Charlottesville Violence Not Our Fight

 

This weekend’s violence at the University of Virginia’s campus in Charlottesville, VA, was a clash between tribes. Inevitably, the opposing factions tried to prove their superiority by force, which is, fundamentally, the only argument that can be made for the supremacy of one tribe over another.

The fight was between two socialist factions – socialist because collectivism is the pathology of socialism, whether the national socialism of the right or the Marxist socialism of the left. Neither conservatives nor libertarians have a dog in this fight.

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  1. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):
    The Alt-Right is a gift to the radical left, and will be used to justify violence against, not only the Alt-Right, but against the right in general.

    And the media and the Democrats will justify it.

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  2. Richard Fulmer Inactive
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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):
    The Alt-Right is a gift to the radical left, and will be used to justify violence against, not only the Alt-Right, but against the right in general.

    And the media and the Democrats will justify it.

    They already have.

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  3. Judithann Campbell Member
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    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):
    The Alt-Right is a gift to the radical left, and will be used to justify violence against, not only the Alt-Right, but against the right in general.

    After months of nationwide advertising, 200 idiots showed up at this “alt-right” rally. The left wants us to believe that 200 people is a huge and dangerous groundswell. Why are you agreeing with them?

    White supremacist marches are nothing new; they have been happening all of my life, until now, we have just ignored them. The “alt right” as you call it, is nothing new: the kkk and others of their ilk have been with us for some time now, and they have been claiming to be republicans for a long time now too. But after at least 50 of this, the MSM decides to freak over it, and you seem to think they are justified. Why?

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  4. Richard Fulmer Inactive
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    Judithann Campbell (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):
    The Alt-Right is a gift to the radical left, and will be used to justify violence against, not only the Alt-Right, but against the right in general.

    After months of nationwide advertising, 200 idiots showed up at this “alt-right” rally. The left wants us to believe that 200 people is a huge and dangerous groundswell. Why are you agreeing with them?

    White supremacist marches are nothing new; they have been happening all of my life, until now, we have just ignored them. The “alt right” as you call it, is nothing new: the kkk and others of their ilk have been with us for some time now, and they have been claiming to be republicans for a long time now too. But after at least 50 of this, the MSM decides to freak over it, and you seem to think they are justified. Why?

    How does my belief that the left will try to use the rally to justify violence from their own ranks translate into a belief that the rally represented a “huge and dangerous groundswell” or that I believe that the MSM is justified in reporting it as such?

    Do you really believe that the left won’t try to use the rally for propaganda purposes?  They’ve already tried to raise money off of it.

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    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):
    Do you believe that the left won’t try to use the rally for propaganda purposes?

    Of course they will. So? 200 idiots who say they like Trump mean absolutely nothing; the “alt-right” is nothing, and we should say so. We should not be helping the left to turn the “alt-right” into some of bogeyman that will be the destruction of us all.

    You are buying into their premises. You are allowing them to set the parameters of the debate, and you are far too worried about what they think. If what they think mattered, Trump would not have been elected and we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

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  6. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    The Birchers were right to alert Americans to the slow creep of Communism into our institutions. Perhaps if we’d heeded their warnings . . .

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  7. Midget Faded Rattlesnake Contributor
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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):
    The Birchers were right to alert Americans to the slow creep of Communism into our institutions. Perhaps if we’d heeded their warnings . . .

    They became kooky enough that they undermined their own efforts to get their warnings taken seriously. Big-L Libertarians have a similar kook problem.

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  8. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
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    Midget Faded Rattlesnake (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):
    The Birchers were right to alert Americans to the slow creep of Communism into our institutions. Perhaps if we’d heeded their warnings . . .

    They became kooky enough that they undermined their own efforts to get their warnings taken seriously. Big-L Libertarians have a similar kook problem.

    When I first saw Dr. Strangelove, I assumed the part about fluoridation being a Commie plot was just a clever bit of exaggeration… surely no one would actually believe something so outlandish…

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  9. Midget Faded Rattlesnake Contributor
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    Joseph Stanko (View Comment):

    Midget Faded Rattlesnake (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):
    The Birchers were right to alert Americans to the slow creep of Communism into our institutions. Perhaps if we’d heeded their warnings . . .

    They became kooky enough that they undermined their own efforts to get their warnings taken seriously. Big-L Libertarians have a similar kook problem.

    When I first saw Dr. Strangelove, I assumed the part about fluoridation being a Commie plot was just a clever bit of exaggeration…

    Hey! Me, too!

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  10. Brian Watt Inactive
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    Joseph Stanko (View Comment):

    Midget Faded Rattlesnake (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):
    The Birchers were right to alert Americans to the slow creep of Communism into our institutions. Perhaps if we’d heeded their warnings . . .

    They became kooky enough that they undermined their own efforts to get their warnings taken seriously. Big-L Libertarians have a similar kook problem.

    When I first saw Dr. Strangelove, I assumed the part about fluoridation being a Commie plot was just a clever bit of exaggeration… surely no one would actually believe something so outlandish…

    I still see tweets on Twitter ranting about fluoridation in water pipes from time to time. I quickly block these people.

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  11. profdlp Inactive
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    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    I still see tweets on Twitter ranting about fluoridation in water pipes from time to time. I quickly block these people.

    Someday you will wish you had listened to me.

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  12. Richard Fulmer Inactive
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    Judithann Campbell (View Comment):
    Judithann Campbell

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    Judithann Campbell

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):
    Do you believe that the left won’t try to use the rally for propaganda purposes?

    Of course they will. So?

    So, they will probably have some success with their propaganda efforts, thus my prediction that they will benefit politically.

    “…the ‘alt-right’ is nothing, and we should say so.”

    I disagree. The death of a young woman and the injury of several others were not nothing, and the young man who did it was nothing if not evil.

    “You are buying into their premises. You are allowing them to set the parameters of the debate…”

    Not at all. I’m just pointing out that it’s likely that the far left will be able to profit politically from the rally, and I suspect that they already have. That assessment is not based on a belief that the Alt-Right is some sort of mass movement or an all-powerful boogey man. Rather it’s based on the fact that the left desperately needs boogey men to sell their message (facts certainly won’t do the trick), and they (with the help of the MSM) will work to paint the Alt-Right as big and as menacing as they can.

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  13. Richard Fulmer Inactive
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    Then, of course, there’s that other reason that the left will make political gains from the UVA rally: Trump.

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  14. Derek Simmons Member
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    Unsk (View Comment):
    The Unite the Right people had a legal permit to protest and a right to express their opinions peacefully.

    The Antifa/BLM people did not have a permit and were there to incite violence.

    What he said

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