Trump Blames 9/11 on Bush

 

2D7AFFC500000578-3276186-_I_M_MUCH_MORE_COMPETENT_Trump_said_of_Presdient_Geroge_W_Bush_t-a-8_1445013286476Bloomberg Television interviewed Donald Trump today and he had tough words for Osama bin Laden Mohammed Atta Al Qaeda George W. Bush.

Anchor Stephanie Ruhle asked The Donald if voters could trust him to keep America safe and if he would provide the “comforter-in-chief” role as Bush did after 9/11 and Obama after the Sandy Hook shooting. I’ll let the Daily Mail take it from here:

“OK, I think I have a bigger heart than all of them,” he said. “I think I’m much more competent than all of them.”

“When you talk about George Bush – I mean, say what you want, the World Trade Center came down during his time.”

Ruhle jumped in, saying, “Hold on! You can’t blame George Bush for that.”

“He was president, okay?” Trump responded. “Blame him or don’t blame him, but he was president. The World Trade Center came down during his reign.”

First, American presidents don’t “reign” and it’s alarming that a presidential frontrunner believes they do. Second, can we leave the “blame America first” nonsense to the Democrats? We don’t need two parties running down the country.

Oh, but he wasn’t done…

“If you look at Sandy Hook, those people are still begging for help. It’s a disaster, and it’s a disaster all over the place.”

“Government has proven to be a disaster during the Obama administration,” Trump pivoted. ‘What we need is a leader, we don’t have a leader.”

Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, CT was the site of a horrific mass shooting. Hurricane Sandy was a large storm that struck the east coast. The two are unrelated — except in The Donald’s mind.

Dear fellow Republicans: The Trump circus continues only as long as you let it.

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  1. Max Ledoux Coolidge
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    *headdesk*

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  2. Lazy_Millennial Inactive
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    With the top-level politicians, it’s never their critics who bring them down, it’s themselves.  It’s the unforced errors, not the unpopular policies, that do them in. See: Nixon, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton.  I’m not gonna jump the gun and this is it for Trump, but when he goes down, it will be something like this.

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  3. mezzrow Member
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    (facepalm)

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  4. Austin Murrey Inactive
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    Watch Trump’s polls mysteriously inflate as the 9/11 truthers start artificially bombarding online polls for him.

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  5. Klaatu Inactive
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    The man literally has no shame.  For the first time in my life I am embarrassed to be a conservative Republican because of the possibility of being associated with this man.

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  6. livingthehighlife Inactive
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    It only makes sense he’d say this about Bush.  After all, McCain is a loser because he was captured and tortured.

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  7. Larry Koler Inactive
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    Well, Trump blamed Bush for being president when 9/11 happened — that much is clearly in the transcript. He didn’t say that it was a controlled demolition AND done by the government — so we have that much to be thankful for.

    If there are presidential actions or lack of actions to blame in this it is clearly Clinton’s fault more than Bush’s — that’s a slam dunk and it is surely how the history books will show it in a few years. How easy it is to see that if one looks at the record.

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  8. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    So I guess if we elect a competent leader like Donald Trump, we practically have a guarantee that there won’t be any disasters while he is in office.  That’s some heck of a campaign promise.

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  9. Roberto Inactive
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    Randy Weivoda:So I guess if we elect a competent leader like Donald Trump, we practically have a guarantee that there won’t be any disasters while he is in office. That’s some heck of a campaign promise.

    Consistent though. That has essentially been his campaign theme for awhile now.

    “We are led by very, very stupid people,” Trump, the GOP front-runner weighed in, at a midday rally on Capitol Hill. He called the deal “incompetent” and poised to fail in the fight against Islamic militants. “We will have so much winning if I get elected, that you may get bored with winning.”

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  10. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    Come to think of it, our current president promised to stop the rise of the oceans and I believe he has succeeded.

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  11. Johnny Dubya Inactive
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    Roberto:

    “We are led by very, very stupid people,” Trump, the GOP front-runner weighed in, at a midday rally on Capitol Hill. He called the deal “incompetent” and poised to fail in the fight against Islamic militants. “We will have so much winning if I get elected, that you may get bored with winning.”

    “Very, very stupid people.”  For those keeping score, that’s one “very” stupider than “very stupid.”  Says the person who conflates the site of a school shooting with a cyclonic storm.

    Is that #Winning in the Charlie Sheen sense of the word?  And is that a clue that Charlie might be Donald’s running mate?  Because, in that case, I might have to reconsider my opposition to Trump.

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  12. Fake John Galt Coolidge
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    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: First, American presidents don’t “reign” and it’s alarming that a presidential frontrunner believes they do. Second, can we leave the “blame America first” nonsense to the Democrats? We don’t need two parties running down the country.

    Presidents do not reign?  You sure about that?  Has anybody told the current POTUS?  From where I am in the cheap seats it looks like a lot of reigning going on.

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  13. BD Member
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    Isn’t this what a lot of libertarians, including the Paul family, argues? If the US just minded its own business, the rest of the world would just leave us alone? Doesn’t the charming Paul family believe the US brought WW II on itself, as well?

    I disagree with Trump, just pointing out the selectively of the critique.

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  14. MarciN Member
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    Larry Koler:Well, Trump blamed Bush for being president when 9/11 happened — that much is clearly in the transcript. He didn’t say that it was a controlled demolition AND done by the government — so we have that much to be thankful for.

    If there are presidential actions or lack of actions to blame in this it is clearly Clinton’s fault more than Bush’s — that’s a slam dunk and it is surely how the history books will show it in a few years. How easy it is to see that if one looks at the record.

    Wow, Larry. Yes! Thank you.

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  15. MarciN Member
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    Trump’s level of ignorance about the terrorist attacks in September 2001 is staggering.

    The Left will have a field day with these remarks.

    John Bolton would put him in his place.

    Grrrrr.

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  16. MarciN Member
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    Trump is simply argumentative. That’s all he is. There’s not much more to him than that.

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  17. Roadrunner Member
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    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: Dear fellow Republicans: The Trump circus continues only as long as you let it.

    All we have is a circus and you are just arguing about who will be the chief clown.  It would be a better use of time to craft explanations of why nothing can be done with whatever political power Republicans retain.

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  18. captainpower Inactive
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    Roberto: Consistent though. That has essentially been his campaign theme for awhile now. “We are led by very, very stupid people,” Trump, the GOP front-runner weighed in, at a midday rally on Capitol Hill. He called the deal “incompetent” and poised to fail in the fight against Islamic militants. “We will have so much winning if I get elected, that you may get bored with winning.”

    Wow that’s the most damning observation I’ve seen about Trump.

    He thinks if we just had smarter people we could solve all the problems. Talk about utopian! Sounds like a Class-A meddler.

    [edit] If I am not mistaken, this Knowledge problem was the subject of a book by economist Friedrich Hayek, The Fatal Conceit (discussed briefly in a recent thread).

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  19. Jordan Wiegand Inactive
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    Max Ledoux:*headdesk*

    So, 10 or 15 point rise in Trump’s polls, whaddya think?

    But, to play devil’s advocate, CEOs of companies are held accountable for all the stuff that isn’t their fault, and CEO is the model Trump is using for this whole POTUS thing.

    So, I figure Trump thinks of the country as a big company for which he is auditioning, and that does tell us something about how he’ll run things when he is inevitably President.

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  20. Larry Koler Inactive
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    Jordan Wiegand:

    Max Ledoux:*headdesk*

    So, 10 or 15 point rise in Trump’s polls, whaddya think?

    But, to play devil’s advocate, CEOs of companies are held accountable for all the stuff that isn’t their fault, and CEO is the model Trump is using for this whole POTUS thing.

    So, I figure Trump thinks of the country as a big company for which he is auditioning, and that does tell us something about how he’ll run things when he is inevitably President.

    Yes, the president has some of the blame for things that happen on his watch but for the first few months we have to blame the previous president. This is how boards of directors think, too. They do not blame the new guy for things that CLEARLY had roots in the previous administration and were due to a dereliction of duty of that previous president (or CEO).

    9/11 happened 7-1/2 months into Bush’s administration and most, if not all, the lack of protection and lack of intelligence has to be blamed on Clinton — the man who gave us a nuclear North Korea.

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  21. Mark Coolidge
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    Jordan Wiegand:

    Max Ledoux:*headdesk*

    So, I figure Trump thinks of the country as a big company for which he is auditioning, and that does tell us something about how he’ll run things when he is inevitably President.

    I think you are right and that is why he fundamentally misunderstands constitutional government.  Being President is not analogous to being CEO.  It’s why anyone who seriously thinks we’ve gone astray from the constitutional scheme is going to be driven crazy if he becomes President.

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  22. BD Member
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    Rand Paul:

    – “I mean, there are times….leading up to World War II we cut off trade with Japan. That probably caused Japan to react angrily. We also had a blockade on Germany after World War I, which may have encouraged them, some of their anger.”

    – “And the 9/11 Commission was a bipartisan commission. It was by no means any kind of partisan statement, but they readily admit that the main reason the terrorists say they came here is because we’re over there, because we have bases in their land and they don’t like it.”

    Donald Trump is a creep who should not be president. Rand Paul is a creep who should not be a US Senator, let alone the president.

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  23. Hoyacon Member
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    I loved the “blame him” or “don’t blame him” part.  For somebody who styles himself as the anti-politician, he sure is beginning to sound like one.

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  24. MarciN Member
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    Clinton never stopped Air Force missions over northern Iraq. He never stopped the UN sanctions against Iraq. He joined the United Nations in the 1,400 resolutions demanding inspections of Iraq’s weapons facilities. He never negotiated a peace treaty with Iraq.

    I think he mistrusted Iraq every bit as much as Bush 41 and 43 did. I think Hillary knew the real story and that was why she voted for Operation Iraqi Freedom.

    If you could plot the events leading up to the 2003 Shock and Awe, you would see a continuous line that started with Saddam Hussein’s 1990 invasion of Kuwait through GW’s invasion in 2003. That line goes solidly through both of Clinton’s terms.

    If Clinton had had a third term, it would have probably looked just like the first two years of GW’s.

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  25. Xennady Member
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    Silly me. I always thought George Bush was president on 9/11.

    Apparently not. So who was, exactly? At what desk did the buck stop at that day?

    Now I must add that I believe most of the blame lies with Clinton, for reasons everyone knows, at least here.

    Yet I have grown to be profoundly infuriated with the endless buck-passing, excuse-mongering denial I see from the Republican party and its establishment.

    9/11 happened while Bush was president. Yes, it did. He failed to stop it. He then failed to make a case that Bill Clinton and his party bore great responsibility for it, and in fact the democrats had successfully managed to impede Bush administration efforts to do more to prevent it. He failed to argue against the political correctness that had stopped the government from tearing apart Zacharious Moussoui’s laptop to garner every tiny morsel of information it contained. He then allowed Jamie Gorelick to end up on the 9/11 commission, somehow, instead of ending up in prison, failing to make any sort of case against her at all.

    Bottom line: He failed.

    Stop pretending otherwise. Stop. Just stop.

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  26. John Hendrix Thatcher
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    godzilla-facepalm

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  27. barbara lydick Inactive
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    Mark:

    Jordan Wiegand:

    Max Ledoux:*headdesk*

    So, I figure Trump thinks of the country as a big company for which he is auditioning, and that does tell us something about how he’ll run things when he is inevitably President.

    I think you are right and that is why he fundamentally misunderstands constitutional government. Being President is not analogous to being CEO. It’s why anyone who seriously thinks we’ve gone astray from the constitutional scheme is going to be driven crazy if he becomes President.

    Can anyone spell Perot?

    1)  Would anyone like to compare and contrast Perot and Trump?

    2)  And, given that BHO has come close to destroying our constitutional republic with his pen, do you think that if Trump were president it would be all right for him to skirt the Constitution – to get things done, damn it – tho in the name of conservatism (notwithstanding the fact that I don’t believe him to be a conservative)?

    (My thinking: If Trump did do that, you can kiss the Republic goodbye.)

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  28. Leigh Inactive
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    Hoyacon:I loved the “blame him” or “don’t blame him” part. For somebody who styles himself as the anti-politician, he sure is beginning to sound like one.

    I’ve come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as an anti-politician office-seeker. The moment he begins seeking the job, he becomes a politician. He is subject to all the same desires and motivations and potential corrupting forces as those who have been in the business for years. And presidential politics is a heady business that can corrupt particularly quickly.

    Only difference is that, for those who have been in it for years, we can to some degree judge their ability to resist those corrupting forces and evaluate how they handle that pressure.

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  29. Percival Thatcher
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    I wonder if I’ll get as bored with winning as I already am with empty braggadocio.

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  30. Bob Thompson Member
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    I’m biding time waiting for the playoff game to start, so I stopped on CNN and Trump is speaking, and all he has talked about for the 10-15 minutes I’ve been watching is the various poll numbers. I guess he could do this for hours, no substance.

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