The Upside of a Hillary Administration

 

In the lemons-to-lemonade spirit, Ctlaw has offered a post inviting us to ponder what might be amusing about a Trump presidency …

So I figured I’d try the same for Hillary: what would be not-so-bad or even downright good, or at least hilarious about a Hillary presidency?

For the sake of brevity, I’ll get this one out of the way: She’s not Trump and will #Never[be]Trump.

My other suggestion is simply that if Hillary is sworn in, we can stop fussing about The First Female President, and maybe? maybe? Dare I hope? take a step toward evaluating all candidates based on the content of their characters rather than the contents of their abdominal cavities.

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  1. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    Positive: We will no longer be denounced as racists by the left every time we disagree with the president.

    Negative: We will be denounced as misogynists by the left every time we disagree with the president.

    Positive: We will no longer have to listen to crackpots go on about the president being born in Kenya or being a secret Muslim.

    Negative: We will have to listen to crackpots go on about the president murdering Vince Foster.

    OK, here’s one that’s an unalloyed positive.  When Hillary Clinton gets a Nobel Peace Prize for nothing (like Obama did), just think how jealous that will make Bill.  He will still be the only Democratic president since Lyndon Johnson NOT to get a Nobel.  Even his VP got one!

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  2. Manny Coolidge
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    @Manny

    Kay Ludlow:The House might get the honor of impeaching not one, but two Clintons…

    LOL, now there is a bright side I never thought of. ;)

    But really, unfortunately, Republicans aren’t going to do that.

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  3. Manny Coolidge
    Manny
    @Manny

    Kate Braestrup:Incidentally—are there really rumors that she’s a lesbian? Real ones, or just the usual “I’ll bet she’s a dyke” stuff?

    There were rumors throughout Bill’s presidency.  Supposedly she was channeling Eleanor Roosevelt.

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  4. H. Noggin Inactive
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    I believe that only the most radical feminists will be joyous about her election. A whole lot of Democrats are not thrilled about the prospect of her presidency, but they will go through the kabuki theatre required at the inauguration. After that, it will be fun to watch them squirm.

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  5. Kate Braestrup Member
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    @GrannyDude

    iWe:

    Herbert:

    iWe:

    Kate Braestrup: Incidentally—are there really rumors that she’s a lesbian? Real ones, or just the usual “I’ll bet she’s a dyke” stuff?

    Oh, yes. She and Huma are tight. So to speak.

    There is just gossip.

    Bill apparently told at least one of his lovers, Gennifer Flowers, that Hillary was bisexual.

    That makes it more than rumor.

    I believe it is established fact that Hillary and Huma have shared a single hotel room many times.

    Ummmm….I share hotel rooms with all sorts of people. Mostly police officers. Some male. (Space is tight during COPS Week.)

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  6. Miffed White Male Member
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    @MiffedWhiteMale

    iWe:Bill apparently told at least one of his lovers, Gennifer Flowers, that Hillary was bisexual.

    That makes it more than rumor.

    I think you need to look up the definition of the word “rumor”.

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  7. Miffed White Male Member
    Miffed White Male
    @MiffedWhiteMale

    Kate Braestrup:

    I believe it is established fact that Hillary and Huma have shared a single hotel room many times.

    Ummmm….I share hotel rooms with all sorts of people. Mostly police officers. Some male. (Space is tight during COPS Week.)

    I’m guessing the resources of a First Lady, sitting US Senator, or sitting Secretary of State, as far as obtaining adequate hotel room space, exceed that of the average police officer.

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  8. Bob W Member
    Bob W
    @WBob

    Regarding the rumor, It’s not just Gennifer Flowers.

    http://www.wnd.com/2016/02/bill-clintons-ex-mistress-sleeps-with-loaded-gun/

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  9. Kate Braestrup Member
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    @GrannyDude

    Miffed White Male:

    Kate Braestrup:

    I believe it is established fact that Hillary and Huma have shared a single hotel room many times.

    Ummmm….I share hotel rooms with all sorts of people. Mostly police officers. Some male. (Space is tight during COPS Week.)

    I’m guessing the resources of a First Lady, sitting US Senator, or sitting Secretary of State, as far as obtaining adequate hotel room space, exceed that of the average police officer.

    That’s true.  On the other hand, I get lonely in hotel rooms, and prefer to have them filled with cops…

    I guess I can’t run for president—the opposition would be sure to unearth this and put a kinky spin on it.

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  10. Hoyacon Member
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    @Hoyacon

    60’s nostalgia makes yet another comeback?  Is that good?

    HRC

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  11. Herbert Member
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    Kate Braestrup:

    I guess I can’t run for president—the opposition would be sure to unearth this and put a kinky spin on it.

    nowadays the gossip might be that you practice some form of Christianity….

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  12. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Kate Braestrup: Well, and what is awful to me—since I feel strongly that black lives matter—is that the police reform and prison reform stuff is (I think) a cynical gambit by those who are willing to throw the black men, women and children who live (and die) in the inner cities under the bus rather than honestly address the issues making their lives so nasty, brutal and short.

    I hope I live to see the day when blacks figure out what Democrats and the Left (but, I repeat myself) have done to them. Is it bad how much I plan to enjoy seeing them get their richly deserved comeuppance?

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  13. Kate Braestrup Member
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    @GrannyDude

    Herbert:

    Kate Braestrup:

    I guess I can’t run for president—the opposition would be sure to unearth this and put a kinky spin on it.

    nowadays the gossip might be that you practice some form of Christianity….

    Oh dear. Ya think?

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  14. Kate Braestrup Member
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    @GrannyDude

    Western Chauvinist:

    Kate Braestrup: Well, and what is awful to me—since I feel strongly that black lives matter—is that the police reform and prison reform stuff is (I think) a cynical gambit by those who are willing to throw the black men, women and children who live (and die) in the inner cities under the bus rather than honestly address the issues making their lives so nasty, brutal and short.

    I hope I live to see the day when blacks figure out what Democrats and the Left (but, I repeat myself) have done to them. Is it bad how much I plan to enjoy seeing them get their richly deserved comeuppance?

    No, Western  Chauvinist. I know that your first impulse is to want the people to be safe and happy…and only then that the democrats be ashamed and miserable!

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  15. Kate Braestrup Member
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    @GrannyDude

    Herbert:

    Kate Braestrup:

    I guess I can’t run for president—the opposition would be sure to unearth this and put a kinky spin on it.

    nowadays the gossip might be that you practice some form of Christianity….

    I thought about this: what a funny idea, that my religion might be more shocking than my uniform fetish?

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  16. Zafar Member
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    @Zafar

    Herbert:

    iWe:

    Herbert:

    iWe:

    Kate Braestrup: Incidentally—are there really rumors that she’s a lesbian? Real ones, or just the usual “I’ll bet she’s a dyke” stuff?

    Oh, yes. She and Huma are tight. So to speak.

    There is just gossip.

    Bill apparently told at least one of his lovers, Gennifer Flowers, that Hillary was bisexual.

    That makes it more than rumor.

    I believe it is established fact that Hillary and Huma have shared a single hotel room many times.

    Oh really we are gonna listen to what Bill told a mistress in regards to his/his wifes sex life?

    So not rumour but…hearsay?

    There are plenty of things to focus on in regards to the Clintons. Their supposed sex life shouldn’t be one of them….

    On this subject the Right can’t help itself.

    Plus clicks, votes – it’s like a fat kid with cake.

    (Oh who am I kidding?!!!  I was in the ladies section of the Mosque at Mosman [yes, in drag, what, you think I got no respect?] and I heard that Hilary and Huma are totally doing it.  Huma is the man [because mustache] and Hilary has already secretly converted to Islam [that’s why the pant suits].  I also heard from a very very reliable source – okay my aunt’s friend’s hairdresser’s mother’s social worker, but she has a totes honest face – that Huma’s going to have a gaby using Nasrallahs’…)

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  17. Metalheaddoc Member
    Metalheaddoc
    @Metalheaddoc

    Kate Braestrup:

    Umbra Fractus:

    Kate Braestrup: My other suggestion is simply that if Hillary is sworn in, we can stop fussing about The First Female President, and maybe? maybe? Dare I hope? take a step toward evaluating all candidates based on the content of their characters rather than the contents of their abdominal cavities.

    We said the same thing about the First Black President in 2008. It only got worse.

    Holy Cow. You mean middle-aged white women will be rioting in the streets and burning down the drugstores within six years of her inauguration? No—but they could, in theory, get more resentful when life as a middle-class, middle-aged white woman still doesn’t seem quite perfect…?

    I would love to see a bunch of bitter screeching middle aged harpies complaining there are no good men around. Then lobby for government to pay for artificial insemination so they can go ahead and perform their liberal sacrament of taxpayer funded abortion on demand.

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  18. Kate Braestrup Member
    Kate Braestrup
    @GrannyDude

    Metalheaddoc:

    Kate Braestrup:

    Umbra Fractus:

    Kate Braestrup: My other suggestion is simply that if Hillary is sworn in, we can stop fussing about The First Female President, and maybe? maybe? Dare I hope? take a step toward evaluating all candidates based on the content of their characters rather than the contents of their abdominal cavities.

    We said the same thing about the First Black President in 2008. It only got worse.

    Holy Cow. You mean middle-aged white women will be rioting in the streets and burning down the drugstores within six years of her inauguration? No—but they could, in theory, get more resentful when life as a middle-class, middle-aged white woman still doesn’t seem quite perfect…?

    I would love to see a bunch of bitter screeching middle aged harpies complaining there are no good men around. Then lobby for government to pay for artificial insemination so they can go ahead and perform their liberal sacrament of taxpayer funded abortion on demand.

    What have you got agains bitter, screeching, middle aged harpies? i’m one myself…although, admittedly, I think there are an awful lot of good men around.

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  19. Herbert Member
    Herbert
    @Herbert

    Kate Braestrup:

    I thought about this: what a funny idea, that my religion might be more shocking than my uniform fetish.

    being a middle aged, overweigh balding guy, I can’t afford to have fetishes.   But, a uniform fetish seems reasonable to me.  Do you wear a collar with  your uniform all the time and if you don’t, can you tell a difference in the way you are treated?

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  20. Herbert Member
    Herbert
    @Herbert

    Zafar:

    (Oh who am I kidding?!!!  I was in the ladies section of the Mosque at Mosman [yes, in drag, what, you think I got no respect?] and I heard that Hilary and Huma are totally doing it. Huma is the man [because mustache] and Hilary has already secretly converted to Islam [that’s why the pant suits]. I also heard from a very very reliable source – okay my aunt’s friend’s hairdresser’s mother’s social worker, but she has a totes honest face – that Huma’s going to have a gaby using Nasrallahs’…)

    umm,  I don’t believe this accounting, else we would have had some tweets by Carlos Danger as proof….

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  21. Kate Braestrup Member
    Kate Braestrup
    @GrannyDude

    Herbert:

    Kate Braestrup:

    I thought about this: what a funny idea, that my religion might be more shocking than my uniform fetish.

    being a middle aged, overweigh balding guy, I can’t afford to have fetishes. But, a uniform fetish seems reasonable to me. Do you wear a collar with your uniform all the time and if you don’t, can you tell a difference in the way you are treated?

    No and…maybe?

    I wear a collar sometimes. The collar makes it very clear that I am a chaplain rather than a law enforcement officer (useful for some things but seriously useless for others). People usually respond to it as I intend them to–recognizing that the collar means I am there to be with them, and help them as lovingly as I can. Occasionally, someone will make it plain that the collar means more or less the opposite—that I will either be incapable of grasping that they aren’t Christian (if they are, say, Jewish, Buddhist or, indeed, atheist) or that I’m there to impose a specific religious view on them or be judgmental or obnoxious.  In those cases, the collar becomes an obstacle, so I take it off. This is pretty rare, though—people are mostly pretty accommodating and generous.

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  22. Kate Braestrup Member
    Kate Braestrup
    @GrannyDude

    BTW, for the most part, if I’m not wearing the collar it’s because they aren’t all that comfortable–they chafe your neck. On the other hand, it’s amazing how that little band of white can get you admitted into Intensive Care Units…

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  23. EJHill Podcaster
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    There are no upsides to either presidency. We (the members) are reasonable people surrounded by the unreasoning and unreasonable.

    My predictions are for the summer are thus:

    • Someone takes a shot at Trump
    • Hillary is indicted or
    • If Hillary is not indicted there are mass resignations in the FBI and Intelligence Agencies
    • There will be riots in both Cleveland and Philadelphia
    • There will be another major terrorist attack in the west
    • There will be another banking crisis in Europe and a major financial crisis in China
    • Every pundit will be wrong
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  24. Spin Inactive
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    @Spin

    Amy Schley:

    ctlaw:She could get the idea that her reelection chances are improved if she runs as a widow.

    Related: watching people not be able to say “First Gentleman” with a straight face.

    I’m just gonna call him Bill the Greek…

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  25. Miffed White Male Member
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    EJHill:There are no upsides to either presidency. We (the members) are reasonable people surrounded by the unreasoning and unreasonable.

    My predictions are for the summer are thus:

    • Someone takes a shot at Trump
    • Hillary is indicted or
    • If Hillary is not indicted there are mass resignations in the FBI and Intelligence Agencies
    • There will be riots in both Cleveland and Philadelphia
    • There will be another major terrorist attack in the west
    • There will be another banking crisis in Europe and a major financial crisis in China
    • Every pundit will be wrong

    I can’t disagree with any of these.

    Question – voter turnout in the fall – Higher than “normal”, or lower?

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  26. Hartmann von Aue Member
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    While dearly hoping that Lazy Millenial is right in comment #20, I don’t want to see a Hillary Clinton presidency as the trigger for this consummation devoutly to be wished. In fact, I don’t want to see a Scylla vs. Charybdis election in November, so start the new conservative party and/or Cruz for President write-in campaign right now. Or Vote for Gary Johnson en masse.

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  27. EJHill Podcaster
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    Miffed White Male: Question – voter turnout in the fall – Higher than “normal”, or lower?

    This I cannot predict. If any one of my list comes true it becomes a question of how does the electorate react to each? Would riots in the convention cities turn voters right or left? If either party is left scrambling for a candidate, who gets picked? If Hillary survives her legal woes would a foreign crisis help her or hurt her?

    Everything that we thought we knew about electoral politics in America seems to be inoperative at the moment. The key is a rising anger that seems to be volatile. On one side is a group of young, idealistic socialists with no clue and a taste for revenge and on the other an aging population that has been betrayed by both parties and they have an impressive arsenal and the knowledge to use it. That’s not a recipe for long term stability.

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  28. Trink Coolidge
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    @Trink

    EJHill:There are no upsides to either presidency. We (the members) are reasonable people surrounded by the unreasoning and unreasonable.

    My predictions are for the summer are thus:

    • Someone takes a shot at Trump
    • Hillary is indicted or
    • If Hillary is not indicted there are mass resignations in the FBI and Intelligence Agencies
    • There will be riots in both Cleveland and Philadelphia
    • There will be another major terrorist attack in the west
    • There will be another banking crisis in Europe and a major financial crisis in China
    • Every pundit will be wrong

    ” Time makes more converts than reason.”

    Thomas Paine.  Common Sense.

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  29. jauchter Inactive
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    Watching the fear and confusion come into her eyes when she realizes that as president, she can’t dodge hard challenges with a glassy-eyed stare into the middle distance accompanied by “The Cackle”

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  30. Paul Erickson Inactive
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    Spin:

    Amy Schley:

    ctlaw:She could get the idea that her reelection chances are improved if she runs as a widow.

    Related: watching people not be able to say “First Gentleman” with a straight face.

    I’m just gonna call him Bill the Greek…

    Aren’t past presidents still addressed as “Mr. President?”  Would they “Mr. and Mrs. President?”  Or “Mrs. and Mr.” since she would be the incumbent?

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