Standards and Anti-Standards

 

lol i dont know why sooooo many millennials hate grammar but whatchya gonna do about it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Joking aside, this phenomenon drives me mad. Scarcely a day passes when I don’t see some flagrantly ungrammatical Facebook posting by someone who should know better. Twenty-something scientists, mathematicians, historians, poets, journalists, and even editors — editors, for goodness’ sake! — all write in the same quasi-illiterate nonstyle. When the social-media output of America’s aspiring literati is indistinguishable from that of its middle-school dropouts, something is deeply, deeply wrong. Our language’s Millennial gatekeepers haven’t merely abandoned their posts; they’ve joined the barbarians in storming the castle.

Now, I’m a pedant. My standards are unrealistic. I understand that. I certainly don’t expect people — even well-educated people — to plop HTML style tags into their text messages in lieu of italics.* I don’t expect them to distinguish between em dashes and en dashes. I don’t demand perfection. Typos happen. But is it so difficult to separate different sentences with periods? Does it truly take undue effort to capitalize an “I” or spell “don’t” with an apostrophe? I think not.

So, what’s happening here? It’s not poor education. These same people who present themselves on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram as dyslexic fifth-graders are perfectly capable of writing polished prose. Indeed, I’d bet that a great many of them could pulverize me in a writing contest. They know the rules, and they fail to apply them. They choose to be ineloquent. Why? Because it’s a form of social signaling. Because sending into the digital nether a garbled mishmosh of words and abbreviations, all garnished with a heaping helping of emojis, says, “I’m young and sociable and cool, just like you.” Because ignoring standards has, paradoxically, become a standard. Because the absence of rules is itself a rule.

My friend and I once became embroiled in a heated (read: nearly violent), multi-day argument about punctuation in text messages. His position? That ending a message with a period constitutes a breach of the social contract. That terminating a text is an immoral act. This friend is quite bright — brilliant, even. He’s an economist and a classicist. He can read Latin. He’s an able writer. But he, like a great many Millennials, seems to believe that terminal punctuation is something to be reserved for only the tensest of interactions. Writing like a second-week ESL student, by contrast, signals openness, friendless, and a willingness to engage with interlocutors. Failing to understand this might have professional consequences, he warned. It might give someone a reason to fire me.

Pfft. I’m willing to take the risk. If grammar counts as a fireable offense in my boss’s eyes, I ought to run, screaming, from that boss, anyway. If grammar makes me look like an out-of-touch curmudgeon, good. It’s my pleasure. Better to be a curmudgeon than a mushy-minded social milquetoast.

I ought to remind my friend, though, that anti-standards have consequences. Just as an anti-joke is nothing more than a joke that subverts the expectations surrounding jokes, anti-standards, in general, are nothing more than standards which fling aside all the rules that proceeded them. Artistic anti-standards brought us postmodern art. Architectural anti-standards brought us brutalism and Cabrini–Green. Anti-standards tend to encourage a race to the bottom. In the realm of language, it’s an egalitarian race. Everyone — learned and ignorant, smart and dumb — competes to look as inane as possible. The pathology spreads — first from informal settings (like text-message chains) to semi-informal settings (like a Facebook page), and then to public platforms (like Twitter, Instagram, and personal blogs). Writing grammatically becomes ever slightly more unnatural, and ever slightly more a technical specialty.

What is the consequence of all this twaddle? I don’t know. All I can say is this:

The Millennials can pry the punctuation from my cold, dead hands.

* Yes, I used to do this — until I grew tired of fighting my phone’s automatic spelling correction. Now, I settle for asterisks.

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  1. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Kephalithos: This friend is quite bright — brilliant, even.

    Your brilliant friend is, at the same time, an idiot.

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  2. CarolJoy Coolidge
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    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    I Shot The Serif (View Comment): Millennials aren’t trying to write; they’re trying to directly substitute typing for speech and other face-to-face social cues.

    This is what they say they’re doing. But I don’t believe it explains everything.

    The written equivalent of a facial gesture is an emoji. Slapping down words willy-nilly without regard for even the most simple and well-known rules of written grammar — well, that has no obvious equivalent in speech. Speech and writing are different things, and they will always be different things, no matter what the Millennials say.

    If emulating speech is truly what they want, I’d like to see them send unbroken strings of IPA characters.

    But what if their use of social media indicates they don’t understand how to think, not in even the most rudimentary ways?

    I remember trying to engage a millennial in debate, the summer of 2016, and although it seemed to be they didn’t agree with me, neither could they debate me. My remark left them helpless. It was like they were looking around, hoping to find the appropriate emoji floating about in the air above our heads.

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  3. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Misthiocracy, Joke Pending (View Comment):
    This isn’t necessarily a bad thing, in and of itself, but it can become problematic if everybody’s writing with little-to-no regard for how their words will be interpreted.

    It doesn’t really matter.  The deconstructionists are going to interpret it however they want anyway.

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  4. Randy Webster Inactive
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Misthiocracy, Joke Pending (View Comment):

    For example:

    http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-commonly-corrected-grammar-errors-that-arent-mistakes/

    I don’t agree with 7 through 4, and I was too annoyed to read the rest.

    “Hopefully” means “full of hope.” It’s “few,” not “less,” if you can count them. It’s “he or she” if it’s one person, not “they.”

    Dear Lord.

    I’m even worse than that.  It’s just “he.”

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  5. David Carroll Thatcher
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Misthiocracy, Joke Pending (View Comment):

    For example:

    http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-commonly-corrected-grammar-errors-that-arent-mistakes/

    I don’t agree with 7 through 5. “Hopefully” means “full of hope.” It’s “few,” not “less,” if you can count them. It’s “he or she” if it’s one person, not “they.”

    I don’t agree with much that the foul-mouthed buffoon wrote.  His use of crude language completely undermined his credibility.

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  6. Kephalithos Member
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    David Carroll (View Comment): I don’t agree with much that the foul-mouthed buffoon wrote. His use of crude language completely undermined his credibility.

    The piece follows the usual formula. It’s snark wrapped in irony inside flippancy.

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  7. Henry Racette Member
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    Thank you.

    Full stop.

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  8. Matt Bartle Member
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    Most of my texts are single sentences, so I don’t put a period at the end. That would be weird! The end of the text is enough of a stop. But if I’m going to include a second sentence, then I do use a period at the end of the first one.

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  9. Jules PA Inactive
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    Kephalithos (View Comment):
    Slapping down words willy-nilly without regard for even the most simple and well-known rules of written grammar — well, that has no obvious equivalent in speech.

    Toddler-ish?

    Haha. 

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  10. Jules PA Inactive
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    I’d bet the people who are reacting so negatively to sentence-ending periods are also engaging in uptalk. There are few things I find more grating than uptalk.

    You are going to make me click that link. To understand uptalk. Gahhh.

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  11. Henry Racette Member
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    Matt Bartle (View Comment):
    Most of my texts are single sentences, so I don’t put a period at the end. That would be weird!

    That sounds to me very much like someone saying “I chew with my mouth open when I dine alone.”

     

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  12. Nanda Pajama-Tantrum Member
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    She (View Comment):

    Kephalithos: Because it’s a form of social signaling. Because sending into the digital nether a garbled mishmosh of words and abbreviations, all garnished with a heaping helping of emojis, says, “I’m young and sociable and cool, just like you.” Because ignoring standards has, paradoxically, become a standard. Because the absence of rules is itself a rule.

    This. Although as well as signaling “I’m young and sociable and cool, just like you,” I think there’s a considerable element of sticking their fingers in the eyes of their elders by disappearing into the secret and shared mysterious patois of youth. It was ever thus (or has been for a very long time), but I think that the cheapness and ease of mass communication in the twenty-first century has rendered the phenomenon even more unintelligible, illiterate and baffling than usual.

    And on the occasions when I see “grown-ups” who should know better trying to show how “cool” they are, by trying to fit in with it, I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

    I’m reminded of “Weird Al” Yankovic’s plaint about this lamentable situation. It’s a parody of the then-current song, “Blurred Lines”, that he titled: “Word Crimes”. (I’ll link to the video when I’m at my PC….Update: Linked.)

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  13. Nanda Pajama-Tantrum Member
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    Jules PA (View Comment):

    Kephalithos (View Comment):
    Slapping down words willy-nilly without regard for even the most simple and well-known rules of written grammar — well, that has no obvious equivalent in speech.

    Toddler-ish?

    Haha.

    Toddlers may have idiosyncratic grammatical rules and/or vocabulary choices.  However, at least they apply them consistently; this activity flies in the face of Mr. Riley’s description of wanton disregard, above. :-)

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  14. JosePluma Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Oh, this one is easy. Get off Facebook. Although I will say that you will never, ever, wrest my exclamation marks, double exclamation marks, from my cold, dead hands!!!!

    Hey!  (Don’t forget parentheses.)

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  15. Simon Templar Member
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    kick-back and smell the coffee – or not

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  16. Simon Templar Member
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    Misthiocracy, Joke Pending (View Comment):

    For example:

    http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-commonly-corrected-grammar-errors-that-arent-mistakes/

    apparently I have a less than refined sense of humor.  1000 pardons

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  17. Stad Coolidge
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    Kephalithos: Scarcely a day passes when I don’t see some flagrantly ungrammatical Facebook posting by someone who should know better. Twenty-something scientists, mathematicians, historians, poets, journalists, and even editors — editors, for goodness’ sake! — all write in the same quasi-illiterate nonstyle. When the social-media output of America’s aspiring literati is indistinguishable from that of its middle-school dropouts, something is deeply, deeply wrong. Our language’s Millennial gatekeepers haven’t merely abandoned their posts; they’ve joined the barbarians in storming the castle.

    Our local newspaper is a haven for “journalists” and “editors” who cannot spell, use proper grammar, or use the correct word in context.  Even AP stories used by the paper contain errors, and their frequency is increasing.  They will even truncate sentences in the middle if they run out of space, instead of taking the time to rewrite an article to fit.

    The spoken language evolves, but leftists force definitional changes to the meaning of words on the fly if it will advance their agenda.

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  18. OldPhil Coolidge
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    David Carroll (View Comment):

    I guess as an old person, I don’t have the experience of exchanging texts with any millennial’s. My children and children-in-law are Gen X, not millennial.

    Besides, my wife and I find that dictating texts is much quicker and easier than all that finger punching. And the smart phone spells everything correctly. Of course, being old school, we dictate our full-stop periods.

    What I find annoying is about not only the millennials, but the speech of many supposedly educated educated people. A Gen X relative who shall go nameless but who has a doctorate will say things like “Me and John went to the store.” Ugh.

    Worse, the talking heads on the news will use the nominative case when the objective case is correct: “That really affected my wife and I.” Double ugh.

    That gets me boiling every time. I’ll yell at the TV/radio: “That really affected I?”

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  19. Joseph Eagar Member
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    Nothing is more annoying than people who take grammar scolding to an extreme. It’s fine to complain about Facebook nonsense, but don’t complain about grammar conventions in a professional setting.

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  20. Joseph Eagar Member
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    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    Misthiocracy, Joke Pending (View Comment): Again, this isn’t necessarily a bad thing, in and of itself, but it can become problematic the more these linguistic groups are in opposition to each other.

    This is the heart of the problem. These people are the Noah Websters of their time.

    Suppose Webster prescribed certain usages in his dictionary, then turned around and broke every rule he introduced — and, moreover, had the audacity to claim that anyone who dared to follow his own dictionary was, by virtue of doing so, a horrible person. This is how many Millennials think. It’s bound to create some erosion in their ability to use language the “old” way.

    (I’ll admit that part of my irritation is personal. I hate social inconsistency. It’s why I can’t bear the sight of an intoxicated friend. It’s why I’ve always felt uneasy around the theatre crowd. It’s why I bristled at Obama’s and Clinton’s bizarre slips into dialect.)

    I was always obsessive about grammar and punctuation growing up. So was everyone else I knew. This attitude of sloppy grammar isn’t universal among Millenials.

    I do try to follow the period-as-emojii texting rules though.

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  21. KentForrester Inactive
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    JosePluma (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Oh, this one is easy. Get off Facebook. Although I will say that you will never, ever, wrest my exclamation marks, double exclamation marks, from my cold, dead hands!!!!

    Hey! (Don’t forget parentheses.)

    Jose, you’re stolen my thunder.  Give it back.  Susan expects me to make that comment about parentheses, and you’ve now spoiled my fun.

    Kent

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  22. Misthiocracy, Joke Pending Member
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    David Carroll (View Comment):

    Misthiocracy, Joke Pending (View Comment):

    Increases in literacy are generally accompanied by linguistic innovation. If you want one you have to be tolerant of the other.

    During periods of lower literacy, the rules remain rather static because the only people who can read and write are the same people who enforce the rules.

    When there’s a cultural or technological change that results in an increase in literacy, it means more people who aren’t formally “in charge” get to play in the world of words, and they come up with innovations.

    This happened with the printing press (which resulted in the deprecation of certain letters, like þ), and the King James Bible (which went a long way towards standardizing written English), and public education (resulting in an increase of popular fiction which often used local vernaculars), and 20th century business communications, and now the Internet.

    The “rules of grammar” one cites were more often than not set in stone arbitrarily as a reaction to these increases in literacy. i.e. the spelling conventions prescribed by Noah Webster, the grammar conventions prescribed by William Strunk or John Dryden, etc. They did not correspond to common usage of the time but were rather an imposition of those individuals’ preferred usage.

    For example:

    http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-commonly-corrected-grammar-errors-that-arent-mistakes/

    I suppose you promote a living constitution as well. :-)

    I do.  It lives via the amendment process as laid out in the constitution.

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  23. Arizona Patriot Member
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    CR, are you inferring that this is the first generation to fail to man the barricades against degeneration of the language?  This is a genuine problem, but not a new one.  The ambiguity in my first sentence is the result of prior failure in this regard.

    We can hope that the youngsters will grow out of it.  I mean, like, I don’t think that we’re going to communicate this way, like, forever, do you?  Like, totally not.

    this has been fun now im going to go gag myself with a spoon

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  24. Misthiocracy, Joke Pending Member
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    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    For all the woke linguists (insert smiling emoji), I’m curious:

    Must a recognition that language changes translate into support for a particular change in a particular language?

    Doesn’t spreading knowledge of linguistic “truths” (like the fact that prescriptivists are dummies (insert second smiling emoji)) risk altering the very thing linguists seek to study?

    My position is not quite that language changes and therefore we must support those changes.

    My position is closer to:

    a) Strictly enforcing grammar rules that have little-to-no basis in historical usage is modernist nonsense.  e.g. Lots of writers hailed in the canon of English literature (such as Dickens or Austen or Shakespeare or Twain, etc. etc. etc.) used things like the singular “they”, split infinitives, prepositions at the ends of sentences, the word “ain’t”, etc.

    b) If you’re not the intended audience for a piece of writing, you don’t have a lot of standing to complain about the quality of that writing.  Some, maybe, but not a lot.

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  25. Misthiocracy, Joke Pending Member
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    @Misthiocracy

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  26. Kephalithos Member
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    Arizona Patriot (View Comment): CR, are you inferring that this is the first generation to fail to man the barricades against degeneration of the language?

    Not at all. But this is the first generation to justify its barricade-abandoning with linguistic arguments. It’s also (arguably) the first generation to develop and use contradictory forms of written communication in an earnest way.

    Moreover, I think it’s important that people whose job is to enforce “traditional” norms of grammar, punctuation, and spelling should model that behavior themselves.

    Misthiocracy, Joke Pending (View Comment): If you’re not the intended audience for a piece of writing, you don’t have a lot of standing to complain about the quality of that writing. Some, maybe, but not a lot.

    Fair enough, in the case of text messages. The intended audience for a tweet, Facebook post, or Instagram photo, though, is . . . well, anyone who happens to see it. So, I do have standing to complain.

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  27. KentForrester Inactive
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    Misthiocracy, Joke Pending (View Comment):

    Misthiocracy, you’re discovered an end run around the Ricochet censors.  Clever chap. 

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  28. Misthiocracy, Joke Pending Member
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    Kephalithos (View Comment):
    The intended audience for a tweet, Facebook post, or Instagram photo, though, is . . . well, anyone who happens to see it.

    That’s simply not accurate.

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  29. Kephalithos Member
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    Misthiocracy, Joke Pending (View Comment): That’s simply not accurate.

    Well, yes, some people hide some content behind filters, but a great many posts, tweets, and photos — perhaps most (though, obviously, I can’t prove this) — are floating around freely, accessible to all who bother to look (or, in the case of Facebook, bother to create an account).

    Anyone who doesn’t think his public tweet won’t be seen by people he doesn’t know is kidding himself.

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  30. KentForrester Inactive
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    As an old English professor and the author of a grammar book (A Writer’s Guide), I’ve read this thread with a great deal of interest.

    Obviously, language is going through a period of rapid change, in large part due to texting, blogs, tweets, and so on.   Like you, I find myself resistant to some of those changes.  I want to hang on to, for instance, the distinction between “disinterested” and “uninterested.”  And I still like to see a pronoun agree in number with its noun or pronoun antecedent. 

    But those are the lost causes of a grammar curmudgeon. They’re not worth going to battle over. 

    Like you, I would never correct a Ricochet writer.  I’m tempted of course. With my background, how could I not be tempted?   I spent my working life correcting writing problems.  But if I correct you, you might be so annoyed that you would start to correct me.  And that would be annoying. 

    Correcting someone’s spelling or grammar strikes me as being petty.  Actually, it rarely happens on Ricochet. I like that.  

     

     

     

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