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Blood on Their Hands
Sadiq Khan: London mayor says terror attacks ‘part and parcel’ of living in a major city.
I grew up in England, have returned many times and watched as the town of my childhood profoundly changed. There is no doubt a vast majority of immigrants are hardworking, family-minded people of good faith. But we now have a reality that the media won’t report due to political correctness, that there are extremist Sharia no-go zones across the island country that politicians and police will not address.
Manchester is suffering tonight from the result of Islamism expanding across the country. On my last trip to Birmingham, I stopped for a pint at a local pub on the way to the airport and found myself in one such zone. I was practically escorted out as young Muslim men dressed like football hooligans eyed me with contempt. My guardian angel told me I had no business in that pub or neighborhood, that the “police won’t ‘elp you ‘ere, guv.”
As National Review’s Andrew C. McCarthy stated, “Birmingham, a city increasingly enveloped by sharia enclaves that, to varying degrees, have become “no-go zones” for non-Muslims and agents of the state, including police.”
Theresa May is up for re-election on June 8 and this act of barbarism will play a role in her campaign, as it should.
For those of us parents who have taken their teenagers to concerts just like this, we have a message for politicians across the globe; It’s time to take back the narrative from those who’s national security policy’s primary concern is Islamophobia or racism. Frankly, damn them. Their political correctness will only result in more carnage, more parents mourning, and more children dying.
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You do realize that he had the “sleepless night” after the attack in New York, not the attack in London, and he had the sleepless night because he realized that he would not be able to prevent a similar attack on his city.
This guy is the Mayor of a city, he doesn’t set immigration policy for his country, and England has many muslim terrorists that are citizens, so no immigration restriction is going to eliminate the problem.
Apparently the issue is that this mayor is Muslim, and to many, no Muslim can do anything creditable.
Some people would like “mitigate” or “lessen” even if they can’t have “eliminate.”
I think his response would be be the same. You can’t completely eliminate terror attacks. You do the best you can, but with a committed asymmetric enemy, you simply can’t eliminate the threat. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try, as I think this Mayor has tried.
My speculative question to you, if this Mayor was a Christian, would your outrage over his comments be the same?
That’s fine, but it is not within the Mayor’s power to impact the immigration policies of the UK in the slightest.
That’s sort of the argument gun grabbers use after every mass shooting.
And I have sleepless nights because neither he nor Bill DiBlasio or any of their ilk will do the necessary things to try to prevent a similar attack.
He called them terrorists and said they wanted to kill, maim, and terrify. That sounds pretty accurate as the cause.
My mayor is Bill DiBlasio. Is it politically correct to be Christian? If it is then he’s Christian. Maybe. Unless he’s Buddhist. Or Wiccan. Whatever. My response is identical.
Bill DiBlasio would not call them terrorists or have a sleepless night over concern about terrorists attacking his city. He won’t even show up on time for a meeting to discuss terrorism.
My point is, this breathless thread is a reaction to a quote taken out of context targeted at a Muslim because they are a Muslim, not because of what he actually did. I thought conservatives were better than that. I was wrong. I won’t make the same mistake again.
Terrorists. What flavor? IRA? Scottish Separatists? Masonic Militants? Puritans bent on revenge? Violent anti-abortionists? Maybe it’s Brexit-related? Earth Liberation Front? PETA? Who knows. Could be anyone!?!?!
The linked article has a dateline Thursday 22 September 2016 14:13 BST. It was not a reaction to last night’s terror attack.
And my point…backed up by my point that I would react identically if DiBlasio said it … Is that it has nothing to do with his being Muslim and everything to do with his being gutlessly politically correct!!!
But, unlike DiBlasio, this mayor is deeply concerned about preparing for and preventing Terrorism. But you refuse to believe that because he is Muslim.
As I said, I won’t make the same mistake again.
Yes, that quote was from a while ago…
Nevermind
That’s the result, not the cause.
Don’t mistake the symptom for the disease.
None of us really knows what he’s thinking. You’re doing as much projecting and ‘assuming’ as you accuse me of.
I think he’s ineffectual. I think he has earlier spouted flawed thinking (as in ‘we’re all just going to have a accept this as part of big city life’). I think he’s part of the problem.
Has Kahn changed his position since Sept 2016? No? Then it’s in context and applicable.
It is a part of big city life. That is an unavoidable fact. We can and should do everything we can to prevent it (as I believe this mayor is trying to do), but we cannot eliminate.
The fact remains, I am about a thousand times more likely to get shot driving home through the west side of Chicago than I am to be killed in a terrorist attack.
We have to be vigilant, but we shouldn’t automatically believe that a Muslim mayor is unwilling to do what it takes to defend his citizens because he is a Muslim.
I agree that this quote seems to have been taken out of context and I remember it being used as clickbait when the mayor first said it. I don’t agree that this thread is a reaction to the quote, rather it is a reaction to this brutal terrorist attack. The main point of the O.P. stands because there are plenty of other people who espouse the thinking that living with this kind of threat is an acceptable sacrifice on the altar of multiculturalism. It’s as if they are in some sort of civilizational suicide cult. Want an example?
I have already addressed this. No. It has nothing to do with him being Muslim. Why are you calling me a liar?
Oh good grief!
Why do you assume they aren’t doing everything in their power to try to prevent attacks? Are you privy to all the meetings and actions taken by the cities? How would you assess that they are doing enough?
Yes, this is a big problem too – and not being solved for the same reason – political correctness.
Plus – there is a problem with your assessment of risk. Its not an either/or proposition. British people are more likely to die in a car accident (I’m assuming) than by terrorist, but with terrorism now a part of their lives, it becomes added risk to their lives. The same will apply if you live in Chicago. If terror bombing became a part of life there – you have added risk in your life even if your chances of being killed or maimed is higher with one event than another – its still part of the risk of your life.
You don’t have to be privy to anything except the morning paper. They close the borders to immigrants and refugees from countries where vetting is nearly impossible? No. They surveil the mosques? No. They look for and deport people who overstay their visas? No. These are a few obvious things that aren’t being done. And aren’t being done for politically correct purposes. So, no, they aren’t doing everything in their power. No.
OK ;)
And in Rotherham …
FTR, I wrote a comment asking where the “unfollow” button was because it wasn’t where I thought it was and I couldn’t unfollow this train-wreck quick enough. I eventually found it and edited the comment to say “nevermind”.
To those focused on the Khan qoute, I could have qualified his statement with “The Mayor of London has accepted this type of carnage as the price for “living in a major city”. But as dicussed in the OP and my subsequent comments on page 1, the larger point of his and other like-minded politicians pathetic response to Englands no-go zones epitomizes the politically correct cowardice that leads to continual terrorist attacks throughout England and the rest of Europe.
I agree with Sussman. Using the quote was not inappropriate to make the point. To those focused on defending Khan from (what exactly, unreasonable press), I just don’t get it. The point, which was well made, is that politicians are saying those kinds of irresponsible things. Oh, it’s not just him, nor is it just his policies, but it sure does a good job of making the point. Khan is one who came out and said it. He is a Labour/lefty mayor of another big UK city. I don’t see how it is unreasonable to use his quotes to make a point.
And you know what, not too much has been said to refute/argue the actual point, that politicians aren’t doing what they should be in big cities. I have mostly seen that it is just that we shouldn’t blame Khan for it, cause that is totally what the post was saying /sarc.