entries and only finding one correct, I came to the conclusion that the chart was a deliberate lie. Total work: less than an hour. Total time to write the post: Thirty minutes.
Claiming we measure one statistic differently from how other countries do isn’t claiming we’re generally superior to other countries. Either the measurement’s different or it’s not, and figuring that out should be a matter of direct comparison, not an indirect inference from whether Americans are generally prouder of their health outcomes than is warranted (which, incidentally, I would tend to agree with albeit perhaps for different reasons).
Let’s go to the VAERS again: Total deaths from Hep B vaccinations in the last 10 years: 140. Total in children under 6 months: 109. Do these Norwegian officials who are experts on US healthcare have another source than VAERS? If not, deaths from Hep B vaccinations have basically no effect on the infant mortality rate.
(NOTE: When researching this answer, I found a mistake in the original post. It has been edited to correct that error.)
My first mother died because the doctor’s office gave my dad horrible advice. When someone is having difficulty breathing, send them to the ER, do not tell them to make a damn appointment. My dad trusted them, and became a widower, then was in a hellish family nightmare where he was blamed for her death by her family. Family feuds are more fun on TV.
I was 7 when I came home from school without a mom. I still miss her.
My stepmother went in for a routine biopsy, and nearly bled to death from complications. (Perhaps I am wrong, but a biopsy on a blood-filled swelling seems like a bad idea. My dad came close to being a widower again. My stepsister was discussing with me how to deal with the doctor responsible. (It would have involved felonies)
So yes, Carol, normal medical practice can kill you. Medical errors kill more people than guns. That does not mean that doctors are always wrong or that someone having a reaction means it is bad for everyone.
My story beats all of yours. ,I was in therapy before there was Oprah. @age 3 I had therapist. At age 15 I wet the bed. So…