The Futility Of An “Assault Weapons Ban,” In One Photo

 

One is not an assault weaponHere is a photo of three AR-15 rifles owned by my friend Tamara, the Handgun Editor at Shooting Illustrated. Two of them would be considered “Assault Weapons” under the terms of the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban, one is fully compliant and not considered to be an “assault weapon.”

Which is which, and why?

This is the problem with trying to make a law about things we don’t like: laws require rules, and not liking the idea of an “assault weapon” in civilian hands is a feeling, not a rule. People can march in the streets and rant about the NRA all they want but, at the end of the day, when laws have to be written, they must be written around regulations, not emotions.

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  1. Tex929rr Coolidge
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    Spin (View Comment):

    Does the mini 14 use the same STANAG magazine? I guess I can just google it.

    No.  I wish.  It requires insertion from the front and rocking it back to lock, like an AK.  One disadvantage of the platform is it doesn’t have the aftermarket like AR’s do.

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  2. Spin Inactive
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    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Does the mini 14 use the same STANAG magazine? I guess I can just google it.

    No. I wish. It requires insertion from the front and rocking it back to lock, like an AK. One disadvantage of the platform is it doesn’t have the aftermarket like AR’s do.

    Ok.  Bummer.  But still.  I hear good things about it.  I’ve never owned one, nor even fired one.  Maybe that should be my next gun…

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  3. TheSockMonkey Inactive
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    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Does the mini 14 use the same STANAG magazine? I guess I can just google it.

    No. I wish. It requires insertion from the front and rocking it back to lock, like an AK. One disadvantage of the platform is it doesn’t have the aftermarket like AR’s do.

    So, if it’s like an AK magazine, does that make it military-grade?

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  4. Kevin Creighton Contributor
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    I just found out from Tamara that the rifle on the left has the extendable version of the ACE Skeletal Stock, making it not compliant with the Assault Weapons Ban. 

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    TheSockMonkey (View Comment):

    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Does the mini 14 use the same STANAG magazine? I guess I can just google it.

    No. I wish. It requires insertion from the front and rocking it back to lock, like an AK. One disadvantage of the platform is it doesn’t have the aftermarket like AR’s do.

    So, if it’s like an AK magazine, does that make it military-grade?

    I object when I hear people talk about how my AR-15’s are “military-grade” rifles.

    They are MUCH better built than that! :) 

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  6. Tex929rr Coolidge
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    Spin (View Comment):

    Ok. Bummer. But still. I hear good things about it. I’ve never owned one, nor even fired one. Maybe that should be my next gun…

    I was never a big fan of the AR platform (now I own four), and back in the day the Mini used to be a lower cost alternative to the AR.  That’s all changed; way more good AR variants are on the market at low prices.  I still prefer some things about the Mini – M1 style safety, for example.  The Mini 30 is much nicer to shoot than the AK, IMHO.

    It’s nice to have such a surfeit of good choices.

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  7. EHerring Coolidge
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    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    I posted this pic on social media a few years ago when friends from the Albany, NY, area were visiting. Left to right, a Mini-14, a Mini-30, an AK (SGL-21), and an AR (S/W M and P 15). IIRC, my friends can purchase the Minis but not the AK or AR. I each case, the rifles function identically (the Mini-30 operation is a bit simpler than the AK), same barrel lengths, same magazine capacity (the Mini-30 has a 20 round magazine in the pic) same ballistics. Assault weapons bans are just the nose under the tent to a total ban, aided by most people’s profound ignorance.

    Remove the magazine from the AK and I bet some of the lefties will say it is OK.

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    Kevin Creighton (View Comment):

    I just found out from Tamara that the rifle on the left has the extendable version of the ACE Skeletal Stock, making it not compliant with the Assault Weapons Ban.

    The protruding grip for the non trigger hand would cause the others to be banned. They also want them banned for, “a shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely covers it, allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand without being burned…”  The want to make it illegal to make the gun safer.

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    TheSockMonkey (View Comment):

    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Does the mini 14 use the same STANAG magazine? I guess I can just google it.

    No. I wish. It requires insertion from the front and rocking it back to lock, like an AK. One disadvantage of the platform is it doesn’t have the aftermarket like AR’s do.

    So, if it’s like an AK magazine, does that make it military-grade?

    Worse, now that the Marines are changing to Magpul magazines, does that make them weapons of war?

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