New Hampshire Results: What to Watch For This Evening

 

shutterstock_370485401Here’s an abbreviated version of my earlier argument about how the New Hampshire primary will be spun and what to look for to keep up with the media mavens manipulating the message.

Most eyes will be on Rubio, who won the post-Iowa spin but stumbled during Saturday’s debate (which reminds me of Cruz’s stumbles immediately preceding Iowa, which should provide hope for Rubio supporters). This is fair, because this is Rubio’s moment to overperform.

Where are Trump’s numbers? If he underperforms the polls as he did in Iowa, look for some “trouble ahead” stories.

Who’s third place? Hard as it is to understand at first glance, Rubio needs Cruz to come in third so the race narrows after New Hampshire. Rubio has some structural advantages after Super Tuesday and, therefore, needs to eliminate Christie, Kasich, and Bush before South Carolina.

Does Rubio overperform? The most recent RCP average has Rubio in second with 14 percent: if he hits 20 when the votes are actually counted, #Marcomentum is for real. If he can’t get more than a point or two ahead of his nearest rival (especially if it’s Cruz) he’ll have a hard time with the spin.

Good luck to all of the candidates this evening!

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  1. Frank Soto Member
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    iWe:Actually, the primary process is probably our ally against Trump. Trump may lead all national polls by a lot, but the Ground Game matters in primaries – and he does not have one.

    So by the time it becomes more national, Trump should be deflated.

    He seems to have a vote ceiling that insures he’ll fade once the field is winnowed to 2 candidates besides himself.

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  2. BThompson Inactive
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    He has plenty of time to develop a ground game if it becomes obvious that is what is hurting him.

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  3. Frank Soto Member
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    My prediction:

    Trump: 26%

    Rubio 17%

    Kasich 16%

    Cruz 14%

    Bush 12%

    Christie 8%

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  4. Austin Murrey Inactive
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    Frank Soto:My prediction:

    Trump: 26%

    Rubio 17%

    Kasich 16%

    Cruz 14%

    Bush 12%

    Christie 8%

    One can hope.

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  5. iWe Coolidge
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    Frank Soto:

    iWe:So by the time it becomes more national, Trump should be deflated.

    He seems to have a vote ceiling that insures he’ll fade once the field is winnowed to 2 candidates besides himself.

    That is certainly my hope!

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  6. HeartofAmerica Inactive
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    Austin Murrey:God help us if Kasich beats Rubio.

    Heard someone interviewed early this morning talking about how she changed her vote once she got into the booth. She dropped Kasich in favor of Bush. Not much difference in my book.

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  7. Frank Soto Member
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    HeartofAmerica:

    Austin Murrey:God help us if Kasich beats Rubio.

    Heard someone interviewed early this morning talking about how she changed her vote once she got into the booth. She dropped Kasich in favor of Bush. Not much difference in my book.

    It would be better if Kasich passed Rubio than Bush.  Kasich has no money left and no infrastructure moving forward.  He also has no states he can win after NH until mid March.

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  8. Austin Murrey Inactive
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    Frank Soto: It would be better if Kasich passed Rubio than Bush. Kasich has no money left and no infrastructure moving forward. He also has no states he can win after NH until mid March.

    But what happens if donors and Bush loyalists angered by Marco’s “betrayal” decide to transfer Bush’s infrastructure to Kasich?

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  9. Frank Soto Member
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    Austin Murrey:

    Frank Soto: It would be better if Kasich passed Rubio than Bush. Kasich has no money left and no infrastructure moving forward. He also has no states he can win after NH until mid March.

    But what happens if donors and Bush loyalists angered by Marco’s “betrayal” decide to transfer Bush’s infrastructure to Kasich?

    I jump off a bridge.

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  10. Quinn the Eskimo Member
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    Austin Murrey: But what happens if donors and Bush loyalists angered by Marco’s “betrayal” decide to transfer Bush’s infrastructure to Kasich?

    I need a bucket.

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  11. Mike H Inactive
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    Austin Murrey:

    Frank Soto: It would be better if Kasich passed Rubio than Bush. Kasich has no money left and no infrastructure moving forward. He also has no states he can win after NH until mid March.

    But what happens if donors and Bush loyalists angered by Marco’s “betrayal” decide to transfer Bush’s infrastructure to Kasich?

    He becomes the next president.

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  12. Austin Murrey Inactive
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    Mike H:

    Austin Murrey:

    Frank Soto: It would be better if Kasich passed Rubio than Bush. Kasich has no money left and no infrastructure moving forward. He also has no states he can win after NH until mid March.

    But what happens if donors and Bush loyalists angered by Marco’s “betrayal” decide to transfer Bush’s infrastructure to Kasich?

    He becomes the next president.

    Kasich or Rubio?

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  13. Mike H Inactive
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    Austin Murrey:

    Mike H:

    Austin Murrey:

    Frank Soto: It would be better if Kasich passed Rubio than Bush. Kasich has no money left and no infrastructure moving forward. He also has no states he can win after NH until mid March.

    But what happens if donors and Bush loyalists angered by Marco’s “betrayal” decide to transfer Bush’s infrastructure to Kasich?

    He becomes the next president.

    Kasich or Rubio?

    Kasich, he would win the general in a walk. It would also probably ensure we were stuck with Obamacare which makes me weep, but I’m pretty sure most of Obamacare is more or less here to stay no matter what happens.

    I don’t know how we “repeal and replace” with the Obamacare infrastructure already in place. I think something like buying off the poor by giving them cash to buy plans would be the only way to get away with it.

    In my ideal world, you get rid of it, make it completely free market, and I take guilty pleasure in watching everyone scramble… as of now I haven’t even heard of a thought out plan of what to replace it with. I’m afraid with a Republican President we’ll find that Congress suddenly hesitates in repealing it now that it should theoretically pass.

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  14. BThompson Inactive
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    The media would do there best to make Kasich seem like the most evil right wing loon imaginable. His natural abrasiveness and unlikability would help them tremendously. Kasich is an obnoxious jerk. He will not wear well in the spotlight of the general.

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  15. Austin Murrey Inactive
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    BThompson:

    The media would do there best to make Kasich seem like the most evil right wing loon imaginable. His natural abrasiveness and unlikability would help them tremendously. Kasich is an obnoxious jerk. He will not wear well in the spotlight of the general.

    We’d also hear an awful lot about his dangerous brand of mixing religion and government. I’m not even convinced he could win reelection in Ohio in a competitive year.

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  16. Mike H Inactive
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    Austin Murrey:

    BThompson:

    The media would do there best to make Kasich seem like the most evil right wing loon imaginable. His natural abrasiveness and unlikability would help them tremendously. Kasich is an obnoxious jerk. He will not wear well in the spotlight of the general.

    We’d also hear an awful lot about his dangerous brand of mixing religion and government. I’m not even convinced he could win reelection in Ohio in a competitive year.

    Moderate democrats like him. Many prefer him to Hilary. He’s younger than both Democrats and will look good compared to them. He’d be a true moderate and that’s what the median voter really wants.

    It’s terrible, but I’m pretty sure it’s true.

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  17. pensworth Inactive
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    I hope Rubio doesn’t have a terrible night.

    Still on the debate, I suspect these high-priced Presidential campaign consultants get stuck in a one-track mode of thinking-stay on message, pivot to a general election message, ignore attacks etc. I saw that with Romney’s choice to ignore attacks on his reputation all through the summer of 2012 and his refusal to go on offense in a pointed way against Obama; I remember McCain’s refusal to bring up Rev Wright and even Ryan’s choice to stay ‘positive’ in his debate against Biden. This faux-high-mindedness can be costly. It’s almost like they confuse a lack of imagination or adaptability for discipline.

    I suspect the same dynamic is at play in the Rubio Campaign. He could have said:
    Hey Gov Christie, leadership isn’t throwing your party’s nominee under the bus when you were most needed because you weren’t picked as VP; it’s not hugging Obama to win re-election; it is not crying because Obama gave you a ride on his plane and let you talk to Bruce Springsteen on the phone; it’s not bullying and yelling at teacher’s and citizens of your state who disagree with you, while your staff put in on YouTube. I am sure that’s not how the American people define leadership. Now, here’s what I did in Florida and here’s what I plan to do for the American people…

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