Ricochet is the best place on the internet to discuss the issues of the day, either through commenting on posts or writing your own for our active and dynamic community in a fully moderated environment. In addition, the Ricochet Audio Network offers over 50 original podcasts with new episodes released every day.
93% of Republican Women Support Trump
According to Daniel Henninger, the deputy editor of the opinion page of the Wall Street Journal, 93 percent of Republican women support Trump. His information came from a recent Fox News Poll that also reported the women were even more supportive than their male counterparts who support Trump to the tune of 85 percent. The poll is extensive, so make sure you scroll down for the section where party identification begins.
Lest you believe these women are off in blind la la land, Henninger says, “Which brings us to what may be the greatest Republican political blunder of this generation — failing to fix ObamaCare. The percentage of GOP women who express concern about health care is 77%.”
The article is definitely worth reading as many of us can identify with some of the concerns of these Republican women. We solidly back Trump but are aware of the work that still needs to be done and the necessity for our own politicos to get on board.
Published in General
89% of Republicans approve of the job the President is doing. So . . . I guess that’s a really big bubble.
A big, beautiful bubble.
If you reread my comment you will not find the words “all my friends love Trump.” In fact, many of my friends here in very blue Seattle are Dems who think I’ve lost my mind, but they love me anyway as they consider me their token Republican friend. What I said was, “I’m not aware that a lot of women have left the Republican party. In my own small world that isn’t the case at all but maybe there are some stats out there that I’m not aware of?” All the Republican women I know after living in this town for 40 years are still Republicans, yet you say many women have left the party. Could be you are right, but I don’t know of any stats that confirm it.
In my small world, 90% of the once-Republican women I know left the party over Trump and no longer identify as anything, but that’s a small sample size since I don’t know that many women who will openly admit to being a Republican. The Pew Research Center has research that suggests the number of women who “lean Democratic” has grown, while “lean Republican” has shrunk. I suspect most of the movement is in the self-described independents, though, not people who identified strongly with the party before 2016.
Republicans lost college educated voters by 20% last month. That is a group I wouldn’t think would be inclined toward socialism, especially in a booming economy. So, I’m assuming its full of many disgruntled former Republicans. It appears you haven’t seen it, even from your blue state perch. Its definitely happened in many other areas though.
Um . . . you don’t think people who attend American colleges are inclined toward socialism?
Have you been asleep for the last few decades?
So, this was all super secret hidden information that these Republican women did not have when they said they supported the President?
Rather than just listing the same problems, most of which were known before he was elected, it might be more fruitful to figure out why in spite of all these stories, a number of Republican women still support the President. They can’t all be anti-women women or racist women or evil women.
So you’re saying that the reason the GOP did so horribly with a group they have historically done well with is college indoctrination suddenly got bad?
Not so suddenly.
No, I’m saying that you’ve got a premise to prove and you’re going in search of causal factors.
We’ve been reading about Trump’s romantic exploits for years in the tabloids. It’s annoying to hear the constant harangue from those who gleefully recount his silly locker room talk during the campaign as it has nothing to do with here and now. Maybe Republican woman are more realistic and understanding about the human/male nature than our Democrat female friends who go running to a lawyer if a man looks at her below her neck. Perhaps we are more concerned about policies that affect us all economically, the education of our children without interference from unions and the importance of preserving our culture as a nation.
Older white rural/ex-urban women are a declining demographic (as I stated earlier). Women overall are a growing majority and I do agree that there is need for outreach in the GOP to younger generations. Usually the GOP carries the 50+ demographic by several points, and even more in midterms. In 2018 the 50+ demographic was split in half and that is a major shift.
When your bubble is less than 25% of the electorate that isn’t a bubble that wins elections. That bubble needs to grow but I am not seeing any effort by those in the bubble wanting to expand it.
Expand it? In fact, I keep hearing from the anti-Trumpers how we need to kick the Trump voters out of the party.
Good luck winning elections without them.
If you look at the polls, those who call themselves independents has been growing exponentially for the past 15 or so years. My own dearly departed husband considered himself an independent but voted GOP. Without looking it up, I believe in this latest Fox Poll of registered voters 46% identified as Dem, 40% as GOP and the rest Indies.
I believe in some states to vote in a party primary one must be registered in that party, which is as it should be in my view. But this means people like me, who would not like to be closely identified as a Republican because of all the things there that I don’t embrace, register as Republicans but think of themselves as independents. I don’t know if this affects what is being discussed here.
You are assuming that everyone who voted for Trump in the general election voted because they wanted him and not for other reasons, like he wasn’t Hillary or they wanted judges or something else . Trump won the primaries with only a plurality from the GOP.
Perhaps that group has grown a bit but one would think you would see the signs associated with growth and a new paradigm, like establishing new structures (winning primaries to put new trump like candidates in congress and in state office) to implement those desires in the GOP. But that hasn’t happened.
Loyalty to Trump because he is a Republican is far different than loyalty to Trump because he is Trump. And so far the evidence supports the assertion that he is supported because he has an R next to his name. That ultimately means that Trump is replaceable. It’s just a question of when.
Well, that’s arguable. That Pew Poll you cite claims 34% of voters were Independent, 33% Dem and 29% GOP in 2016. If it’s true that our bubble can only include those in the poll, Trump couldn’t possibly have won the presidency with 46% of the voters in 2016. That bubble must extend to those who claim to be other than GOP.
In point of fact in every election there are those of all political parties who vote (as I did for Bob Dole) loyally for their party nominee and others who vote for the particular individual. Surely it was no different in 2016 for both parties. I do know Dems who held their noses and voted for Hillary, and we all know those right here on Ricochet who did the same for Trump. It just goes with the territory. Nothing new here.
I don’t see how that’s necessarily true. I don’t have a problem with a free market health care system but with subsidized coverage (or Medicare) for people who are essentially uninsurable; those with pre-existing conditions, for instance.
They’re Julias.
I like the thought of approaching it this way. Any thoughts regarding individuals with preexisting conditions accumulating or possessing personal wealth while depending on the state for large medical outlays? I can visualize all kinds of techniques for stand-ins to take possession of income, earned and unearned, in such cases.
I don’t have a solution for that.
Yes. Maybe there is not one, after honesty.
That makes sense to me. Donald Trump is a predator and an abuser of women. The only way to possibly square that circle is by putting your fingers in your ears and refusing to engage.
Repeating a lie over and over again doesn’t make it true. Nor does it excuse your abusive treatment of a fellow Ricochet member.
Moderator Note:
Please read the article linked to in the OP, refer to the subject matter of the OP, and as per the author's request in a previous comment, please return to a discussion of it, and resist the temptation to indulge in speculation and the dredging up of already known and understood material that sheds no new light here. Thank you.Sorry. What lie am I allegedly repeating?
Of course you can, Fred. But that isn’t what this post is about. If you’d like to go there (again), have at it. Please write your own.
Excuse me, but if 93% of Republican women support Trump, then Donald Trump’s attitudes and behavior are absolutely relevant to the subject being discussed.
Why don’t you let the women decide that for themselves?