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What Happens if Trump Refuses to Concede?
You presumably saw him say he might not. He hinted that unflattering articles in The New York Times amounted, in his mind, to “rigging” the election:
What I’ve seen — what I’ve seen is so bad. First of all, the media is so dishonest and so corrupt, and the pile-on is so amazing. The New York Times actually wrote an article about it, but they don’t even care. It’s so dishonest. And they’ve poisoned the mind of the voters.
Anyone left who still thinks this man’s playing with a full deck? If so, a question for you. What will you do if Trump refuses to concede?
Published in General
This election cycle I get the sense the the MSM feels it is their patriotic duty to derail the Trump Presidential candidacy(not that Trump needs much help).
Because it’s Trump, the MSM feels no compunction to feign objectivity and even disguise their disdain of Trump and their open cheer leading for Hillary Clinton.
You think that is beyond His control?
My prayer is that peoples’ eyes are open to the damage and cost of handing over control of your money and your lives to self-interested, power-hungry politicians. It would be nice if we could learn this before the middle class is destroyed.
What happens if I insist I’m Emperor Napoleon?
I thought he was nuts. On the other hand, that election was actually close. Really not comparable. There won’t be a contested election with a 10% and 90 EV margin.
They say the Republican party should be ashamed of Trump. But shouldn’t the Democrats and the Media (but I repeat myself) be ashamed of nominating and carrying to victory a thoroughly and demonstrably corrupt and dishonest politician?
Trump if he were serious would have had to fool most of the people for just a little bit of time to win the election. Instead he has gone with fooling some of the people all of the time. I guess that is more profitable. I just hope Hannity goes to work on the Trump Network, they all need to just be in one spot. So who wants to bet that if Trump does start a TV network it will be an RT affiliate funded by Russian Oligarchs, cause Trump is certainly not footing the bill himself.
Up front I can’t stand Trump. That being said he did not s,at that he would contest the election. He said that he’s would look at things at the time.
It’s a joke.
I don’t think I need basic lessons in suspiciousness.
I don’t know what the rest of the electorate thinks. I know what I think and I am here trying to put my voice out into the conversation. The sense of doom and gloom and wailing and gnashing of teeth over what a boob Trump is is tiresome.
There is good reason to fear for the integrity of the election system. There is good reason to avoid making stupid sound bite pledges based on hypothetical scenarios in this year of Wonders and unforseens.
Well if Trump was a Democrat they would have endless recounts until he finally won like they did for Al Franken. Since he is a Republican that even most of the Republicans do not like they will probably just declare Hillary the winner and move on. Heck they may even declare her the winner and move on before the election happens. That will make the most people happy and with Hillary being Hillary and all.
My liege! I stand ready to help you conquer Austria-Hungry.
It is not just a matter of ‘unflattering articles in the New York Times,’ it is the systematic downplaying of any negative-to-Hillary stories on the part of the vast majority of media. See
Kimberly Strassel–the press buries Hillary Clinton’s sins
and
Sharyl Attkisson–Newsgate 2016
Mama Toad, debates are conducted for the sake of the electorate, especially the electorate as yet uncommitted. They’re not for you, in short. You have got to try to find out how the famous uncommitted or what have you react to these things. That guy is not on stage for your sake.
The question about free & fair elections. If he had wanted to make a big deal of that, he had a long campaign to do it. There may still be some time. There are some videos out there & a few Dem operatives have been fired. But that’s not what that or any other part of the debate was about at all!
There was no Austria-Hungary back then! This is the kind of stuff that gets the patients to lose it-
Truthfully, I’ve thought that for years…. but not because he contested the election! Long before that… Maybe when he started wearing earth tones to mute his beta male vibes…
So I’m not part of the electorate? You seem to be telling me to be quiet. “Shut up,” he explained…
I have worked Democrat politics at the town / county / state level and they are corrupt as corrupt can be. I have even seen GOP members lockup up on trumped up charges just to send message to keep in their place. It may be that GOP politics is just as corrupt but I did not see it since in my area the GOP basically does not exist, they are generally good people that are tired of the Democrat machine and they may win an election here or there but eventually they get pushed out and shutdown.
Goodness! I’m saying that the fact that you like his answer does not mean it was the right thing to say. The purpose of the debate was not to convince Trump voters to be Trump voters. It was to persuade few more people who are neither Trump nor Clinton voters. & therefore that you should be asking yourself whether there are others jumping for joy along with you.
The purpose of the debate supplies the standards by which performance is judged, not merely everyone’s preference.
Everyone here & everywhere else in the world is free to speak as much & as loudly as they please. But that has nothing to do with judging the likely results of the debate & the likely astuteness or appositeness of any remark!
FJ/JG,
These anti-democratic creeping socialist fools are very close to doing exactly that.
Hey, let’s have the Nobel committee award the Presidency to whoever they think fit. Who needs this old irrelevant democracy thing. Why they just knew Obama was going to be great and just because absolutely every foreign policy move has been a disaster that shouldn’t affect our perception of the Nobel gang. Why they are secular Gds. Surely their genius must not be challenged.
No more of these annoying elections. Let those who know best choose for the rest of us.
Regards,
Jim
Get attention.
Trump was never going to win. It was not his purpose. His purpose was to get Hillary elected and give an illusion of Democracy. He has achieved his purpose and this will play out as expected.
He’s playing with a full deck. According to Gallup, three out of four Americans think that there is “widespread corruption” in government.
During this election season, the country saw proof of what the right has known for a very long time: that the mainstream media is biased and colludes with one political party to advance that party’s agenda and candidates.
So the public doesn’t trust the government and then they see the media defending the people who want to give them more government.
Progressives are horrified to hear that the public takes a dim view of government because for many progressives government is their faith. When voters question government they attack the progressive god. In response, progressives attack the rich and corporations, as if the first amendment and private property were the problems.
How much higher does the public’s disillusionment with government have to go before their voices are heard? What are the consequences for the U.S. if distrust goes to 85%? 90%? That would be horrifying.
The next president has to take the public’s perception seriously.
You saved me from writing this same exact sentiment. This is just Liberals wanting to see the Organ Grinder’s monkey dance. It deeply embarrasses me that I used to dance to there malistic melodies.
depends, what is your preferred pronoun?
Thank you Sancho!
I see this differently. Obviously Claire is not jumping for joy, and others share her foreboding and distress.
In JLocked’s post this morning, he explains how a conversation with a man full of conviction and brawn helped him to decide how to vote, even though he’d been leaning the other way.
Can I not try to do the same here? I think Trump did the right thing and made the right answer and I am telling people why.
Hin
Trump doesn’t preemptively concede anything, we should know that by now, and it’s a solid position to take. However, he couldn’t address the real problem which is voter fraud, especially vote harvesting which is the reason Democrats oppose voter I.D. Instead Trump focused, as he always does on himself and unfairness. Voter harvesting is difficult to catch at the time or measure after the fact. It requires photos of voters matched with names as they vote and random follow up. It’s probably huge and it’s good to send a signal that those who engage in it might be prosecuted by Trump should he win. It should be investigated and we should not simply write it off as neutralized by fraud by both sides. It’s an urban machine phenomena and may be the reason we get 95% democrat support in some urban precincts, that isn’t possible. His comment is being treated as an attack on the democratic process. It isn’t but widespread voter fraud is and it will only get worse.
I’d point out, as far as I know, that Gore accepted the results and conceded, once the recount was done.
Is that the object case, like him and her? If so, what is the subject case? Hi? Hee?