Don’t Overstate Donald Trump’s Victory

 

Many pixels have been spilled and there’s been much talk in the last six weeks about Donald Trump’s victory and the larger implications, how everything has shifted, and the ways in which America has changed forever.

Slow down.

First, I heard the same thing in 2004 after George W. Bush was reelected. This was supposed to be a generational shift, setting up Republican dominance for a generation. (Yeah, not so much.) Then I heard in again in 2008 and 2012. Those elections changed everything and America as we knew it was over. (Yeah, not so much.) Indeed, coming into the 2016, I heard much fretting from conservatives about how, because of demographic changes, there probably would never be another Republican president. Demography is destiny, after all. (Yeah, not so much.)

Now I’m hearing it again. The Democrats as a party are over. They’ve lost the white working class forever. They’re now limited to a few enclaves on the coasts. And so on and so on. There’s a natural tendency to think that everything has changed. Well it hasn’t. Donald Trump scored an upset to be sure, but he didn’t win big.

Yes, he won a majority of the America

a majority of those who voted

a plurality of those who voted

just enough people in the right combination of states to eek out a victory. But despite Trump’s claims, his was not an “historic electoral landslide.” He ranks 46th out of 58 in percentage of the electoral vote and far below the historical average.

And like it or not, Donald Trump lost the popular vote by two million votes. Ah, yes, but he won 30 states! And look at that county-by-county map! It’s a sea of red! America has embraced Trump. Yeah, the thing is that those blue islands are where all the people are.

I count 11 states, Mississippi, Arkansas, Kansas, Utah, Nebraska, West Virginia, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, Wyoming, and Alaska, where Trump’s vote total was less than 769,743. What’s significant about that number? Well, 769,743 is the number of votes Trump got in just Los Angeles county. Trump got more votes in that one county, which he lost by 50 points, than he got in any of those 11 states.

So what’s my point in mentioning all this?

First, there wasn’t some grand Trump earthquake that changed everything. He was running against the most unpopular woman and America. And together, Trump and Clinton were so unpopular that two million people didn’t even vote on the presidential line. Did lots of disenfranchised Rust Belt white people turn out for Trump? They sure did. Some 62 million people voted for Donald Trump. But some 74 million people voted against him.

Second, while it didn’t determine the winner, the popular vote is not without significance. One of the things we learned from the 2000 election is the symbolic importance of the popular vote. And 54 percent of the people came out to vote, voted against Trump. What does that mean? It means he doesn’t have much of a mandate. It would behoove the new President to tread lightly, to think of the 54 percent of folks who voted against him, and to be the President of the whole nation.

Am I suggesting he go all squishy? Certainly not. But when you poke people in the eye over and over, you’re going to create problems for yourself. And if you’re going to be the President of the whole nation, you’d do well, especially after this very contentious election cycle, and an electoral victory where 74 million people voted against him, not to be intentionally antagonistic.

I suggest President Trump learn from the example of his predecessor. Barack Obama had a much larger mandate. For eight years he engaged in scorched earth tactics. He spit in people’s faces. He tried to force through legislation, without trying to compromise, without trying to reach out to the tens of millions of people who voted against him.

And what did he get for his troubles? A shattered party and a legacy that’s in ashes.

Do I expect Donald Trump to heed this suggestion or anything similar? No, of course not. A man who brags about the size of the penis in front of a national debate audience doesn’t do modesty.

But if he were wise, he might consider it.

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  1. PHCheese Inactive
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    In Charleston county SC there was a  referendum this past election for an additional half cent sales tax. Of course it was only on our ballot not the surrounding counties or Mexico or   Canada and none of the citizens of those places could vote for or against the tax. My point?  Los Angeles county has 10 million people a third noncitizens. Why should they determine a National election? There are now cities in California that no longer speak English for heaven sakes.

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  2. Umbra Fractus Inactive
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    AnonyMouse:

    Fred Cole: But despite Trump’s claims, his was not an “historic electoral landslide.”

    If his rhetoric about a landslide means he is going to behave as if it was a landslide, I’m perfectly okay with that. It doesn’t make much sense numbers wise, but my hunch is that if he behaves like there was a landslide this time (energetically completing items off his promised todo list), 2 years from now and 4 years from now there will be actual landslides in his favor.

    Obama thought the same thing.

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  3. Trinity Waters Member
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    Franco:You were making a semi-coherent argument and then you did this:

    Fred Cole:Do I expect Donald Trump to heed this suggestion or anything similar? No, of course not. A man who brags about the size of the penis in front of a national debate audience doesn’t do modesty.

    This is a completely false statement and should be retracted. Trump was mocked by someone for his small hands which is supposed to co-relate to penis size. Trump said he was just ‘fine’ in that department.

    Some people simply do not understand visceral politics. You cannot allow people to say certain things, no matter how absurd or untrue and just walk away. One’s honor (and yes penis size) must be defended. These people are schoolyard bullies and when they see weakness they continue to attack. Bush allowed all kinds of toxic attacks to go unanswered, and that begat a narrative that allowed a two-bit community organizer to win the Presidency, whose margin of victory was also a function of the Bush legacy and the doddering fool of an opponent.

    In any case, the word ‘bragged” renders the statement false, and it reveals the profound misunderstanding and odd fixations of the poster.

    It needs saying that this comment is perfectly true.  Odd fixations, indeed.

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  4. Front Seat Cat Member
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    Jamie Lockett:

    10 cents:Winning is winning and whining is whining. I can tell the difference. Winning is when there is smiling. Whining is when excuses abound and you denigrate the winning.

    Donald Trump won.

    You see no value in the President in a representative Republic taking into account the nature of that win when he hopes to govern? Tell me how well that worked out for Obama when ran roughshod over all his opponents and acted like a wannabe dictator?

    I think we should attempt to see the nuance in Fred’s position here, he has very clearly stated that he does not think Trump should suddenly become a wilting flower, only that he should know both the limitations of his office, and of politics in general.

    This reminds me of the hanging chads days – the recounts – the attorneys – the bitterness of the Gore camp and the Democrats.  I just thank God to this day that on 9/11 it was Bush in the WH and not Gore.

     

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  5. Umbra Fractus Inactive
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    The Reticulator:Is it also the case that we should not overstate the horrors of the upcoming Trump administration?

    (Asking for a friend.)

    Yes.

    Ultimately we should be honest about him whether it “helps” or not. If he’s right praise him; if he’s wrong criticize him. That’s what intellectually honest people do. Ignoring or dismissing his flaws because it might help the Democrats is not good for either the country or the conservative movement, but neither is focusing on his flaws to the exclusion of everything else.

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  6. EJHill Podcaster
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    I find it amusing that, as we stand here one day after the Electoral College vote made it official, we are still getting pronouncements from professional and amateur pundits alike that Donald Trump is getting the politics all wrong. (Please note I said politics and not policy. Those are two separate things.) They’re like the “expert” fan sitting in the stands yelling at the manager. “You idiot! That’s not a bunting situation!” even after the play works.

    To extend the sports analogy the Electoral College vote are the points you put up on the board and the only ones that count. You can out hit your opponent in baseball, out run them in football and out shoot them in basketball and still lose. It’s all statistical noise in the end. The only question that matters is, “Did you win?”

    And winning does give you a mandate. There’s no magical number you have to reach or margin needed greater than 1.

    Finally, if one is going to frame an argument that another man’s humility is called for, perhaps it isn’t best to suggest that wisdom is found in listening to the one making that argument. Humility is best taught through example.

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  7. Front Seat Cat Member
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    No one expects a 100% perfect situation when the country is and has been divided right down the middle for years.

    You can divide up who won the popular vote all you want, and decipher why people voted or didn’t.  What you Fred, and Bill and Hillary, and Huma, and Podesta and others don’t get is, the rest of the country also rejected the progressive politics on a much bigger scale than just the presidency.   Republicans gained in the House, Senate, gained governors, legislators, county commissioners, dog catchers, mosquito sprayers – across the board the change was very obvious.  No more business as usual – a full on tea party, take no prisoners event.

    It had nothing to do with fake news, Russians or any other excuses.  In my little town, there was just about a complete replacement of all the good ol boys (and girls) with new blood and it was sorely needed.

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  8. Umbra Fractus Inactive
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    C. U. Douglas:

    Personally, I think he’s got four years, tops, to do anything. Unless he can prove an effective and decisive leader who can bring the country together, he just won’t last. He’s demonstrated none of that. That’s my prediction.

    I disagree. Recent history shows that unless he is either a Carteresque screw up or a Reaganesque success, he’ll get reelected in 2020 and replaced by a Democrat in 2024.

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  9. Umbra Fractus Inactive
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    Front Seat Cat: Republicans gained in the House, Senate,

    Actually, no, they lost a net 6 seats in the House and 2 in the Senate. That just wasn’t enough to lose control.

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  10. Fred Cole Inactive
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    PHCheese: There are now cities in California that no longer speak English for heaven sakes.

    That’s nothing new. America is a diverse place. There have always been communities where English is not the dominant language.

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  11. C. U. Douglas Coolidge
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    Umbra Fractus:

    C. U. Douglas:

    Personally, I think he’s got four years, tops, to do anything. Unless he can prove an effective and decisive leader who can bring the country together, he just won’t last. He’s demonstrated none of that. That’s my prediction.

    I disagree. Recent history shows that unless he is either a Carteresque screw up or a Reaganesque success, he’ll get reelected in 2020 and replaced by a Democrat in 2024.

    I’ve greatly approved of his cabinet, but mostly because that cabinet so far seems to support a lot of my more reformed-minded ideas. Whether they can pull it off is a big order. Thing is …

    If he pull it off, it’ll cause serious ripples that will bring a Democrat congress in 2018 and a hotly contested election in 2020. His advantage this year was how awful Clinton was. His advantage in 2020 will be incumbency, but Trump will still be Trump with all of his flaws. A leopard can’t change his spots. He’ll fall to a left-wing populist.

    If he doesn’t pull it off, he’ll look like a typical politician — all promise and no deliver. For a normal politician this is a small character flaw. For an outsider decrying politics as usual this is a liability. Also, he’ll still be Trump. Again, I predict four years. I’ll bet you a steak dinner on that.

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  12. The Reticulator Member
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    Fred Cole:

    Franco: One’s honor (and yes penis size) must be defended.

    It’s interesting how every other presidential candidate, probably in history, was able to avoid talking about the size of their penis in a nationally televised debate.

    LBJ liked to talk about the size of his penis but he didn’t do any nationally televised debates. I suppose it was best that he left some things for his successors to do.

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  13. Rodin Member
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    Mountie: @fredcole I agree with you that Trump doesn’t represent a sea change.

    I don’t think we can say one way or another right now. All party politics are driven by vote totals. While each party has a historical core philosophy (top down – Democrats, bottom up – Republicans) in practice they adopt policies adverse to those philosophies when vote totals require them to.

    Trump is a complex “top down” guy. As a business owner he wants to set policy and mission and control resources and strategy, but experience has taught him that success requires subordinate freedom in dealing acting tactically. So he sees himself as creating a national framework within which individual initiative will prosper. He sees USA Inc competing globally and in need of strategic cohesion that can only come from the top.

    The Republican Party has been an instrument of ideology but is not the source of ideology. If Trumpism gets and maintains vote totals, the Republican Party will be the party of Trump, just like it was the party of Reagan until the Bushes eradicated the voting support for Republicans.

    One may well ask why the Republican Party successfully limited Tea Party success while succumbing to Trump? Vote totals, plain and simple. The Tea Party had no single unifying personality that could command and control the vote. Trump has. If he continues to do so, it will be a “sea change.” But we do not know that yet.

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  14. The Reticulator Member
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    Jamie Lockett:
    Jamie Lockett

    10 cents:Winning is winning and whining is whining. I can tell the difference. Winning is when there is smiling. Whining is when excuses abound and you denigrate the winning.

    Donald Trump won.

    You see no value in the President in a representative Republic taking into account the nature of that win when he hopes to govern? Tell me how well that worked out for Obama when ran roughshod over all his opponents and acted like a wannabe dictator?

    It worked out pretty well for President Obama and the Ruling Class, and not so well for their victims.

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  15. Jamie Lockett Member
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    The Reticulator:

    Jamie Lockett:
    Jamie Lockett

    10 cents:Winning is winning and whining is whining. I can tell the difference. Winning is when there is smiling. Whining is when excuses abound and you denigrate the winning.

    Donald Trump won.

    You see no value in the President in a representative Republic taking into account the nature of that win when he hopes to govern? Tell me how well that worked out for Obama when ran roughshod over all his opponents and acted like a wannabe dictator?

    It worked out pretty well for President Obama and the Ruling Class, and not so well for their victims.

    Obama achieved one single policy goal of his administration and has presided over the utter electoral decimation of his own party. I don’t think reality comports with your vision of it.

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  16. Franco Member
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    Fred Cole:

    Franco: Your knowledge of history is suspect. A

    You’re right. I don’t remember Jefferson saying that in a nationally televised debate.

    Going to great lengths to defend yourself here, I see. It doesn’t help your credibility. Clearly you are hostile to all things Trump, which is your right, but you can’t expect to sway people if you get all the basics wrong.

    Fred Cole: But when you poke people in the eye over and over, you’re going to create problems for yourself.

    Yes Fred. You are creating problems for yourself by misrepresenting events that are easily researched. Then you make statements in the comment section that are easily disproved, and hide behind cute technicalities as your version of rebuttal.

    It is this kind of rhetoric that has many Ricochet members canceling, including me, The Daily Shot because it is filled with half-truths, inaccuracies and misrepresentations.

     

     

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  17. Miffed White Male Member
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    Jamie Lockett:

    The Reticulator:

    Jamie Lockett:
    Jamie Lockett

    10 cents:Winning is winning and whining is whining. I can tell the difference. Winning is when there is smiling. Whining is when excuses abound and you denigrate the winning.

    Donald Trump won.

    You see no value in the President in a representative Republic taking into account the nature of that win when he hopes to govern? Tell me how well that worked out for Obama when ran roughshod over all his opponents and acted like a wannabe dictator?

    It worked out pretty well for President Obama and the Ruling Class, and not so well for their victims.

    Obama achieved one single policy goal of his administration and has presided over the utter electoral decimation of his own party. I don’t think reality comports with your vision of it.

    Kagen and Sotameyer are still on the Supreme Court.  Obamacare still stands, as do a whole lot of other policies that are going to be difficult to completely obliterate.

    I think it’s the movie Married to the Mob that  starts with a killer getting released from prison after 20 years and someone asks him if it was worth it, and he says “The Guys still dead, isn’t he?”

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  18. The Reticulator Member
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    Jamie Lockett:

    The Reticulator:

    Jamie Lockett:
    Jamie Lockett

    10 cents:Winning is winning and whining is whining. I can tell the difference. Winning is when there is smiling. Whining is when excuses abound and you denigrate the winning.

    Donald Trump won.

    You see no value in the President in a representative Republic taking into account the nature of that win when he hopes to govern? Tell me how well that worked out for Obama when ran roughshod over all his opponents and acted like a wannabe dictator?

    It worked out pretty well for President Obama and the Ruling Class, and not so well for their victims.

    Obama achieved one single policy goal of his administration and has presided over the utter electoral decimation of his own party. I don’t think reality comports with your vision of it.

    More checklistist nonsense from the people that Peggy Noonan warned us about.  He grew the federal payroll and further corrupted the student loan program. He subjugated the universities and got them to hire more people to install kangaroo courts. He put down the tea parties through abusive of power the IRS. He gave away the management of the internet. He co-opted social media companies to become propaganda arms of the government. All this increased the power of the ruling class.  Whether those are items in your “policy goal” checklist is irrelevant to the actual policies and their malevolent effect on the people and our system of government.

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  19. Cow Girl Thatcher
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    Trump did all that I hoped for by shutting down the Clintons. Whatever else happens in the next four years will be gravy.

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  20. The Reticulator Member
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    Miffed White Male: I think it’s the movie Married to the Mob that starts with a killer getting released from prison after 20 years and someone asks him if it was worth it, and he says “The Guys still dead, isn’t he?”

    Excellent analogy.  It’s for things like this that Ricochet needs a bookmark feature for comments.

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  21. Franco Member
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    What so many NeverTrumpers like Fred miss, is actually the quality of the Trump voter. This is what is unprecedented. They have rejected the propaganda media, they have elected DJT to “kick over the table” as Gingrich recently said. It’s a movement, and this movement is being further empowered by the nevernaysayers. They are just outing themselves as the opposition, and will lose yet more influence.

    What is worthy of note is the fact that these voters voted for him despite the NeverTrumpers at NR and Weekly Standard, the entire MSM including, half of Fox News, the Democratic Party with key allies in the GOP, the relentless attack ads paid for by globalist donors, the rest of the world globalist society, a poison pill candidate focusing one one or two vulnerable states with the express purpose of thwarting Trump, and last and perhaps least, Fred Cole himself and his influential and widely distributed Daily Shot, lining up against him.

    Instead of recognizing the movement and the passion and viability of it, many are consoling themselves with pretty lies and rationalizations, desperately clinging to the phantom of abstractions.

     

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  22. Jamie Lockett Member
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    The Reticulator:

    Jamie Lockett:

    The Reticulator:

    Jamie Lockett:
    Jamie Lockett

    10 cents:Winning is winning and whining is whining. I can tell the difference. Winning is when there is smiling. Whining is when excuses abound and you denigrate the winning.

    Donald Trump won.

    You see no value in the President in a representative Republic taking into account the nature of that win when he hopes to govern? Tell me how well that worked out for Obama when ran roughshod over all his opponents and acted like a wannabe dictator?

    It worked out pretty well for President Obama and the Ruling Class, and not so well for their victims.

    Obama achieved one single policy goal of his administration and has presided over the utter electoral decimation of his own party. I don’t think reality comports with your vision of it.

    More checklistist nonsense from the people that Peggy Noonan warned us about. He grew the federal payroll and further corrupted the student loan program. He subjugated the universities and got them to hire more people to install kangaroo courts. He put down the tea parties through abusive of power the IRS. He gave away the management of the internet. He co-opted social media companies to become propaganda arms of the government. All this increased the power of the ruling class. Whether those are items in your “policy goal” checklist is irrelevant to the actual policies and their malevolent effect on the people and our system of government.

    And all of that led to his parties utter electoral decimation, the complete takeover of state governments by Republicans, the loss of the Senate and the election of Donald Trump. Is that what you want to happen to Republicans in 4-8 years?

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  23. Jamie Lockett Member
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    Franco:What so many NeverTrumpers like Fred miss, is actually the quality of the Trump voter. This is what is unprecedented. They have rejected the propaganda media, they have elected DJT to “kick over the table” as Gingrich recently said. It’s a movement, and this movement is being further empowered by the nevernaysayers. They are just outing themselves as the opposition, and will lose yet more influence.

    What is worthy of note is the fact that these voters voted for him despite the NeverTrumpers at NR and Weekly Standard, the entire MSM including, half of Fox News, the Democratic Party with key allies in the GOP, the relentless attack ads paid for by globalist donors, the rest of the world globalist society, a poison pill candidate focusing one one or two vulnerable states with the express purpose of thwarting Trump, and last and perhaps least, Fred Cole himself and his influential and widely distributed Daily Shot, lining up against him.

    Instead of recognizing the movement and the passion and viability of it, many are consoling themselves with pretty lies and rationalizations, desperately clinging to the phantom of abstractions.

    Do you think absent Hillary’s awfulness as many of the “quality” people you talk about would have voted for Trump?

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  24. Aaron Miller Inactive
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    Fred Cole: And if you’re going to be the President of the whole nation, you’d do well, especially after this very contentious election cycle, and an electoral victory where 74 million people voted against him, not to be intentionally antagonistic.

    I agree about voter demographics (urban :s rural as always), but not with this. Only Republicans think this way, which is a recipe for defeat.

    More to the point, this is simply how elections work. The majority gets its policies enacted. It wasn’t a problem until the voters of one party stopped caring about the rights of others and the rule of law.

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  25. Umbra Fractus Inactive
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    Franco:

    Instead of recognizing the movement and the passion and viability of it, many are consoling themselves with pretty lies and rationalizations, desperately clinging to the phantom of abstractions.

    SJW’s are passionate too. They’re still a minority.

    Don’t mistake excitement for a mandate. That’s how the Democrats got where they are today.

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  26. Umbra Fractus Inactive
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    Umbra Fractus:

    Don’t mistake excitement for a mandate. That’s how the Democrats got where they are today.

    In hindsight, I can see how this can be misinterpreted. I am not endorsing do-nothing-ism. We most certainly do need to repeal Obamacare and take a sledgehammer to the regulatory state. What I was saying is that we need to remember that there will be pushback, and we need to be prepared to make the case that what we’re doing is right, and not just dismiss dissenting voices as, “Media elites.”

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  27. Franco Member
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    Jamie Lockett: Do you think absent Hillary’s awfulness as many of the “quality” people you talk about would have voted for Trump?

    I didn’t call them “quality people” as you imply. I said the quality of the voters, and this would naturally exclude the reluctant Trump voters. However, many reluctants will become supporters. It’s already happening. I see in myself, who was once reluctant and now I’m a supporter. It’s a fight with the media propaganda and yes, globalists, the old guard who are losing influence and faux conservatives. Real conservatives are mostly reluctant Trump voters IMO, and I respect them much, much more than the nevers.

     

     

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  28. Aaron Miller Inactive
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    Consider this. If Republicans entirely ignored the interests of Democrats when they could (also pretending Republicans are generally interested in limited and representative — not bureaucratic — government), then they could eliminate several agencies and powers. So if Democrats regained control because of angry voters and ignored Republican interests as usual, it wouldn’t matter as much as before because Republicans had eliminated the powers Democrats would otherwise use against us.

    Even if Democrats regained popularity for a decade in backlash, Republicans would benefit in the long run by dismantling the Leviathan.

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  29. The Reticulator Member
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    Jamie Lockett:

    More checklistist nonsense from the people that Peggy Noonan warned us about. He grew the federal payroll and further corrupted the student loan program. He subjugated the universities and got them to hire more people to install kangaroo courts. He put down the tea parties through abusive of power the IRS. He gave away the management of the internet. He co-opted social media companies to become propaganda arms of the government. All this increased the power of the ruling class. Whether those are items in your “policy goal” checklist is irrelevant to the actual policies and their malevolent effect on the people and our system of government.

    And all of that led to his parties utter electoral decimation, the complete takeover of state governments by Republicans, the loss of the Senate and the election of Donald Trump. Is that what you want to happen to Republicans in 4-8 years?

    I don’t much care what happens to professional Republicans. I care what happens to we the people.  If there is a vague correlation between the two, now and then, I might care about that. But I’m not going to make the livelihoods of professional Republicans my primary goal.

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  30. Jamie Lockett Member
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    The Reticulator:

    Jamie Lockett:

    More checklistist nonsense from the people that Peggy Noonan warned us about. He grew the federal payroll and further corrupted the student loan program. He subjugated the universities and got them to hire more people to install kangaroo courts. He put down the tea parties through abusive of power the IRS. He gave away the management of the internet. He co-opted social media companies to become propaganda arms of the government. All this increased the power of the ruling class. Whether those are items in your “policy goal” checklist is irrelevant to the actual policies and their malevolent effect on the people and our system of government.

    And all of that led to his parties utter electoral decimation, the complete takeover of state governments by Republicans, the loss of the Senate and the election of Donald Trump. Is that what you want to happen to Republicans in 4-8 years?

    I don’t much care what happens to professional Republicans. I care what happens to we the people. If there is a vague correlation between the two, now and then, I might care about that. But I’m not going to make the livelihoods of professional Republicans my primary goal.

    What do you think would happen to “we the people” if the Democrats gained the electoral dominance that Republicans have enjoyed over the last two cycles?

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