If You Think the Cabbies Are Mad Now…

 

shutterstock_148830743Buckle your seat belts, everybody. We’ve reached peak disruption: a story of the gig economy intersecting with the rise of the robots. From Thomas Lee in the San Francisco Chronicle:

From taxicab unions and package couriers to politicians and regulators, a growing crowd of people would like to destroy Uber. Add one more name to the list: Uber founder and CEO Travis Kalanick.

Somewhere lost in the scrum over whether Uber drivers are employees or contractors, or whether the company conducts proper background checks, is the simple fact that Kalanick wants to eventually replace all Uber drivers with software and computers. Like Google and Tesla, Uber is trying to develop a car that can drive without a human operator.

The piece, of course, dedicates a fair amount of time to what Lee perceives to be Uber’s hypocrisy: the company’s current PR strategy partially revolves around arguing that it offers drivers a better deal than cab companies, while its long-term strategy would remove drivers from the equation altogether.

I’m inclined to go a little easier on the company then that. If they think this is the way the market is inevitably going to move, I don’t know that they have much of a choice. How are you going to compete if your price has to include labor costs that your competitors aren’t shouldering?

What’s more interesting to me is the fact that the vision here is bigger than Uber. Indeed, what Kalanick and company have in mind is nothing more than the destruction of the idea of personal automobiles. From the Guardian piece by Alex Hern linked in the quote above:

While a full move to driverless cars would be Uber’s dream scenario, letting it cut the cost of a ride to little more than fuel plus wear and tear, it could very well be a nightmare for car manufacturers. Self-driving cars could prove the death-knell for private car ownership, with services like Uber offering a cheap substitution while avoiding the wastefulness of leaving an asset worth thousands of pounds sit unused on the side of the road. A self-driving car can carry someone from home to work, head off to a different office and pick up someone going to the airport, even take a package in the boot to be delivered to a client – all while a conventional car would be sitting in its owner’s car park.

Perhaps because of that, the focus from the conventional auto industry has been less on driverless cars, and more on using self-driving technology as a safety feature to augment traditional driving. For instance, a number of cars already on the market are able to maintain a steady cruising speed, stay in lane, stay a safe distance away from cars in front, and even park themselves, all without human intervention. In a patchwork fashion, those cars could eventually build up to almost full automation – but the signals coming from the industry indicate that the final step might be something they are loathe to take.

I own one of these “AI vehicles,” and I have to admit that this technology is very cool (though not yet reliable enough that you would rush out to get the fully automated version). Still, I’m conflicted — and I wonder if you are too.

I’m largely receptive to the intellectual case for driverless cars. But I’m emotionally resistant.

Now, granted, I’m an outlier when it comes to romanticizing driving. In just the past year or so, I’ve piloted my SUV through 42 states. For tax purposes, my official residence is the interstate highway system. But I don’t think you have to be as much of a road warrior as I am to be a little uneasy about this. (Please note before you jump into the comments that this in no way means I think we should attempt to arrest technological progress on this front.)

Here are my questions: Are those of us who feel like we’d be losing some ineffable freedom by having the wheel taken away from us just sentimental luddites? Should we just chill out and await the brave new world of driverless cars and hyperloops? Will personal automobiles become indulgences rather than necessities? For that matter, to what extent can they coexist with driverless vehicles?

I realize I’m getting perilously close to “Get off my lawn” territory. I’m just hoping I’m not the only one.

 

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  1. Hank Rhody Contributor
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    Let’s try a hypothetical; how would you react to an intermediate technology?

    You drive out of town, onto a two lane highway, and to the next town. It sets you in the right lane, going exactly the speed limit, and keeps you there until you get to the next metropolitan areas. When you get there (or if it needs a less-than-immediate decision) it lets you know with an audible alarm. Then you have to take over and drive manually into town.

    Would that be worthwhile? What if you could only use it during daylight hours, in clear weather, with no snow on the ground? It’s not going to see every deer on the side of the road, so what percentage of detections are you going to be able to live with? 99%? 90%?

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  2. Hank Rhody Contributor
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    Mark Wilson:

    Frozen Chosen: You’ll simply take the driverless car to the rental station closest to the mountains and rent a car for the day.

    The snow problem will be solved by driverless snowplows and the driverless cars slowing themselves down to 25 mph.

    I thought you said earlier than humans will not be allowed to drive cars at all because of the potential for accidents. Am I misunderstanding your point?

    On the snow issue, I think you missed the part where I said:

    Mark Wilson: My point with the snow was that the cars [and snowplows] rely on certain fixed indicators of road direction which would not be visible. Freshly fallen or plowed snow looks different every time and would be impossible to accurately map and preload into the car’s memory — which is a requirement for Google’s cars to function properly at the moment.

    Simply driving slow doesn’t address the problem at all.

    If you look on the side of the road you’ll see metal stakes with reflectors on top. Those exist to provide a visual cue for snow plows. For automated cars you could either set them up as radar emitters or reflectors so that a driverless car will know where the road is even if it’s not visible.

    Certainly not for free, and definitely not as easy as all that, but also not unsolvable.

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  3. Frozen Chosen Inactive
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    Hank Rhody:

    John Penfold:

    Frozen Chosen:(ubber is the company Penfold started to compete with Uber. He’s currently fighting a nasty trademark battle)

    Ha! and it offers insight into these automatic technologies. I mac changed it to umber and I replaced rather then deleted.

    Let me know how the trademark battle sorts out. I’m starting Udder, to leverage driverless cow technologies.

    Hank, I thought you were going to start Udder to compete with Uber.

    You know, someone asks your driver if your company is Uber and he says, “No, we’re the Udder one”

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  4. Hank Rhody Contributor
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    Frozen Chosen:

    Hank Rhody:

    Let me know how the trademark battle sorts out. I’m starting Udder, to leverage driverless cow technologies.

    Hank, I thought you were going to start Udder to compete with Uber.

    You know, someone asks your driver if your company is Uber and he says, “No, we’re the Udder one”

    I’m hitting the “like” button on this post, but only because we don’t have one for “your joke is bad and you should feel bad.”

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  5. donald todd Inactive
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    Casey:

    donald todd: If the maps are consistent and the speed does not change, GPS will let the car go where it is intended. Changing speeds? Road work, accidents, the unforeseen event that the GPS won’t be able to identify. Hopefully the driver will be able to take over and avoid a problem.

    The car will know long before the driver knows. The other cars will tell him.

    That sounds like truck drivers giving each other notification.  Breaker breaker..

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  6. donald todd Inactive
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    Whiskey Sam:

    Frank Soto:

    Seawriter: There seems an assumption driverless cars are going to be like guided missiles, with no man-in-the-loop. I believe that is an error. Rather, I suspect it will be more like an autopilot, which can be engaged and disengaged.

    Initially, but the savings in terms of accidents and traffic will lead us to rely on it in an ever increasing fashion.

    This is where it will be fantastic to free ride the system. All of those people taking driverless cars are finally out of my way in the left lane. If I decide to cut you off, your car is going to be programmed to brake to avoid the collision giving me total control of when I want to change lanes or merge for construction. Passing on the shoulder will be the new thing because those driverless cars won’t get mad and speed up to block me.

    I suspect that the laws about driving will be modified to reflect those issues, and that cars which can drive themselves can be queried about what was going on around them and give a pictorial display for those queries.  I can also imagine some harsh penalties being meted out.  Given what I learned about Buick, perhaps your own car will be the witness against you in a traffic court.

    Maybe you’ll want a motorcycle and will spread mud on the plate to avoid identification?

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  7. donald todd Inactive
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    CuriousKevmo:Ultimately I get Dan’s points and I’ve worked on enough software projects to know the devil is indeed in the details. That said, I still think they’ll get it sorted in short order.

    I love that all these idiots on their phones will be able to let the car drive sanely but I’ll hate not being able to drive – I love driving. More than that, I love riding my motorcycles. When it is against the law to ride and drive I will NOT be happy.

    We have a precursor.  Those Marine and Navy F/A 18 carrier pilots who are required to place their hand on a grip up high and let the plane launch without pilot participation.  I do know that the pilots don’t appreciate being denied control of their aircraft.

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  8. donald todd Inactive
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    Dan Hanson:

    The problem with flying cars is logistical and technical. They’ve never made sense, and never will, even if would be great to have them. That doesn’t stop the media from predicting their imminent rise.

    Whether an automated car will survive social acceptability tests is an open question.

    Every so often I ‘ll see an item from the FAA touting flying cars and their utility.  I guess that this means that the FAA won’t be relegated to vacuum tubes in their equipment.

    One of my friends is an elderly woman who hates to drive.  If she can find someone else to get her from point A to point B, she’ll take that option every time.  She has a very nice pearl white Cadillac road yacht but doesn’t feel safe.  Social acceptability in some parts of society will be between high and unanimous as it will permit the timid freedom to go where they want when they want.

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