Betting On The GOP Nomination

 

I recently signed up for an account with PredictIt, a new site that’s replaced the long-defunct InTrade. While we’re tracking what the Ricochet members prefer and what the different pollsters around the country are researching I thought it would be interesting to get a unique perspective. This “poll” is interesting because it’s people putting their money where their mouth is.

With no further introduction, I present you the GOP nomination race according to the bettors. I’m willing to guess that this will be as close to the actual outcome as any poll out there.rnom16

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  1. Douglas Inactive
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    @Douglas

    LilyBart:People I WILL NOT vote for include:

    Jeb!, Rubio, Kasich, Huckabee, Christie and Trump.

    Don’t ask. The answer is “no”. The same ole, same ole is just taking us down the wrong path. And Trump is, well, Trump – you can’t just look at what someone says now, during an election, but look at how they’ve acted in the past – so, no Trump either.

    Hey BTW, did you know that Jeb! got his undergraduate degree from UT in, get this, Latin American Studies! Its true (and very funny).

    Wait a second… he’s a studies grad? Seriously?

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  2. LilyBart Inactive
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    @LilyBart

    Casey:

    LilyBart:People I WILL NOT vote for include:

    Jeb!, Rubio, Kasich, Huckabee, Christie and Trump.

    Don’t ask. The answer is “no”. The same ole, same ole is just taking us down the wrong path. And Trump is, well, Trump – you can’t just look at what someone says now, during an election, but look at how they’ve acted in the past – so, no Trump either.

    Hey BTW, did you know that Jeb! got his undergraduate degree from UT in, get this, Latin American Studies! Its true (and very funny).

    That’s a shame because Rubio is going to win.

    Well, not with my vote.

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  3. LilyBart Inactive
    LilyBart
    @LilyBart

    Douglas:

    ….

    Hey BTW, did you know that Jeb! got his undergraduate degree from UT in, get this, Latin American Studies! Its true (and very funny).

    Wait a second… he’s a studies grad? Seriously?

    Well, his bio says “Latin American affairs”.  But I notice that “affairs” is never capitalized in any of the official information.   I find that significant.   If the degree was “Latin American Affairs” – they would write that, I think.    Other sources say “studies”.
    Plus, UT offers degrees in “Latin American Studies”, but not “Latin American Affairs”.    What this the case at the time?  I don’t know…..

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  4. LilyBart Inactive
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    @LilyBart

    LilyBart:

    Douglas:

    ….

    Hey BTW, did you know that Jeb! got his undergraduate degree from UT in, get this, Latin American Studies! Its true (and very funny).

    Wait a second… he’s a studies grad? Seriously?

    Well, his bio says “Latin American affairs”. But I notice that “affairs” is never capitalized in any of the official information. I find that significant. If the degree was “Latin American Affairs” – they would write that, I think. Other sources say “studies”. Plus, UT offers degrees in “Latin American Studies”, but not “Latin American Affairs”. What this the case at the time? I don’t know…..

    Wait – Per Wiki:

    He graduated Phi Beta Kappa and magna cum laude from the University of Texas with a B.A. in Latin American Studies.[11][22] He completed his coursework in two and a half years.[23]

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  5. Jim Kearney Member
    Jim Kearney
    @JimKearney

    EThompson:

    Tom Meyer, Ed.:I’m amazed Kasich is so high up.

    He’s done a great job in Ohio and I’d love to see him running with Carly. All talent aside, the two have some additional important bona fides:

    Electoral votes for him and an extremely competent woman who would wipe the floor with HC in a debate.

    Marco Rubio is a second choice for me; great state legislative background working with Jeb, 29 electoral votes, invincible in his handling of the MSM, perfect on national security and provides an opportunity to win specific segments of Hispanic voters. He’s dropped to second on my list however because although I was willing to overlook his approach to immigration reform, his recent plan to double child tax credits and raise them on singles and childless couples has left me cold. (Paul Ryan agrees with me on this particular issue.)

    Rubio and Kasich on the same ticket cover the two must important electoral states. Agree with you vs. the child tax credits, but we have a Congress to fix bad ideas which sounded good during a campaign.

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  6. EThompson Member
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    Jim Kearney:

    EThompson:

    Tom Meyer, Ed.:I’m amazed Kasich is so high up.

    He’s done a great job in Ohio and I’d love to see him running with Carly. All talent aside, the two have some additional important bona fides:

    Electoral votes for him and an extremely competent woman who would wipe the floor with HC in a debate.

    Marco Rubio is a second choice for me; great state legislative background working with Jeb, 29 electoral votes, invincible in his handling of the MSM, perfect on national security and provides an opportunity to win specific segments of Hispanic voters. He’s dropped to second on my list however because although I was willing to overlook his approach to immigration reform, his recent plan to double child tax credits and raise them on singles and childless couples has left me cold. (Paul Ryan agrees with me on this particular issue.)

    Rubio and Kasich on the same ticket cover the two must important electoral states. Agree with you vs. the child tax credits, but we have a Congress to fix bad ideas which sounded good during a campaign.

    I’m not sure if I haven’t lost my confidence in Congress. The executive and judicial branches have certainly been calling the shots in the last 6 years.

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  7. Jim Kearney Member
    Jim Kearney
    @JimKearney

    EThompson:

    I’m not sure if I haven’t lost my confidence in Congress. The executive and judicial branches have certainly been calling the shots in the last 6 years.

    I have confidence in Paul Ryan’s slide rule.

    Everything in DC plays differently with a new Party host at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

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  8. Randy Webster Inactive
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    LilyBart: Hey BTW, did you know that Jeb! got his undergraduate degree from UT in, get this, Latin American Studies! Its true (and very funny

    UT?  He lived in Knoxville and I didn’t know?

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  9. LilyBart Inactive
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    @LilyBart

    Randy Webster:

    LilyBart: Hey BTW, did you know that Jeb! got his undergraduate degree from UT in, get this, Latin American Studies! Its true (and very funny

    UT? He lived in Knoxville and I didn’t know?

    Where I’m from, we know that UT is University of Texas.  Unless you ask an Aggie, then they say it TU.

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  10. Ball Diamond Ball Member
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    @BallDiamondBall

    Jim Kearney:

    EThompson:

    I’m not sure if I haven’t lost my confidence in Congress. The executive and judicial branches have certainly been calling the shots in the last 6 years.

    I have confidence in Paul Ryan’s slide rule.

    Everything in DC plays differently with a new Party host at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

    I believe this overstates it broadly.  The corruption on the left becomes corruption on the right.  Our cis-moderates and trans-moderates need not bother themselves with fine distinctions.

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  11. Jim Kearney Member
    Jim Kearney
    @JimKearney

    Ball Diamond Ball:

    trans-moderates need not bother themselves with fine distinctions.

    Not sure what this means. Maybe something about the transportation bill? What you call corruption may be what I call business as usual in Washington.

    A few years ago I looked into a close race in a district in NY State, and the sitting Republican’s website was all about bringing home the bacon. That’s the way it is in lower middle class districts in the north east. It’s still possible to win those seats, just not with ideologically far right candidates. So what always happens with transportation bills is going to keep happening. Or it will be defeated, and people voting against it will answer to local votes who refuse to eliminate pork from their diets.

    My point is when Republicans don’t have to worry about a veto, they’ll pass some (not all) legislation with broader approval in the party. For now, very few things can possibly be passed over a veto. Hopefully scuttling the Iran deal will be one of those things, but it will be very hard. While I’d like to see a comprehensive, electorally marketable Obamacare repeal/replace bill land on the President’s desk, I don’t generally believe that narrowly targeted minor issue right wing veto bait is politically advantageous.

    Re moderates, in certain districts it’s imperative to bring back some of the moderates who were defeated by Democrats in past elections because of ill-advised primary choices. Senator Coons in Delaware, for instance, is up for re-election in 2016. There are many in that category.

    Going further, in some areas where it is impossible to defeat Democrats and because of State jungle primary laws (e.g. California) there will be two Democrats on the November ballot, it is important to support the less left wing Democrat.

    So one of the best growth areas for Republicans, in terms of corralling votes for individual bills, is finding fiscally moderate Democrats to run in that party in deep blue districts. Gubernatorial voters in Illinois, Maryland, etc. trust the GOP to sort out their fiscal mess. If those concerns, choices, and attitudes can be sparked within the Democratic Party, district by district, we’ll be able to fashion less “compromised” compromise legislation. It’s a tall order, but this far left wing course the Dems are on really need to be addressed within their party framework, if Republicans are overcome Democrat obstructionism after we win 1600 in 2016.

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  12. Manny Coolidge
    Manny
    @Manny

    That is very interesting.  My gut feel is that Trump, though I hate to admit it, is higher than that, and Rand Paul lower than that.  But otherwise about right.

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