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The End of Fox News?
With the news today that not only will 21st Century Fox be shelling out $20 million to Gretchen Carlson, but that Greta Van Susteren will be giving up her show immediately in favor of Brit Hume, one wonders how many days it will take for the whole of the network to implode.
What this portends for conservative media in the short- and long-term remains to be seen though it looks like this particular 20-year reign is over.
As the lurid and disgusting details come out, the question that needs to be asked: can the conservative movement, which makes all kinds of claims concerning morality and proper values, continue to support an organization that not only supported Ailes’ profligacy, but shunned those who sought to shine light on the problem.
Is this really something conservatives should remain in league with?
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You gotta put James Rosen on the A Team too….love that guy
I subscribe to a youtube channel that posts entire news shows without commercials. I like to catch Bret Baier’s excellent show while I’m folding laundry or cooking. And it’s free and ad-free.
It’s what may be a CoC violation (“Personal attacks on an individual, group, or class.”) If so, it’s one to which the Powers That Be turn a blind eye.
Did someone Flag the offending comment? If not, it is likely that the Overlords won’t even see it until or unless one of them wanders through the thread. If it is called to their attention, I do not believe they will turn a blind eye.
I personally did not Flag it because it has nothing to do with me, and unhinged attacks are no fun to refute but more fun to ignore, but Flagging is the recommended way to get the Eds involved.
Agreed, do we really need to see O’Reilly “interview” Dennis Miller anymore?
Unless they’re the ones using the term, of course.
The example she is setting is that you need more evidence than just your word when it comes to making allegations against a boss, Because most likely you will not be believed without it.
Well done. May I offer three of my favorites, along the same lines: obstreperous, recalcitrant and pusillanimous? Separately or together, they come in handy sometimes, here on Ricochet.
You go to jail for sexual harassment? Civil recourse is all that is available.
Well, I’m a professional woman who works in a male dominated field. I hate to see sexual harassment happen to any lady. But it bothers me that she allowed this to happen while she was getting what she wanted from the company.
What if her career at Fox had stayed on track? Would she have continued to be relatively silent while the other women were harassed?
She’s setting the example of going along while your career is going well, and using it to punish people when your career goes off track.
Its a problem or it isn’t (hint: it IS). Its not a problem only when your career is faltering at the offending company. And there is my problem with this whole mess – she waited to speak up until she didn’t get what she wanted out of the deal.
It depends. I am assuming (and you know what that means) that we don’t know the whole sordid story of the last 20 years at Fox News.
I like Brit very much, but he is a bit long in the tooth.
However, he knows everyone, and as last night’s show (which I watched just to see) demonstrates, he can put together a fairly impressive line-up of guests on a moment’s notice, and can deliver the goods.
And if the goods, between now and November, are a nightly rational discussion, and thorough investigation, of what is going on with the candidates, particularly Her Royal Carcass, that can only be a good thing, and more importantly, it will be a unique thing on television at the moment.
I don’t think Brit is a fan of Donald Trump, but I think he is a realist, and not stupid, either.
Greta’s fans, like Hannity’s fans, are going to vote for Trump no matter what he does.
If Brit brings some sceptics and NeverTrumpers into the fold, and can change some minds, that can only be a good thing for the Republican Presidential Candidate, right?
In the meantime, just getting some ink on the subject is helpful.
What happens after November is anyone’s guess.
In the ideal world, women wouldn’t lie about these things, people would be taken seriously when they make their truthful allegations, appropriate changes would be made.
But we live in a world where it takes 60 women to make allegations against Bill Cosby, before they start to be believed. Where Bill Clinton’s accusers are called a ‘little nutty and little slutty”, where Anita Hill is disbelieved by half the population.
This is fantastic. Thanks!
Correction, it was Anita Hill that was called a little nutty and a little slutty. Bills accusers were referred to as bimbo eruptions…
To place Bill Clinton’s accusers in the company of Anita Hill is a grave insult to Bill Clinton’s accusers.
I agree with most of your post, but I’m not sure Anita Hill is a good example. Even if you believed every word she said, I never thought it rose to the level of sexual harassment.
He asked her out – once – and then didn’t retaliate when she declined. (On the contrary, he gave her good reviews and promoted her.) He made an off-color remark – apparently once.
If a woman is such a fragile flower that she considers that to be harassment, maybe she should just take the veil.
But Anita Hill has all the professional credentials which make her honesty nearly guaranteed = Lawyer + University Professor
Not sure how talking to a subordinate about breast sizes and your favorite porn movie can be considered not sexual harassment, but isn’t this why GC might have felt it was necessary to get actual audio tape of ailes? So people couldn’t dismiss her claims as not serious? Or without merit?
Read a little Mollie Hemmingway. Much better than the HBO version of events that’s evidently impressed you.
http://thefederalist.com/2016/04/18/3-major-problems-with-confirmation-hbos-anita-hill-history-rewrite/
Well, we can do better than that, … we could go straight to the horses mouth…. http://www.speeches-usa.com/Transcripts/anita_hill-testimony.html
If the situation happened as Miss Hill describes… would you consider it to be harassment?
Anita Hill was…and is…a goddamned liar.
Why in heaven’s name would I believe the situation happened as Miss Hill describes?
You’re With Her?
Right? The same reaction that GC could have expected if she hadn’t taped Ailes and had come forward… Go look at the thread on Ricochet discussing her allegations, before others had come forward and she disclosed she had taped proof. Sexual harassment generally takes place in private places and becomes a he said/she said.
I’ll second (and third) that!!
So the fact that an individual has taped proof of sexual harassment and numerous other victims reporting the same behavior establishes that an individual who has no taped proof and no credible witnesses reporting the same behavior is telling the truth?
Umm perhaps you should read what I said…
Another reason is that there is a small cadre of Hollywood conservatives in LA area and giving them the production monies and larger soap box (but keeping them there, not in New York), will help to grow & nourish the movement there. ‘Politics downstream of culture’ – that platform & money would help.
Re-locate the New York bureau to somewhere like Chicago or Kansas City. I’m sure the respective cities would throw money at them and you’d break up that ‘cultural monopoly’ that is New York.