Trump Blames 9/11 on Bush

 

2D7AFFC500000578-3276186-_I_M_MUCH_MORE_COMPETENT_Trump_said_of_Presdient_Geroge_W_Bush_t-a-8_1445013286476Bloomberg Television interviewed Donald Trump today and he had tough words for Osama bin Laden Mohammed Atta Al Qaeda George W. Bush.

Anchor Stephanie Ruhle asked The Donald if voters could trust him to keep America safe and if he would provide the “comforter-in-chief” role as Bush did after 9/11 and Obama after the Sandy Hook shooting. I’ll let the Daily Mail take it from here:

“OK, I think I have a bigger heart than all of them,” he said. “I think I’m much more competent than all of them.”

“When you talk about George Bush – I mean, say what you want, the World Trade Center came down during his time.”

Ruhle jumped in, saying, “Hold on! You can’t blame George Bush for that.”

“He was president, okay?” Trump responded. “Blame him or don’t blame him, but he was president. The World Trade Center came down during his reign.”

First, American presidents don’t “reign” and it’s alarming that a presidential frontrunner believes they do. Second, can we leave the “blame America first” nonsense to the Democrats? We don’t need two parties running down the country.

Oh, but he wasn’t done…

“If you look at Sandy Hook, those people are still begging for help. It’s a disaster, and it’s a disaster all over the place.”

“Government has proven to be a disaster during the Obama administration,” Trump pivoted. ‘What we need is a leader, we don’t have a leader.”

Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, CT was the site of a horrific mass shooting. Hurricane Sandy was a large storm that struck the east coast. The two are unrelated — except in The Donald’s mind.

Dear fellow Republicans: The Trump circus continues only as long as you let it.

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  1. MarciN Member
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    Personally, I think his strategy is to get the minimum amount of support he needs to get the Republican nomination and then to go after the conservative-leaning Democrats: stockbrokers, military people, business owners, and anti-unchecked-immigration union members.

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  2. Roadrunner Member
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    The concern for the quality of Presidential candidates is too selective and too late.

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  3. JavaMan Inactive
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    captainpower 

    I will donate $20 to the charity of your choice if this happens before the next President of the United States is sworn in.

    It seems like an unfair characterization and a cheap shot to me.

    Well before you decide that it’s a totally unfair characterization (I’ll grant you it was a cheap shot) this is the type of defense the lady put forth for Mr Trump when some questioned his ties to Planned Parenthood.

    Considering her past/present? positions on abortion it doesn’t seem such a stretch to imagine a scenario much like the one I envisioned.

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  4. Roadrunner Member
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    JavaMan: Considering her past/present?

    As an aside, I am also suspicious of how sincere Trump is about anything.  Just as a reminder, abortion and gay marriage have been made permanently legal by the Supreme Court.  The Court with even one more liberal member would probably do permanent things to the right of free speech and the right to keep and bare arms.  Who knows what clever permanent things they might hatch?  Peter Singer has ideas of how we can even be more barbaric.  They can decide what fair salaries are based on some more emanations and penumbras.  Can there be anything that is beyond the power of our courts?  Further immigration will turn us into a one party state where there will be more than just one additional liberal Supreme Court Justice.  Abortion doesn’t matter anymore.  I wish it weren’t so but that is what an invasive judiciary can do.  Coulter was attempting to be funny about somebody taking insincere swipes at Trump concerning abortion.  Those swipes were phony and weren’t made at Romney when he ran for President.  There is more damage to be done and Ann Coulter is still hopeful we can save ourselves from the packing of the American electorate.  The Chamber of Commerce has other ideas due to short term advantages they imagine and have all but guaranteed an America that will resemble Venezuela in its political climate.  I think we are headed towards radically diminished rights and a reduced standard of living.  Ricochet will be more fun then because it will be totally theoretical, fun unless people are getting arrested.

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  5. captainpower Inactive
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    MarciN: As it was, even the bank monitoring he achieved was more than the New York Times could tolerate. Then insisted on publishing the Treasury’s monitoring methods.

    As a refresher to myself, and perhaps others, I looked up some links on the SWIFT program.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/11/a_return_to_the_new_york_times.html

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_big_idea/2006/07/not_so_swift.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_Finance_Tracking_Program

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  6. Xennady Member
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    Klaatu:It was not political correctness that prevent the FBI from looking at Moussaoui’s laptop, it was the law. That law was thankfully changed afterward but assigning blame to a president because an official 6 or six levels down obeyed the law is not only ridiculous, it is irresponsible.

    I’m sorry, this is not correct.

    From that link:

    AN FBI agent who interrogated Zacarias Moussaoui before September 11, 2001, warned his supervisors more than 70 times that Moussaoui was a terrorist and spelled out his suspicions that the al-Qaeda operative was plotting to hijack an aircraft.

    Harry Samit told jurors at Moussaoui’s sentencing hearing on Monday that his efforts to secure a warrant to search Moussaoui’s belongings were frustrated at every turn by FBI officials he accused of “criminal negligence”.

    More:

    Mr Samit said he kept trying to persuade his bosses to authorise the surveillance warrant or a criminal search warrant until the day before the attacks.

    Just what law, exactly, would prevent the authorization for a search warrant for a guy already under arrest?

    In any case even if there was such a law it doesn’t harm my point. The Bush administration had months to get the law changed, issue executive orders, put heat on bureaucrats, etc.

    It did not do so.

    The buck stopped there.

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  7. Klaatu Inactive
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    Xennady:

    Klaatu:It was not political correctness that prevent the FBI from looking at Moussaoui’s laptop, it was the law. That law was thankfully changed afterward but assigning blame to a president because an official 6 or six levels down obeyed the law is not only ridiculous, it is irresponsible.

    I’m sorry, this is not correct.

    From that link:

    AN FBI agent who interrogated Zacarias Moussaoui before September 11, 2001, warned his supervisors more than 70 times that Moussaoui was a terrorist and spelled out his suspicions that the al-Qaeda operative was plotting to hijack an aircraft.

    Harry Samit told jurors at Moussaoui’s sentencing hearing on Monday that his efforts to secure a warrant to search Moussaoui’s belongings were frustrated at every turn by FBI officials he accused of “criminal negligence”.

    More:

    Mr Samit said he kept trying to persuade his bosses to authorise the surveillance warrant or a criminal search warrant until the day before the attacks.

    Just what law, exactly, would prevent the authorization for a search warrant for a guy already under arrest?

    In any case even if there was such a law it doesn’t harm my point. The Bush administration had months to get the law changed, issue executive orders, put heat on bureaucrats, etc.

    It did not do so.

    The buck stopped there.

    Sorry but the word of one agent is insufficient to substantiate your claim.  Moussaoui was under arrest for an immigration violation, that did not justify searching his laptop.  Just as the police do not have the ability to search your car simply because you were speeding.

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  8. Xennady Member
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    Klaatu:Sorry but the word of one agent is insufficient to substantiate your claim. Moussaoui was under arrest for an immigration violation, that did not justify searching his laptop. Just as the police do not have the ability to search your car simply because you were speeding.

    I suspect that if the police pulled me over for speeding they’d have no trouble getting a search warrant for my car, if they also suspected me of murder. Plainly, at least one FBI agent was worried about Moussoui- and was not allowed to act on his suspicions.

    The result was catastrophic.

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  9. Suspira Member
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    Dear fellow Republicans: The Trump circus continues only as long as you let it.

    How do we stop it? We here at Ricochet seem to be the only Rs staying out of the parade. Reason doesn’t work. Arguments don’t work. Pointing out simple facts doesn’t work.

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  10. Klaatu Inactive
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    I suspect that if the police pulled me over for speeding they’d have no trouble getting a search warrant for my car, if they also suspected me of murder. Plainly, at least one FBI agent was worried about Moussoui- and was not allowed to act on his suspicions.

    The result was catastrophic.

    Not true if they only have suspicion, probable cause was required in this case and that simply did not exist.

    His suspicions may be justified in hindsight but what prevented him from acting on them was not political correctness but the law.

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  11. derek Inactive
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    9/11 uncovered a profound pattern of incompetence in the security services, it was essentially done while they watched. Read The Looming Tower. The CIA and FBI found that their rivalries were more important and pressing than following people with stated aims to do harm. The Bush administration was blindsided.

    What happened afterwards I blame Bush for. He needed competence to do what was required. It was an excellent opportunity to muck out the security agencies or at least elicit a bit of fear. He kept the CIA chief who presided over the mess and gave him a medal.

    The pattern of institutionalized mediocrity that led to 9/11 was maintained and is still there. I fault Bush for that.

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  12. Doug Watt Member
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    Well at least Trump and Hillary have one thing in common. They both share the same belief that almost eight years later everything is GW’s fault.

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