Behind Closed Doors, Media and Government Buzzing about Hillary’s Emails

 

Morning-JoeConservatives often complain about media bias. While it’s true that the press often skews the news of the day to promote their own ideology, a far more damaging practice is when they decide not to report the news in the first place. On Monday’s “Morning Joe,” the panel finally pulled back the curtain on what is being discussed in newsrooms across the country.

While analyzing the Democratic primary, panelist Mike Barnicle said, “There’s an undefined element in the campaign that will impact the campaign sooner or later and that’s what’s going to happen in the Justice Department. I mean, you can just sense among Democrats … they’re right on the edge of their seats trying to figure out what will happen and what determining factor that’s going to play in the nomination process.”

The Justice Department? Whatever could he be referring to?

Mark Halperin of Bloomberg Politics agreed, saying that even if Bernie Sanders loses the Iowa caucus he “can go forward with lots of money, with debates on the schedule and see are there are developments in the legal front that allow him to start to win even after tonight if he doesn’t win.”

The legal front? Wait — is he referring to Hillary Clinton’s email scandal? But we’ve been assured by Democratic flacks that Hillary has little to worry about.

That’s when host Joe Scarborough let in the audience on the conversation among elites. “A couple people held their breath when we talked about it the other day,” he said. “Everybody in the government, everybody in the media, everybody that runs anything is talking about how advanced this investigation is. And nobody’s telling the American people about it. So I had an executive at another network ask ‘is it safe to talk about it now?’”

Barnicle agreed, saying, “There’s just too much buzz around it from all different levels of government, media, and everything to ignore it, and Bernie is no longer ignoring it.”

You can watch the video here.

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  1. Red Fish, Blue Fish Inactive
    Red Fish, Blue Fish
    @RedFishBlueFish

    Judge Mental:I’m not talking about email. The email scandal grew out of Benghazi. If Hillary is going down for something to do with Benghazi, she might just start talking about Benghazi. Remember the 10pm phone call from Obama to Hillary? What did he say in that call, and how can she spin it against him? It doesn’t matter what is true. Hillary is vindictive, and I can totally see her torpedoing him out of spite if nothing else. But it’s more effective as a threat against him.

    Plus, who knows what else she could say? Being a liar comes in handy in these situations.

    If Obama allows the indictment to go forward, he will be immune from pretty much anything she has on him short of the classic dead girl, live boy scenario.  It won’t gain traction against him.

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  2. Eric Hines Inactive
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    @EricHines

    BrentB67:Quesiton for Ricochet: Is this scandal considered ‘part of the administration’? My opinion is that the Clinton’s are an entity unto themselves and that there isn’t much love lost between team Obama and the Clintons.

    Do we think it possible that Hillary gets thrown under the jail and the media does its duty to ensure not so much as a speck of dust on the Obama administration?

    It may cost dems the White House, but that can be a price to pay preserving the legacy of The One.

    My own answer is that Clinton won’t be thrown under the jail.  Obama has already internalized into his administration her role in preserving his legacy.  He won’t allow a prosecution.  Lynch is his girl; she won’t indict.  Comey is his boy; he won’t recommend indictment.

    This will have to wait until after January and we have a new AG and a new FBI Director.

    Eric Hines

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  3. Judge Mental Member
    Judge Mental
    @JudgeMental

    Red Fish, Blue Fish:

    Judge Mental:I’m not talking about email. The email scandal grew out of Benghazi. If Hillary is going down for something to do with Benghazi, she might just start talking about Benghazi. Remember the 10pm phone call from Obama to Hillary? What did he say in that call, and how can she spin it against him? It doesn’t matter what is true. Hillary is vindictive, and I can totally see her torpedoing him out of spite if nothing else. But it’s more effective as a threat against him.

    Plus, who knows what else she could say? Being a liar comes in handy in these situations.

    If Obama allows the indictment to go forward, he will be immune from pretty much anything she has on him short of the classic dead girl, live boy scenario. It won’t gain traction against him.

    A live boy would probably help him.

    I’m thinking more along the lines of, “he called and told me that we weren’t going to send any reinforcements because it would destroy his election meme about Al Qaeda being on the run.  I argued against it, of course, but he wanted to go to bed to be fresh for his fund raiser the next day and wouldn’t listen.”  It won’t bring him down; you’re right, nothing will.  But it will tarnish his legacy severely.

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  4. Yudansha Member
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    @Yudansha

    Unlike Republicans, the Democrats NEVER EVER allow one another to go down if it can be helped.  Especially when there is a 6-year employer/employee relationship to consider.

    If anyone thinks Hillary will suffer so much as a sleepless night over this email scandal, they’re dead wrong.

    Everyone and I mean everyone knows that once you reach a certain level in government, you suffer no consequences for anything, ever; no matter how egregious.  Hell, Sen Kennedy sat in the Senate for almost half a century  after he killed Mary Jo Kopechne.  No one even disputed that he was solely responsible for her death. No matter; he was one of the ruling class.

    Same with Hillary.  The only difference is her victims died in Libya rather than Dike Bridge — which is hardly worth mentioning.

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  5. James Gawron Inactive
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    @JamesGawron

    Jon,

    The current released State e-mails are more than adequate to indict. The Top Secret rated e-mails clinch the deal. There are the additional 30,000 yoga e-mails recovered from the server that the FBI hasn’t revealed yet. There is the correlation with the Clinton Cash donations to the Clinton Global Initiative which has not been revealed yet.

    Simple Scenario: The FBI recommends indictment on multiple counts. The full recommendation leaks.

    If The Justice Dept then doesn’t indict, both Obama and HRC must make the case that the FBI, the New York Times, MSNBC..etc. are all part of the vast right-wing conspiracy to get HRC. I don’t think at that point Obama will want to go down with her. Either way, they won’t be able to sell this and she will be forced to withdraw.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  6. Ryan M Inactive
    Ryan M
    @RyanM

    BrentB67:Quesiton for Ricochet: Is this scandal considered ‘part of the administration’? My opinion is that the Clinton’s are an entity unto themselves and that there isn’t much love lost between team Obama and the Clintons.

    Do we think it possible that Hillary gets thrown under the jail and the media does its duty to ensure not so much as a speck of dust on the Obama administration?

    It may cost dems the White House, but that can be a price to pay preserving the legacy of The One.

    I think you can consider Hillary/Obama/Media all pretty much a part of the same team.  Love lost or no love lost, they’re all “the administration.”  They don’t ever need to throw one of their own under the bus.  Obama can talk about “the party of no,” Hillary can talk about vendettas and “war on women,” and the media now has Bill’s bestie Mr. Trump to focus on as the world’s most convenient distraction, and at any time, they can turn like a pack of hounds and start talking about how racist republicans are, with countless Trump soundbites to play on loop until everyone forgets about Hillary.

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  7. Pilli Inactive
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    @Pilli

    The Dept. of State just asked the courts for a 1 month extension to the release of 3000/4000 more e-mails because…snow.  That puts the release just before Super Tuesday.  Interesting!   Do you think we have a bunch of Bernie lovers at State?

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  8. rico Inactive
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    @rico

    BrentB67:Quesiton for Ricochet: Is this scandal considered ‘part of the administration’? My opinion is that the Clinton’s are an entity unto themselves and that there isn’t much love lost between team Obama and the Clintons.

    Do we think it possible that Hillary gets thrown under the jail and the media does its duty to ensure not so much as a speck of dust on the Obama administration?

    It may cost dems the White House, but that can be a price to pay preserving the legacy of The One.

    Now that evidence of HRC’s crimes is out in the open, there is no way that this problem can be finessed. The State Department has already revealed itself to be an accessory to crime. The Obama legacy is already imperiled.

    Obama has reached the fork in the road. Full cover-up is a very dangerous option. Indictment guarantees that Clinton Syndicate will be compelled to shift as much blame as possible to the Obama crew.

    We are on the threshold of a massive implosion of both the Clinton and Obama legacies. The thought that the Acela corridor media might be drawn into the vortex is too glorious for me to fathom.

    Granted, we may not be living in that world.

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  9. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
    Fake John/Jane Galt
    @FakeJohnJaneGalt

    BrentB67: FBI can’t sweep this under the rug and I don’t think Obama wants his last great act to be ignoring a crime so obvious. Think back to Bill Clinton and the Mark Rich pardon this is that level of scandal raised to the 10th power.

    Sure they can.  All they have to do is take down some high level aides and leave HRC along claiming she had no knowledge of the issue.  The aides will confess and take the blame because it is in their best interest to do so.  HRC skates on to be the next POTUS and pardons the aides so there will be no jail time, (it is possible that Obama will do the pardon on the way out).  All the aides will end up with jobs either in the HRC administration or the Clinton Foundation.   Anybody thinking that HRC is going to do jail time or leave the Presidential election will be disappointed.

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  10. Yudansha Member
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    @Yudansha

    rico:Now that evidence of HRC’s crimes is out in the open, there is no way that this problem can be finessed. The State Department has already revealed itself to be an accessory to crime. The Obama legacy is already imperiled…

    …We are on the threshold of a massive implosion of both the Clinton and Obama legacies. The thought that the Acela corridor media might be drawn into the vortex is too glorious for me to fathom.

    Granted, we may not be living in that world.

    Pure, unadulterated fantasy.  We aren’t going to witness anything.  Hillary will get away scott-free.  I very much doubt if even Huma or Blumenthal will have to face the music.

    We most certainly are not living in that world.  Laws are for the little people, don’cha know.

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  11. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
    Fake John/Jane Galt
    @FakeJohnJaneGalt

    Yudansha:

    rico:Now that evidence of HRC’s crimes is out in the open, there is no way that this problem can be finessed. The State Department has already revealed itself to be an accessory to crime. The Obama legacy is already imperiled…

    …We are on the threshold of a massive implosion of both the Clinton and Obama legacies. The thought that the Acela corridor media might be drawn into the vortex is too glorious for me to fathom.

    Granted, we may not be living in that world.

    Pure, unadulterated fantasy. We aren’t going to witness anything. Hillary will get away scott-free. I very much doubt if even Huma or Blumenthal will have to face the music.

    We most certainly are not living in that world. Laws are for the little people, don’cha know.

    Not Scott free.  There will be some fines.  This will show it was investigated and an appropriate punishment was given but the offense was so small it is not worth talking about, not even sure why everybody is bothered about it.  Just a misdemeanor type thing.

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  12. Carol Member
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    livingthehighlife:.

    Last year I developed the theory that Valerie Jarrett, with Obama’s approval, was playing rope-a-dope with Hillary and at just the right moment (last November was my prediction) Valerie would turn the dogs loose.

    Obviously that didn’t come to pass, but I just can’t believe Obama, and especially the two ladies in his life, will allow his legacy to be sullied by Clinton. I just can’t help but think at some point he will turn the dogs loose, or at least refuse to bail her out.

    In my view, her actions are separate from the administration. Hillary made the decision to violate the law, she instructed her minions to remove classification notes, this is all on her.

    Obama claimed that he only knew of her private a mail arrangement from hearing it on the news. But, the latest e mail dump contains 18 emails that they exchanged. I believe that makes him complicit.

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  13. Sash Member
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    @Sash

    Is it at all possible the FBI could arrest her?  They can’t indict, but most crimes have an arrest first then a grand jury, right?  Why would the FBI wait until there is a grand jury to arrest her?  Isn’t that an indication that the FBI is actually very politicized?

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  14. Yudansha Member
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    @Yudansha

    Sash:Is it at all possible the FBI could arrest her? They can’t indict, but most crimes have an arrest first then a grand jury, right? Why would the FBI wait until there is a grand jury to arrest her? Isn’t that an indication that the FBI is actually very politicized?

    It’s pretty standard for them to allow you to turn yourself in.  There won’t be any video of Hillary doing the perp-walk.

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  15. Sash Member
    Sash
    @Sash

    But the FBI wouldn’t need a grand jury to issue an arrest warrant right?  If they feel very strongly wouldn’t that be the thing to do?  That way it is clear that it is DOJ that is preventing the trial.

    The FBI can just say they support a jury of her peers making the final judgement.

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  16. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
    Fake John/Jane Galt
    @FakeJohnJaneGalt

    Yudansha:

    Sash:Is it at all possible the FBI could arrest her? They can’t indict, but most crimes have an arrest first then a grand jury, right? Why would the FBI wait until there is a grand jury to arrest her? Isn’t that an indication that the FBI is actually very politicized?

    It’s pretty standard for them to allow you to turn yourself in. There won’t be any video of Hillary doing the perp-walk.

    In a case like this it will be up to the prosecutor to decide if, who, when and how to arrest.  It is usually done according to what is the best for the prosecutor’s political career.  I have seen people that had walk in agreements be subject to no knocks and perp walked live on the evening news because the prosecutor wanted to make a splash and give his career a bump.  I doubt that will happen in this case.  Most likely they will treat her with the uttermost respect before letting her go.

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  17. civil westman Inactive
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    @user_646399

    Judge Andrew Napolitano has some clear and interesting observations. With merely what is already public, it is clear in his mind that the is guilty of multiple felonies; that if her last name were’t Clinton, she would have been indicted months ago. Nothing less is at stake, says the judge, than the rule of law: “What remains of the rule of law in America? The FBI will soon tell us.” That is precisely right.

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  18. Yudansha Member
    Yudansha
    @Yudansha

    Fake John/Jane Galt:

    Yudansha:

    rico:Now that evidence of HRC’s crimes is out in the open, there is no way that this problem can be finessed. The State Department has already revealed itself to be an accessory to crime. The Obama legacy is already imperiled…

    …We are on the threshold of a massive implosion of both the Clinton and Obama legacies. The thought that the Acela corridor media might be drawn into the vortex is too glorious for me to fathom.

    Granted, we may not be living in that world.

    Pure, unadulterated fantasy. We aren’t going to witness anything. Hillary will get away scott-free. I very much doubt if even Huma or Blumenthal will have to face the music.

    We most certainly are not living in that world. Laws are for the little people, don’cha know.

    Not Scott free. There will be some fines. This will show it was investigated and an appropriate punishment was given but the offense was so small it is not worth talking about, not even sure why everybody is bothered about it. Just a misdemeanor type thing.

    Dreamer.

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  19. livingthehighlife Inactive
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    @livingthehighlife

    Carol:

    livingthehighlife:.

    In my view, her actions are separate from the administration. Hillary made the decision to violate the law, she instructed her minions to remove classification notes, this is all on her.

    Obama claimed that he only knew of her private a mail arrangement from hearing it on the news. But, the latest e mail dump contains 18 emails that they exchanged. I believe that makes him complicit.

    I can’t believe I’m about to say this, but I don’t believe he’s complicit.  Think about the emails you receive; 99% of the time the person’s name is displayed.  It’s entirely possible, and probable, that in Obama’s inbox it says “Hillary Clinton”, “Clinton, Hillary” or some variation thereof.

    Now, excuse me while I go shower.

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  20. Mark Coolidge
    Mark
    @GumbyMark

    Sash:But the FBI wouldn’t need a grand jury to issue an arrest warrant right? If they feel very strongly wouldn’t that be the thing to do? That way it is clear that it is DOJ that is preventing the trial.

    The FBI can just say they support a jury of her peers making the final judgement.

    The FBI would need to make a recommendation to DOJ that it convene a grand jury based on the evidence it has uncovered.  DOJ would then have responsibility to present the evidence and obtain an indictment.

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  21. Eric Hines Inactive
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    livingthehighlife: I can’t believe I’m about to say this, but I don’t believe he’s complicit. Think about the emails you receive; 99% of the time the person’s name is displayed. It’s entirely possible, and probable, that in Obama’s inbox it says “Hillary Clinton”

    You may be right on Obama’s explicit complicity, but I don’t buy that out of a better policy wonk than his policy wonks.

    More to the point, I’ve spent too much time in classified environments as a defense contractor; all of my emails displayed the email address as well as the names of the Originator and all Addressees.  That’s the way I had my emailer set up.

    Eric Hines

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  22. CuriousKevmo Inactive
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    @CuriousKevmo

    civil westman: Judge Andrew Napolitano has some clear and interesting observations. With merely what is already public, it is clear in his mind that the is guilty of multiple felonies; that if her last name were’t Clinton, she would have been indicted months ago. Nothing less is at stake, says the judge, than the rule of law: “What remains of the rule of law in America? The FBI will soon tell us.” That is precisely right.

    I am in no way an expert, but I just don’t see it.  This may be right in the abstract but what does it really mean?  Millions of people ignoring the law? Not likely.  I’m pretty sure it doesn’t work the same way for me.

    Politicians ignoring the law?  How is that any different than where we are now?

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  23. Steve C. Member
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    @user_531302

    If it’s as serious as we’ve been led to believe, she’s going to be told that her only choice is to quit campaigning for health reasons. Or, more likely, lower level aides will be sacrificed for the greater good. Regardless, she will not be on the platform next January.

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