DNC panel actually doesn’t know whether men can have abortions?

 

The Washington Free Beacon reports:

The Atlantic and Refinery29 hosted a panel discussion entitled “Young Women Rising: America’s Next Top Voter?” during the Democratic National Convention, Tuesday evening. Following a 30-minute conversation on “intersectionality” and millennial feminism, a reporter asked the panel for its thoughts on reproductive rights and women’s health issues for men who ascribe to a female gender identity. Ayanna Pressley, a Boston city councilor at-large, said the issue of men who identify as women getting abortions is all about “elevated consciousness.”

I think by “elevated consciousness” she means “stultified intellect.”

When asked if trans women are “being denied their reproductive rights” Pressley was stumped.

“You got me on that one.”

Indeed.

Alex Wagner, a senior editor for the Atlantic who moderated the discussion, then deflected the conversation.

“Reproductive rights affect men and women, right?” she said. “Making a baby naturally takes two things. That’s just what I hear.”

Alex may have just cost herself a career. I mean, what a bigot.

I guess her defense is her qualifying sentence. She has heard others say that it takes “two things” (presumably an actual male and actual female) to make a baby. SHE doesn’t believe that, of course…she’s “just” heard that from transphobes. Nothing to do with biology. Or, better, “biology.”

Thanks @jamielockett in the comments for reminding me of this classic.

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  1. Grosseteste Thatcher
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    Tim H.:

    Kate Braestrup:Ah, I get it. We aren’t talking about actual men-men having abortions, but women who identify as men…and who, evidently, have sex with men and get pregnant by them.

    Ohhh, so that’s what this is about! I had been blissfully unaware of the definitions of some of these words and thought we were talking about actual men pretending to be women and wanting abortions.

    I think I might just have to lock myself in my house and let the craziness of the world go past. I hope I don’t have to deal with this much.

    No, the original post mentions trans women (MtF transsexuals) and men who identify as women.  It’s exactly as silly as championing Lorreta’s right to have babies in that Life of Brian clip.

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  2. Tim H. Inactive
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    Grosseteste:No, the original post mentions trans women (MtF transsexuals) and men who identify as women. It’s exactly as silly as championing Lorreta’s right to have babies in that Life of Brian clip.

    Great, so it’s precisely as stupid a concept as I first thought.  The transsexual…movement? concept? leads to such a blatant denial of objective reality that I can’t imagine the pretzel shapes they’re twisting their brains into.

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  3. Chuck Enfield Inactive
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    I always thought I was a lesbian trapped in a straight male’s body.  I considered transitioning, but then I realized it would be impractical.  If I were to have female naughty bits I’d never get out of the shower.

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  4. Joe P Member
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    Tim H.:

    Joe P:

    Nobody really believes in relativism of any sort. The people who adopt it usually do so without much logical thought because they see themselves as openminded, tolerant people. The part they often miss is that it makes moral disagreement impossible: a true relativist can only say “X is wrong for me” instead of the objective “X is wrong.”

    Your suggestion might work. I’ll have to think of topics to pick on that would make them reject relativism in at least that case and have it up my sleeve.

    I’ve also decided that nobody’s a relativist about real life. Even if she was unwilling to state that the piece of paper objectively fell and hit the floor, I bet that she looks both ways before crossing a road. That she doesn’t jump out of windows. That she balances her checkbook. All of these things could be ignored by a true relativist, but she probably believes in objective reality where it counts.

    Yes, jumping out a window is a good one. I think I used that one on Ricochet last month. “So if I jump out the window, I’ll hit the ground at 90 mph and die, if you jump out the same window, you’ll hit the ground at 5 mph and live, and if Bob jumps out the window he’ll instantly be teleported to a bus stop in Reyjiavik. Is that what you mean by true for them?”

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  5. Kozak Member
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    Mate De: Also what does he/she/ze care what her/ him/zim’s gyno thinks?

    Insurance company probably will reject a bill for a pap smear on a “man”. Just saying.

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  6. Kozak Member
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    Chuck Enfield:I always thought I was a lesbian trapped in a straight male’s body. I considered transitioning, but then I realized it would be impractical. If I were to have female naughty bits I’d never get out of the shower.

    I remember when that was a joke that Rush would say.

    Now the jokes on us.

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