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What Happens if Trump Refuses to Concede?
You presumably saw him say he might not. He hinted that unflattering articles in The New York Times amounted, in his mind, to “rigging” the election:
What I’ve seen — what I’ve seen is so bad. First of all, the media is so dishonest and so corrupt, and the pile-on is so amazing. The New York Times actually wrote an article about it, but they don’t even care. It’s so dishonest. And they’ve poisoned the mind of the voters.
Anyone left who still thinks this man’s playing with a full deck? If so, a question for you. What will you do if Trump refuses to concede?
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210 comments and counting later……maybe not.
Please assure us with factual information. Please provide the information that will correct the false impression that Trump is not losing on a national level. Is there a national poll and hopefully more than one or two where Trump is actually leading? DrudgeReport post-debate polls don’t count.
I implore you not to go down the skewed/false poll rabbit hole again. It’s possible they’re wrong, I know lots of polls are off.
However, unless you can examine the polling methodology and determine flaws at the granular level don’t start conspiracizing.
And as a reminder no matter if you’re voting Trump, McMullin, Johnson or even Hillary vote Republican down ballot because no matter who gets elected a Democratic Congress will absolutely not help.
I’m not convinced that “unconventional” equates with “incompetence”. He’s made fairly quick work of many individuals feted for their political competence.
Just for me, I’ve never cottoned to the sidelines approach. There’s a pitched battle between two worldviews, and standing around letting others do the fighting just isn’t my style. Not to mention the people who are stepping back and shooting into their own trenches!
Sure is a good thing Trump doesn’t shoot into his own trenches. (Irony alert.)
I don’t know, I will consider it but I tend to flop when writing pieces. I am not being sarcastic when I say you are a much better writer then I am.
Perhaps you would consider writing a post that argues that it is appropriate, and part of civil and intelligent conversation, to state someone is worse than Hitler, based on their words not on their actions. Maybe you could include a section on how this type of thing is respectful to Holocaust victims and to the family’s who lost loved ones fighting WWII.
Thank you also for the excellent misrepresentation my remarks. I think Hitler comparisons are wrong, therefore I must think everything Trump says is awesome. Could you point out anyplace that I said anything like this?
What Trump says or does is outside the control of Ricochet. What Ricochet Contributors post to the main feed is directly within the control of Ricochet.
Zubrin was such a colossal disappointment.
He is truly a brilliant man and visionary, and all he had for Ricochet was National Socialists and NeverTrump.
Nothing.
Trump can act like the Japanese holdouts of World War II, and continue to fight the election of 2016 for twenty more years (if he lives that long), and it won’t make any difference.
Legally, once the election has been approved by the electorates Trump can cry all he wants and it won’t matter.
Shooting back, I think you mean!
I long ago concluded that Conservatives were faithless allies who would desert you when the going got tough.
The MSM is heavily Leftist and has been in the tank for Obama for a long time now. Trump – any Republican – is an intolerable obstacle. They said the same things about Romney that they’re saying about Trump. The fact that there’s more truth to it this time is coincidental, not programmatic.
First, I took issue with you introducing Hitler into the discussion that had nothing to do with Hitler. I believe that is a fair criticism.
Re: Hitler comparisons specifically – Some, maybe even most, are indeed over the top and inappropriate. But to posit that some of Trump’s methods or rhetoric should never be compared to Hitler during his rise to power and his appeals to nationalism and the populist movement that emerged would be to ignore some very reasonable historical analysis of Trump and the Trump phenomenon – one could say the same of the Bernie Sanders movement – though Bernie is a pale imitation of Trump. Unfortunately, when Hitler is mentioned, many Trump supporters always take it to mean that Trump is being accused of holding the same evil designs as Hitler in the extermination of the Jews and therefore any comparison to Hitler is out of bounds. Jonah Goldberg discussed this in more detail than I’m doing so a few months ago. It may take some time to dredge up the link.
If I accused you of subscribing to some of Trump’s more vile and offensive rhetoric, I apologize. That said, I’m always amazed at how deeply offended some Trump supporters can get when Trump is criticized in any fashion particularly given the verbal abuse that Trump himself is known, and in some cases, revered for.
Personally, I think it’s not of bounds to question either Trump or Hillary’s sanity especially given their respective public behavior and pronouncements. If you or others think that Ricochet contributors should never call a candidate’s psychological state into question, then that’s a position you can certainly take. I just don’t think it will get anywhere.
If I recall, I think the attack on John McCain was unprovoked. Susanna Martinez made a decision not to appear on stage with the Great Trump. Rather than ignoring it, Trump went after her hammer and tongs mischaracterizing her record as Governor of New Mexico and telling his followers what a rotten governor she was. That is the behavior of a petulant narcissist who demands that others jump at his beck and call. It’s how tyrants behave.
This is true.
The others, I’m not so concerned about. These are all wealthy, powerful people. If they can’t handle this they maybe they shouldn’t be in the leadership positions they are in.
You’re missing the point. These people handled the insults from Trump like adults. The issue isn’t their conduct. It’s Trump’s.
You know what I mean.
I agree – and more’s the pity.
They made the first aggressive move, withdrawing their support. As far as I can tell, Trump responds like a New Yorker. I realize lots of people don’t like the bring-a-gun-to-the-knfe-fight style.
Oh I so hope that’s all he does because I thought I read Ms BC thinks he would be an excellent Supreme Court Justice. I fear a deal may have been struck during the secret non-meetings that occurred around the time the OB@M@$ starting actively campaigning for her.
Titus, please provide some sources especially for the second sentence. I live in this country full time, in a seriously blue county in a purple state and don’t know anyone who is feeling any relief about anything. The sentiment I have heard most is something similar to “no matter who wins we’re screwed”. That’s anxiety, not relief. What is your source of information?
Quietly refusing to stand on stage with Trump is aggressive? Martinez never said at the time that she wasn’t going to support Trump. Trump escalated the matter for no reason other than his precious ego was bruised. Essentially what those incidents displayed is that Trump doesn’t have the ability to build coalitions because he’s more obsessed with being adored and worshipped.
How’s that brash, “I’m a big, bad tough-as-nails, foul-mouthed New Yorker”-style working out?
I think we both realize that you’ve got a losing argument when you have to phrase what she did like this.
How would you describe declaring WWII? The president signing a piece of paper while sitting at his desk?
We’ll see. Worst case, as badly as the genteel patrician style of his immediate predecessor.
My characterization of what happened is accurate. Trump, attacking one of the more successful and popular governors in the country, who just happens to be Hispanic and a woman, ended up further alienating Hispanics and women who may have been inclined to vote for him. It was a politically stupid thing for him to do and no doubt has cost him key votes throughout the Southwest and perhaps beyond. His attack wasn’t smart because Donald Trump isn’t smart. He’s petty and thinks of himself first before stopping to think what the consequences of his idiotic and often fabricated remarks may do to harm his own campaign. That’s why he’s losing. That’s why we will be stuck with Hillary Clinton. Trump will have only himself to blame and his lack of insight and discipline, big tough New Yorker that he is.
So let’s presume/expect the worst?
Usually a solid life plan.