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Ricochet News Flash: Hillary’s Chances of Being Indicted
Rob, James and I just finished recording this week’s flagship Ricochet Podcast. One of our guests was the great Richard Epstein. Get a load of this exchange:
James Lileks: What’s the chance Hillary will be indicted?
Richard Epstein: Thirty percent.
Wow. One of the country’s leading legal scholars believes there’s a one-in-three chance that the Democratic Party’s presumed nominee for President will become the subject of a criminal indictment.
As I say, wow.
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You mean her 2016 campaign, right? I think she’ll be fine for 2020.
This is because the political class are criminals and the parties are the equivalent to criminal gangs.
Oh, like Democrat voters would care about a thing like that.
I doubt it. She is a Democrat and the Democratic voters view this whole thing as not exactly illegal but as the GOP persecuting her, vast right wing conspiracy, war on women and such things. If she spins it right she can convince the voters that this whole thing is proof that the establishment is afraid of her and thus she is the outsider that needs to be elected.
Probably right. If you think the attempts to make Hillary seem like your Grandma are awful, wait until you see the strategy of convincing you she’s just like your great grandma.
Frank,
Works for me.
Regards,
Jim
While she technically broke “the law”, Dude, that was like two years ago! At this point, what difference does it make?
True, the spin will be piled ten feet high, but I think it would be more successful on the damning evidence in the absence of an indictment. The FBI Director and the female AG are both Democratic appointments, so it’s hard to spin an indictment as a right-wing conspiracy.
My best guess is that Comey recommends prosecution, Lynch doesn’t act, the intelligence agencies go bananas, and she spins her way out of that.
Her offenses are an order of magnitude worse than that of Gen Petraeus, who shared classified information with his biographer/mistress. He faces retroactive demotion from a Secretary of Defense who has a slinky for a spine, while Hillary has only a 30% chance of being indicted? Had I done something like that when I was in uniform, I’d still be under the jail.
Mark Steyn writes, “In his [Petraeus’] shoes, I’d rip off the three remaining stars, hurl them in Ash Carter’s face, and demote myself to private.” He’s right.
My guess for the conspiracy minded.
The report is done, and they are waiting for New Hampshire to close. If she blows both the first two States, they then recommend prosecution.
This extraordinary circumstance, forces the Democrats to allow some last minute rule changes, and then Biden or Kerry gets to make an emergency run.
If she eakes out a victory in either state she gets to go on and they indict Kennedy from her staff. But if she blows the first two races…
The fix is in for Bernie.
The Democrats are a Criminal Enterprise pretending to be a political policy. They would have indited a Republican by now. They will never eat one of their own.
I thought the threshold was negligence. I thought negligence doesn’t require intent… I could be wrong.
It’s terrible that she has to campaign with this hanging over her, so why doesn’t Obama just offer her a blanket pardon?
There is no smoking gun, in her hand, while on film, witness by Christ and etched in stone. If you don’t have that level of proof then you are a partisan hack and you are just making stuff up because you hate HRC for being the first womyn POTUS. And if you do have proof of that level then you better not have any indiscretions in your past because they will be found and used against you and your family.
Maybe I’ve seen The Force Awakens too many times, but when I read that scenario, I couldn’t help picturing Biden as Kylo Ren, and Obama as the melted remains of Darth Vader’s helmet. Kinda works, actually.
To all,
One small detail. All of this is on the emails that were given up by the State Dept itself. The FBI has the server with those 30,000 yoga emails on it.
Also, she is indictable just for having the private server & the classified emails. The FBI just expanded the investigation to Clinton Cash. If the book is only halfway right there is a pattern of contributions that match favorable State Dept. decisions that is as clear as day.
We shall see.
Regards,
Jim
If we were playing under Queensbury rules we would be much closer to 100%. The Fibbies have, from what I’ve read, over 100 agents involved in the investigation, which has spread from the original national security issues to public corruption. Hard to believe they would commit that many resources if there weren’t signs of a heck of a fire at the base of all that smoke. But we aren’t playing under Queensbury rules, so the odds probably are between 30% and 50%. But if not, then the leaks start, including the leak of the FBI recommendation to prosecute and that probably tanks her campaign as effectively as an indictment.
If that wasn’t who she was, it would be 100%—see Petraeus. Which tells us we’re 70% corrupt, I suppose.
Nixon was a piker next to Obama and Clinton. But that was back when the country had principles.
Would Nixon have resigned/been hounded out of office if he were a Democrat?
This is probably why they have so many resources on it. A competent White House would have Biden or another ringer in the race by now, unless they had complete control of the FBI, which I don’t think they do. They probably could have stopped an investigation from happening, but I don’t think they will be able to stop this. The Obama Administration, the corruption of Nixon with the incompetence of Carter. And as a follow-up the Dems want to anoint a woman who is so corrupt she makes Nixon look like a boy scout.
Great minds . . . .
Don’t Forget the Menendez exception – piss of Obama, and suddenly look for your indictment. I am the last to suggest a New Jersey Democratic Senator isn’t likely to be thoroughly corrupt, but I don’t believe for a second that he would have been indicted if he hadn’t opposed the Iran deal. I suspect Obama hates Bill and Hillary Clinton worse than he hates Menendez.
I have little faith in the Obama justice department to do the right thing but with all the leaks and evidence of obvious wrongdoing I cannot imagine the FBI NOT recommending a prosecution and not stating that their work has led them to believe she broke the rules and the law……as far as i am concerned it matters not whether or not she is indicted,once the FBI makes their finding public which will happen then the ballgame is over…you cannot run for president with the FBI suggesting you broke the law regarding classified info that may have undermined the safety of the nation!
Anyone that thinks HRC will be indicted for anything is living in Wishful Thinking World.
Great. She can stroll from inauguration at the Capitol to arraignment in court. Only a Clinton can give an inaugural address in the morning and enter a not guilty plea in the afternoon.
Dang it, Peter . . . I love Richard Epstein, but it really is a 50-50 situation. They (Justice Dept.) will either indict, or not indict. Rush firmly believes they will not, but I disagree. I think there is a strong possibility they will indict, and Hillary will be put under pressure by Obama to drop her candidacy for a Nixonian “pardon in advance”.
As I said in a previous post, the Biden/Warren ticket is waiting in the wings . . .
Much like Caesar running for Pontifex Maximus, or the Grachii, Marius, or Sulla running for Consul -she will either return from the election as a President, or she will not return.
Do you think it is possible all of those people and assets are committed to the project so the justice department can say “Look, we committed 100’s of agents to diligently look at every possible email and aspect of the case and we came up clean…..”
Or this:
Don’t think so. There are numerous leaks saying that the FBI is going to have a mutiny on their hands if she gets off clean. The agents appear to be as outraged as Dave Carter in comment #39. They know they would have the book thrown at them if they had done these things.
If there is no indictment, I think we could expect such a flood of leaked information Hillary would be permanently damaged.