Underwhelmed By Greatness?

 

RearWindowHave you ever had this experience? Have you ever sat down with a book, a film, an album, what have you, that you’ve heard from time immemorial was a classic and thought…eh? Maybe you would have liked it if you had come to it cold, but it just couldn’t bear the weight of its own legacy.

I’ve always been a big Alfred Hitchcock fan. Vertigo is one of my favorite films of all time. The episode of Alfred Hitchcock Presents entitled “Breakdown” is one of the most gripping 30 minutes of television I’ve ever seen (you can find it on Netflix or Amazon). While I’ve worked my way through most of the Hitchcock corpus, I had, until recently, somehow failed to make the time for Rear Window, considered one of the director’s all-time classics. Finding myself with some unexpected free time on a recent Sunday, I popped it up on Netflix. And, well…eh.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s a solid film. The acting is stellar, confining the action primarily to Jimmy Stewart’s apartment was clever (it’s essentially the movie equivalent of a bottle episode), and there are some moments of genuine suspense. Overall, however, I came away underwhelmed. Without giving too much away (although, to be fair, the film is 60 years old, so a spoiler alert is an act of charity), the tension in the plot runs as follows: one of the main characters either did A or did B. In the end, it turns out he did B. Not exactly white-knuckle stuff.

Now, to be fair to the film, I probably would have had a much different reaction had I seen it in a cinema in 1954. In 2015, however, when thrillers go to baroque lengths to hide the ball on plot twists, Rear Window seemed almost pedestrian by comparison. Had it been some obscure little film, I probably would have delighted in it. As a movie that’s so deeply engrained in pop culture, however, that my first consciousness of it came through a childhood viewing of Simpsons episode, it had a higher bar to clear.

And, honestly, that feels, at some level, like a disservice to the film. But there’s simply no way to decouple my reaction from the expectations created by decades worth of hype.

What “masterpieces” have you come to late, only to discover that your expectations were disappointed?

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  1. user_7742 Inactive
    user_7742
    @BrianWatt

    thelonious:John Wayne. He had his own distinct style and was probably the last of the real men but his acting left a lot to be desired.

    Well, I always thought his performances in The Quiet Man and The Searchers were pretty well done and very moving.

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  2. Ricochet Contributor
    Ricochet
    @TitusTechera

    Midget Faded Rattlesnake:You know how a lot of people object to porn on the grounds that it’s boring? You could make the same complaint about much love poetry, even when it’s written by the greats.

    Certainly. I do not really know who would care about love poetry except disappointed lovers who will not give up regardless. Well, maybe a few others, but not many.

    There is another thing, too–the sonnets are annoyingly witty, so to speak. I’m not sure anything else he wrote was wrote with such a small audience in mind.

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  3. Troy Senik, Ed. Member
    Troy Senik, Ed.
    @TroySenik

    Knotwise the Poet:I’ve only seen a few clips of the much lauded sitcom Arrested Development, so I can’t fairly judge it, but the bits I saw underwhelmed me.

    One of my favorite comedies of recent years, but I don’t think anyone could get their arms around it from clips. One of the reasons the show struggled to find an audience is that it is, to some extent, a serialized comedy, and a lot of the jokes only make sense if you’ve followed the show linearly. It’s worth watching the first few episodes (the show’s pacing is so frenetic that they fly by) to get a real sense of it. If you like it, limit yourself to the original run. The Netflix resurrection was more concerned with being high-concept than with actually being funny.

    Neil Young- I like the instrumental parts of his songs and then he starts singing. Ugh.

    Seconded. It works here and there (“Harvest Moon” is a beautiful song), but how he’s managed to have a decades-long career with those pipes is beyond me. I would have whiffed on that one as an A&R man.

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  4. Troy Senik, Ed. Member
    Troy Senik, Ed.
    @TroySenik

    Vance Richards:This isn’t a movie, but I think the whole giraffe thing has run its course and isn’t all that funny anymore.

    This passage inspired me to ask Max if we could program it so that editors can have unlimited likes on a comment.

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  5. Knotwise the Poet Member
    Knotwise the Poet
    @KnotwisethePoet

    Brian Watt:

    thelonious:John Wayne. He had his own distinct style and was probably the last of the real men but his acting left a lot to be desired.

    Well, I always thought his performances in The Quiet Man and The Searchers were pretty well done and very moving.

    I don’t consider him a great actor (I think most people agree that his range was limited), but I agree that he does great work in those two films.

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  6. thelonious Member
    thelonious
    @thelonious

    Brian Watt:

    thelonious:John Wayne. He had his own distinct style and was probably the last of the real men but his acting left a lot to be desired.

    Well, I always thought his performances in The Quiet Man and The Searchers were pretty well done and very moving.

    In fairness I haven’t seen those movies at least all the way through.  I  saw both versions of True Grit and thought Jeff Bridges was much better.  I also recently caught many of his performances on a cable channel which ran a John Wayne marathon and thought he had some laughably wooden moments.   Maybe I just caught his worst moments.  I’m sure Marlon Brando and Meryll Streep had a few stinkers.

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  7. Gödel's Ghost Inactive
    Gödel's Ghost
    @GreatGhostofGodel

    It’s a great theme: “just because you’re paranoid, it doesn’t mean no one’s out to get you.” There’s also the specific question of urban paranoia: in the big, bad city, you don’t really know your neighbors, do you? “Rear Window” is even explicit about this, with the poor woman screaming exactly this about her murdered dog. This was very new in 1954. So…

    No “Rear Window,” no “Rosemary’s Baby” or “Sliver.”

    No “Rear Window,” no “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” (1956), still the ultimate urban/Cold War paranoia film.

    No “Rear Window,” no “The Stepfather,” although the latter was also inspired by the John List murders, i.e. suburban paranoia that happens to be true.

    You get the idea.

    Get to the 1970s and Stephen King turns the idea on its head: what if a vampire invaded a rural town? Would anyone even notice? Boom, “Salem’s Lot.” The aforementioned Ira Levin went suburban second-wave feminism paranoid with “The Stepford Wives.” David “Trust Me; Small Towns Are Plenty Creepy” Lynch made his 80s-90s career on “Blue Velvet” and “Twin Peaks.”

    We don’t know people as well as we think we do. That can go any way you like: comedy, tragedy, suspense, horror. Hitchcock saw it as suspense. I seem to be able to find it still—maybe thanks to growing up in a very tight-knit neighborhood and feeling that urban alienation after leaving.

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  8. thelonious Member
    thelonious
    @thelonious

    Troy Senik, Ed.:

    Knotwise the Poet:

    Neil Young- I like the instrumental parts of his songs and then he starts singing. Ugh.

    Seconded. It works here and there (“Harvest Moon” is a beautiful song), but how he’s managed to have a decades-long career with those pipes is beyond me. I would have whiffed on that one as an A&R man.

    Thought he was a great addition to Crosby, Stills and Nash.  He gave their sound a certain kind of twang.  His voice works as a condiment like a spicy brown mustard but you don’t want it as a main course.

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  9. Sabrdance Member
    Sabrdance
    @Sabrdance

    Mike H:

    Frank Soto:

    Mike H:This came up during the Meetup: Firefly.

    Tread lightly, Mike.

    There’s a caveat in that I’ve only seen the first episode, because people oversold it.

    I’m sure it gets better.

    I’ve seen the whole series.  I taped the whole series when it aired, and I watched the DVD.  I saw the movie in theaters, and twice on DVD, and again on cable.

    Firefly.

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  10. Spin Inactive
    Spin
    @Spin

    American Graffiti.  I just couldn’t figure out what the big deal was…shut it off halfway through.

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  11. Sabrdance Member
    Sabrdance
    @Sabrdance

    Actual answers:

    I can never get into Jane Austen.  Many of my friends, men and women, tell me I would enjoy it, but I can’t get into it.  Based on the plots, she’s practically my soulmate, but I don’t care for the prose.  And Clueless is an undervalued treasure of an adaptation.

    2001: A Space Odyssey doesn’t light my fires.

    M could be done so much better today.

    And while Alexander Nevsky is awesome, Battleship Potemkin strikes me as hackneyed -but which movie does everyone homage?

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  12. Ryan M Inactive
    Ryan M
    @RyanM

    Misthiocracy:Apropos of Nothing: In 1954, Rear Window was the third-highest grossing US film.

    #1 was White Christmas

    #2 was 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea

    #4 was something called Demetrius and the Gladiators

    So, it was beaten by a schmaltzy Christmas movie and a rubber squid, and it barely beat a gladiator movie that’s barely a footnote in movie history.

    But, no, movie audiences back then were way more sophisticated than those of today.

    Schmaltzy?!  Them’s fightin’ words.  Best Christmas movie ever.  Ever!

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  13. user_138106 Member
    user_138106
    @LidensCheng

    Agatha Christie. Such a bad writer.

    Knotwise the Poet:

    Brian Watt:

    thelonious:John Wayne. He had his own distinct style and was probably the last of the real men but his acting left a lot to be desired.

    Well, I always thought his performances in The Quiet Man and The Searchers were pretty well done and very moving.

    I don’t consider him a great actor (I think most people agree that his range was limited), but I agree that he does great work in those two films.

    I thought he was superb in Red River.

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  14. Troy Senik, Ed. Member
    Troy Senik, Ed.
    @TroySenik

    Sabrdance:2001: A Space Odyssey doesn’t light my fires.

    Are you talking about the novel or the movie? If the latter, a life-threatening amount of drug use tends to be the key to enjoying it. Though, to be fair, you could probably say something similar about Interstellar (which I enjoyed more, but found, um, very ambitious).

    For what it’s worth, I find Kubrick overrated across the board. Apart from The Shining and the first half of Full Metal Jacket, most of his canon can be safely ignored. I don’t mind Strangelove, but it strikes me as a movie that is so dependent on its historical context that it doesn’t age all that well for newer audiences.

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  15. thelonious Member
    thelonious
    @thelonious

    Lidens Cheng:Agatha Christie. Such a bad writer.

    Knotwise the Poet:

    Brian Watt:

    thelonious:John Wayne. He had his own distinct style and was probably the last of the real men but his acting left a lot to be desired.

    Well, I always thought his performances in The Quiet Man and The Searchers were pretty well done and very moving.

    I don’t consider him a great actor (I think most people agree that his range was limited), but I agree that he does great work in those two films.

    I thought he was superb in Red River.

    Maybe I need to rethink my position on John Wayne.  Can I do that on the internet?  Agatha Christie was always a mystery to me.

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  16. user_129448 Inactive
    user_129448
    @StephenDawson

    Mike H:

    Frank Soto:

    Mike H:This came up during the Meetup: Firefly.

    Tread lightly, Mike.

    There’s a caveat in that I’ve only seen the first episode, because people oversold it.

    I’m sure it gets better.

    Mike, I had the DVD set, watched the first episode/pilot, and thought … meh, just a Western disguised as science fiction (like the original Star Wars was an adventure story disguised as science fiction). I sold the set.

    Years later after repeated endorsements from people I respect I purchased again (on Blu-ray) and re-watched in a more open frame of mind. Within a couple of episodes I concluded that this was amongst the best TV ever made, decent science fiction, amazing story lines, somewhat conservative and extremely libertarian in a Heinleinian kind of way. It maintains this quality to the premature end, and in the rarest of all treats, scores a fine movie — Serenity — to finish things off in the best way possible.

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  17. kylez Member
    kylez
    @kylez

    When I saw the title Vertigo appear before reading your post, I thought I was going to have to beat you up for not liking it. Instead I have to beat you up for Rear Window, a film I’ve seen and thoroughly enjoyed about 4 times. Actually, I do see where you’re coming from, and it certainly is more straightforward than the revelations in Vertigo. The premise of the movie does set up a bit of a problem for the writers in that if Raymond Burr hasn’t done ‘B’ than there isn’t much reason for the movie. (Though this is years after Hitch already gave us Suspicion). Anyway, that climactic scene with the camera is still pretty cool, and beyond the story one can really enjoy the set piece, the observations of all the other neighbors, the dialogue and humor, and the always great Thelma Ritter. Plus Grace Kelly.

    In my first semester at community college years ago I saw the film in a film history class of about a hundred people. I had already seen it, but it was fun to hear a bit of a gasp from many in the room when Kelly was in Burr’s apartment, and we see she needs to leave.

    I saw that Simpson’s episode first too, as well as the One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest spoof, and I’m sure others.

    For another cool Jimmy Stewart film with one set piece check out Flight of the Phoenix.  

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  18. kylez Member
    kylez
    @kylez

    Spin:American Graffiti. I just couldn’t figure out what the big deal was…shut it off halfway through.

    I finally saw that three years ago. I thought it was better in the second half.

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  19. Quinn the Eskimo Member
    Quinn the Eskimo
    @

    Spin:American Graffiti. I just couldn’t figure out what the big deal was…shut it off halfway through.

    Actually, I liked it, up until the final minute of the movie.  The nastiest sucker punch of any well regarded movie.  Foreshadows the Star Wars prequels with its vicious contempt for the audience.

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  20. Knotwise the Poet Member
    Knotwise the Poet
    @KnotwisethePoet

    Lidens Cheng:Agatha Christie. Such a bad writer.

    Knotwise the Poet:

    Brian Watt:

    thelonious:John Wayne. He had his own distinct style and was probably the last of the real men but his acting left a lot to be desired.

    Well, I always thought his performances in The Quiet Man and The Searchers were pretty well done and very moving.

    I don’t consider him a great actor (I think most people agree that his range was limited), but I agree that he does great work in those two films.

    I thought he was superb in Red River.

    I still need to see it.  I’ve read the story that John Ford saw the film and said “I didn’t know that son of a **** could act.”

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  21. Jason Rudert Inactive
    Jason Rudert
    @JasonRudert

    Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
    It’s five hours of drunk people yelling at each other. And Richard Burton’s pores.
    Whoever sanded the teeth marks out of the props at the end of each day’s shooting deserved an Oscar.

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  22. user_129448 Inactive
    user_129448
    @StephenDawson

    Troy Senik, Ed.:

    For what it’s worth, I find Kubrick overrated across the board. Apart from The Shining and the first half of Full Metal Jacket, most of his canon can be safely ignored. I don’t mind Strangelove, but it strikes me as a movie that is so dependent on its historical context that it doesn’t age all that well for newer audiences.

    Um … A Clockwork Orange?

    Also, it’s worth going back to near the start of his career and checking out The Killing. Pretty impressive noir, and quite gripping.

    2001 has a special place in my heart for being the first movie that I, I science fiction nerd, saw which took seriously such things as microgravity, no sound in space, rotating spaceships to generate pseudo-gravity. For an extremely slow movie, the HAL stuff at the end managed to be incredibly tense. And then, well, that stuff happened. Oh well.

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  23. MikeHs Inactive
    MikeHs
    @MikeHs

    Troy Senik, Ed.:

    It can’t really be that a truly great work of art is inaccessible to someone simply because of age, can it? (Excepting children, of course)

    No, you’re right, Troy.  There are lots of folks younger than I who appreciate older classics, and, obviously, you’re in there.  I guess, I get depressed when I read comments by (random) people about how “boring” some movie is, where I’m thinking that the buildup and character development is totally appropriate and make for a fuller experience.

    Maybe, RW isn’t really a “masterpiece” (and obviously the build-up can inflate expectations), but I really got a renewed appreciation for the movie when I saw it on the big screen again a couple of weeks ago.  The whole apartment set they built for Hitchcock, and then the ambient sound of Stewart’s environment were really key parts of the movie. I also really appreciate how Hitchcock built the story up gradually.

    Funny, but I had a similar experience as you, but in my case, it was for “Vertigo.”  I mean it looks great, but the last time I saw it (on TV), I couldn’t help but think “wait a second this is totally nuts and doesn’t make any sense.” (Still there is a lot to love about that movie; got a great kick last year visiting the old Mission at San Juan Bautista and seeing where they filmed those key scenes).

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  24. Sheila S. Inactive
    Sheila S.
    @SheilaS

    Knotwise the Poet:

    I’ve only seen a few clips of the much lauded sitcom Arrested Development, so I can’t fairly judge it, but the bits I saw underwhelmed me.

    A Farewell to Arms- I’ll let Bradley Cooper explain my feelings (warning- does contain a few F-words)

    ***********************

    I actually was surprised that I enjoyed Arrested Development when I started watching it on Netflix. I can’t think of any other home-movie-style of filming and storytelling show I enjoy. As a genre I don’t like them. It gets better the longer you watch it.

    And I really enjoyed that video! I hated A Farewell to Arms. I didn’t find the main character likable at all, and was disgusted by the ending.

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  25. MikeHs Inactive
    MikeHs
    @MikeHs

    thelonious:Maybe I need to rethink my position on John Wayne. Can I do that on the internet? Agatha Christie was always a mystery to me.

    He’s really good in “In Harm’s Way” which is a Big Mess of a movie, but with a lot of enjoyable stuff in it (a true guilty pleasure!).

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  26. Quinn the Eskimo Member
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    Stephen Dawson:

    Troy Senik, Ed.:

    For what it’s worth, I find Kubrick overrated across the board. Apart from The Shining and the first half of Full Metal Jacket, most of his canon can be safely ignored. I don’t mind Strangelove, but it strikes me as a movie that is so dependent on its historical context that it doesn’t age all that well for newer audiences.

    Um … A Clockwork Orange?

    Also, it’s worth going back to near the start of his career and checking out The Killing. Pretty impressive noir, and quite gripping.

    2001 has a special place in my heart for being the first movie that I, I science fiction nerd, saw which took seriously such things as microgravity, no sound in space, rotating spaceships to generate pseudo-gravity. For an extremely slow movie, the HAL stuff at the end managed to be incredibly tense. And then, well, that stuff happened. Oh well.

    I’ll second the recommendation for The Killing.

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  27. Ricochet Member
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    @

    Totally agree on Citizen Kane.  I cannot take seriously the idea that there are actual human beings who think it’s the best movie ever made.  Borderline unwatchable.

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  28. Ricochet Member
    Ricochet
    @

    Frank Soto:

    Aaron Miller:Holden Caufield might be a fair representation of teenage angst and arrogance, but why anyone would enjoy The Catcher In The Rye is beyond me.

    Catcher in the Rye is objectively horrible. I will duel any man who claims otherwise.

    I think I can explain it.

    Most people read Catcher in the Rye between the ages of 12 and 16.  This is an age at which many people have the deadly combination of an exaggerated sense of their importance, uniqueness, and brilliance.  If you’re looking for a book to endorse all of those self-deceptions, this is the one.

    I read it as a high school freshman.  Thought it was awesome.  Then I became an adult and was embarassed that I once thought it was uniquely great.  Very much like Atlas Shrugged, now that I think of it <ducking>.

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  29. Quinn the Eskimo Member
    Quinn the Eskimo
    @

    Troy Senik, Ed.:Dylan’s real accomplishment was how dramatically he changed popular songwriting. Why that’s never been differentiated from Dylan the recording artist has always been a bit of a puzzle to me, as I, like you, TGA, find him hard to listen to with only a few exceptions.

    I always thought the case for Dylan as a performer was made, ironically enough, by Simon and Garfunkel’s first album, Wednesday Morning, 3 AM.  They do a cover of “The Times They are A-Changin'” and “Peggy-O” (which Dylan had covered on his first album).  Simon and Garfunkel have lovely voices, but that’s not always enough to sell a song.  They hit all of the notes and miss all of the feeling.  Dylan is definitely more direct.

    As I have said about the difference between Hank Williams, Sr. performing “I Saw the Light” and the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band performing the song, one sounds like a group of people singing a song and one sounds like someone who saw the light.

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  30. Howellis Inactive
    Howellis
    @ManWiththeAxe

    I hated the film, “Tom Jones,” which I found to be terrible, unwatchable, unfunny, poorly made, badly acted. But somehow it won Best Picture.

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