W: ‘So, Yeah… I Was Pretty Much Right All Along’

 

620x349For six long years George W. Bush has kept opinions about Obama’s policies to himself. While Cheney has more than made up for the absence of the last administration’s feelings, W was of the mindset that it is “unpresidential” to speak badly of other Presidents. Maybe he is right, but certainly to the chagrin of Conservatives.

That was until Saturday night when W spoke to the Republican Jewish Coalition in Las Vegas. During his speech he stated the obvious (to us Conservatives) but nonetheless, it was refreshing to hear it from the man who has been the bane of every political bomb thrower, blamer and punchline.

Selected statements as reported from Bloomberg:

Obama, in his view, was placing the U.S. in “retreat” around the world. He also said Obama was misreading Iran’s intentions while relaxing sanctions on Tehran too easily.

Bush said that Obama’s plan to lift sanctions on Iran with a promise that they could snap back in place at any time was not plausible. He also said the deal would be bad for American national security in the long term: “You think the Middle East is chaotic now? Imagine what it looks like for our grandchildren. That’s how Americans should view the deal.”

On Obama’s decision to withdraw all U.S. troops in Iraq at the end of 2011, he quoted Senator Lindsey Graham calling it a “strategic blunder.”

Obama promised to degrade and destroy Islamic State’s forces but then didn’t develop a strategy to complete the mission, Bush said. He said that if you have a military goal and you mean it, “you call in your military and say ‘What’s your plan?’ ” He indirectly touted his own decision to surge troops to Iraq in 2007, by saying, “When the plan wasn’t working in Iraq, we changed.”

“In order to be an effective president … when you say something you have to mean it,” he said. “You gotta kill em.”

I don’t know if W finally letting loose has anything to do with his brother’s likely candidacy for President. One would hope that, like most of us, it’s simply because he has had enough of the feeble and feckless foreign policy, whose disastrous results will be hoisted onto the next President.

Whatever your opinion is of the Iraq War and the interventionist policies of the last administration, the indisputable fact is that the 2007 surge worked. Iraq, in a relative sense, was stable.

In 2015 American troops still have a presence in Korea, Japan, Germany, and sparingly located in other historic hotspots worldwide. Obama’s inability to negotiate a new status of forces agreement is, by all measures, one of the most consequential foreign policy failures in modern history.

As we head toward 2016, Hillary must either decide whether she wants to defend Obama’s policies or hide from them. With Obama’s predecessor now apparently comfortable entering back into political forum, I hope we hear much more of W’s reality based perspective.

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  1. user_1065645 Member
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    @DaveSussman

    FloppyDisk90:

    David Sussman:I don’t know if W finally letting loose has anything to do with his brother’s likely candidacy for President. One would hope that, like most of us, it’s simply because he has had enough of the feeble and feckless foreign policy, whose disastrous results will be hoisted onto the next President.

    Whatever your opinion is of the Iraq War and the interventionist policies of the last administration, the indisputable fact is that the 2007 surge worked. Iraq, in a relative sense, was stable.

    I grant wholeheartedly that Obama’s foreign policy, such as it exists, is indeed feeble and feckless.  But that’s no reason to get all dewy eyed over the equally feckless military adventurism that marked our decades long intervention in Iraq.  That the IA folded like a cheap suit when faced with the equivalent of an armed mob is a glaring indictment of its failure.

    Floppy, the Iraqi Army was subject to the political mess that was the Malaki transition. Remember, it was planned that U.S. and allied troops would train and support the Army to become self sufficient. However, once the status of forces agreement could not be negotiated by Obama and the U.S. pulled out lock, stock and barrel, there was no infrastructure to continue training.

    After the surge in 2007 Iraq had much promise. What was feckless was the U.S. walking away to fulfill a campaign promise.

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  2. FloppyDisk90 Member
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    @FloppyDisk90

    David Sussman:

    FloppyDisk90:

    …..

    Floppy, the Iraqi Army was subject to the political mess that was the Malaki transition. Remember, it was planned that U.S. and allied troops would train and support the Army to become self sufficient. However, once the status of forces agreement could not be negotiated by Obama and the U.S. pulled out lock, stock and barrel, there was no infrastructure to continue training.

    After the surge in 2007 Iraq had much promise. What was feckless was the U.S. walking away to fulfill a campaign promise.

    On the contrary, we’re there to this day.

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  3. FloppyDisk90 Member
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    @FloppyDisk90

    Double post

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  4. user_1065645 Member
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    @DaveSussman

    FloppyDisk90:

    David Sussman:

    FloppyDisk90:

    …..

    Floppy, the Iraqi Army was subject to the political mess that was the Malaki transition. Remember, it was planned that U.S. and allied troops would train and support the Army to become self sufficient. However, once the status of forces agreement could not be negotiated by Obama and the U.S. pulled out lock, stock and barrel, there was no infrastructure to continue training.

    After the surge in 2007 Iraq had much promise. What was feckless was the U.S. walking away to fulfill a campaign promise.

    On the contrary, we’re there to this day.

    Correct… after leaving in 2011 Iraq went to hell. Only 6 months after calling ISIS “JV” Obama could no longer ignore the humanitarian disaster unfolding and finally listened to his Generals (partly). At the end of 2014 he authorized another couple of thousand troops to head back for training purposes only.

    My point is, this would’ve not been necessary if he had stayed the course. I have a number of disagreements with W, but in this case, he was right.

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  5. FloppyDisk90 Member
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    @FloppyDisk90

    David Sussman:

    FloppyDisk90:

    David Sussman:

    FloppyDisk90:

    …..

    Floppy, the Iraqi Army was subject to the political mess that was the Malaki transition. Remember, it was planned that U.S. and allied troops would train and support the Army to become self sufficient. However, once the status of forces agreement could not be negotiated by Obama and the U.S. pulled out lock, stock and barrel, there was no infrastructure to continue training.

    After the surge in 2007 Iraq had much promise. What was feckless was the U.S. walking away to fulfill a campaign promise.

    On the contrary, we’re there to this day.

    Correct… after leaving in 2011 Iraq went to hell. Only 6 months after calling ISIS “JV” Obama could no longer ignore the humanitarian disaster unfolding and finally listened to his Generals (partly). At the end of 2014 he authorized another couple of thousand troops to head back for training purposes only.

    My point is, this would’ve not been necessary if he had stayed the course. I have a number of disagreements with W, but in this case, he was right.

    Removed by author

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  6. FloppyDisk90 Member
    FloppyDisk90
    @FloppyDisk90

    David Sussman:

    FloppyDisk90:

    David Sussman:

    FloppyDisk90:

    …..

    Floppy, the Iraqi Army was subject to the political mess that was the Malaki transition. Remember, it was planned that U.S. and allied troops would train and support the Army to become self sufficient. However, once the status of forces agreement could not be negotiated by Obama and the U.S. pulled out lock, stock and barrel, there was no infrastructure to continue training.

    After the surge in 2007 Iraq had much promise. What was feckless was the U.S. walking away to fulfill a campaign promise.

    On the contrary, we’re there to this day.

    Correct… after leaving in 2011 Iraq went to hell. Only 6 months after calling ISIS “JV” Obama could no longer ignore the humanitarian disaster unfolding and finally listened to his Generals (partly). At the end of 2014 he authorized another couple of thousand troops to head back for training purposes only.

    My point is, this would’ve not been necessary if he had stayed the course. I have a number of disagreements with W, but in this case, he was right.

    We “stayed the course” for 13+ years.  The IA didn’t put up a brave fight and lose due to lack of training, it turned tail and ran largely because of sectarian prejudices.  13 years of support and training didn’t solve that issue.

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  7. Ricochet Member
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    Manny:Yes!!! What a welcomed voice. This is partly why I loved the George W. presidency. We were shaping the world for the better, not retreating and letting the world degenerate into chaos. The natural state of the world is not peace; it is chaos and it takes an ordering hand to keep it from falling apart. Yes, there are limits to what the US can do, but doing nothing is not the answer.

    I loved Bush presidency too. In fact, I was a card-carrying liberal Democrat prior to voting for him. It was more than the antics of Clinton; a realization that it was no longer my parents main-stream party, but extreme views that I had nothing in common with.  I went into political rehab and came out a thinking person with no regrets. I remember listening to “W’s” inauguration speech and the hair on my neck stood up – go back and read it – very prophetic. I also do not recall a terrorist attack occurring after 9/11 on our soil while he was in office.  Even Putin backed off.  He was also courteous to all, even those with opposing views. He made room for gay rights by backing civil unions, stem-cell research using only adult and current embryo cells already harvested, gave more money to Aids research than any other and NEVER let Netanyahu use the back door or wait for a meeting. He called a terrorist a terrorist-and never flinched. Miss him.

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  8. Grendel Member
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    donald todd:

    Standing on the stage?  Not until Jeb is being sworn in, and then only on the periphery.  Any hand in what Jeb will try to accomplish?  Only at the end of a phone line and only if asked.  

    At least we would have Harry Shearer’s conference calls of “41”, “43”, and “45”.

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