The Top 13 Things Your IT Guy Wishes You Knew

 

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Inspired by Claire’s request for professional wisdom, here’s my take on what IT guys wish people knew. IT environments differ a lot in size, so not everything will apply, but I’m sure we have enough folks waiting in the wings to add or subtract in the comments.

1) Yes, really. Turn it off and on again.

I know, you hate when we ask you to do that. I really understand the sighing, eye-roll-thing you do when I ask you to do it. It’s annoying to have to stop, save everything, close the dozen-plus tabs you have open in Chrome, and press the restart button. But here’s the thing: It’s one of the biggest reasons your computer is running like Canadian molasses in January. Mac or PC, the operating systems just aren’t 100 percent efficient. Over time, junk builds up, memory gets sequestered and never released, and those updates you’ve been ignoring really do need to be installed. We keep a running record of the longest time since reboot that we’ve found in my office. Right now it’s not numbered in days or weeks, it’s months.

Restart it. Trust me, it may not solve the problem, but it’ll help.

2) There’s one of me, and hundreds of you.

One of the things that fails to cross many user’s minds is that he or she is one of many, many people who want some of my time. I’ve worked in environments where the ratio of users to IT guys was 1-to-1000-plus. (That was a university). I know what you’re doing is important, but so’s the stuff the other 100 people in my In Box are doing, and there just might be someone higher up the chain with a problem that — rightly or wrongly — we have to make a priority. It’s not personal, and we don’t hate you. We just have a lot of people asking us for stuff all at the same time. And none of them are happy.

3) Don’t yell at your waiter.

Ok, so it might be a little personal. Have you ever heard the warning to never make the person serving your food angry? I hate to admit it, but this is true in IT as well. We’re only human. Some people are a joy to work for. There’s nothing more satisfying than being a knight in shining armor to someone who’s about to start sobbing into the keyboard. But the self-entitled jackwad who throws his title around yet can’t remember his password just may wind up at the end of a very long line.

Hey, I never said I was perfect.

4) Please, please, please put it in a ticket or an email.

One of the most vexing things in IT is when someone walks up to you with a problem, you have a conversation about it, and then you get a disappointed nastygram later because whatever you talked about didn’t happen. I’m a guy who prides himself on getting things done: It’s my job. But I honestly can’t remember everything (please see #2). If it’s not in an email, it didn’t happen, and not because I’m trying to cover my rear. I just plain forgot. Ten seconds after we talked, I ran into someone else with a completely different problem, and what you and I talked about got put in a box and put away. For that, I’m truly sorry. If there’s a ticket system for reporting issues, use it. I’ll recognize it, grab it, and get it done — if it’s something I can do; and if not, I’ll give it to someone who can. If there’s no ticket system, send me an e-mail. I check my mail constantly, and I’ll make sure your e-mail is marked “unread” until I get it done.

5) Everyone gets spam. If I could keep you from getting it, I wouldn’t be here.

We try to make sure no one gets the ones from the Nigerian prince or the “BIG … er … whatever” e-mails anymore, but you need to trust me here: If I could make sure every e-mail you’re supposed to get got to you and every baloney spam e-mail went to the trash bin, I wouldn’t be here. I’d be sitting on a beach, earning 20 percent, à la Hans Gruber in Die Hard. I hate those things as much as you do –and I get them, too. Forwarding them to me doesn’t really help, though if it makes you feel better, by all means do so. I’d just like  you to understand that literally, every human being on the planet who has e-mail gets spam, even the ones who use Gmail (just not as much).

6) Yes, I really do need your computer.

By far the thing that makes me want to remote into your computer, disable your keyboard access, and shut it down while you watch is getting an email from you that says your computer isn’t working right, but you won’t stop using it long enough for me to fix it. This isn’t a TV show where I can click the “make it work” button without you even knowing I’m there. I might even have to take your computer and work on it in my office to get it running again. I know it sucks, and if didn’t have to, I wouldn’t. But if you want it to work, you’re going to have to hand over the keys and let me drive for a while.

If you have to, make me your excuse for taking that two-hour lunch. I’ll vouch for you. (And please bring me some fries.)

7) I, too, have bad days.

This isn’t one I’m proud to admit. But I have bad days. Sometimes, for no reason at all, I wake up on the wrong side of the bed, and it takes everything in me not to bite somebody’s head off when he tells me his “computer is running slow” — even though he has a better computer than I do. One good thing to remember is that no one ever comes to me to say, “Hey, everything is working awesome! I just wanted to say thank you!” I don’t only put out fires, but 99 percent of the time, if I hear from users it’s because something is wrong, and they want it fixed now. Most of the time this isn’t a problem. I try to be an upbeat guy, smile, and say, “Hey, no problem, I’ll take care of that for you.” If you catch me on a day where I’m not that friendly, gimme some grace. I have bad days too. (Unless I’m that guy who’s always the jerk nobody likes. Trust me, we don’t like him either).

8) I promise, I don’t watch your webcam or what you’re working on.

A few months back, I started noticing a lot of stickers, tape, and random post-its over the top of the laptop cameras built into the monitor. After a few conversations, I discovered that people are worried they’re being watched or listened to through them. First off, a little tape doesn’t mute the microphone (just a heads-up). But more importantly, we’re not watching. Really, we’re not. I know what you saw on NCIS, and technically, it is possible to hack into someone’s computer to watch and listen to them. But unless you’re Angelina Jolie or some other celebrity, a hacker who does that kind of thing is more likely to find you by accident. The odds are slim. Most enterprise-level organizations use software that lets us remote into your computer so we can fix things. Some flavors of that software let us see screenshots of what you’re doing before we connect to you (so we don’t interrupt you if you’re doing something important). But I’ve got a lot of work to do, so if you’re surfing Facebook on company time, it just isn’t my concern. Now, if we’re told to watch your habits, that’s a different thing altogether. So don’t abuse your Internet privileges, commit corporate espionage, or watch porn. Deal?

9) We eat lunch.

It should seem obvious, honestly, given the general body-mass index of your average IT guy, but we eat lunch. I can’t speak for all of us, but I tend to do working lunches. It’s a great time to get caught up on e-mails, tickets, and anything that I can do while eating the food I brought from home — and still leave on time to beat traffic. It’s not a great time for you to walk into the office and give me a play-by-play of your latest computer malady when you could easily have told me about it in an e-mail. If you come into my office and I’m eating lunch, maybe just give me the Reader’s Digest version. Tell me you’ll send me an e-mail about it later. It’s nothing personal, but the fact that you can’t add an attachment in Outlook Web Access in Chrome might not be the food-abandoning crisis you think it is.

10) Yes, complex passwords suck. I hate them, too.

Passwords. Everybody hates them, me included. Capital letters and numbers and special characters — who can remember that stuff? Everybody has a dozen-plus accounts these days, and you’re supposed to make all the passwords different and change them frequently. I get it, it’s a pain. But it’s a necessary evil and a standard practice, and I don’t have any control over it. I wish I didn’t have to make you do it. I really do. Just watch the news, though: Stuff gets hacked all the time, and this is one of the easiest security measures to implement. We know you use the same basic password and change the numbers at the end; we’ll give you a pass on that, everybody does it. Still, if you can avoid it, please don’t give us the whole speech about how much you hate it every time it comes up. We know. We sympathize. But there really isn’t a thing we can do about it.

11) No, really, I don’t hate Macs.

The Enterprise network world (as far as users are concerned) is Windows-centric. It just is. Right, wrong or indifferent, Microsoft is at the top of this pack, and even with their menagerie of problems, they make a decent and affordable product that scales well as organizations grow. I say this as a user of Apple products: I don’t hate Macs. I know you like the personal one you have at home, and I know you hate Windows. There are days I hate it, too. But if you knew what it would take to make the occasional Mac work in a PC-centric Domain, you wouldn’t beg for one — if only out of compassion. More importantly, if you knew what it would cost to make everything an Apple product, organization-wide, and keep it that way, you really wouldn’t want us to, because you wouldn’t be getting a raise. Ever.

When Apple makes Enterprise solutions a priority I’ll be more than happy to consider it, but for the time being, enjoy the one you have at home. I know I do: It’s right next to my PC and my Linux box.

12) Sometimes, there is no magic wand.

Alas, sometimes you win the new-problem lottery. You see, not everything that happens in the IT world has happened before. Don’t get me wrong, most of the time it has, and even if I haven’t seen it, it’s been seen by someone just a Google search away. But when that’s not the case, you need to understand that there’s no magic wand. It could very well be that what you’ve run into is new. We’re trying to figure it out (and believe me, as much as we bellyache about it, we enjoy the challenge). It may even be that the hardware on your computer is broken, in which case, no combination of nasty e-mails, expletive-laden phone calls, and in-person butt-chewings can change the fact that we have to wait for parts and/or wait for the manufacturer to figure it out.

I’m really sorry. Please take the loaner laptop and be patient with us.

13) I really do want your stuff to work.

Ultimately, I would really like users to believe that I want your stuff to work. I don’t get any pleasure from your computer breaking down in the middle of a presentation or from Word crashing on you as you typed the last few sentences of that report. Honestly, it pains me, because I feel some responsibility even when it’s nothing I could have prevented. As much as I may like you, the only time I really want to see you is when I give you that cool new upgrade or when we cross paths getting a cup of coffee. In a perfect world, that would be the only time you ever had contact with me.

But it isn’t a perfect world. So let me take care of you as best I can, and trust me when I tell you that a little patience and a smile can go a long way.

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  1. user_428379 Coolidge
    user_428379
    @AlSparks

    lesserson:

    One thing that our organization is really bad about is people trying to circumvent the system so sometimes we have to remind them we even have a ticket system.

    That’s a problem all IT organizations large enough to have a ticketing system have.  Another problem is with IT workers who have their favorites, and allow or encourage them to bypass the ticketing system.

    I mostly do server support now, not desktop.  But I have been guilty of that.

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  2. EThompson Member
    EThompson
    @

    Matt Bartle:I could add a couple things people should know:

    You did something

    Don’t tell me, “I don’t know how that happened. I didn’t do anything!” Yes, you did. You did something – you clicked OK or clicked delete or cancel or you dragged and dropped the file where it didn’t belong, or something. It didn’t just happen!

    I have to wade through your explanation of the problem for a while to figure out what the problem actually is

    “The Internet is down.” No, the web site you’re trying to access is down. The rest of the Internet is fine. “I can’t print.” No, you can’t print to that printer. You can print to other printers. Often people are really bad at understanding and communicating what their problem is

    You know I liked your comment at #22 but I may have to reconsider because you are hitting a little too close to home here.

    :)

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  3. Julia PA Inactive
    Julia PA
    @JulesPA

    lesserson:

    Jules PA:

    lesserson:

    Jules PA:I’m that person who says THANK YOU to the IT person in advance. I know it is a tough job.

    OTOH, please notice when we tell you all the things we’ve done before we submit the ticket, which includes restarting, etc. Some of us learn from your instructions. :)

    Still, Thank you, Mr./Ms. IT. You help technology be our friend, not an enema enemy.

    These are always my favorite. I appreciate when folks have already tried the stuff they know I’m going to ask. On the other hand it usually means you get the, “Huh…that’s weird…” and we’re going to have to borrow it for a while :)

    Or when my colleague, who calls me before tech support, has a computer that refuses to conform to any known IT standards. Really. Why don’t the IT just re-image her computer? Clearly there is something wrong when every known standard is unsuccessful every single time. No. Matter. What.

    It it like a poltergeist computer. I want to drive over it with my car (by accident–of course!) :)

    I know exactly what you mean. Whatever little difference there is on that computer is nearly impossible to figure out. More than once I’ve been tempted to have to explain to my boss that “It just fell down the stairs, it was awful…and yeah, I closed that ticket”.

    but why do the IT insist on trying to figure it out, rather than just re-image it?

    It seems like a simple “time to do laundry” task when the same computer keeps vomiting craziness from here to eternity.

    the mouse on this computer doesn’t work right. the track pad is irregular. the folder hierarchy is inconsistent. the standard software is glitchy–both old and new. every bizarre thing that does not go wrong on any other computer goes wrong on this device, as if it hoards every know malfunction known to man.

    But still, IT returns it, “repaired” though it remains ever un-repaired.

    In my opinion, steps + computer + throw = problem solved.

    or

    car tire intersects computer on driveway = happiness. :)

    and lastly, why does this malfunctioning computer ALWAYS go to the least tech-savvy person on the staff? xx00

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  4. Julia PA Inactive
    Julia PA
    @JulesPA

    you do know I am that girl who whispers niceties to the copier, right?

    “You’re doing a great job today.”

    “Are you having a bad day copier? What can I do for you?”

    “Aww, copier, thanks for helping me out today.”

    “Are you gonna pull this now? I don’t have time for this.”

    Copiers have a will, and will use it against you, if you are unkind in thought or deed.

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  5. lesserson Member
    lesserson
    @LesserSonofBarsham

    Jules PA:

    (SNIP)

    but why do the IT insist on trying to figure it out, rather than just re-image it?

    We don’t actually do imaging where I’m at now but I can say my rule of thumb is that if it’s going to take more than 3 hours to root out the problem I “nuke and repave” it. It’s just quicker that way. Sometimes though if we’re seeing the problem more than once we need to figure out exactly why it is so we can fix the problem altogether and you just happened to be the lucky soul who brought it in last.

    (SNIP)

    and lastly, why does this malfunctioning computer ALWAYS go to the least tech-savvy person on the staff? xx00

    Field Testing….   :)

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  6. lesserson Member
    lesserson
    @LesserSonofBarsham

    duplicate

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  7. Julia PA Inactive
    Julia PA
    @JulesPA

    Jules PA:

    and lastly, why does this malfunctioning computer ALWAYS go to the least tech-savvy person on the staff? xx00

    and how come they are always my friend–the one with the dysfunctional computer?

    :)

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  8. lesserson Member
    lesserson
    @LesserSonofBarsham

    Jules PA:

    Jules PA:

    and lastly, why does this malfunctioning computer ALWAYS go to the least tech-savvy person on the staff? xx00

    and how come they are always my friend–the one with the dysfunctional computer?

    :)

    Well, it takes a lot of work to get it that way but you know those surveys companies make you take…?

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  9. skipsul Inactive
    skipsul
    @skipsul

    tech_support_cheat_sheethttps://xkcd.com/627/

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  10. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Matt Bartle:I could add a couple things people should know:

    You did something

    Don’t tell me, “I don’t know how that happened. I didn’t do anything!” Yes, you did. You did something – you clicked OK or clicked delete or cancel or you dragged and dropped the file where it didn’t belong, or something. It didn’t just happen!

    I was doing business process management for a short project for a company. I cobbled together a Word document with fields for all the information we needed to capture, after the idea of building a quick database was rejected. (The database would have had relational integrity, which Word did not.)

    One of the guys on my team called me over to look at his document. It was “doing funny things.” Somehow, he had gotten extra page breaks in the document, but they were different from the breaks I had put in, and I was trying to figure it out as I sat in his chair and he stood above me.

    “Now, how did you screw this up?” I asked.

    “Excuse me? I don’t screw things up!” This was a very tall, very fit black man and as I looked over at him, he seemed to be swollen up with rage beyond his normally large and threatening size.

    “Well, you can choose any word you want, but it wasn’t this way when I gave it to you.” I figured it out, and he didn’t kill me.

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  11. skipsul Inactive
    skipsul
    @skipsul

    What I love is how some people are just cursed.  If you buy 12 identical computers, that person will get the flaky one that ends up at the warranty depot.  If you spend 3 hours fixing their system, testing and re-testing it to make sure every damn thing works, it will spontaneously crash just by them sitting in front of it.  If there is a virus on the network, it’s their machine.  They’re the one who, after sitting through yet another security lecture about taking sales laptops out on trips, will write their password on a sticker right by the power button, then leave their laptop bag at the airport.  If there is a buggy security patch, only their computer will meet the esoteric criteria for the bug to manifest.

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  12. lesserson Member
    lesserson
    @LesserSonofBarsham

    Arahant:

    (SNIP)

    …and he didn’t kill me.

    This, ladies and gentlemen, is the essence of success.

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  13. Julia PA Inactive
    Julia PA
    @JulesPA

    skipsul:What I love is how some people are just cursed. If you buy 12 identical computers, that person will get the flaky one that ends up at the warranty depot. If you spend 3 hours fixing their system, testing and re-testing it to make sure every damn thing works, it will spontaneously crash just by them sitting in front of it. If there is a virus on the network, it’s their machine. They’re the one who, after sitting through yet another security lecture about taking sales laptops out on trips, will write their password on a sticker right by the power button, then leave their laptop bag at the airport. If there is a buggy security patch, only their computer will meet the esoteric criteria for the bug to manifest.

    Who assigned this computer to my friend? and Why? Why?? Why???

    :)

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  14. skipsul Inactive
    skipsul
    @skipsul

    Matt Bartle: You did something

    Don’t tell me, “I don’t know how that happened. I didn’t do anything!” Yes, you did. You did something – you clicked OK or clicked delete or cancel or you dragged and dropped the file where it didn’t belong, or something. It didn’t just happen!

    OOOOHHHH  THIS!!!!  A THOUSAND TIMES THIS!!!!

    I had a guy (Barney, for those who remember the reference) who constantly dragged and dropped entire directories on the server, making gigabytes of data disappear, but always went on a rant about what an awful person I was for not making a more robust server setup.

    When we were still on XP, I warned him time and time and time again that XP could hang or crash if you dropped lots of large files onto your desktop (the fault was in how XP would give you previews instead of generic icons).  Every few weeks I’d have to clear his desktop of every PDF, CDR, AVI, MPG, or PSD he was working on, just so his computer would actually run.  I’d actually yell at him to stop doing this, but a few months would go by and he’d do it all over again.

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  15. skipsul Inactive
    skipsul
    @skipsul

    Jules PA:

    skipsul:What I love is how some people are just cursed. If you buy 12 identical computers, that person will get the flaky one that ends up at the warranty depot. If you spend 3 hours fixing their system, testing and re-testing it to make sure every damn thing works, it will spontaneously crash just by them sitting in front of it. If there is a virus on the network, it’s their machine. They’re the one who, after sitting through yet another security lecture about taking sales laptops out on trips, will write their password on a sticker right by the power button, then leave their laptop bag at the airport. If there is a buggy security patch, only their computer will meet the esoteric criteria for the bug to manifest.

    Who assigned this computer to my friend? and Why? Why?? Why???

    :)

    Maybe your friend is cursed?  My sister is cursed.  She admits it.  Computers go strange with her.

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  16. Midget Faded Rattlesnake Member
    Midget Faded Rattlesnake
    @Midge

    skipsul:What I love is how some people are just cursed. If you buy 12 identical computers, that person will get the flaky one that ends up at the warranty depot. If you spend 3 hours fixing their system, testing and re-testing it to make sure every damn thing works, it will spontaneously crash just by them sitting in front of it. If there is a virus on the network, it’s their machine. They’re the one who, after sitting through yet another security lecture about taking sales laptops out on trips, will write their password on a sticker right by the power button, then leave their laptop bag at the airport. If there is a buggy security patch, only their computer will meet the esoteric criteria for the bug to manifest.

    Hey, I resemble that remark. Minus the viruses and dumb security moves.

    But when I was younger, I did seem to be able to crash computers by just sitting in front of them. In the case of one roommate’s computer, it was because she liked pranking me by rigging it. But even so, that couldn’t explain all of them…

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  17. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Midget Faded Rattlesnake:In the case of one roommate’s computer, it was because she liked pranking me by rigging it. But even so, that couldn’t explain all of them…

    Oh, now computer pranks could be a thread of its own. Some of my favorites were back on an old MicroVax/VMS system. You could set a user’s opening script so it would display ASCII graphics that would scroll up onto the CRT. Those were the days.

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  18. skipsul Inactive
    skipsul
    @skipsul

    Midget Faded Rattlesnake: In the case of one roommate’s computer, it was because she liked pranking me by rigging it.

    *whistles and tries to look innocent*

    Ahem.

    Pranking?  Why no, never.  I have never sabotaged a boot floppy.  I have never done childish things like remote in to another computer and change their wallpaper to lady Gaga in her meat dress.  And I most certainly have never even contemplated anything like these!:

    http://osxdaily.com/2014/04/01/4-goofy-pranks-for-mac-users/

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  19. skipsul Inactive
    skipsul
    @skipsul

    Arahant:

    Midget Faded Rattlesnake:In the case of one roommate’s computer, it was because she liked pranking me by rigging it. But even so, that couldn’t explain all of them…

    Oh, now computer pranks could be a thread of its own. Some of my favorites were back on an old MicroVax/VMS system. You could set a user’s opening script so it would display ASCII graphics that would scroll up onto the CRT. Those were the days.

    Or message nuke them out of their terminal session, or abuse ping…

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  20. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    I go back to the very early days of PCs when they had 5-1/4″ floppies. There was a little program that did a washing machine thing. It would make noises, report it was cleaning the machine, go through spin cycle. There were several like that out there in the early days, and for new users, they worked so well.

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  21. lesserson Member
    lesserson
    @LesserSonofBarsham

    In the early 00’s there was a site (can’t remember it now) that would emulate a Mac desktop on a PC. We’d pick out the guys we knew hadn’t touched a Mac and do it when they went to the bathroom.  Good times.

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  22. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    lesserson:In the early 00′s there was a site (can’t remember it now) that would emulate a Mac desktop on a PC. We’d pick out the guys we knew hadn’t touched a Mac and do it when they went to the bathroom. Good times.

    As I said, That might make a good thread on its own.

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  23. tbeck Inactive
    tbeck
    @Dorothea

    skipsul:What I love is how some people are just cursed. If you buy 12 identical computers, that person will get the flaky one that ends up at the warranty depot. If you spend 3 hours fixing their system, testing and re-testing it to make sure every damn thing works, it will spontaneously crash just by them sitting in front of it. If there is a virus on the network, it’s their machine. They’re the one who, after sitting through yet another security lecture about taking sales laptops out on trips, will write their password on a sticker right by the power button, then leave their laptop bag at the airport. If there is a buggy security patch, only their computer will meet the esoteric criteria for the bug to manifest.

    In the meantime, I need help blocking some people from Uzbekistan.

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  24. skipsul Inactive
    skipsul
    @skipsul

    Dorothea:

    skipsul:What I love is how some people are just cursed. If you buy 12 identical computers, that person will get the flaky one that ends up at the warranty depot. If you spend 3 hours fixing their system, testing and re-testing it to make sure every damn thing works, it will spontaneously crash just by them sitting in front of it. If there is a virus on the network, it’s their machine. They’re the one who, after sitting through yet another security lecture about taking sales laptops out on trips, will write their password on a sticker right by the power button, then leave their laptop bag at the airport. If there is a buggy security patch, only their computer will meet the esoteric criteria for the bug to manifest.

    In the meantime, I need help blocking some people from Uzbekistan.

    Have you tried turning off and back on again?

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  25. Ryan M Inactive
    Ryan M
    @RyanM

    OK… I’m a lawyer who works in a small town in a dependency court. I use a pc with no malware protector that backs up to a stand alone hard drive and to one drive. I pay for Microsoft exchange. I’ve never worried much about security because what I do is so valueless to any hacker and I’m so insanely um… Unimportant. I’ve never had any problem except that the screen on my surface pro just randomly went off and won’t work anymore. I suppose that is irresponsibly lax, but is that a common sentiment that ambos you tech guys? Why would anyone possibly want to get onto my computer?

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  26. skipsul Inactive
    skipsul
    @skipsul

    Ryan M:OK… I’m a lawyer who works in a small town in a dependency court. I use a pc with no malware protector that backs up to a stand alone hard drive and to one drive. I pay for Microsoft exchange.I’ve never worried much about security because what I do is so valueless to any hacker and I’m so insanely um… Unimportant.I’ve never had any problem except that the screen on my surface pro just randomly went off and won’t work anymore.I suppose that is irresponsibly lax, but is that a common sentiment that ambos you tech guys? Why would anyone possibly want to get onto my computer?

    They want your processing power.  Data is bonus, of course, but the big money is in farms of zombie servers.  You won’t miss a few processor cycles or that hidden block on your hard drive.  Maybe they’re using you as a bit torrent relay, maybe as a spam generator, maybe just to see if you know anyone important.  Extra points if they sift a bank account number, or credit card, if they can use your private email address to send out viruses to your friends, who of course will open any attachment coming from you, because they trust you.

    You start to see the scope of the problem.

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  27. Ryan M Inactive
    Ryan M
    @RyanM

    skipsul:

    Ryan M:OK… I’m a lawyer who works in a small town in a dependency court. I use a pc with no malware protector that backs up to a stand alone hard drive and to one drive. I pay for Microsoft exchange.I’ve never worried much about security because what I do is so valueless to any hacker and I’m so insanely um… Unimportant.I’ve never had any problem except that the screen on my surface pro just randomly went off and won’t work anymore.I suppose that is irresponsibly lax, but is that a common sentiment that ambos you tech guys? Why would anyone possibly want to get onto my computer?

    They want your processing power. Data is bonus, of course, but the big money is in farms of zombie servers. You won’t miss a few processor cycles or that hidden block on your hard drive. Maybe they’re using you as a bit torrent relay, maybe as a spam generator, maybe just to see if you know anyone important. Extra points if they sift a bank account number, or credit card, if they can use your private email address to send out viruses to your friends, who of course will open any attachment coming from you, because they trust you.

    You start to see the scope of the problem.

    Certainly.  But here’s the problem for us rubes (and I’m actually kind of a nerd, and fairly young, just totally uninterested in this particular type of thing); Norton flashes up on my screen with a warning every few days or so.  What I see there is “give me money.”  There are hundreds of other programs you can put on your computer that supposedly protect you, but they slow everything down or pop up all the time to sell you crap or whatever… for those of us who want to just be left well enough alone, it’s either the possibility of some hacker happening to target me out of literally millions of targets, or the certainty of some obnoxious-assed protection program that plays on my semi-rational fears to sell me something that I really will have to pay for and that really will annoy me.

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  28. user_981769 Inactive
    user_981769
    @Derringdoo

    Everyone gets SPAM. If I could keep you from getting it, I wouldn’t be here.

    We try and make sure no one gets the Nigerian prince emails anymore or the “BIG…er…whatever” emails but you need to trust me here, if I could make sure every email your supposed to get got to you and every B.S. SPAM email went to the trash bin, I wouldn’t be here. I’d be

    A lot of times you can thank your upper level executives and marketing people for the spam that makes it through the filters when they force putting in spam byspasses for things like Neiman-Marcus catalogs or Tesla marketing sites.  Every exemption opens the door a little wider for stuff you don’t want.

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  29. Ryan M Inactive
    Ryan M
    @RyanM

    skipsul:

    Midget Faded Rattlesnake: In the case of one roommate’s computer, it was because she liked pranking me by rigging it.

    *whistles and tries to look innocent*

    Ahem.

    Pranking? Why no, never. I have never sabotaged a boot floppy. I have never done childish things like remote in to another computer and change their wallpaper to lady Gaga in her meat dress. And I most certainly have never even contemplated anything like these!:

    http://osxdaily.com/2014/04/01/4-goofy-pranks-for-mac-users/

    pranking was so much fun in college… I used to love taking screen-shots of my friends’ screens, then making it the background and pulling all of the icons off-screen.  Worked great with windows 98.  Oh, what great fun.  I also remember buying “heroes of might and magic” with another friend who had 56k and spending nights playing online.  Funny thing was that we lived in such a tiny town that we could just as easily just walk over to the other house and play together.  My wife (before she was even my girlfriend) was an early adopter of ICQ back in the day…  Yes, I’m younger than many of the Ricochet nerds around here, but being in high school in the 90’s when computers were still a huge novelty was pretty awesome.  We were cutting edge enough that right now I feel like I don’t know what’s going on anymore, which makes me way older than I actually am.

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  30. skipsul Inactive
    skipsul
    @skipsul

    Ryan M: Norton flashes up on my screen with a warning every few days or so.  What I see there is “give me money.”  There are hundreds of other programs you can put on your computer that supposedly protect you, but they slow everything down or pop up all the time to sell you crap or whatever

    Well, Norton has been junk IMHO for years now.  But yeah, you’re right that there is definitely a risk analysis element to how you set up your security.  As was discussed on the IOT thread, security has to be layered and sensible.  Virus scanners are of limited utility, and should never even come into play if you are playing the game right – they’re a last resort.

    First best step is to just get a good NAT firewall, then set all the rules up way high.  In fact, with all computers you should set the rules as max, then back off just until you make things usable.

    Next step is to run script blocking services in your browsers (I hope and pray you don’t use IE).  The good browsers all have them.  Learn how they work.  They’ll also deal with the ads.  Use a couple of different browsers – one that is locked up tight, and one that is a bit looser that you use for known safe sites.

    Don’t run in full admin mode, and keep your password strong.

    And so forth – it’s just a series of precautions.

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