Is She Telling the Truth?

 

Take a look at this video (it lasts a mere 27 seconds):

http://youtu.be/LalLc5CIkCA

We’ll have plenty of time to debate all kinds of aspects of the record and person of Hillary Clinton between now and election day of 2016, of course, but for now consider three brief, simple questions:

Do you believe her?

Will the press?

Will the public?

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  1. Scott Reusser Member
    Scott Reusser
    @ScottR

    #1 No.
    #2 No, but they don’t care.
    #3 No, but between, oh, 48% and 52% don”t care. (and on that unknowable 4% so much depends)

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  2. user_1100855 Member
    user_1100855
    @PaddySiochain

    What is truth? Pilate – Gospel of John.

    “The most profound statement of the New Testament” – Friedrich Nietzsche.

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  3. kylez Member
    kylez
    @kylez

    1. no

    2. no, but that won’t stop them from pretending they do, rationalizing, or changing the subject

    3. maybe, but it doesn’t matter. those most likely to not believe her already don’t support her. those who will likely support her see #2.

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  4. kylez Member
    kylez
    @kylez

    kylez:1. no

    2. no, but that won’t stop them from pretending they do, rationalizing, or changing the subject

    3. maybe, but it doesn’t matter. those most likely to not believe her already don’t support her. those who will likely support her see #2.

    Basically what Scott said as I was typing this up.

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  5. Basil Fawlty Member
    Basil Fawlty
    @BasilFawlty

    No one who has ever accessed multiple email accounts from a single device will believe her. But that doesn’t mean they will say that they don’t believe her.

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  6. Valiuth Inactive
    Valiuth
    @Valiuth

    Peter, I have only one thing to say. What difference does it make?

    God, is that not just the perfect line? If it were in Latin it would go on the Clinton coat of arms. Seriously though the tact we should take against her is not to ask if we trust her but to offer up our acceptance that for a person of her advanced age it is amazing that she could even handle one email account. We understand that when you are as old and frail as dirt its hard to keep track of too many things.

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  7. DocJay Inactive
    DocJay
    @DocJay

    1) It’s obvious she’s lying from the content as well as her history of being a congenital liar.  But it’s notable to see her smiling/smirking a touch while she glances right and left repeatedly but avoids any real eye contact.

    2) The press don’t believe her either.  Obama might have to kill a baby on camera and eat it  for the progs to fry one of their own but Clinton is another animal.  If she is their best chance, the prog media will spin anything for her but they hope a less tainted person will come along that allows them to lie less and blast whoever the GOP fool is on the hate topic du jour.

    3) That’s sexist.  The public will only believe it after the mainstream media turns on her.

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  8. user_423975 Coolidge
    user_423975
    @BrandonShafer

    I just found out today that the 55,000 pages of emails she sent over was because they PRINTED 55,000 pages and sent them over to State in boxes.  After learning that, I don’t see how anyone could believe anything about this.  Short of video of her specifically deleting emails that are indisputably incriminating, there is nothing that will convince some of her most ardent supporters.  I see either the democrats try to torpedo her with this, or it gets swept out as “old” news.

    1) No.

    2) No.

    3) Not paying attention.

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  9. user_423975 Coolidge
    user_423975
    @BrandonShafer

    Valiuth:Peter, I have only one thing to say. What difference does it make?

    God, is that not just the perfect line? If it were in Latin it would go on the Clinton coat of arms. Seriously though the tact we should take against her is not to ask if we trust her but to offer up our acceptance that for a person of her advanced age it is amazing that she could even handle one email account. We understand that when you are as old and frail as dirt its hard to keep track of too many things.

    Oh, I heartily second this!

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  10. Leigh Inactive
    Leigh
    @Leigh

    My routine, tonight:

    1) Check personal email (on my electronic device)

    2) Check work email (on same electronic device)

    3) Check news, and listen to Hillary Clinton explain how she’d have to carry two devices if she had a work email.  (Head hits keyboard on electronic device I just used to check two emails)

    This is to say: no, no, and no.

    Does it matter?  If the actual behavior doesn’t, the political incompetence does.  It’s never good to make your political allies this uneasy this early in the primary process.  Nor is it good to introduce yourself to everyone too young to remember the ’90s (some of them do vote) by talking nonsense about something they completely understand.

    It doesn’t mean she won’t be president.  It probably did make it harder.

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  11. Vance Richards Member
    Vance Richards
    @VanceRichards

    Is she lying?

    Are her lips moving?

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  12. WI Con Member
    WI Con
    @WICon

    DocJay

    1) It’s obvious she’s lying from the content as well as her history of being a congenital liar.  But it’s notable to see her smiling/smirking a touch while she glances right and left repeatedly but avoids any real eye contact.

    Bing! She has notes in front of her and is looking side to side as if she reading from Barry’s teleprompter.

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  13. Jimmy Carter Member
    Jimmy Carter
    @JimmyCarter

    “I did not have… electronic communications… with another device… John Q Public.”

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  14. Percival Thatcher
    Percival
    @Percival

    1) No.
    2) They will worry it for a while, until distracted by a clumsy and less than dismissive response to a nitwit question asked of a Republican candidate.
    3) Competent, aggressive party leadership would make this a big issue. Pity we don’t have that.

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  15. Richard O'Shea Coolidge
    Richard O'Shea
    @RichardOShea

    1) No

    2) No,I’m not sure why, but the press isn’t buying it this time.  My guess is that it is just too weird, and the explanation is lame.

    3)Anyone with a smartphone knows that two or more email accounts can be accessed on a single device.  I keep one for business and one for personal use, I bet most of us  here on Ricochet do the same.

    Having a personal email account is one thing, but no one believes it is “easier” to set up your own server, in your own residence, with your own domain name, with your own unnamed IT guy behind the scenes.  I sure wouldn’t know how to do it, nor could I afford to do it.

    Deep down, even her supporters don’t believe this, because it is simply not believable.

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  16. The King Prawn Inactive
    The King Prawn
    @TheKingPrawn

    It’s certainly a lie but maybe not the one you think it is. Surely after all of her “public service” she knows that any personal electronic device which is connected to a government IT system or network becomes property of the government should the government decided to collect it. Connecting a government IT asset to your personal email opens your email to access by the government. Everything she did in this was done deliberately to keep her electronic files out of the hands of the people’s representatives.

    No one believes her. The more important question is who cares? I certainly do, but this is just more data on why she is unfit to serve in any position of public trust. The press can’t care because they are the mouthpiece of her party. The public may come to care, but this was released early enough to be forgotten about.

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  17. user_989419 Inactive
    user_989419
    @ProbableCause

    It’s weird the way she looks from side to side.  I know when speaking in public, it’s good to look up from one’s notes and look at different sections of the audience.  But she looks like a constipated robot.  In her defense, maybe it’s all the camera flashes.

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  18. Leigh Inactive
    Leigh
    @Leigh

    Richard O’Shea

    2) No,I’m not sure why, but the press isn’t buying it this time.  My guess is that it is just too weird, and the explanation is lame.

    Perhaps also because this involves keeping secrets from them.  In part, because it’s still primary season and there’s time for someone else.

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  19. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Peter Robinson:Do you believe her?

    Excuse me while I check my e-mail. Will you look at that? Five different e-mail accounts associated with four different Websites all checked with one device! I am sure that someone at State could have set up her device to collect both at the same time on the same device, if she is not capable of doing it herself.

    Will the press?

    That’s the wrong question, since a large portion of the press consists of dedicated liars. The question is, “Will they act like they believe her?” And that will depend whose camp they are in for the primaries. If they really think they can win with her, they might accept and move on. But, if they have another candidate, like Gov. O’Malley, they will pursue this.

    Will the public?

    You will have to segment your question more finely than that. Some might. Most aren’t paying attention. Most who are paying attention don’t believe it.

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  20. user_2967 Inactive
    user_2967
    @MatthewGilley

    You know what really terrifies me? The possibility that she may have saved some … ummm, personal photos on iCloud.

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  21. DrewInWisconsin Member
    DrewInWisconsin
    @DrewInWisconsin

    The non-verbals and facial expressions say it all. The eye-rolling, the sideways glances, the eyebrows sliding all over the place. The tone in her voice carries the same message.

    This woman is offended that anyone would dare question her.

    But more than that, she’s using this cloak of offense to cover over her guilt. And she knows she’s guilty. The subtext to all this is “Yes, I’m guilty. And furthermore, I’m untouchable, and I know it, and you can’t do a damn thing about it.”

    You see the same attitude on display when John Koskinen gets hauled before Congress.

    I loathe these people. I don’t know if it’s possible to describe how deep my loathing is for these people.

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  22. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Matthew Gilley:You know what really terrifies me? The possibility that she may have saved some … ummm, personal photos on iCloud.

    Oh, Good G-d! You should not have gone there. I only hope EJ doesn’t see this. We’ll have Hillary in dominatrix gear all over the thread.

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  23. user_1008534 Member
    user_1008534
    @Ekosj

    18 U.S. Code § 2071 – Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
    (a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

    (b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.

     

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  24. Palaeologus Inactive
    Palaeologus
    @Palaeologus

    Peter, it’s not so much that I don’t believe her. Rather, I can’t believe her.

    The woman could literally suggest that she landed in the Balkans under sniper fire in the mid 90’s, and I just don’t think I’d buy it.

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  25. user_1065645 Contributor
    user_1065645
    @DaveSussman

    10 years ago I used a Palm Treo. THAT had multiple email accounts.

    If Condoleeza Rice or Dick Cheney ran their official government emails through their houses in Virginia, what would the Hillary enabling press do?

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  26. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Valiuth:Peter, I have only one thing to say. What difference does it make?

    God, is that not just the perfect line? If it were in Latin it would go on the Clinton coat of arms.

    Now this is a job for EJHill. I’m imagining a coat of arms with a stained blue dress, or maybe that is just one quarter? With the motto: “Quid interest, – hic, quid interest?”

    (Or at least that is what Google Translator tells me.)

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  27. Peter Robinson Contributor
    Peter Robinson
    @PeterRobinson

    Valiuth:Peter, I have only one thing to say. What difference does it make?

    God, is that not just the perfect line? If it were in Latin it would go on the Clinton coat of arms.

    Beautiful, Valiuth.  Just beautiful.

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  28. Peter Robinson Contributor
    Peter Robinson
    @PeterRobinson

    Arahant:

    Valiuth:Peter, I have only one thing to say. What difference does it make?

    God, is that not just the perfect line? If it were in Latin it would go on the Clinton coat of arms.

    Now this is a job for EJHill. I’m imagining a coat of arms with a stained blue dress, or maybe that is just one quarter? With the motto: “Quid interest, – hic, quid interest?”

    (Or at least that is what Google Translator tells me.)

    EJ!  Of course!  What that man will be able to do with this!

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  29. Peter Robinson Contributor
    Peter Robinson
    @PeterRobinson

    Palaeologus:Peter, it’s not so much that I don’t believe her. Rather, I can’t believe her.

    The woman could literally suggest that she landed in the Balkans under sniper fire in the mid 90′s, and I just don’t think I’d buy it.

    Ouch.

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  30. Peter Robinson Contributor
    Peter Robinson
    @PeterRobinson

    Ekosj:18 U.S. Code § 2071 – Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

    Next question:  Who has standing to bring suit?  Because, of course, the State Department never will.

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